They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

BYE!

"Advocates who want California to secede from the rest of the United States were given the green light Monday to begin collecting signatures for their initiative.

So let me get this straight. There are those that want to secede from the union because they don't like the positions and actions of one POTUS? Do they understand term limits? That the POTUS they don't like can only serve two consecutive terms in office? Something tells me those that are for this are in for a rude awakening. Once you get beyond the progressive\liberal sections of the state, people are unlikely to agree with this. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there another group looking to split the state into two? So that they can separate themselves from the progressives.

[Boomchild]

I doubt they are "scared", they'll just go back to building a bomb. I would say European countries like France are more scared of it than Iran is.

It's naive to think that Iran had\has any intention of living up to the agreement. What proof is there that they have? What inspections have been performed since the agreement was made?

Good exageration there. It's more like France attempting to get Trump to accept the deal.

It's obvious from this statement you didn't understand what the PM of France said at the press conference yesterday. He said it's obvious the existing agreement needs to be scraped and a new one implemented.

[ohsherrie]

Hammond Man Who Advertised Minors for Sex on Backpage.com Sentenced to Life in Prison

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndin/pr/ha ... ife-prison

Great news!

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
I doubt[ they are "scared", they'll just go back to building a bomb. I would say European countries like France are more scared of it than Iran is.

It's naive to think that Iran had\has any intention of living up to the agreement. What proof is there that they have? What inspections have been performed since the agreement was made?

You either: Believe Donald Dumbass Trump when he said they are self-inspecting (a lie). Or, you know they have been inspecting twice as often via UN inspectors who say Iran is complying with the agreement...and you just want to bait me into some lame argument about the UN doing the inspections, and/or the fact they do not see a need to inspect the military

But, whatever. The fact is they were months away from having a bomb. Does Iran have a bomb since the deal has been in place for over a year? Didn't think so.

Even if you don't like the deal, the FACT is that Iran is complying and it is working as intended.

It's obvious from this statement you didn't understand what the PM of France said at the press conference yesterday. He said it's obvious the existing agreement needs to be scraped and a new one implemented.

Nope, did not know that at that time. That is NOT what Macron was saying just a day prior. What this tells me is that Trump has already made up his mind to end the deal and Macron could not change it. A really stupid idea.

[verslibre]

North Korea on it's knees

A lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Kim and his ilk. I doubt he's about to shed everything he "believes" in and accepts the "ways of the West." The guy's not on the level to start with.

[Monker]

Step by step, inch by inch.More coming out of what people with normal intelligence could figure out.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-roo ... nnections/

People with normal intelligence realize that Judicial Watch is just another far right leaning group who has been saying these type of things for at least 10yrs with nothing significant coming out of it - so they ignore there meaningless bullshit.

[The_Noble_Cause]

People with normal intelligence realize that Judicial Watch is just another far right leaning group who has been saying these type of things for at least 10yrs with nothing significant coming out of it - so they ignore there meaningless bullshit.

If Judicial Watch has a claim to fame at all, it is for filing FOIA lawsuits and getting documents that make Democrats look bad.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Economy back.

The economy was already 'back'. The trends that you citing, such as unemployment, have been going on for EIGHT YEARS. The difference is before the numbers were lies, and now they are real.

United States leading in energy exports putting a major hurt on Russia and OPEC

So what? That is short term thinking. The middle east has something like 10x the amount of oil to pump out of the ground...and they don't have to frak to do it. This is a myopic, losing, battle that shouldn't even be fought. If you want to impress me, tell me how tough Trump is on MPG on new cars.

ISIS almost gone.

ISIS was already losing ground when Trump took over and many of the operations were already planned that Trump's generals executed.

Middle Eastern Countries working with Israel

Has nothing to do with Trump.

North Korea on it's knees

Yes, because the Kim family is super trustworthy and you can believe everything they say. Naive idiot.

Iran scared Trump will ditch the deal

I doubt they are "scared", they'll just go back to building a bomb. I would say European countries like France are more scared of it than Iran is.

