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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:21 pm

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S2M wrote:Ok....so If I stated that OJ is a murderous leche. Is that slanderous, dafametory, or otherwise libelous?


He was convicted in civil court of being that...so I would say you are ok on all counts.


Actually, Civil court is the red-headed stepchild. Not convicted in criminal court, so he really didn't do it in the eyes of the law. Burden of proof is basically non-existent in Civil trials. Which is a crock anyway. Why should someone lose their life in Civil Court when they were found not guilty in a Criminal trial. If they didn't do it.....they didn't do it.


Yeah I never understood that either...sort of spoils the whole "double jeopardy" thing doesn't it?
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:22 pm

S2M wrote:Ok....so If I stated that OJ is a murderous leche. Is that slanderous, dafametory, or otherwise libelous?


Being a public figure, OJ would have to prove malice in your statement. Now, if you said that about your neighbor on line and they had never been convicted of murder, you could be in trouble. It depends if the court views it as internet hyperbole or if they feel you actually said it with the intention of having third parties believing your accusation was factually true.
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Postby mikemarrs » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:00 pm

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mikemarrs wrote:FWIW Mike Munchak new coach of the Tennessee Titans.he was a hall of fame player and has coached offense under Jeff Fisher for a decade and a half.it has been said in that time he was very intense and dedicated and his car was always the last to leave the parking lot during the season.lets hope this dedication helps this team get better in the future.good luck to our new coach.


I heard on the radio this morning that Jeff Fisher was interviewed by the Rooney's in Dallas last night behind closed doors. Maybe LeBeau will finally hang them up and we anoint Fisher as D-coordinator. All speculation at this point but if Fisher's name is dropped, you think about defense.



i could see him somewhere like pittsburgh where they play the type of defense that he is known for.places like pittsburgh and chicago come to mind.he said he was very burnt out so i could see him doing that or broadcast job.he may even wait a year and resurface as head coach some place.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:18 pm

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mikemarrs wrote:FWIW Mike Munchak new coach of the Tennessee Titans.he was a hall of fame player and has coached offense under Jeff Fisher for a decade and a half.it has been said in that time he was very intense and dedicated and his car was always the last to leave the parking lot during the season.lets hope this dedication helps this team get better in the future.good luck to our new coach.


I heard on the radio this morning that Jeff Fisher was interviewed by the Rooney's in Dallas last night behind closed doors. Maybe LeBeau will finally hang them up and we anoint Fisher as D-coordinator. All speculation at this point but if Fisher's name is dropped, you think about defense.



i could see him somewhere like pittsburgh where they play the type of defense that he is known for.places like pittsburgh and chicago come to mind.he said he was very burnt out so i could see him doing that or broadcast job.he may even wait a year and resurface as head coach some place.


When it comes down to tendancies, and every coach has one, Fisher has the same tendancy in what the Rooney's look for. Now that Butler got permission to go and talk to Whiz (because he's obbsessed with our players and coach's) I can see the addition of Fisher being absolutley huge in what the Steelers could need for a change-up. I mean you are seeing more and more of ex-head coach's going and making a mark as coordinators nowadays.

My early gut right now tells me that in 2011 (praying that there is a season) is that the NFC will come down to Green Bay, N.Y Giants, Philly or even Dallas. The AFC will be familiar with the same teams which should be New England, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Baltimore and San Diego. I'm not sold on the Jets whatsoever but they'll be in the mix. I think sleepers could very well be teams like Oakland or Tampa.
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Postby mikemarrs » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:23 pm

i'm like you and pray we don't have no strike for 2011 in the NFL.it would be devastating because february through august already sucks every year having to wait until the season starts again.hell i'm one of those people who gets excited about the draft,annual schedule release,preseason,etc. lets hope these two sides work out their differences so that we the fans don't suffer from this.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:42 pm

Just saw next years odds.

Super Bowl XLVI chances:

Green Bay 7-1
New England 8-1
Pittsburgh 10-1
San Diego 12-1
Baltimore 14-1
Indianapolis 14-1
New Orleans 14-1
Falcons 16-1
Dallas 16-1
N.Y Jets 16-1
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:17 am

The Philadelphia Eagles placed their franchise tag on quarterback Michael Vick on Tuesday, the team announced.


Vick made $5.25 million in 2010 but would make an estimated $20 million -- the average salary of the five highest-paid quarterbacks in the league -- as the Eagles' franchise player.
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:19 am

Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson mocked quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Drew Brees during a Feb. 5 negotiating session with the NFL Players Association, says three league sources, a sign of disrespect that the union hopes solidifies its members in the pending labor battle with the NFL.

“[Richardson] was extremely condescending to them, especially toward Peyton,” a source said. “[Richardson] was the only person on either side who was contentious. Everybody else was respectful. They might have said, ‘I disagree with your point,’ but at least they were respectful. [Richardson] was not.”

Apparently, Richardson was particularly sarcastic when Manning started to talk about players’ safety. At one point, Richardson evidently said, “What do you know about player safety?”

Richardson was unavailable for comment. A league source denied that there was any contentious discussion between the team owner and anyone from the union’s side.

