President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[lights1961]

i don't know all the videos dave. two wrongs don't make a right. acorn is gone, breitbart and his fox followers should go too. the practice of calling oneself a journalist or news organization and get away with dissseminating complete lies as facts is wrong and immoral in my book.

Lula, other news organizations have been guilty of the same kinds of things. If anyone thinks Fox is worse than the likes of MSNBC, NBC, CBS, etc., they're fooling themselves. It's gone on since the dawn of media. Heck, I even remember as a kid or young teenager, hearing a story about NBC flat-out making up a story about some owl supposedly going extinct. More recently, some news organizations also did stories about the ANWR area of Alaska while showing a video that showed a place other than that area to make it look like it was some pristine wilderness full of trees, animals, etc., when that was actually far from the truth.

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

fox dares to tell the story differently than ABC NBC CNN CBS and MSNBC... thats what gets your ass in a tiffy...
and DEANO... so next time when the other networks take a snip it....and distort what was said to their SPIN... are you going to say anything... this kind of sound bite has been going on for decades... but now that FOX news is actually reporting on lots of news stuff that the other networks would have declined to report on... it pisses you off....

R

[Rockindeano]

Rick, do you even know what we're talking about? This isn't about telling a story differently. This is about editing and manufacturing a taped speech, to fit the agenda of a certain party. Fox proudly ran it, and fed off it. It is NOT a true story. It is completely made up. In fact, had the tape been seen unedited, you would see the black woman(Sharrod), ended up doing the right thing, and helping the needy white farmer, thus saving his family business. The white farmer was interviewed, and he was very fond of Sharrod, and thanked her greatly. Think I'm wrong? The White House is reversing the decision to fire her.

You aren't following here, bud. Either that or you are flat out lost.

[ohsherrie]

No other news organization has ever allowed misrepresentation of the facts like Faux does on a regular basis. CBS fired Dan Rather when one of his sources back peddled on him (under duress from the Bush administration) about Dumbya's skipping out on the National Guard.

Faux knows who their audience is and they know that audience will lap up any shit they spread around then lick there lips with a shit eating smile. They don't have to tell the truth, they just have to continue to be wingnuts so their base can identify with them.

[Memorex]

No other news organization has ever allowed misrepresentation of the facts like Faux does on a regular basis. CBS fired Dan Rather when one of his sources back peddled on him (under duress from the Bush administration) about Dumbya's skipping out on the National Guard.

Faux knows who their audience is and they know that audience will lap up any shit they spread around then lick there lips with a shit eating smile. They don't have to tell the truth, they just have to continue to be wingnuts so their base can identify with them.

You know - I'm an independent and I generally think both sides are a little nutty. But I have to say the one-sidedness of your posts are comical. You are not doing the left any favors. Can you seriously say, especially with the news of the last few days about reporters trying to cover for the left, that Fox is the only one bending news? That is laughable and it shows exactly what I think the problem here is. No one can give any ground and they dig in so deep, and they become so tied to these arguments that human nature won't allow them to view things from a fair perspective.

Both Fox and MSNBC can be credited for following important stories that other news orgs won't follow. And in the case of their opinion programs, you can count on an equal dose of tilt. Let's be honest - be fair here - Can you honestly say Keith Olbermann looks at stories in a fair and impartial manner? That guy is so whacked out and so tied to his convictions that he simply does not have an ability to report in a fair manner. Same with Hannity.

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

[ohsherrie]

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

Only for people who can't handle the truth. And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

[Memorex]

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

Only for people who can't handle the truth. And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

Actually, that has been the biggest issue for me. People that have an agenda only tell the truth, or the truth they believe, about the other side. Their side only gets defense. It's rampant.

[slucero]

[ohsherrie]

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

Only for people who can't handle the truth. And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

Actually, that has been the biggest issue for me. People that have an agenda only tell the truth, or the truth they believe, about the other side. Their side only gets defense. It's rampant.

There is not one thing that I've posted in this thread that isn't the truth. You may not like it, but that's to be expected because it's not the version of the truth that you want to hear. If anything I've said in this thread is scary to you then you must not be able to handle, or completely deny, the truth of what I say.