Trump working with France to either get a good deal with Iran or tank it

Good exageration there. It's more like France attempting to get Trump to accept the deal.

Trumps first year and he already made Obama look like the worthless asshole he was and the libs can't stand it.

No. Not even close.

What I see is an economy that has its base being built under Obama, and that base being eroded by Trump. The first indicator is the stagnated stock market with wild swings, which IMO, will either settle into a bear market - steadily declining to reasonable levels below 20k, or a huge crash prompted by a stupid Trump move - like exiting NAFTA...putting Trump in the same place W was...saying stupid shit like, "the fundamentals of the economy are strong..." and nobody believing him because tens of thousands are being laid off work. I see a huge corporate tax cut that has barely affected the economy at all...and adds $2trillion/yr to the deficit. There is NOT this huge investment in America and its workers that Trump promised...sure, you can cite single examples to make you feel good - but the economy as a whole has not made a huge swing. I see a country that is less respected by the world, a country who is less influential, a country that has intentionally positioned itself to being a follower and not a leader. I see a liar in office who says shit that you all want to hear, even if it is IMPOSSIBLE to follow through with; he was supposed to tear up the Iran deal on HIS FIRST DAY...along with Obamacare. Neither happened, and yes, Obamacare still exists, a border wall that he can't fund. His only major accomplishment was tax reform - when even HE admitted was really a corporate tax cut, and HE said he couldn't admit that until it passed. He has done NOTHING for middle America, except talk out of his ass...and people are beginning to realize that. Trump is a salesman, not a deal maker or negotiator. He's the guy who sells somebody a beat up old Ford POS, but leaves you feeling like you bought a new Porsche. He is a pathological liar who lies about things more than he tells the truth...and the sad thing is, he seems to believe his own lies are the truth...just because he said it.

And, your answer to this? "HIllary! Yeah, she needs to go to jail!" Good luck with that in November and 2020.

If everything is coming up roses because of Obama, why are you on here daily screaming about Trump? Seems everything Trump tries to influence (economy, foreign affairs etc) has already been permanently fixed by Obama. The truth is, the Obama economy was largely anemic starting with a stimulus that was far too small. ISIS has been decimated because Trump imbued generals with the authority to call the shots - instead of requiring WH approval. The tax cut has had positive ramifications for workers everywhere. North Korea, coming to the table, trustworthy or not, is definitely a move in the right direction. You are just a partisan flunky who can't give credit where credit is due.

[The_Noble_Cause]

In defense of what? A President who was talked into staying in NAFTA?

NAFTA is being re-negotiated. Mexican Economy Minister and Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister met again this week. The revised NAFTA will allegedly make the car industry source parts from the US. Like it or now, Trump has stuck to his word on being in favor of fair trade. Obama ran against NAFTA on the campaign trail and didn't do a fucking thing.

A President who was reported to want back into the TPP?

According to the White House, Trump is "open to a substantially better" TPP. What is wrong with that? He's not endorsing TPP in its current form.

The only difference between Trump and his predecessors is Trump lies constantly to keep naive people like you believing in him.

As shown above, your examples of Trump's lies (NAFTA, TPP) are all bullshit.

[Boomchild]

You either: Believe Donald Dumbass Trump when he said they are self-inspecting (a lie). Or, you know they have been inspecting twice as often via UN inspectors who say Iran is complying with the agreement...and you just want to bait me into some lame argument about the UN doing the inspections, and/or the fact they do not see a need to inspect the military

My understanding has been that there hasn't been inspections since the inception of the agreement. Where are the details of these inspections you are referring to?

But, whatever. The fact is they were months away from having a bomb. Does Iran have a bomb since the deal has been in place for over a year? Didn't think so.

The agreement does not stop Iran from building a nuke. It only delays it by ten years, according to reports out there. So if anyone thinks this making the world a safer place, they're kidding themselves. This is why Trump feels the agreement is nonsense.