“Mr. Richardson is a former player and made clear his respect and affection for the players during the meeting,” the source said.

While negotiations between the NFL and the NFLPA have historically been marked by contentious moments, Richardson’s outburst may be especially telling for the players.

“If he’s willing to talk to [Manning] and [Brees] that way, what do you think it says about what he and the other owners think about the rest of the players?” the source said, rhetorically. “Now, it really only matters if [Richardson] is representing the opinion of 23 or even eight other owners, but it has to make you wonder.”

Richardson, who is the only former NFL player to own a team, has been considered one of the staunchest proponents of hard-line tactics in the current negotiations. Last March, Richardson addressed the rest of the NFL owners at the league’s annual spring meeting with a fiery speech. Richardson said the owners had to “take back our league” during the negotiations with players.

“We signed a [expletive] deal last time and we’re going to stick together and take back our league and [expletive] do something about it,” Richardson said, as reported by Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports.

That has been interpreted as a clear indication that Richardson and some other owners want to break the NFLPA and get players to give greater concessions. The owners are currently holding firm on a request to have an additional $1 billion in expenses be removed from the pool of shared revenue.

Currently, the NFL grosses approximately $9 billion annually. Of that, $1 billion is given to the owners off the top for expenses. After that, the remaining $8 billion is split with 60 percent ($4.8 billion) going to the players and 40 percent (another $3.2 billion for a total of $4.2 billion) going to owners.

Under the owners’ proposal, the first $2 billion would go to them. The owners have tried to sell that idea by saying the money would go toward reinvestment in the game to help grow the overall amount of money that is shared.

The players are currently unwilling to accept the owners’ proposal and are facing the likelihood of having the owners lock out the players after the March 3 deadline. In response, the union would likely decertify, leaving it vulnerable.

In that regard, Richardson’s comments to Manning could backfire on the owners. In 1987, for instance, the NFL was able to split the union in large part by creating what was known as the Quarterback Club, a marketing arm that led several top quarterbacks to stop supporting the union. In the case of Manning, who is not a player representative or member of the NFLPA’s executive board, his opinion carries great weight throughout the NFL. Last August, Manning said he would be completely supportive of the union’s cause at the proper time, but has largely stayed in the background.

Having him fully behind the union could be important to maintaining unity.
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Postby lights1961 » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:41 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Just saw next years odds.

Super Bowl XLVI chances:

Green Bay 7-1
New England 8-1
Pittsburgh 10-1
San Diego 12-1
Baltimore 14-1
Indianapolis 14-1
New Orleans 14-1
Falcons 16-1
Dallas 16-1
N.Y Jets 16-1


where do the odds come that there will be a 2011 season or not???

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Postby Don » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:46 am

Richard Seymour has agreed to a two-year extension with the Raiders that will make him the highest paid defensive player in football


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980


Isn't this guy on the downside of his career, WTF?
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:03 pm

Don wrote:Richard Seymour has agreed to a two-year extension with the Raiders that will make him the highest paid defensive player in football


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980


Isn't this guy on the downside of his career, WTF?


I always thought Seymour was VASTLY overrated in New England where many of the locals were MUCH bigger fans of the guy than I ever was. Him being the highest paid defensive player in football is ridiculous!
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:22 pm

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Don wrote:Richard Seymour has agreed to a two-year extension with the Raiders that will make him the highest paid defensive player in football


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980


Isn't this guy on the downside of his career, WTF?


I always thought Seymour was VASTLY overrated in New England where many of the locals were MUCH bigger fans of the guy than I ever was. Him being the highest paid defensive player in football is ridiculous!

In my book he already earned this money by punching Raplisburger in the grill. :D Too bad dude still had his lid on.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 am

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Enigma869 wrote:
Don wrote:Richard Seymour has agreed to a two-year extension with the Raiders that will make him the highest paid defensive player in football


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980


Isn't this guy on the downside of his career, WTF?


I always thought Seymour was VASTLY overrated in New England where many of the locals were MUCH bigger fans of the guy than I ever was. Him being the highest paid defensive player in football is ridiculous!

In my book he already earned this money by punching Raplisburger in the grill. :D Too bad dude still had his lid on.


Haha, earned his money. Isn't earning his money (Seymour=overrated/over paid) earned by helping his (helpless) team with football games? 35-3 was the score when the Steelers beat Oakland with Seymour with his ass on the early flight. Yep, money well earned. :roll:
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:28 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Haha, earned his money. Isn't earning his money (Seymour=overrated/over paid) earned by helping his (helpless) team with football games? 35-3 was the score when the Steelers beat Oakland with Seymour with his ass on the early flight. Yep, money well earned. :roll:

It was a joke dipshit. Guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks for that sting to abate. :roll:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:39 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:Haha, earned his money. Isn't earning his money (Seymour=overrated/over paid) earned by helping his (helpless) team with football games? 35-3 was the score when the Steelers beat Oakland with Seymour with his ass on the early flight. Yep, money well earned. :roll:

It was a joke dipshit. Guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks for that sting to abate. :roll:


