President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[donnaplease]

I disagree about him winning because of a likeability factor. He won the presidency simply because #1) he's a black man and got a huge response from the black community, #2) people didn't care for John McCain and/or Sarah Palin as an alternative, and #3) the democrats did an effective job in their anti-Bush rhetoric.

You forgot one.
4) The GOP fucked up BIG time. Bush was even persona non grata at the GOP's presidential convention that year. In his hail mary pass desperation, McCain even started running TV ads with him looking into camera saying: "My fellow Americans, the past few years haven't gone so well have they?"
I mean, how much more deperate can you get?

Well, I kinda tried to cover that in #2 & #3, but I agree with ya! In retrospect, I don't think they ever had a snowball's chance of winning that election. If things don't get better for him, Obama might find himself in that boat too in a year or so.

[donnaplease]

Make it a +6.

You guys rock... X6!!!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

In retrospect, I don't think they ever had a snowball's chance of winning that election. If things don't get better for him, Obama might find himself in that boat too in a year or so.

Things were lookin pretty good for McCain until the financial meltdown and he suspended his campaign.

[Ehwmatt]

In retrospect, I don't think they ever had a snowball's chance of winning that election. If things don't get better for him, Obama might find himself in that boat too in a year or so.

Things were lookin pretty good for McCain until the financial meltdown and he suspended his campaign.

They were? I thought at best they were 50-50 at best, maybe trading slight leads early that summer until the shit finally hit the fan, then it was a no-brainer.

[The_Noble_Cause]

They were? I thought at best they were 50-50 at best, maybe trading slight leads early that summer until the shit finally hit the fan, then it was a no-brainer.

Don't care enough to look up the actual numbers. I do remember McCain getting an initial bump from the Palin pick. Generally speaking, the crash was the point of no return. Up until then, things were improving in Iraq and the war was no longer at the forefront of attention. Then the crash happened, bringing Bush's incompetence into sharp focus all over again. It was too much. McCain couldn't distance himself from it.

[RossValoryRocks]

In retrospect, I don't think they ever had a snowball's chance of winning that election. If things don't get better for him, Obama might find himself in that boat too in a year or so.

Things were lookin pretty good for McCain until the financial meltdown and he suspended his campaign.

That was the end...right there...I couldn't vote for the man after that...and Palin...well...she LOOKED good (pun intended) at first, she LOOKED good all the way to the end...but like so many things that LOOK good...well...you find out that is just isn't so.

When McCain RUSHED back to contribute NOTHING to the disucssion on what was happening...well...he just looked like a politician...kind of like the "dead fish"...never let a good crisis go to waste...but he didn't even get that right did he?

[The_Noble_Cause]

That was the end...right there...I couldn't vote for the man after that...and Palin...well...she LOOKED good (pun intended) at first, she LOOKED good all the way to the end...but like so many things that LOOK good...well...you find out that is just isn't so.

When McCain RUSHED back to contribute NOTHING to the disucssion on what was happening...well...he just looked like a politician...kind of like the "dead fish"...never let a good crisis go to waste...but he didn't even get that right did he?

I thought Palin was a stroke of VP stunt casting genius, until she opened her yammer. McCain's whole "suspending the campaign" move just came off cynical and calculated - the complete opposite of being mavericky. By election day, I still thought McCain was gonna eke out a win. I think you accurately called the election on this forum 2 months or so before that.

[Rockindeano]

Obviously at this point you're the only one who feels this way, but if that's your stance, go for it. Obama can do anything he damned well pleases (as he's shown on more than one occasion), it doesn't mean it's the right thing for our country as a whole. I disagree about him winning because of a likeability factor. He won the presidency simply because #1) he's a black man and got a huge response from the black community, #2) people didn't care for John McCain and/or Sarah Palin as an alternative, and #3) the democrats did an effective job in their anti-Bush rhetoric.

Oh so I am the lone asshole here, so that must mean I am wrong, huh? Because this board swings 85-15 in favour of the GOP means I am wrong because I think YOUR guy started the riduculous verbiage and Obama just played off of him, so I guess Obama is at fault. Gotcha.

When you make comments like you did above, you make it clear that you care less about the country than you do about a political agenda.