Nope, did not know that at that time. That is NOT what Macron was saying just a day prior. What this tells me is that Trump has already made up his mind to end the deal and Macron could not change it. A really stupid idea.

Macron's past position(s) doesn't matter. What matters is his current position. Macron like the rest of the planet knew Trump was not going to agree to keep the current deal in place. What is important is Macron came out to the press conference singing a different tune. So something Trump did or said to him CHANGED his position. Which is he expects another agreement will be drafted.

[Boomchild]

Newly relased text messages reveal FBI agent was friends with Judge in Flynn case.

Actually I believe this has been known for quite some time. I've heard this mentioned prior to the release of these texts.

[Boomchild]

A lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Kim and his ilk. I doubt he's about to shed everything he "believes" in and accepts the "ways of the West." The guy's not on the level to start with.

Who said Kim is going to completely abandon his ideology? Just because he backs down on building a nuclear weapons program and\or opens talks with SK doesn't mean he is abandoning his ideology. What this means is Trump's stance and the sanctions are making him re-think some of his positions.

[verslibre]

North Korea on it's knees

A lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Kim and his ilk. I doubt he's about to shed everything he "believes" in and accepts the "ways of the West." The guy's not on the level to start with.

Yet Clinton, Obama, and both bush's bent over a table and presented for his family. Trump stood up and said fuck you, go for it.

That has nothing to do with what I said, apart from your projecting you like to bend over. A lot.

[verslibre]

A lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Kim and his ilk. I doubt he's about to shed everything he "believes" in and accepts the "ways of the West." The guy's not on the level to start with.

Who said Kim is going to completely abandon his ideology? Just because he backs down on building a nuclear weapons program and\or opens talks with SK doesn't mean he is abandoning his ideology. What this means is Trump's stance and the sanctions are making him re-think some of his positions.

Rethink, perhaps. "On his knees," as KC implied: No.

[Boomchild]

ISIS has been decimated because Trump imbued generals with the authority to call the shots - instead of requiring WH approval.

I would also add this. It's no secret that major players in Saudi Arabia were funding ISIS. Trump went there and talked to their leadership. Next thing you know SA started arresting these major players and seizing their assets. This indicates that ISIS' funding is being strained or cut off.

[Boomchild]

http://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed

What is interesting about the statement below is this is exactly the type of thing Trey Gowdy has said about Mueller. In the past Gowdy is on record saying he respects Mueller and thinks he is fair and a straight shooter. That is why I am now somewhat leery of Gowdy.

Any Republican who says anything resembling,
“Bob Mueller will do a good job as Special Counsel,” “Bob Mueller has a great reputation for being fair,” or anything similar; (A) wants President Trump indicted for something and removed from office regardless of
his innocence; (B) is intentionally ignorant of the myriad of outrageous problems
permeating Mueller’s professional history; or (C) is cultivating future Democrat votes
when he or she comes before the Senate someday for a confirmation hearing.

[Boomchild]

Where Mueller goes next.

https://medium.com/@allanishac/trump-ma ... 1e246d9fc2

This report left out another critical point from Trump's past. Eye witnesses confirm seeing the young Donald Trump eating candy that was imported from Russia. This provides evidence of life long collusion with the Russians. Eye witnesses also reported that the young Trump refused to share said candy with other less fortunate children in his neighborhood.

[Boomchild]

[ohsherrie]

Where Mueller goes next.

https://medium.com/@allanishac/trump-ma ... 1e246d9fc2

I wouldn't be surprised if he went that far.

[ohsherrie]

http://www.scribd.com/document/377409983/Gohmert-Mueller-UNMASKED#from_embed

What is interesting about the statement below is this is exactly the type of thing Trey Gowdy has said about Mueller. In the past Gowdy is on record saying he respects Mueller and thinks he is fair and a straight shooter. That is why I am now somewhat leery of Gowdy.