If you don't realize how completely corrupt Fox News is then I'd say it a matter of you not recognizing the truth when you hear it and if you've read many of my posts over the last few weeks you know that I'm really not liberal.

[lights1961]

Rick, do you even know what we're talking about? This isn't about telling a story differently. This is about editing and manufacturing a taped speech, to fit the agenda of a certain party. Fox proudly ran it, and fed off it. It is NOT a true story. It is completely made up. In fact, had the tape been seen unedited, you would see the black woman(Sharrod), ended up doing the right thing, and helping the needy white farmer, thus saving his family business. The white farmer was interviewed, and he was very fond of Sharrod, and thanked her greatly. Think I'm wrong? The White House is reversing the decision to fire her.

You aren't following here, bud. Either that or you are flat out lost.

always lost...thats a given... I did see where Vilsack is wanting to get her back on the job... Actually I read the story yesterday about the farmers wife being in tears about the lady being fired for what she said... and that they talked to each other on the phone about it...and in the end the AG helped out the farmer....

BTW, NEWS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALWAYS EDITED AND for their own spin!! News reporters for years have been doing this.


So when Lott talked wa at Strong Thermon's at his birthday party a few years ago...and soundbites were used against him it was alright to destroy Lotts career... but here its not okay? and anyother conservative who has speech taken out of context... you can destroy them... but here... no way... cant do it... see Deano, thats where you are cursed... my side always sucks and your side is in dream land of always always and always being right... I mean left... hahaha...

[Memorex]

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

Only for people who can't handle the truth. And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

Actually, that has been the biggest issue for me. People that have an agenda only tell the truth, or the truth they believe, about the other side. Their side only gets defense. It's rampant.

There is not one thing that I've posted in this thread that isn't the truth. You may not like it, but that's to be expected because it's not the version of the truth that you want to hear. If anything I've said in this thread is scary to you then you must not be able to handle, or completely deny, the truth of what I say.

If you don't realize how completely corrupt Fox News is then I'd say it a matter of you not recognizing the truth when you hear it and if you've read many of my posts over the last few weeks you know that I'm really not liberal.

Then why do you not say the same about MSNBC or Huffington post? They are equally skewed. You came here and bashed Fox (extremely biased) by using an article from Rachel Maddow (extremely biased) pulled from Huffington post (extremely biased). That's the scary part. You are using one side of the coin to bash the other. But by acting like Fox is the only culprit, it is equivalent to being dishonest. Point to the problem, not just the one part of the problem you choose to highlight.

[lights1961]

I truly think you are part of the problem. Your posts over the last few days/weeks are scary.

Only for people who can't handle the truth. And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

Actually, that has been the biggest issue for me. People that have an agenda only tell the truth, or the truth they believe, about the other side. Their side only gets defense. It's rampant.

There is not one thing that I've posted in this thread that isn't the truth. You may not like it, but that's to be expected because it's not the version of the truth that you want to hear. If anything I've said in this thread is scary to you then you must not be able to handle, or completely deny, the truth of what I say.

If you don't realize how completely corrupt Fox News is then I'd say it a matter of you not recognizing the truth when you hear it and if you've read many of my posts over the last few weeks you know that I'm really not liberal.

Then why do you not say the same about MSNBC or Huffington post? They are equally skewed. You came here and bashed Fox (extremely biased) by using an article from Rachel Maddow (extremely biased) pulled from Huffington post (extremely biased). That's the scary part. You are using one side of the coin to bash the other. But by acting like Fox is the only culprit, it is equivalent to being dishonest. Point to the problem, not just the one part of the problem you choose to highlight.

BINGO...

[conversationpc]

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

Mr. Myrmidon...Did you even bother to read my blog? I didn't defend Fox News and, in fact, mentioned Hannity and O'Reilly as being culpable along with Breitbart.

[conversationpc]

And by the way, I'm not liberal. I'm anti-wingnut.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Can you seriously say, especially with the news of the last few days about reporters trying to cover for the left, that Fox is the only one bending news? That is laughable and it shows exactly what I think the problem here is.