Riiiggghhhht. So I called you out on a ridiculous post about you blaming Obama for not being above Boehner, and I only care about politics? I care enough about this country to have served it in the military and also I make sure I vote as to never let you assholes back in power again. Been there, done that. That was miserable.

[RossValoryRocks]

That was the end...right there...I couldn't vote for the man after that...and Palin...well...she LOOKED good (pun intended) at first, she LOOKED good all the way to the end...but like so many things that LOOK good...well...you find out that is just isn't so.

When McCain RUSHED back to contribute NOTHING to the disucssion on what was happening...well...he just looked like a politician...kind of like the "dead fish"...never let a good crisis go to waste...but he didn't even get that right did he?

I thought Palin was a stroke of VP stunt casting genius, until she opened her yammer. McCain's whole "suspending the campaign" move just came off cynical and calculated - the complete opposite of being mavericky. By election day, I still thought McCain was gonna eke out a win. I think you accurately called the election on this forum 2 months or so before that.

I said when the crisis broke...which was September 24th and he suspened the campaign...I said it was over for him...because it just showed that he was a normal politician...

[Rockindeano]

That was the end...right there...I couldn't vote for the man after that...and Palin...well...she LOOKED good (pun intended) at first, she LOOKED good all the way to the end...but like so many things that LOOK good...well...you find out that is just isn't so.

When McCain RUSHED back to contribute NOTHING to the disucssion on what was happening...well...he just looked like a politician...kind of like the "dead fish"...never let a good crisis go to waste...but he didn't even get that right did he?

I thought Palin was a stroke of VP stunt casting genius, until she opened her yammer. McCain's whole "suspending the campaign" move just came off cynical and calculated - the complete opposite of being mavericky. By election day, I still thought McCain was gonna eke out a win. I think you accurately called the election on this forum 2 months or so before that.

I said when the crisis broke...which was September 24th and he suspened the campaign...I said it was over for him...because it just showed that he was a normal politician...

You're wrong. That election was over as soon as Obama walked on stage at Invesco Field to accept the Democratic Nomination. It's a game of electoral college votes and he had that game won already. The fact McCain got a 'bump' from adding Airhead was nothing but sensationalism...he was never tied or ahead. Palin as most of us here pointed out, gave him nothing, and as a matter of fact, she took away a good deal from him. That choice might have ruined McCain. It proved what was America seeing this guy make bad choices. You can't get any more wrong than picking Sarah Palin for VP. The electorate saw right through that. I boldly told you Obama would win by 200 ev's. The final outcome was 365 to 173. I was pretty close.

[Rockindeano]

I said when the crisis broke...which was September 24th and he suspened the campaign...I said it was over for him...because it just showed that he was a normal politician...

McCain suspended his campaign to get people to look at him, to take notice. Then like you said, he goes back and sits at a table and doesn't speak a word. He had no clue what he was listening in on. He tried to shake up his campaign by suspending it because he was already toast. A terribly run campaign, but also, the guy had to run more or less on Bush, so he was fucked either way.

[RossValoryRocks]

That was the end...right there...I couldn't vote for the man after that...and Palin...well...she LOOKED good (pun intended) at first, she LOOKED good all the way to the end...but like so many things that LOOK good...well...you find out that is just isn't so.

When McCain RUSHED back to contribute NOTHING to the disucssion on what was happening...well...he just looked like a politician...kind of like the "dead fish"...never let a good crisis go to waste...but he didn't even get that right did he?

I thought Palin was a stroke of VP stunt casting genius, until she opened her yammer. McCain's whole "suspending the campaign" move just came off cynical and calculated - the complete opposite of being mavericky. By election day, I still thought McCain was gonna eke out a win. I think you accurately called the election on this forum 2 months or so before that.

I said when the crisis broke...which was September 24th and he suspened the campaign...I said it was over for him...because it just showed that he was a normal politician...

You're wrong. That election was over as soon as Obama walked on stage at Invesco Field to accept the Democratic Nomination. It's a game of electoral college votes and he had that game won already. The fact McCain got a 'bump' from adding Airhead was nothing but sensationalism...he was never tied or ahead. Palin as most of us here pointed out, gave him nothing, and as a matter of fact, she took away a good deal from him. That choice might have ruined McCain. It proved what was America seeing this guy make bad choices. You can't get any more wrong than picking Sarah Palin for VP. The electorate saw right through that. I boldly told you Obama would win by 200 ev's. The final outcome was 365 to 173. I was pretty close.