Any Republican who says anything resembling,
“Bob Mueller will do a good job as Special Counsel,” “Bob Mueller has a great reputation for being fair,” or anything similar; (A) wants President Trump indicted for something and removed from office regardless of
his innocence; (B) is intentionally ignorant of the myriad of outrageous problems
permeating Mueller’s professional history; or (C) is cultivating future Democrat votes
when he or she comes before the Senate someday for a confirmation hearing.

The last interview I read from Gowdy he was talking about what a good and fair investigator Mueller was. I was hoping he was just being political but this article makes me doubt him.

[Boomchild]

Reports coming in that a group of senators are trying to protect the Mueller from being shut down. This coming on the heals of Congress being handed the Strzok\Page "missing" texts. Coincidence? I think not.

[Monker]

You either: Believe Donald Dumbass Trump when he said they are self-inspecting (a lie). Or, you know they have been inspecting twice as often via UN inspectors who say Iran is complying with the agreement...and you just want to bait me into some lame argument about the UN doing the inspections, and/or the fact they do not see a need to inspect the military

My understanding has been that there hasn't been inspections since the inception of the agreement. Where are the details of these inspections you are referring to?

You are simply ignorant. Iran gets two snap inspections per month. You can't see the report because it is classified. But, it has been in the news for over a year that these inspections are happening and the International Atomic Energy Agency has reported that Iran is in compliance with the deal.

But, whatever. The fact is they were months away from having a bomb. Does Iran have a bomb since the deal has been in place for over a year? Didn't think so.

The agreement does not stop Iran from building a nuke. It only delays it by ten years, according to reports out there. So if anyone thinks this making the world a safer place, they're kidding themselves. This is why Trump feels the agreement is nonsense.[/quote]

Dude, prior to the deal, Iran's nuke was months away...not 10yrs. And, it not only delays building a bomb by it removes nuclear grade uranium and many centrifuges to purify uranium. You are simply ignoring the reality of what the deal does and substituting Trump's fantasy of what it does and doesn't do. I

Nope, did not know that at that time. That is NOT what Macron was saying just a day prior. What this tells me is that Trump has already made up his mind to end the deal and Macron could not change it. A really stupid idea.

Macron's past position(s) doesn't matter. What matters is his current position. Macron like the rest of the planet knew Trump was not going to agree to keep the current deal in place. What is important is Macron came out to the press conference singing a different tune. So something Trump did or said to him CHANGED his position. Which is he expects another agreement will be drafted.

What he said to congress is: "It is true to say this agreement may not address all concerns and every important concerns, this is true, but we should not abandon it without having something substantial and more substantial instead." Macron again suggested a new deal that France and the U.S. can write together to address existing concerns.a

"France will not leave JCPOA because we signed it," said Macron, using the acronym for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. "But what I want to do and what we decided together with your president is that we can work on a more comprehensive deal addressing all these concerns."

So, he does NOT appose the current deal...he only supports replacing it with something "substantially better". Which, IMO, will never happen....Kinda like NAFTA, Trump will not get the deal he really wants. He is not this master negotiator and deal maker. He has proven that he does not understand that compromise means you have to give something up to get something. Without compromise - you get NOTHING, no healthcare deal, no funding for the wall, no "good" budget deal, no deal for DACA....and no new deal for the Iran nuclear program, no deal for NAFTA, and I will even say - no deal with North Korea.

[Monker]

Reports coming in that a group of senators are trying to protect the Mueller from being shut down. This coming on the heals of Congress being handed the Strzok\Page "missing" texts. Coincidence? I think not.

This has been considered for MONTHS now. It has nothing to do with "missing texts". Even Chuck Grassley voted for it...the chairman of the committee, Republican, and critic of Mueller's investigation.

[verslibre]

[Boomchild]

You are simply ignorant. Iran gets two snap inspections per month. You can't see the report because it is classified. But, it has been in the news for over a year that these inspections are happening and the International Atomic Energy Agency has reported that Iran is in compliance with the deal.

Oh how convenient that the reports are classified.

