President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Monker]

First, show me where ALL muslims have been categorized in any way.

The debate regarding the mosque brought out the fact that people like Newt think there is some kinda of 'cultural war' with Muslims and building the mosque equates to giving them a terrorist planning center in the US, that it is a 'victory' for Muslims, that if we allow then the terrorists win. I mean, come on, read the thread in this very forum and you can see some simply view ALL muslims as evil. Even on Larry King last week, somebody on Larry King started arguing that all people who are Islamic are terrorists.

The only group of people who are making this a racial issue are the liberals.

The FACT is that Beck called the President a racist. That is just the way it is.

Second, I was listening to a liberal radio station yesterday or today (it was either MSNBC or America Left) where the 'Beck calling Obama a racist' issue was raised. They made a point to show people that when given the opportunity to apologize, in fact Glenn Beck stated that he wanted to AMEND his comment, not apologize. They were offended that he did not apologize. So are you saying that they were wrong in their segment?

Whatever. If he doesn't want to cal it an apology, fine. That's just being nitpicky. The fact is that he said he has a big far mouth and should not have said it, that he regretted saying it. Call it whatever you want.

As for the Nazi and socialism comments, yep, he does talk about that stuff a lot. It's somewhat educational on one hand, and mind-numbingly annoying on the other. I agree he is very devisive.

Of course he is. And, he's a hypocrite for doing such a rally about unity.

It's funny that I said almost the exact same thing as you, except the 'he' that I was referring to was Barack Obama, and the 'people' he cares about are the democrats. Now I ask you, who has the bigger and more important responsibility to the American public?

You're wrong. Obama led the Democrats for how long trying to get health care passed? A year? How many things did they remove in compromise to get ANY Republican support? He even had the meeting to get both sides talking in a non-partisan way. So, yeah, calls Republicans out on things like the small business bill last week - because Republicans REFUSE to work with him and try to block ANYTHING from getting done...and refuse to compromise.

[The_Noble_Cause]

good speech last night...except, he should have kept the economy part out... this should have been 150% great job troops... but nope... couldnt be done. oh and the fact that he looked pained in talking about that we might have actually won... Since he talked about the surge failing just 2 and 1/2 short years ago... just saying..

What did we win again exactly? What a waste of blood and treasure.

[Monker]

The only people he truly wants to 'unite' are Republicans - not ALL Americans.

It's funny that I said almost the exact same thing as you, except the 'he' that I was referring to was Barack Obama, and the 'people' he cares about are the democrats. Now I ask you, who has the bigger and more important responsibility to the American public?

What crap. This President has pissed away all of his political clout trying to cut deals with the GOP on everything from the stimulus to healthcare. He has been in full blown appeasement mode since day one. The guy is a pussy imo. For this reason, he has lost his democratic base, not united them.

Yep...in fact, Democrats in general are acting like pussies. They don't want to fight for anything.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You're wrong. Obama led the Democrats for how long trying to get health care passed? A year? How many things did they remove in compromise to get ANY Republican support? He even had the meeting to get both sides talking in a non-partisan way. So, yeah, calls Republicans out on things like the small business bill last week - because Republicans REFUSE to work with him and try to block ANYTHING from getting done...and refuse to compromise.

Exactly.

[lights1961]

good speech last night...except, he should have kept the economy part out... this should have been 150% great job troops... but nope... couldnt be done. oh and the fact that he looked pained in talking about that we might have actually won... Since he talked about the surge failing just 2 and 1/2 short years ago... just saying..

What did we win again exactly? What a waste of blood and treasure.

dont think such short term... winning will be felt in generations to come...a new nation is what IRAQ's are winning... it will be a longhaul and difficult... process... but for the region as a whole in time will be amazing to witness during our lifetime, especially if
some good comes of the Isreal and Palistining talks...

[The_Noble_Cause]

dont think such short term... winning will be felt in generations to come...

We heard the same shit about Vietnam.

a new nation is what IRAQ's are winning... it will be a longhaul and difficult... process... but for the region as a whole in time will be amazing to witness during our lifetime, especially if some good comes of the Isreal and Palistining talks...

