President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[S2M]

And now we hear that this stunt with Colbert on Capital Hill cost us taxpayers close to $125,000 dollars.

Good fucking grief....hope someone learned to wash their genitals at least.

Such a good republican. Always worried about money. Here's a number for you: 4287. I worry about lives lost. And that's how many americans have died in Iraq....a war, mind you, started by a Republican Administration.....

[gr8dane]

And now we hear that this stunt with Colbert on Capital Hill cost us taxpayers close to $125,000 dollars.

Good fucking grief....hope someone learned to wash their genitals at least.

Such a good republican. Always worried about money. Here's a number for you: 4287. I worry about lives lost. And that's how many americans have died in Iraq....a war, mind you, started by a Republican Administration.....

Talking about money,how much has that war cost so far?

[RedWingFan]

And now we hear that this stunt with Colbert on Capital Hill cost us taxpayers close to $125,000 dollars.

Good fucking grief....hope someone learned to wash their genitals at least.

Such a good republican. Always worried about money. Here's a number for you: 4287. I worry about lives lost. And that's how many americans have died in Iraq....a war, mind you, started by a Republican Administration.....

4287? Is that the # of Bush's successful Iraq war, or the clusterfuck Obama is running in Afghanistan? You know the one Obama said was important.

Worried about money? Was it the "good republicans" howling about how much the wars were costing?

[Monker]

And now we hear that this stunt with Colbert on Capital Hill cost us taxpayers close to $125,000 dollars.

Good fucking grief....hope someone learned to wash their genitals at least.

And, do you have any idea how this total was calculated?

It is complete BS. Take that same calculation and tell how much time the bullshit filibusters have cost taxpayers this year...caused by the Republicans in congress.

[Monker]

And now we hear that this stunt with Colbert on Capital Hill cost us taxpayers close to $125,000 dollars.

Good fucking grief....hope someone learned to wash their genitals at least.

Why the fucking US vs. Them mentality? Is it so important to run in here like a little girl and tattle on the Dems? Nobody can run this country. Nobody...but if it makes you feel like the BMOC to pick sides, then have at it....you really aren't part of the solution. You are part of the perpetuality.

What is your problem with regards to the days news? If I paraphrase it I'm part of the perpetuality, If I'd have C&P'd it you'd lambaste me for that. What the hell! This thread is about the Term of The Won and I'm sticking to subject while sticking this coming November up a few libs here's asses. You're trying to kill the messenger (me), when that news came from (I believe} CBS Radio, any frothing for them or just for me for bringing it here? It weren't my news dude, I just shared it.

And BTW, it is an Us v Them mentality, I didn't start it but I'll damn sure pick my side and defend it no matter what anyone says or thinks. Do you feel like a BMOC when you pick sides for the NFL games and are right? Politics is the one thing I like better than football for my recreation and I follow it closly.

No remorse from me for sharing a news article, if the libs had one you know damn good and well their welcome to post it and I'd never lambaste them for posting it, never have. I'll debate it or shut up, or worst case question the source. I've never understood this net mentality of attacking someone just because they may have shared bad news you didn't like. I fucking read news every damned day that I don't like but I don't spend one ounce of energy writing to the AP or USA Today telling them they are part of the problem. This may be some people heres only chance to have heard that news since I know that most people don't follow like some of us do. I think that can be a good thing.

The problem is that you have no thoughts that you express that are your own. They are all copy/paste from somebody else. You contribute NOTHING but what others says...and most of the time it is out of context, exaggerated, or simply wrong.

In this case it is the misinformation about Colbert testifying before congress and some whiner Republican Senator saying how it wastes taxpayer's money. He says this by some made up calcuation of taking each Senator's pay and turning into an hourly salary and multiplying by the time he spent before.

This is BULLSHIT for these reasons.

1. Colbert WAS NOT PAID to testify. This is what you are implying with your out of context post.

2. The calculation itself is bullshit. When a person is paid a salary, it does not matter what hours they work - that is what they are paid. If you took Colbert's time back (a whole six minutes - wow) the Senate would still receive the same pay.

3. Most importantly...The time was set aside by the Senate to discuss the issue - not specificaly for Colbert. Therefore, Colbert's time cost NOTHING.

Go find yourself some other issue to rant about...because this one makes you look like a complete idiot.

[gr8dane]

Afghanistan


$336,004,499,200


Three hundred thirty six billion to date.

Well,with both Iraq and Afghanistan,that's a lot of dough.
That's a lot of healthcare and schooling and what not that had could have been spent on Americans.Oh well.

[portland]

I usually stay out of this BS.....but


I had a meeting yesterday on our upcoming years "benefits"

Health insurance is increasing 14%

Dental 5%

and our raises are at .5, 1 and 1.5 percent.


We laid off 6 people.....we don't layoff.....it's the first time in way too many years to count.