Dude, prior to the deal, Iran's nuke was months away...not 10yrs. And, it not only delays building a bomb by it removes nuclear grade uranium and many centrifuges to purify uranium. You are simply ignoring the reality of what the deal does and substituting Trump's fantasy of what it does and doesn't do. I

All it does is kick the can down the road. It does not eliminate them from being able to produce a nuclear weapon. So in my opinion it's a useless agreement.

What he said to congress is: "It is true to say this agreement may not address all concerns and every important concerns, this is true, but we should not abandon it without having something substantial and more substantial instead." Macron again suggested a new deal that France and the U.S. can write together to address existing concerns.a

"France will not leave JCPOA because we signed it," said Macron, using the acronym for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. "But what I want to do and what we decided together with your president is that we can work on a more comprehensive deal addressing all these concerns."

So, he does NOT appose the current deal...he only supports replacing it with something "substantially better". Which, IMO, will never happen....Kinda like NAFTA, Trump will not get the deal he really wants. He is not this master negotiator and deal maker. He has proven that he does not understand that compromise means you have to give something up to get something. Without compromise - you get NOTHING, no healthcare deal, no funding for the wall, no "good" budget deal, no deal for DACA....and no new deal for the Iran nuclear program, no deal for NAFTA, and I will even say - no deal with North Korea.

I didn't say he opposes the current deal. His attempts to change Trump's position failed. That is why he is now talking about the only way he would agree to ditch the agreement is if something else replaces it. That is a change in his position.

[Boomchild]

Reports coming in that a group of senators are trying to protect the Mueller from being shut down. This coming on the heals of Congress being handed the Strzok\Page "missing" texts. Coincidence? I think not.

This has been considered for MONTHS now. It has nothing to do with "missing texts". Even Chuck Grassley voted for it...the chairman of the committee, Republican, and critic of Mueller's investigation.

I beg to differ. It has everything to do with the texts in question as well as the thrashing the investigation is being hit with. Where's the collusion? Oh all that stuff is "classified". The fat lady is clearing her throat on Mueller.

[Andrew]

Drumpf on Faux & Fiends today - bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That was AWESOME!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Reports coming in that a group of senators are trying to protect the Mueller from being shut down. This coming on the heals of Congress being handed the Strzok\Page "missing" texts. Coincidence? I think not.

Mueller should be shut down. You have a special counsel and nobody even knows what it's investigating.

[steveo777]

Reports coming in that a group of senators are trying to protect the Mueller from being shut down. This coming on the heals of Congress being handed the Strzok\Page "missing" texts. Coincidence? I think not.

Mueller should be shut down. You have a special counsel and nobody even knows what it's investigating.

Mueller doesn't have shit on Trump, but yet, he churns like a tumble weed, looking for a crime in anyone he can find. He didn't find it with Trump, so he continues to try and bring down anyone close to Trump. How do you raid Trump tower? I'm sure he'd love to have his dogs do that. Don't think for a second that he wouldn't give that order to a NY team, based on "something". How far is too far? I say it's already crossed some lines.

[Boomchild]

Mueller doesn't have shit on Trump, but yet, he churns like a tumble weed, looking for a crime in anyone he can find. He didn't find it with Trump, so he continues to try and bring down anyone close to Trump. How do you raid Trump tower? I'm sure he'd love to have his dogs do that. Don't think for a second that he wouldn't give that order to a NY team, based on "something". How far is too far? I say it's already crossed some lines.

Mueller has become desperate, looking to cobble together anything. I believe the argument can be made that he has gone beyond the scope of the investigation. The opposition against Trump knows the investigation is in trouble. Hence the action by some Senators to protect Mueller from being shut down. They need to keep the Russian collusion narrative going. It appears to me they know it's going to collapse and that is why we are seeing the DNC bringing the lawsuit against the Trump campaign, Russia, Wikileaks and Roger Stone. On a side note, I we should be asking how did Mueller get his net worth of 18 million?