Our country's in a depression. The Iraqis are not a high priority.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

good speech last night...except, he should have kept the economy part out... this should have been 150% great job troops... but nope... couldnt be done. oh and the fact that he looked pained in talking about that we might have actually won... Since he talked about the surge failing just 2 and 1/2 short years ago... just saying..

What did we win again exactly? What a waste of blood and treasure.

dont think such short term... winning will be felt in generations to come...a new nation is what IRAQ's are winning... it will be a longhaul and difficult... process... but for the region as a whole in time will be amazing to witness during our lifetime, especially if
some good comes of the Isreal and Palistining talks...

I m wondering how many people missed the great big contradictory bit of economic nonsense in last nights speech

Obama said now that the war in Iraq is over, we now need to focus on building the ecomonmy- the subtext of which is "the war had a dire effect on our economy". But hang on a second- When we went to war, we shelled out big bucks to Bectel , Haliburton , Black Water for contractors Sodexho for food and catering services, General Dynamics , Lockeheed ,and a million other dod contractors for weapons and material, the VA spend millions on new hospital systems and programmes for veterals, paid a steady stream of folks piles of cash. And it supposedly employed lots of people doing it - With all that cash flowing there must have been a big Keynesian stimulus stoked up no?

Obviously not, so how does it follow that refocusing on rebuilding the economy through peace time Keynesian spending is gonna magically work.

We need some smart ass kid to yell out that the King is standing there with out a robe or undershorts on, so we can wake up to the obvious.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Im wondering how many people missed the great big contradictory bit of economic nonsense in last nights speech

Obama said now that the war in Iraq is over, we now need to focus on building the ecomonmy- the subtext of which is "the war had a dire effect on our economy". But hang on a second- When we went to war, we shelled out big bucks to Bectel , Haliburton , Black Water for contractors Sodexho for food and catering services, General Dynamics , Lockeheed ,and a million other dod contractors for weapons and material, the VA spend millions on new hospital systems and programmes for veterals, paid a steady stream of folks piles of cash. And it supposedly employed lots of people doing it - With all that cash flowing there must have been a big Keynesian stimulus stoked up no?

Obviously not, so how does it follow that refocusing on rebuilding the economy through peace time Keynesian spending is gonna magically work.

We need some smart ass kid to yell out that the King is standing there with out a robe or undershorts on, so we can wake up to the obvious.

I don't think the mobilization effort is remotely comparable. In WW2, nearly every sector of the economy was somehow committed to making munitions and supplies. Not just the obvious, like the auto-industry, but everything from silk and typewriter comanies too. By the end of WW2, the the US had a debt of 122% of GDP, large enough to stimulate the economy - or so the traditional Keynesian wisdom goes. My question is, with US military spending currently accounting for half of the US budget, at what point is enough enough? I don't know anyone who's looked at this, but Iraq probably did have some limited expansionary effect. I'd be interested to find out.

[ohsherrie]

Corporate patriotism at it's best:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/0 ... ml#s133348

A grim fact of the recession is that it pays to lay people off.
The CEOs who laid off the most employees during the recession are also the CEOs who took home the biggest pay checks, according to a study released last week.
CEOs of the 50 U.S. firms that slashed the most jobs between November 2008 and April 2010 took in 42 percent more than the average CEO at an S&P 500 firm, according to the 17th annual Executive Excess study by the Institute for Policy Studies, a progressive Washington think tank.
The study also found that 36 of the 50 layoff leaders "announced their mass layoffs at a time of positive earnings reports," suggesting a trend of "squeezing workers to boost profits and maintain high CEO pay."
The 10 "highest-paid CEO layoff leaders" ranked in the report include the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, Mark Hurd, who earned $24.2 million in 2009 as the company laid off 6,400 workers and Walmart CEO Michael Duke, who earned $19.2 million as the company laid off 13,350 workers. No Wall Street banks were included in this list, but three banks -- Citigroup, Bank Of America and JP Morgan -- showed up on the study's list of the 50 firms that laid off the most employees.
Overall, the study found that executive pay remains astronomically high compared to previous decades. "After adjusting for inflation, CEO pay in 2009 more than doubled the CEO pay average for the decade of the 1990s, more than quadrupled the CEO pay average for the 1980s, and ran approximately eight times the CEO average for all the decades of the mid-20th century," the study says. Currently, CEOs of major U.S. companies average 263 times the average compensation of American workers, the study claims.