I wasn't wrong...I didn't see it until then.

As soon as I finish the side job I am doing I will send you the $2 per EV on the bet too...provided you send me your part of the Steelers/Cards SuperBowl bet...

Somewhere I have a PM from you saying that bringing in Palin was BRILLIANT...and then she opened her mouth...or something to that effect.

[Rockindeano]

Somewhere I have a PM from you saying that bringing in Palin was BRILLIANT...and then she opened her mouth...or something to that effect.

You're high on crack. I never said Palin and brilliant in the same breath. What that pick was was desperate. He needed something...so why not a hot milf who looks good? Hell, that was the only reason she came aboard. They obviously didn't vet her at all, given her sorely empty headed responses in many interviews. She was and is still not even close to what a large number of Cons want her to do. I pray to God she wins the GOP nomination. That will guarantee me personally that we won't have a republican in office for at least another 4 years. By the way, it was 3 dollars per ev. But that's water under the bridge..I forgot about that, but just don't go making up lies about me saying Brilliant and Palin in the same sentence.

[RossValoryRocks]

Somewhere I have a PM from you saying that bringing in Palin was BRILLIANT...and then she opened her mouth...or something to that effect.

You're high on crack. I never said Palin and brilliant in the same breath. What that pick was was desperate. He needed something...so why not a hot milf who looks good. hell, tha was the only reason she came aboard. They obviously didn't vet her at all, given her sorely empty headed responses in many interviews. She was and is still not even close to what a large number of Cons want her to do. I pray to God she wins the GOP nomination. That will guarantee me personally that we won't have a republican in office for at least another 4 years. By the way, it was 3 dollars per ev. But that's water under the bridge..I forgot about that, but just don't go making up lies about me saying Brilliant and Palin in the same sentence.

I will find it...and yes you did use that term...brilliant...not that she was...that McCain was brilliant for doing it, because the MILF part would distract people...and then she talked...it was all in one sentence too...I hope I still have it...

[7 Wishes]

I'm assuming that's tongue in cheek, LiePaster.

If you're actually courting the Globe (which still prints articles about Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, and Janis Joplin going on safaris together in Zimbabwe) as a "source" then you have truly lost it and sunk to a new low.

[7 Wishes]

What if it turned out Obama was actually Rudy Diamond?

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

I'm assuming that's tongue in cheek, LiePaster.

If you're actually courting the Globe (which still prints articles about Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, and Janis Joplin going on safaris together in Zimbabwe) as a "source" then you have truly lost it and sunk to a new low.

you guys can joke about this stuff all you want but morrison, joplin and elvis are still alive. They have a three bedroom ranch and raise zebra's in Madagascar. And those of you who believe those souped up stories of their deaths are probably the same guillible lot that believe that 1- the moon landing actually happened ( it was in a movie studio, after all someone already had to be on the ground taking the picture of Armstrong ) 2 - that Perry is coming back

If we could all go back to arguing politics and beating each other up over shit we cant never agree on like whether Ulysses S Grant hitting the sauce six times a day was the cause of the depression of 1873 or whether it was the shit cakes that Dolly Madison made whilst living in the whitehouse that was the real source of moral decay in america.

[AlteredDNA]

House Democrats ‘Deem’ Faux $1.1 Trillion Budget ‘as Passed’

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37893

Last night, as part of a procedural vote on the emergency war supplemental bill, House Democrats attached a document that “deemed as passed” a non-existent $1.12 trillion budget. The execution of the “deeming” document allows Democrats to start spending money for Fiscal Year 2011 without the pesky constraints of a budget.

The procedural vote passed 215-210 with no Republicans voting in favor and 38 Democrats crossing the aisle to vote against deeming the faux budget resolution passed.

Never before -- since the creation of the Congressional budget process -- has the House failed to pass a budget, failed to propose a budget then deemed the non-existent budget as passed as a means to avoid a direct, recorded vote on a budget, but still allow Congress to spend taxpayer money.

House Budget Committee Ranking Member Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) warned this was the green light for Democrats to continue their out-of-control spending virtually unchecked.

