They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

Goodlatte moves to subpoena FBI agent accused of anti-Trump bias

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte started the clock Friday on a procedure to subpoena Peter Strzok, the FBI agent accused by an internal Justice Department watchdog of harboring intense bias against President Donald Trump.

The Virginia Republican's move comes on the heels of a critical Justice Department inspector general report that delivered a harsh assessment of Strzok's animus toward Trump, revealed through private text messages to FBI attorney Lisa Page that were uncovered during the internal investigation.

Two sources briefed on subpoena effort indicated that Goodlatte has formally notified his Democratic counterparts of his intent to subpoena Strzok, a step that launches a two-day waiting period before he can officially issue the subpoena, under committee procedures.

Goodlatte's official notice to his colleagues points toward a subpoena being issued as early as next week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/ ... ias-648993

Goodlatte is going to face an uphill battle on this one. Even though IG expressed concern over Strzok's bias, in the end he reported that he could not find ANYTHING that effected his actions in the investigation. Here is a good question, why is Strzok STILL employed at the FBI? Hello Wray??? If Wray is supposed to restore honor and credibility to the FBI, he needs to at the very least give Strzok the boot.

[ohsherrie]

I have a really hard time believing that with as much blatant bias as is in that report that it didn't effect the investigation. Example: If Strozk was reviewing emails to decide what level of classification applied, would he be more or less likely to classify them in Hillary's favor? I don't know if he did any reviewing of emails but the same principle applies to any of a number of tasks he was involved with. I think the IG's language on that matter is at worst biased itself and at best misleading.

Just because the IG couldn't say for sure that such a thing happened doesn't mean it didn't. That's something I hope the Oversight Committee will question.

[verslibre]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

[verslibre]

[The_Noble_Cause]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

I don't see the big deal. Stalin killed millions and we lovingly called him "Uncle Joe." Buddying up to dictators (when its in our interests) is as American as apple pie.

[ohsherrie]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

I don't see the big deal. Stalin killed millions and we lovingly called him "Uncle Joe." Buddying up to dictators (when its in our interests) is as American as apple pie.

We've put dictators in office.

[verslibre]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

I don't see the big deal. Stalin killed millions and we lovingly called him "Uncle Joe." Buddying up to dictators (when its in our interests) is as American as apple pie.

Not sure what you saw. I'm referring to this tweet at the link: "[Kim] speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same."

Maybe he needs to contract a dog trainer.

[ohsherrie]

To clarify a bit, we didn’t know about the whole Obama crew having personal gmail accounts, the IG report tell us the new info, now we get more emails from Google we knew nothing about. Whole new can of worms was opened with the report yesterday.

Who will be investigating those? Surely not the Faux Bureau of Insubordinance.

[Boomchild]

I have a really hard time believing that with as much blatant bias as is in that report that it didn't effect the investigation. Example: If Strozk was reviewing emails to decide what level of classification applied, would he be more or less likely to classify them in Hillary's favor? I don't know if he did any reviewing of emails but the same principle applies to any of a number of tasks he was involved with. I think the IG's language on that matter is at worst biased itself and at best misleading.

Just because the IG couldn't say for sure that such a thing happened doesn't mean it didn't. That's something I hope the Oversight Committee will question.

You and a lot of other people are having a hard time. The report basically says that the IG observed bias actions but could not find "documented evidence" that showed the bias effected the actions and "application of the law" within the investigation. One good question would be to ask what does the IG mean by "documented evidence"? We are not fools and in my opinion the Page and Strozk message exchanges are enough to taint and discredit the whole investigation. Add to that Comey's choice to begin writing his determination letter long before all evidence was examined. Then add that the wording in the letter was changed from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless". That one change alone has a MAJOR impact in the legal world. Furthermore does the IG think that these people would be dumb enough to leave a paper trail on what amounts to a coup?