Maybe we should start another war so the CEOs can get even richer. They're the only ones who benefit from war. Hell, if you kill off enough people maybe they'll have some jobs for the ones who are left without losing a penny of their millions.

[Monker]

good speech last night...except, he should have kept the economy part out... this should have been 150% great job troops... but nope... couldnt be done. oh and the fact that he looked pained in talking about that we might have actually won... Since he talked about the surge failing just 2 and 1/2 short years ago... just saying..

What did we win again exactly? What a waste of blood and treasure.

dont think such short term... winning will be felt in generations to come...a new nation is what IRAQ's are winning... it will be a longhaul and difficult... process... but for the region as a whole in time will be amazing to witness during our lifetime, especially if
some good comes of the Isreal and Palistining talks...

I simply do not believe this at all. Iraq is a country of Muslim fundamentalist factions, struggling for power. If they are allowed to have a true Democratic election, this country will not like the government that results...because it will be a government that more resembles Iran then anything we want. I believe Iraq is now going to be a country torn by war for decades to come...with Sunni and Shiite and throw in Al Qeada, and the lions and tigers and bears all wanting their share of power...or all of it. We are in the middle of that, trying to keep the peace and start a democracy that none of those involved really seem to WANT.

mini-Bush made Iraq out to have the potential of being this shining beacon of Democracy in the middle east. That's a fantasy that will never happen.

[donnaplease]

Listening to Chris Matthews this evening on my way home from work. He was actually criticizing BO for his repeated use of a teleprompter, and whoever he was on air with mentioned how when Obama was out on the campaign trail, speaking in front of 'stadium-sized' crowds, he was so dynamic and mesmerizing, but when it's just him in the oval office talking to the American people, he is stiff and unengaging. It further occurred to me that Barack Obama is not cut out to be a president. He is a campaigner - he is gifted in that area and I think it's what he loves to do. It has been his life's work really - because that's pretty much what I see a community organizer doing, rallying people in a shared cause, just like a political campaign. I personally don't believe he enjoys the every day work of being president and it's part of the reason he has sunk so far in his approval ratings.

[donnaplease]

Iraq is a country of Muslim fundamentalist factions, struggling for power.

Wait, are you saying that ALL Iraqi's are Muslim fundamentalists, because that might seem a little racist...

[ohsherrie]

http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entry/2266026/


"according to the Central Intelligence Agency (whose patriotism I hesitate to question), income distribution in the United States is more unequal than in Guyana, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and roughly on par with Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States. Economically speaking, the richest nation on earth is starting to resemble a banana republic. The main difference is that the United States is big enough to maintain geographic distance between the villa-dweller and the beggar."

[Saint John]

http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entry/2266026/


"according to the Central Intelligence Agency (whose patriotism I hesitate to question), income distribution in the United States is more unequal than in Guyana, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and roughly on par with Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States. Economically speaking, the richest nation on earth is starting to resemble a banana republic. The main difference is that the United States is big enough to maintain geographic distance between the villa-dweller and the beggar."

The bottom feeders of America, mainly because of decades of government dependence sponsored by the Democrats, are reproducing at a far greater pace than the rest of working, independent America. Because of that, the article you posted makes perfect sense to me. Shame on those people that have failed America and all of the opportunity it offers.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entry/2266026/


"according to the Central Intelligence Agency (whose patriotism I hesitate to question), income distribution in the United States is more unequal than in Guyana, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and roughly on par with Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States. Economically speaking, the richest nation on earth is starting to resemble a banana republic. The main difference is that the United States is big enough to maintain geographic distance between the villa-dweller and the beggar."