What sting? I'm already looking forward to April's draft, brother! :lol:
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Postby Everett » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:54 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Haha, earned his money. Isn't earning his money (Seymour=overrated/over paid) earned by helping his (helpless) team with football games? 35-3 was the score when the Steelers beat Oakland with Seymour with his ass on the early flight. Yep, money well earned. :roll:

It was a joke dipshit. Guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks for that sting to abate. :roll:


What sting? I'm already looking forward to April's draft, brother! :lol:


I don't think he's talking about next monday trav :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Frontiers65 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:53 am

I know my Rams have stunk for the last 7 years, but Bradford sure made a difference this year. I hope they can find some talent on the recieving end. I am tired of the weak NFC West. They are the joke of the football league and it makes us sick out here in the west. Hope things turn around soon, but I doubt it.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:05 am

Since I know we had a good discussion on the top stadiums in the NFL earlier this year, this article was posted on Yahoo. A good read.

Ranking the NFL stadiums:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=n ... l_stadiums

Here's the top 5 and the rest follow:

THE RANKINGS

1. Lambeau Field (Green Bay Packers)

Seating Capacity: 72,928
Playing Surface: Grass
Opened: 1957

Lambeau Field

Billed as “the crown jewel of the National Football League,” Lambeau Field underwent a $295 million facelift in 2003 to give the venue a 21st century look while maintaining a retro feel. Lambeau certainly isn’t the most architecturally impressive venue, but it does boast some of the league’s best fans and has more historical significance than any other stadium in the NFL.

Think of it like this: If you’ve never been to an NFL game and knew you were going to die tomorrow, would you rather go to the old stomping grounds of Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr, or the two-year old Cowboys Stadium?

2. Cowboys Stadium (Dallas Cowboys)

Seating Capacity: 80,000 (allegedly expandable to 110,000, but we saw how well that worked out at the Super Bowl)
Playing Surface: Artificial Turf
Opened: 2009

As far as architecture and technology are concerned, Cowboys Stadium is the best in the business. You can’t help but find yourself in awe at the sheer size of the building as you approach from Route 30. In addition, the $30 million video screen that hangs 90 feet above the field has become the gold standard for JumboTrons in today’s NFL.

However, having opened in 2009, the place lacks historical significance and has the ability to keep the roof closed if the weather turns ugly. That’s why it failed to top Lambeau for the top spot in the rankings.

3. Qwest Field (Seattle Seahawks)

Seating Capacity: 67,000
Playing Surface: FieldTurf
Opened: 2002

Not only is Qwest Field a sweet piece of eye candy that makes up part of the Seattle skyline, but this place is as loud as they come. I challenge you to name one outdoor venue that can generate more noise on Sundays than Paul Allen’s baby.

Qwest is located in downtown Seattle right next to the Puget Sound and per the Seahawks’ website is set “against the backdrop of snow-covered mountains.” In addition, Seattle is 5-1 at home during the playoffs since opening the joint in 2002.

Bonus: Qwest is located just 41 miles north of Chambers Bay, the best golf course you’ve never heard of.

4. Heinz Field (Pittsburgh Steelers)

Seating Capacity: 65,050
Playing Surface: Grass
Opened: 2001

Heinz has only been open for ten years, so the history doesn’t run too deep. But the Steelers have won two Super Bowl bowls since making the move from Three Rivers Stadium, something 21 NFL teams can’t say they’ve achieved in their entire history.

Pittsburgh is one of the great football cities in America. If you’re looking for a good time, book a hotel in the downtown area on Saturday and valet the car, because you can get everywhere you need to go by walking or taking a cab. The parking at the stadium is limited, but you can hit McFadden’s before the game to get tuned up prior to kickoff.

If you disagree with Heinz Field being rated this high, you’ve never been there in a crucial third-down situation with the 65,000+ faithful in attendance all waving their Terrible Towels trying to help their defense get a stop. It’s an awesome sight.

When in Pittsburgh, be sure to visit Primanti Bros.

5. Lincoln Financial Field (Philadelphia Eagles)

Seating Capacity: 69,144
Playing Surface: Grass
Opened: 2003

This place doesn’t feature the same hostility or 700 level chaos that could be found at Veterans Stadium back in the days of Buddy Ryan and Randall Cunningham, but trust me, that doesn’t mean Lincoln Financial Field is a friendly environment for visiting teams.

I’ve sat in the last row at the Linc and can tell you first-hand that this place doesn’t have a bad seat in the house. In addition, fans are treated (I use that term loosely) to scenic views of the Philly skyline out of the west end zone.

The true beauty of Lincoln Financial Field comes before kickoff, as this venue is part of a Philadelphia sports complex that is also home to Citizens Bank Park (Phillies) and the Wells Fargo Center (Flyers, Sixers). With all of the parking available, fans have the luxury of tailgating with their 69,000 closest friends prior to game time.

Bonus: Matt Bowen was heckled by an old lady at the Linc while on crutches when he played there with the Rams back in his glory days.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:13 am

Well, the Eagles are the only professional sports franchise with their own magistrate and jail cells IN THE STADIUM. That tells you EVERYTHING you need to do about those mega-asshole uneducated Philly thugs.
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