In my opinion what we are witnessing here is the same old same old. Investigations and reviews and NOTHING really becomes of it. The guilty walk free. When was the last time you saw a result were a Congressional Oversight Committee lead to people being prosecuted? I suspect that there are many in the legislature tied to the corrupt actions of HRC\WJC. If they were prosecuted, many others would go down with them as well. We know that they are NOT going to hang themselves in the process. Heck I would not be surprised that some of the people tied to the HRC\WJC corruption are sitting on the oversight committees. I'm not just talking about democrats here either.

Bottom line, President Trump committed to the American public that he was going to drain the swamp. I think what we have seem so far is the small stuff. Not enough to really effect anything. In order to drain the swamp you have to obliterate the "deep state". If that doesn't happen then everything President Trump is doing is for nothing. Meaning that after his term(s) in office the "deep state" will have huge chance of regaining control the office of POTUS. Let that sink in folks.

[Boomchild]

From this morning.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ppearance/

And Boomchild, I understand. I'm wondering why Trump doesn't call Rosensteins ass back and fire it. But, the voters know. They see what happened and are sick of it. Hollywoods bullshit isn't flying any more. DeNiro made a total ass of himself. Look at TNC for example. He's far from the only lib that see's things for what they are. The list of blind idiots is dwendling.

Sure people are "seeing" it. "Seeing" and doing are two different things. We have all seen the countless demonstrations and marches around the country for the progressive, socialist and liberal causes. When have we seen demonstrations and marches by plain and simple AMERICANS calling for real transparency and JUSTICE to be done? President Trump is the lone wolf in our government wanting to expose and eliminate the corruption within our federal government. He can't do it alone. When are AMERICANS going to step up and REALLY engage? And I'm not talking at the voting booth. I used to think that Trump had a partner and ally in military intelligence. Helping him obliterate the "deep state". Now I'm not so sure.

[Boomchild]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

I don't see the big deal. Stalin killed millions and we lovingly called him "Uncle Joe." Buddying up to dictators (when its in our interests) is as American as apple pie.

Oh and lets not forget Osama Bin Laden was considered an "ally" of our government.

[Boomchild]

The IG report tells us that most of those involved used gmail addresses, I’m hearing we might see some of those emails. They couldn’t convict Hillary without convicting themselves. Remember Schmidt quit Google.

It’s coming boomer, hang in there.

I wish I could share your optimism but I just can't at this stage. As far as Schmidt goes he's up to his neck in the political corruption committed by the DNC and HRC. It was Schmidt who provided the use of Crowd Strike to examine the "hacked" DNC servers. It was Schmidt that was responsible for creating special algorithms to promote HRC's bid for POTUS and undermine Trumps. To this day will still don't know why he was in N.K.. It has the smell of the "deep state" though. I contend that Schmidt is a CIA operative and N.K. was part of a plan by the "deep state" to keep the war mongering afloat. It's also interesting that Schmidt stepped down from Alphabet the day AFTER Trump signed the EO (12/21/17) that deals with human trafficking and allows the IRS to seize the assets of people and companies found to be engaging in such activities. Yet like HRC and others he is still roaming free.

[Andrew]

What a joke!

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1007610678910255105

I don't see the big deal. Stalin killed millions and we lovingly called him "Uncle Joe." Buddying up to dictators (when its in our interests) is as American as apple pie.

We've put dictators in office.

Fuck me...you guys will justify anything. And tearing kids from their families at the border? You all would have just loved Germany in 1938.

[Andrew]

There is zero debate here. It's just a group of sad white Americans swinging on the nuts of the worst leader in modern history, who will rot in jail with the rest of his crime family.

See ya.

[Boomchild]

There is zero debate here. It's just a group of sad white Americans swinging on the nuts of the worst leader in modern history, who will rot in jail with the rest of his crime family.

See ya.

Make that threat #2 that you aren't going to participate in this thread anymore.

BTW, I respectfully answered the questions YOU wanted answers to. As of this moment, you haven't responded. So I have no clue what the hell you are expecting.

[Boomchild]

Fuck me...you guys will justify anything. And tearing kids from their families at the border? You all would have just loved Germany in 1938.