First of all this guy doesn't even get his facts straight, the GINI coefficient for Venezuela (UN figure) is higher than in US (greater in equality)As are MOST of the Latin American countries if you reference UN statistics.(and US figures are broadfly comparable to EU countries) Secondly, I wonder if he actually read the speech of Greenspans that he references, when notes a greater equality in some other measures of weath in the US, and also questions whether inequality should be a policy priority when in fact the general standard for all rises. (In equal or not, I think you find theres more money and weath in the US than their is in Guyana, and Ecquador. You hardly see folks beatind down doors to get across the border there.

I will tune in to this clowns article tomorrow. Interested in seeing what other half baked nonsence he churns out tomorrow.

[cejudonomas]

I think most of the problems in this nation are the fault of the US congress. All the other problems are the fault of an apathetic population. The US congress represent us and therefore WE MUST be involved in the political process. The US Congress works for you and me. It seems to me that Congress works to get re-elected and nothing else really matters to them. How are we gonna create jobs? wE HAVE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT! Well, did not Congress export our mnfg sector to third world countries by allowing Corporations the tax breaks to do so. Has NAFTA enriched the working class of Mexico? It appears the fat cats industrialists have profited greatly at the expense of people and allowed to pollute and violate health and saftely rules (that we would have in the USA). The drug war! We spend billions upon billions of dollars in a war against illegal drug use but the use of these drugs continue and we have allowed a criminal empire to grow so much that thedrug cartels now own land & building nad profit with legitimate business while maintaining the drug smuggling. Did we not learn anything when alcholic beverages were prohibited? It is time to repeal the Marijuana prohibition and decriminlaize drugs and treat drug addiction as a sickness and not as a criminal matter. If Marijuana becomes legal we can also use Hemp to springboard green industries using the "miracle plant", hemp to foster new industrial growth.

[Monker]

I think most of the problems in this nation are the fault of the US congress. All the other problems are the fault of an apathetic population.

True...and those who are 'involved' are more like pawns following whatever their party leaders say. They are not able to speak to the issues themselves...they would rather copy/paste words of other people, or throw together some insult towards the other side without having anything positive to offer. They know the buzzwords, factoids, and quotes...and they have their beliefs, but they don't know WHY they believe that and they can't argue and justify their position for themselves.

In other words, as a wise person once said, people are a problem.

[fredinator]

I think most of the problems in this nation are the fault of the US congress. All the other problems are the fault of an apathetic population. The US congress represent us and therefore WE MUST be involved in the political process. The US Congress works for you and me. It seems to me that Congress works to get re-elected and nothing else really matters to them. How are we gonna create jobs? wE HAVE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT! Well, did not Congress export our mnfg sector to third world countries by allowing Corporations the tax breaks to do so. Has NAFTA enriched the working class of Mexico? It appears the fat cats industrialists have profited greatly at the expense of people and allowed to pollute and violate health and saftely rules (that we would have in the USA). The drug war! We spend billions upon billions of dollars in a war against illegal drug use but the use of these drugs continue and we have allowed a criminal empire to grow so much that thedrug cartels now own land & building nad profit with legitimate business while maintaining the drug smuggling. Did we not learn anything when alcholic beverages were prohibited? It is time to repeal the Marijuana prohibition and decriminlaize drugs and treat drug addiction as a sickness and not as a criminal matter. If Marijuana becomes legal we can also use Hemp to springboard green industries using the "miracle plant", hemp to foster new industrial growth.

Dang, I agree with you 100% on this! The only real victims of the "drug war" are people like us. Tax them (drugs) and we will be in the black overnight, lol.

[SF-Dano]

Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program

Monday, September 13, 2010
By Matt Cover

The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.

The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011.

“NIH Announces the Availability of Recovery Act Funds for Competitive Revision Applications,” the grant abstract states. “We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa.”

Because AIDS researchers have been unsuccessful in convincing most adult African men to undergo circumcision, the UCLA study proposes to determine whether researchers can develop an after-sex genitalia-washing regimen that they can then convince uncircumcised African men to follow.

“The aim of the proposed feasibility study is to evaluate the feasibility and acceptability of a post-coital male genital hygiene procedure, which participants will be asked to practice immediately post-coitus or at least 12 hours after,” reads the abstract.