“Facing a record deficit and a tidal wave of debt, House Democrats decided it was politically inconvenient to put forward a budget and account for their fiscal recklessness. With no priorities and no restraints, the spending, taxing, and borrowing will continue unchecked for the coming fiscal year,” Ryan said. “The so-called ‘budget enforcement resolution’ enforces no budget, but instead provides a green light for the Appropriators to continue spending, exacerbating our looming fiscal crisis.”

As we reported on HUMAN EVENTS, CBO issued a dire warning about the long term outlook for the budget.

“Yesterday, the Congressional Budget Office rang the latest fiscal alarm with the release of The Long-Term Budget Outlook,” Ryan said. “Today, Congress again hit snooze. To avert a fiscal and economic calamity, Washington needs to wake up.”

Key points from the House Republican Budget staff on the House Democrats’ deeming resolution:

- This is not a budget. The measure fails to meet the most basic, commonly understood objectives of any budget. It does not set congressional priorities; it does not align overall spending, tax, deficit, and debt levels; and it does nothing to address the runaway spending of Federal entitlement programs.

- It is not a ‘congressional budget resolution.’ The measure does not satisfy even the most basic criteria of a budget resolution as set forth in the Congressional Budget Act.

- It creates a deception of spending ‘restraint.’ While claiming restraint in discretionary spending, the resolution increases non-emergency spending by $30 billion over 2010, and includes a number of gimmicks that give a green light to higher spending.

- It continues relying on the flawed and over-sold pay-as-you-go [pay-go] procedure. Pay-go – which Democrats have used mainly to raise taxes, and have ignored when it was inconvenient – does nothing to reduce deficits or restrain spending growth in existing law.

- Outsourcing fiscal responsibilities. The measure is another hand-off by the Democratic Majority of Congress’s power of the purse – this time relying on the Fiscal Commission created by the President to do Congress’s job.

[ohsherrie]

But the president should be above that fray, don'tcha think?

That sounds nice, but unfortunately it's not realistic in today's ADHD soundbyte media world. Political figures, the Prez or otherwise, have to remain on the offensive. Those that don't, open themselves up to being defined by their opposition, and turned into a walking John Kerry caricature. Harry Truman wasn't afraid of naming names and giving the Republicans hell. Right about now, Obama could use some of that steel nerve. I do think early in his term Obama misguidedly bought his own BS, and thought he could be a transformative post-partisan uniting figure.

And he soon found out what those noble ( ) swiftboating rethugs were really made of.

[treetopovskaya]

Coming soon to your local checkout lane...





Hawaiian state records clerk reveals:
No Proof Obama Was Born in the U.S.A.
Now his critics insist his presidency is totally illegal

"A former Hawaii records official is sending shock waves through Washington, D.C. by revealing there is absolutely no birth certificate for Barack Obama!

"The bombshell revelation backs up long-standing claims that Obama--who insists he was born in a Honolulu hospital--really took his first breath in Kenya and, as a result, violates the U.S. Constitution's requirements for the President to be a 'natural born' American.

"'I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity,' said Timothy Adams, who served as senior government records clerk in Honolulu in 2008. 'There is no birth certificate. I was informed by my boss that we did not have Obama's birth record."

his birth announcement was in the local paper... in hawaii.

[7 Wishes]

House Democrats ‘Deem’ Faux $1.1 Trillion Budget ‘as Passed’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37893

Ummm...considering your party forced through budgets that didn't include the costs of the Medicare plan of 2003 OR the costs of EITHER war...you have NO ground here. This is in no way NEARLY as borderline illegal as that.

Moving along.

[treetopovskaya]

Did anyone notice that yesterday, the very first and only tax on whites only took effect?

What you might ask was it?

The tanning salon tax. The one and only tax ever foisted on a specific race of people. The caucasian tax.

10% tax if you want a tan.

The thirty million WHITE Americans who visit indoor tanning facilities each year are being discriminated against with this racist tax.

lolol!

oh my sides hurt! }:C))

(tanning beds are NOT a good idea. skip the tanning bed & do the spray tan. just don't breathe while it's spraying! DOH! i REALLY wish i had my dad's dark skin!)