And just who is responsible for putting children in such a situation? That's right... their parents who chose to take the risks of attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. THEY are the ones to blame. BTW, I find your criticism on this subject interesting. Based your country's history on illegal migration and the treatment of those detained. Scroll up and read the info. I shared. People who attempt to enter the U.S. illegally deserve only one thing. DEPORTATION. No matter what age, race, color o religion they are.

[steveo777]

Fuck me...you guys will justify anything. And tearing kids from their families at the border? You all would have just loved Germany in 1938.

And just who is responsible for putting children in such a situation? That's right... their parents who chose to take the risks of attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. THEY are the ones to blame. BTW, I find your criticism on this subject interesting. Based your country's history on illegal migration and the treatment of those detained. Scroll up and read the info. I shared. People who attempt to enter the U.S. illegally deserve only one thing. DEPORTATION. No matter what age, race, color o religion they are.

American citizens who commit crimes in this country are also separated from their children. Let that sink in for a minute.
Anyone who enters this country illegally, has committed a crime...a felony, upon the second illegal crossing. People who break the law to come here, do not have the right to demand anything of us. AND...these separations did not begin with Trump. There was plenty going on in the Obama era. Trump didn't magically create new laws. They were already on the books and are being enforced, for those who think this is all Trump's fault.

As long as I'm seeing rampant homelessness and disabled veterans on the street, I could give two fucks what is going on with everyone else in the world. Take care of our own first, then we'll talk about world problems.

[ohsherrie]

Fuck me...you guys will justify anything. And tearing kids from their families at the border? You all would have just loved Germany in 1938.

And just who is responsible for putting children in such a situation? That's right... their parents who chose to take the risks of attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. THEY are the ones to blame. BTW, I find your criticism on this subject interesting. Based your country's history on illegal migration and the treatment of those detained. Scroll up and read the info. I shared. People who attempt to enter the U.S. illegally deserve only one thing. DEPORTATION. No matter what age, race, color o relig'ion they are.

American citizens who commit crimes in this country are also separated from their children. Let that sink in for a minute.
Anyone who enters this country illegally, has committed a crime...a felony, upon the second illegal crossing. People who break the law to come here, do not have the right to demand anything of us. AND...these separations did not begin with Trump. There was plenty going on in the Obama era. Trump didn't magically create new laws. They were already on the books and are being enforced, for those who think this is all Trump's fault.

As long as I'm seeing rampant homelessness and disabled veterans on the street, I could give two fucks what is going on with everyone else in the world. Take care of our own first, then we'll talk about world problems.

That is pretty much what I'm going to say. Children are taken away from their parents every day in this country and I would assume also in Australia because their parents are arrested or because their parents just aren't fit to be parents. The parents of thes children fit both of those descriptions. They criminally crossed the border illegally and no decent parents would make their children part of their crime.

[ohsherrie]

From this morning.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ppearance/

And Boomchild, I understand. I'm wondering why Trump doesn't call Rosensteins ass back and fire it. But, the voters know. They see what happened and are sick of it. Hollywoods bullshit isn't flying any more. DeNiro made a total ass of himself. Look at TNC for example. He's far from the only lib that see's things for what they are. The list of blind idiots is dwendling.

Sure people are "seeing" it. "Seeing" and doing are two different things. We have all seen the countless demonstrations and marches around the country for the progressive, socialist and liberal causes. When have we seen demonstrations and marches by plain and simple AMERICANS calling for real transparency and JUSTICE to be done? President Trump is the lone wolf in our government wanting to expose and eliminate the corruption within our federal government. He can't do it alone. When are AMERICANS going to step up and REALLY engage? And I'm not talking at the voting booth. I used to think that Trump had a partner and ally in military intelligence. Helping him obliterate the "deep state". Now I'm not so sure.

When the Trump voters rise up, and that time may be getting closer, it won't be wearing genitalia costumes, burning effigies and flags or wearing tea bags on their hats. They won't be fodder for the left wing media to make a circus of.