Entitled “Community-Based HIV VCT: South Africa,” the name of the broader umbrella project, the program plans to test how well received the penis-washing regimen is among South African men.

If most of the men in the study wash their genitals after sex, are willing to do so after the study ends, and report that their partners accept the regimen, the researchers will develop another study to see if the “penile cleansing procedure” actually works to prevent HIV infections.

“If we find that men are able to practice consistent washing practices after sex, we will plan to test whether this might protect men from becoming HIV infected in a later study,” the grant says.

The study’s lead investigator Dr. Thomas J. Coates was the fourth highest-funded researcher in the country in 2002 and is currently conducting HIV research on three continents.

The money aside. After almost 30yrs of AIDS/HIV research, they are only now studying the idea of penile hygene.

[slucero]

Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program

Monday, September 13, 2010
By Matt Cover

The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.

The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011.

“NIH Announces the Availability of Recovery Act Funds for Competitive Revision Applications,” the grant abstract states. “We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa.”

Because AIDS researchers have been unsuccessful in convincing most adult African men to undergo circumcision, the UCLA study proposes to determine whether researchers can develop an after-sex genitalia-washing regimen that they can then convince uncircumcised African men to follow.

“The aim of the proposed feasibility study is to evaluate the feasibility and acceptability of a post-coital male genital hygiene procedure, which participants will be asked to practice immediately post-coitus or at least 12 hours after,” reads the abstract.

Entitled “Community-Based HIV VCT: South Africa,” the name of the broader umbrella project, the program plans to test how well received the penis-washing regimen is among South African men.

If most of the men in the study wash their genitals after sex, are willing to do so after the study ends, and report that their partners accept the regimen, the researchers will develop another study to see if the “penile cleansing procedure” actually works to prevent HIV infections.

“If we find that men are able to practice consistent washing practices after sex, we will plan to test whether this might protect men from becoming HIV infected in a later study,” the grant says.

The study’s lead investigator Dr. Thomas J. Coates was the fourth highest-funded researcher in the country in 2002 and is currently conducting HIV research on three continents.

[whirlwind]

Washing After Sex May Raise H.I.V

By LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN
Published: August 21, 2007

A study in Uganda has come up with a surprising finding about sex and H.I.V. Washing the penis minutes after sex increased the risk of acquiring H.I.V. in uncircumcised men.

The sooner the washing, the greater the risk of becoming infected, the study found. Delaying washing for at least 10 minutes after sex significantly lowered the risk of H.I.V. infection, Dr. Fredrick E. Makumbi reported on July 25 at an International AIDS Society Conference in Sydney, Australia.

The researchers do not have a precise explanation for the findings, which challenge common wisdom and the teaching of many infectious disease experts who urge penile cleansing as part of good genital hygiene. Health experts have suggested that washing the penis after sex could prevent potentially infectious vaginal secretions from entering the body through the uncircumcised penis.

Washing the penis after sex is common in Africa. To determine whether washing could be recommended as an alternative to male circumcision, Dr. Makumbi’s team from the Makerere University Institute of Public Health studied 2,552 uncircumcised men in the Rakai district of Uganda.

The men, ages 15 to 49, were uncircumcised and not H.I.V. infected when they enrolled. Eighty-three percent said they washed with all sex partners.

The researchers asked about when and how the men washed after intercourse at enrollment and 6, 12 and 24 months later, including whether they washed with or without cloths.

Because of a slip-up, the researchers did not ask details of how the cleansing was done or directly about using soap, said Dr. Ronald H. Gray, a co-author from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Some soaps used in Africa are more irritating than those used elsewhere.

Men who washed within three minutes had a 2.3 percent risk of H.I.V. infection compared with 0.4 percent among those who delayed washing for 10 or more minutes. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases paid for the study.

The washing analysis was a secondary part of a study undertaken to determine the effectiveness of male circumcision against H.I.V. infection. Earlier reports had shown that circumcision was protective.

One message from the study, Dr. Gray said, “is that there ought to be a little time left for postcoital cuddling before you go and wash.”