What news is this?

[Memorex]

Many stories about the Journolist - Leftist "journalists" (some of them writing for wires and other large news orgs, spewing tons of hate about the right. Directing bad news away from Obama, trumping up race claims against right, etc. It's not good for all the hard working journalists out there. I wish people could go back to reporting the actual news again. Daily Caller broke the news, I think.

http://dailycaller.com/

[The_Noble_Cause]

Many stories about the Journolist - Leftist "journalists" (some of them writing for wires and other large news orgs, spewing tons of hate about the right. Directing bad news away from Obama, trumping up race claims against right, etc. It's not good for all the hard working journalists out there. I wish people could go back to reporting the actual news again. Daily Caller broke the news, I think.

http://dailycaller.com/

You sure you're an independent? DailyCaller prides itself on being a conservative version of HuffingtonPost, and was created by none other than career right wing hack, Tucker Carlson. Not exactly the type of source I'd sling around while chiding others about their use of biased media. Tsk tsk.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So when Lott talked wa at Strong Thermon's at his birthday party a few years ago...and soundbites were used against him it was alright to destroy Lotts career... but here its not okay?

No comparison. Lott said he was proud to have voted for a man (Thurmond) whose central campaign platform was segregation. What part of that was misunderstood? Talk about doing dog-whistle color-coded politics with a bullhorn.
I agree Lott shouldn't have been forced to resign tho.

[treetopovskaya]

}:C))

[Memorex]

Many stories about the Journolist - Leftist "journalists" (some of them writing for wires and other large news orgs, spewing tons of hate about the right. Directing bad news away from Obama, trumping up race claims against right, etc. It's not good for all the hard working journalists out there. I wish people could go back to reporting the actual news again. Daily Caller broke the news, I think.

http://dailycaller.com/

You sure you're an independent? DailyCaller prides itself on being a conservative version of HuffingtonPost, and was created by none other than career right wing hack, Tucker Carlson. Not exactly the type of source I'd sling around while chiding others about their use of biased media. Tsk tsk.

I don't know what daily caller is - I just heard the story today and it said they are the ones that broke it. At any rate, in this case it doesn't matter who broke the story or reports it - it's all quotes from the listserve.

But it's funny you mention that. Since it is an obvious story. And since i do think it is important, I wonder if many left leaning sites will mention it. Just like Daily Caller probably doesn't mention half the stories on Huffington that make the right look bad.

[slucero]

Tree - I think this one is better...

[The_Noble_Cause]

But it's funny you mention that. Since it is an obvious story. And since i do think it is important, I wonder if many left leaning sites will mention it. Just like Daily Caller probably doesn't mention half the stories on Huffington that make the right look bad.

From what I have read, most lib sites have brushed the story off, saying that the listserve is comprised of openly liberal bloggers and NOT mainstream reporters. I'd like to see a full list of the journalists/bloggers who participated.

[Memorex]

But it's funny you mention that. Since it is an obvious story. And since i do think it is important, I wonder if many left leaning sites will mention it. Just like Daily Caller probably doesn't mention half the stories on Huffington that make the right look bad.

From what I have read, most lib sites have brushed the story off, saying that the listserve is comprised of openly liberal bloggers and NOT mainstream reporters. I'd like to see a full list of the journalists/bloggers who participated.

I recognized a couple names. I know at least one writes for the wires. But let's be honest, most journalists lean left and I have no issue with that at all. I also have no issue with someone leaning right. What I do not want is a journalist deciding what I get to read when i think I am reading a fair source. If I tune in Hannity or Maddow, I know what I am getting. When I want to be pissed at the right, I watch her. When I want to be pissed at the left, I watch him. But when I tune in to see non-opinionated news - I want it fair. And that simply no longer exists. Everything has to come with a comment or opinion or whatever.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But when I tune in to see non-opinionated news - I want it fair. And that simply no longer exists.