[ohsherrie]

There is zero debate here. It's just a group of sad white Americans swinging on the nuts of the worst leader in modern history, who will rot in jail with the rest of his crime family.

See ya.

When you ask questions we answer. When Monker challenges something we say we answer. What do you call a debate? Do you want a list of questions and a moderator?

[Memorex]

We have had a civil war in this country! We had actual debates about the rights of women and minorities. We kept Japanese Americans in camps. We propped up and toppled horrific world leaders while being lied to in both directions. We went to war based on bad intelligence and possibly fraud. I grew up fearing the Russians and the bomb. And let's not even start on what our own congress has done in the past to marginalize Native Americans.

The only thing going on today that can even attempt to compete with those things is the increase in hate-filled rhetoric of politics and the politicization of our intelligence (investigative, administrative, and prosecutorial) agencies.

This is not even close to the worst political climate in our history.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Fuck me...you guys will justify anything.

No. I just know my history. America sides with murderous dictators when it suits us. And then when those relationships take a turn, we overthrow their governments. If you ever want to discuss actual facts, let me know. All you have are personal attacks and a pollyanna view of America pre-Trump.

And tearing kids from their families at the border? You all would have just loved Germany in 1938.

Funny, the only person using Hitleresque rhetoric to demonize those he disagrees with on here is you. As for the children..... when parents commit a crime, kids are always taken away. I ask again, how many are you willing to take in. Put up or shut up.

[The_Noble_Cause]

There is zero debate here. It's just a group of sad white Americans swinging on the nuts of the worst leader in modern history, who will rot in jail with the rest of his crime family.

See ya.

Several posters, including myself, took time to sincerely address your request and explain what motivated us to vote for Trump. As usual, you run and hide. I won't make that mistake again. You are just here royally taking the piss. If you're going to bugger off, just fucking do it already.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I’d just like to know why you folks support Trump. I get Republican vs Democrat ... but why Trump?

I believe that most of us here have honestly answered this question before. We support him because in general he addressed issues that were important to us. Such as, border security, addressing the illegal immigration problem, addressing bad trade deals, lowering business and personal income taxes, making sure our military is in the shape it needs to be protect the country and in general having a stance that the needs of the country come first before anything else. Also the fact the he spoke out about not buying into the globalist mindset that the majority of past Presidents have. We continue to support him because he is delivering on those commitments.

If you truly get the Republican vs. Democrat thing you would know that really doesn't exist anymore. That is the "dog and pony" show put on by the establishment. The bad actors exist in both "parties". It is the citizens against politicians that are willing to sell out America for their own personal gain and to the benefit of those that line their pockets.

Dickhead has made racism acceptable, happily calls out any race but white Americans and the instances of open race hate crimes and abuse has skyrocketed. You folks accept that?

And just how has he done that? Are you referring to his comments about the illegals crossing the southern border? Are you referring to his comments about imposing the travel ban? As far as the illegals crossing the border he said "Mexico is not sending their best". That there are"rapists, murders and criminals crossing the border". He also said he is sure some of them are "GOOD people". All of which is TRUE. Some may not like the brutal truth but if you truly want to address the problem you have acknowledge these things. As far as the travel ban and Muslims go, it was the media and politicians that made that about race. Trump enacted the ban on countries and regions that Congress already had deemed to be areas that had high terrorist activity. There was evidence that we did not have the ability to properly vet them in order to reduce and eliminate the possibility of terrorists being able to slip in "under the radar". BTW, Can you point to where Obama called out the African American community.

Fox News openly spews bullshit that the Trump base eats up. Why is that ok? Why was it evil for Obama to talk about discussions with North Korea, but godly now Trump is doing it?

I can only speak for myself. Which is I don't watch\read FOX news on a regular basis. How can you expect people to believe you are objective about this subject when you seem to not talk about the bias of other MSM news outlets?

Do all Republicans hate Obama because he was black?