“Don’t just finish and jump out of bed,” he said.

Dr. Makumbi and other AIDS experts said they did not know why the washing practice increased vulnerability to H.I.V. infection, but offered various explanations. One is that the acidity of vaginal secretions may impair the ability of the AIDS virus to survive on the penis. Delayed cleansing — and longer exposure to the vaginal secretions — may then reduce viral infectivity.

Another is that use of water, which has a neutral pH, may encourage viral survival and possible infectivity.

H.I.V. apparently needs to be in a fluid to cross the mucosa to infect cells, Dr. Gray said. If the H.I.V.-contaminated fluid dries, its infectivity may decrease. Adding water could resuspend H.I.V. to make it more infectious.

The study findings are counterintuitive, said Dr. Merle A. Sande, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Washington in Seattle, and “show why you have to do the studies, because until you do them, you just don’t know.”

Dr. Sande, who was not involved in the study, said, “There is still so much we don’t understand about the complex factors that influence H.I.V. transmission in the genital tract, but this important study will help.”

He also is president of the Academic Alliance Foundation, a group that trains health workers to treat AIDS and other infectious diseases in Ugand

[slucero]

One sure way to make sure you don't get HIV from having sex is... making sure you don't have sex with someone who has HIV...




(sending bill to government for $823,000)

[whirlwind]

Washing After Sex May Raise H.I.V

By LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN
Published: August 21, 2007

A study in Uganda has come up with a surprising finding about sex and H.I.V. Washing the penis minutes after sex increased the risk of acquiring H.I.V. in uncircumcised men.

Ill be damned. You can't make this shit up. [/quote'l


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Oh oh. Have you been washing?

[Monker]

Tea party-backed Christine O'Donnell wins GOP nod for Senate race in Delaware - AP
less than 10 seconds ago via web

Why is this a good thing? Everything I have read says this almost guarantees the Democrats will win against her.

[Monker]

Delaware primary: O'Donnell rolls over Castle

People are speaking....

No...Republicans primary voters 'spoke'....and that does not represent 'all' people.

[slucero]

it could mean that Independents who previously simply voted Republican voted Tea Party instead...

[Monker]

it could mean that Independents who previously simply voted Republican voted Tea Party instead...

I don't think Independents can vote in the primaries in DE. This is a demonstration that radical voices and opinions have taken over the Republican party. I said this months ago in this thread. The Tea Party is making the Republican party WEAKER in the long run. The Republicans may take over the House...but it's more due to a general hatred for congress and incumbents in general...But, in the long run, purifying the Republican party to exclude any moderate voices is going to make them the minority party for decades to come.

[lights1961]

Todays headlines...


'Tea party' favorites score in DE, NY, NH...
Establishment Freaks...
'One nation under revolt'...
Christine Smacks Rove: 'So-Called Political Guru'...
Upsets...
RESULTS...
WIRE...
IN: RANGEL SURVIVES CHALLENGE...
OUT: DC MAYOR VOTED DOWN IN UPSET...
HANGING: DINGELL WARNS DONORS HE COULD LOSE...
Dems gamble by shifting fire to Boehner...
Bill Clinton: New-look GOP makes Bush look liberal!
POLL: Only 25% of public trusts gov't...
The Crash, Obama and Disappearing Dem Majority...

LMAO at that one,

tea party movement reminds me of 1994... with Gingrich and the contract with America, which eventually got us the Welfare reform bill passed... but I am still not convinced that the congress will be taken over by the GOP in two months...






I love the smell of political napalm on the morning after election days.

[S2M]

The most important issue facing America is there is STILL taxation without representation. Until things change this country is shit. Republican or Democrat. Each side can't wait for the other one to fail, then they get in and do NO better. Here's a novel idea: Listen to the people. Constituents are your bread and butter. WE have voting power.

[lights1961]

The most important issue facing America is there is STILL taxation without representation. Until things change this country is shit. Republican or Democrat. Each side can't wait for the other one to fail, then they get in and do NO better. Here's a novel idea: Listen to the people. Constituents are your bread and butter. WE have voting power.

this is why the tea party is working...