Reporters who try to report fairly, and straight down the line, like Tim Russert or Shep Smith, get hate mail calling them liberals anyway. I think the non-opinion people on CNN, FOX, and MSNBC still do a decent job.

[treetopovskaya]

Tree - I think this one is better...

nah... i like the first one. }:C)

[RedWingFan]

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

Mr. Myrmidon...Did you even bother to read my blog? I didn't defend Fox News and, in fact, mentioned Hannity and O'Reilly as being culpable along with Breitbart.

Culpable of what? Blowing the whistle on someone inside of an administration that used the term "your own kind" to someone of another race seeking their help? And having a room full of NAALCP laughing at it, after accusing the tea party of racism.
Would anyone here be so quick to defend a white person in the Bush administration if they'd said that? I know I wouldn't

[Rockindeano]

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

Mr. Myrmidon...Did you even bother to read my blog? I didn't defend Fox News and, in fact, mentioned Hannity and O'Reilly as being culpable along with Breitbart.

Culpable of what? Blowing the whistle on someone inside of an administration that used the term "your own kind" to someone of another race seeking their help? And having a room full of NAALCP laughing at it, after accusing the tea party of racism.
Would anyone here be so quick to defend a white person in the Bush administration if they'd said that? I know I wouldn't

I KNEW you would defend Breitbart and Fox. Unbelievable.

[Lula]

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

Mr. Myrmidon...Did you even bother to read my blog? I didn't defend Fox News and, in fact, mentioned Hannity and O'Reilly as being culpable along with Breitbart.

Culpable of what? Blowing the whistle on someone inside of an administration that used the term "your own kind" to someone of another race seeking their help? And having a room full of NAALCP laughing at it, after accusing the tea party of racism.
Would anyone here be so quick to defend a white person in the Bush administration if they'd said that? I know I wouldn't

you do realize she was not working for the ag dept at the time, it was non profit and she did help the farmer, realizing she was wrong in her initial reaction. hers is a story of redemption. did you even see the whole unchopped edited defamatory hack job version, the whole enchilada? you must not have to say what you have said.

[treetopovskaya]

if she was fired unfairly the only people to blame are those doing the firing.

since when does a cable news channel hold such power as to influence our gov??? if true THAT is effin scary.

maybe i'm missing something because i haven't been watching or listening. really don't need to... common sense tells me that our gov... shouldn't be getting it's info from the media. do their own research/homework.

lame.

[Rockindeano]

if she was fired unfairly the only people to blame are those doing the firing.

since when does a cable news channel hold such power as to influence our gov??? if true THAT is effin scary.

maybe i'm missing something because i haven't been watching or listening. really don't need to... common sense tells me that our gov... shouldn't be getting it's info from the media. do their own research/homework.

lame.

Very true indeed. Vilsack and the White House share the blame here. However, that doesn't excuse the shameless agenda driven scum of Breibart and Fox. They were all wrong, but this proves two things- 1, Fox News is indeed scum, and 2, Foc News is in Obama's (the White House) heads.

[RedWingFan]

This is why I don't take you or any other Fox follower seriously. You are all programmed, period. To defend this situation? Sickening.

Mr. Myrmidon...Did you even bother to read my blog? I didn't defend Fox News and, in fact, mentioned Hannity and O'Reilly as being culpable along with Breitbart.

Culpable of what? Blowing the whistle on someone inside of an administration that used the term "your own kind" to someone of another race seeking their help? And having a room full of NAALCP laughing at it, after accusing the tea party of racism.
Would anyone here be so quick to defend a white person in the Bush administration if they'd said that? I know I wouldn't

you do realize she was not working for the ag dept at the time, it was non profit and she did help the farmer, realizing she was wrong in her initial reaction. hers is a story of redemption. did you even see the whole unchopped edited defamatory hack job version, the whole enchilada? you must not have to say what you have said.

What I'm saying is that SHE is irrelevant to the situation this wasn't posted to get her fired. That was Obama trying to cover his ass.
It was posted to show the roomfull of NAALCP laughing at her discrimination before the happy ending. The ending is irrelevant. Do you understand that?