No, what people and not just "Republicans" didn't like was Obama's actions and policies as POTUS. We did not agree with his world view and whole host of progressive ideals he has. Now that he is no longer POTUS he isn't just commenting on what he thinks is wrong with the current administrations policies and actions. Now he is actively taking trips overseas and speaking with foreign leaders about U.S. policy. No other past POTUS has been that directly involved after leaving office. He is not going to these places to help support the current POTUS but to undermine him.

The whole Trump organisation’s ties to corruption. Why is that ok?

Your painting with a very broad brush here. Hopefully you have facts to support this claim.

The Trump family are milking your country for billions...the Republican Party is at risk of becoming the modern day KKK.

And specifically just how are they milking the country? Modern day KKK, just how is that specifically?

As expected, Andrew did not respond to you or me. Sucks when all you have is frothing-at-the-mouth outrage and no facts to back it up. I would really just ignore his posts going forward (especially his bogus appeals for dialogue). Waste of time. From the way he talks, it sounds like he would like to shove every Trump voter into an oven or gas chamber. One can throw these cheap Nazi insults right back at him. Dude probably has a personally autographed, dog-eared copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand (right next to Kama Sutra: Anal Edition). With this guy, it's all genocidal hate all the time. Drew's idol, der Führer, must be looking up from the pits of hell pleased as punch.

[verslibre]

1) The comment about "decent parents," etc. Yes, there are many decent parents, decent people, merely trying to make/find a better lives for their families. They're the pilgrims of the modern age. It's not like a mass exodus of cartel castoffs are driving over the border unsurveilled in a yuge caravan of motorhomes. That's just racist bullshit.

2) The gov't using the BIBLE to justify their stance is the biggest load I've ever seen, and no surprise it comes from this administration. If you're going to start using Bible verses and the Commandments to justify your doctrines and laws, then you'd better start following them. Until I see otherwise, the only god — lower-case g — that the President serves is mammon. "You cannot serve both God and mammon."

[Boomchild]

As expected, Andrew did not respond to you or me. Sucks when all you have is frothing-at-the-mouth outrage and no facts to back it up. I would really just ignore his posts going forward (especially his bogus appeals for dialogue). Waste of time. From the way he talks, it sounds like he would like to shove every Trump voter into an oven or gas chamber. One can throw these cheap Nazi insults right back at him. Dude probably has a personally autographed, dog-eared copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand (right next to Kama Sutra: Anal Edition). With this guy, it's all genocidal hate all the time. Drew's idol, der Führer, must be looking up from the pits of hell pleased as punch.

TNC, What I find interesting is Andrew posts, responds or doesn't respond much like the way Monker has. Perhaps that explains why he took such interest in the spat that occurred between you and Monker awhile back in this thread. If I didn't know better I would believe we are witnessing some LARP action here. One would think people start a forum so people can freely express themselves, have an open dialogue and discussions. I believe you are correct that responding to anything Andrew posts on this subject has become a waste of time.

[verslibre]

So was anyone fired for satirizing Obama?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/opinion/cartoonist-rob-rogers-trump-fired.html

[The_Noble_Cause]

So was anyone fired for satirizing Obama?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/opinion/cartoonist-rob-rogers-trump-fired.html

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is a private company. As with most companies, employees can be fired at will. Grow up, dude.

[The_Noble_Cause]

1) The comment about "decent parents," etc. Yes, there are many decent parents, decent people, merely trying to make/find a better lives for their families. They're the pilgrims of the modern age. It's not like a mass exodus of cartel castoffs are driving over the border unsurveilled in a yuge caravan of motorhomes. That's just racist bullshit.

Tell me, if I rob a bank to pay for chemo, what happens to me? Laws don't cease to exist because perpetrators are motivated by noble reasons. Again, grow up.

[verslibre]

So was anyone fired for satirizing Obama?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/opinion/cartoonist-rob-rogers-trump-fired.html

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette is a private company. As with most companies, employees can be fired at will. Grow up, dude.

I'll grow up when you stop suckin' up, buddy. Now answer the question.