Angel wrote:donnaplease wrote:Exactly, Natalie! I know of NO circumstances where this would be necessary.
Nor can I.
donnaplease wrote:Another thing I read (which I had never known before) was that they give the mother large doses of anesthesia/analgesia prior to the PBA which in some cases kills the baby before it is partially born then murdered.
I have a feeling that was written by someone trying to make the procedure sound less brutal. You know kind of like "the baby gently falls asleep and doesn't wake up" Hell, we put moms under general anesthesia all the time and the babies survive it-you'd have to use enough anesthesia to kill the mom in order to kill the baby. I suppose the "upside" is that, as you said, the baby wouldn't feel the fatal stab wound.
donnaplease wrote:Hey, how would a woman's potential for having more children be at risk by having a previous child? As far as 'health' being at stake, ANY pregnancy is a health risk. The amount of extra work a woman's heart, lungs, kidneys, etc have to do is very taxing on her body. And of course there's always a risk of bleeding complications during the birth. I've always heard that abortions themselves can cause scarring that may impact the ability to get pregnant in the future, but IDK why you would kill one baby to ensure being able to have another one...
I can think of NO circumstance where the late term/partial birth abortion of one child would in anyway contribute to the favorable outcome of future children. You are correct-abortions, partial birth or early abortions carry risks.
Natalie, I have to admit, I know why you get pissed at Dan or even myself sometimes, when talking about subjects that you do indeeed know a great deal about, such as 'abortion' and 'health insurance.' However, the dissenting view is not wrong, just different, and the fact that I may not be a woman in the case of abortion, or a health insurer employee, does not take away my beliefs on what should or shouldn't be law(abortion) or enacted into law(health insurance). Having said that....
On this abortion issue that you and donna are so passionate about. Look, no one here applauds the fact that late term abortions happen...Hell, I don't think anyone applauds an abortion, period. However, it is the law of the land, one of those laws where you just have to deal with it, as it is a complex issue and entails the carrier(woman) and her own right to do as she chooses to her own body. To say Hillary doesn't know what she is talking about is absurd. She is a very articulate woman, rehearsed and studied in many situations and issues, and she spoke on this matter politically I believe; and she's right too. This is one of those issues that carry a lot of passionate beliefs on both sides, and I see your two POV's on this matter, but unfortunately for conservatives, , Roe v Wade will never change. There is no way that it would be overturned, as it would mean the end of the conservative movement as we know it. The country is largely in favor of the safety of Roe, although I believe against abortion per se. You don't want to go back decades, to where abortions were performed for 50 bucks with a close hanger in a downtown Los Angeles alley do you? It's a terrible situation to be sure, but better to be performed in a safe atmosphere of a professional hospital, don't you think?
Just like Artist4Perry, you should really come out and admit you're a conservative and stop with the "both sides are evil" crap.
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