[AlteredDNA]

House Democrats ‘Deem’ Faux $1.1 Trillion Budget ‘as Passed’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37893

Ummm...considering your party forced through budgets that didn't include the costs of the Medicare plan of 2003 OR the costs of EITHER war...you have NO ground here. This is in no way NEARLY as borderline illegal as that.

Moving along.

My party? And did you even read the article? No comment on the content?

[7 Wishes]

My opinion? I think it's bullshit.

But nothing like the budgetary / fiduciary gang-rape the GOBP subjected Americans to for eight years of Dubbya's first "term" and "second" term.

[RossValoryRocks]

My opinion? I think it's bullshit.

But nothing like the budgetary / fiduciary gang-rape the GOBP subjected Americans to for eight years of Dubbya's first "term" and "second" term.

WHO CARES WHAT BUSH DID AT THIS POINT?!

You continually use the school yard "WELL THEY DID IT FIRST" bullshit.

If it was WRONG THEN...IT IS WRONG NOW.

Do you understand what they are doing??? They are the GOP x 10 right now. They are fucking us hard and you are so OBSESSED with George W. Bush you REFUSE to allow yourself to see it.

Myopia in the extreme.

[Rockindeano]

My opinion? I think it's bullshit.

But nothing like the budgetary / fiduciary gang-rape the GOBP subjected Americans to for eight years of Dubbya's first "term" and "second" term.

WHO CARES WHAT BUSH DID AT THIS POINT?!

You continually use the school yard "WELL THEY DID IT FIRST" bullshit.

If it was WRONG THEN...IT IS WRONG NOW.

Do you understand what they are doing??? They are the GOP x 10 right now. They are fucking us hard and you are so OBSESSED with George W. Bush you REFUSE to allow yourself to see it.

Myopia in the extreme.

You're wrong here too. The Dems aren't fucking us ten times harder than the Cons did...they are simply changing the likes of the country in a way that doesn't please you. Look, you had your eight years and we put up with it...all of it. It's your guys turn to take some.

[RossValoryRocks]

My opinion? I think it's bullshit.

But nothing like the budgetary / fiduciary gang-rape the GOBP subjected Americans to for eight years of Dubbya's first "term" and "second" term.

WHO CARES WHAT BUSH DID AT THIS POINT?!

You continually use the school yard "WELL THEY DID IT FIRST" bullshit.

If it was WRONG THEN...IT IS WRONG NOW.

Do you understand what they are doing??? They are the GOP x 10 right now. They are fucking us hard and you are so OBSESSED with George W. Bush you REFUSE to allow yourself to see it.

Myopia in the extreme.

You're wrong here too. The Dems aren't fucking us ten times harder than the Cons did...they are simply changing the likes of the country in a way that doesn't please you. Look, you had your eight years and we put up with it...all of it. It's your guys turn to take some.

You are not scanning right from wrong.

This years budget deficit UNREAL. It will almost EQUAL the deficits for ALL 8 years of George Bush alone...next year it will EXCEED IT.

That is the problem with you communist sympathizing goons; you always see things in terms of "It's our turn now", and like it said it's MYOPIC. You aren't seeing the forest through the trees. You see it is a chance to get even.

The nice thing is the Obama "hope and change" anal fisting of this country stops come November...well January when the new congress is sworn in.

[7 Wishes]

Nice try.

I've already made two posts from .gov websites proving that Dubbya fudged the budget to the tune of over $3 trillion in his 8 years. At least this Administration is honest. That's why the numbers look the way they do.

Stewie, it must be SOOO frustrating to be wrong all the time, and to get caught with your face in Rush's ball sac all the time.

[RossValoryRocks]

Nice try.

I've already made two posts from .gov websites proving that Dubbya fudged the budget to the tune of over $3 trillion in his 8 years. At least this Administration is honest. That's why the numbers look the way they do.

Stewie, it must be SOOO frustrating to be wrong all the time, and to get caught with your face in Rush's ball sac all the time.

You cannot FUDGE the deficit you braindead idiot.

[7 Wishes]

Go back a few pages. Yes, you can, and yes, they did.

THEY NEVER INCLUDED THE MEDICARE BENEFIT NOR EITHER WAR IN THEIR BUDGETS...duh....