There is no way to look at it the economy is in the shitter....I don't care who fixes it..someone needs to!!

OH YEAH the 14% comes from the 26 year old rule (thanks to the health care reform!!) and the no cap on a lifetime bill....ugh!!

[conversationpc]

3. Most importantly...The time was set aside by the Senate to discuss the issue - not specificaly for Colbert. Therefore, Colbert's time cost NOTHING.

I'm calling BS on this one...Any time Congress spends in session costs something. They could have at least gotten something useful out if instead of creating a circus. At least Conyers had the stones to ask the dolt to leave.

[Monker]

3. Most importantly...The time was set aside by the Senate to discuss the issue - not specificaly for Colbert. Therefore, Colbert's time cost NOTHING.

I'm calling BS on this one...Any time Congress spends in session costs something. They could have at least gotten something useful out if instead of creating a circus. At least Conyers had the stones to ask the dolt to leave.

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

[Monker]

3. Most importantly...The time was set aside by the Senate to discuss the issue - not specificaly for Colbert. Therefore, Colbert's time cost NOTHING.

I'm calling BS on this one...Any time Congress spends in session costs something. They could have at least gotten something useful out if instead of creating a circus. At least Conyers had the stones to ask the dolt to leave.

It cost $50k at least to even turn the lights on in that room.

So? What does that have to do with Colbert? The lights would be turned on for somebody else to use his six minutes. You have no valid argument here.

[conversationpc]

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

I never said he was paid and there's nothing to get over other than our government, once again, wasting time when they could've actually had someone up there who knew what the hell they were talking about. You're right, it is bullshit. Yet another example of how our government not only wastes our money but the time we pay them for as well.

[RocknRoll]

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

I never said he was paid and there's nothing to get over other than our government, once again, wasting time when they could've actually had someone up there who knew what the hell they were talking about. You're right, it is bullshit. Yet another example of how our government not only wastes our money but the time we pay them for as well.

I agree!! What a waste of the time and expenses for a congressional hearing. (Shouldn't they be working on the serious issues involving our economy?) The big question is are we turning our government into a system that depends on pop culture? I'm not really sure what I feel the issue is, but I just see some unsettling things. Colbet, The View.

[S2M]

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

I never said he was paid and there's nothing to get over other than our government, once again, wasting time when they could've actually had someone up there who knew what the hell they were talking about. You're right, it is bullshit. Yet another example of how our government not only wastes our money but the time we pay them for as well.

I agree!! What a waste of the time and expenses for a congressional hearing. (Shouldn't they be working on the serious issues involving our economy?) The big question is are we turning our government into a system that depends on pop culture? I'm not really sure what I feel the issue is, but I just see some unsettling things. Colbet, The View.

Colbert/Stewart a ticket I would vote for.....these guys could do a better job than the jackenapes we got milling around in washington at the moment....throw Maher in there too....In fact, Maher for President!

[Monker]

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

I never said he was paid and there's nothing to get over other than our government, once again, wasting time when they could've actually had someone up there who knew what the hell they were talking about. You're right, it is bullshit. Yet another example of how our government not only wastes our money but the time we pay them for as well.

So, now you are saying they are 'wasting time'. Thank you for changing the argument from 'wasting tax payer's money' because that is absolutely bullshit.

But, you are still wrong. You say he doesn't know what he is talking about. He actually spent time doing the work of a migrant farm worker. So, yes, he does have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what he was talking about...and you are ignorant about what you are talking about.

[Monker]

Again, irrelevant. The session was scheduled whether Colbert was there or not. So, yeah, it cost 'something'...but not for Colbert, and not $150,000 just for his six minutes. That's bullshit.

Colbert's time cost nothing. He was not paid. The time, and the cost of the session itself, was being spent regardless of his appearance. Colbert cost taxpayers NOTHING. Get over it.

I never said he was paid and there's nothing to get over other than our government, once again, wasting time when they could've actually had someone up there who knew what the hell they were talking about. You're right, it is bullshit. Yet another example of how our government not only wastes our money but the time we pay them for as well.

I agree!! What a waste of the time and expenses for a congressional hearing. (Shouldn't they be working on the serious issues involving our economy?)

LOL. How much of a section of our economy do you think agriculture is? This issue has a LOT to do with our economy.

Ignorance must be bliss with you people.

[Monker]

Latest Bill Maher clip of that crazy Republican witch of a senate candidate.

Only have the FB link...

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 5847829984

Love this:

"There are a lot of questions now about her use of campaign funds and not paying her taxes and not paying her mortgage. And on top of that, some asshole outed her as a witch." -- Bill Maher.

LOL...too funny.

[slucero]

not unlike the witch we have as Speaker of the House...

[conversationpc]

So, now you are saying they are 'wasting time'. Thank you for changing the argument from 'wasting tax payer's money' because that is absolutely bullshit.

You are such a moron. It was a waste of time AND a waste of money. From my original quote on this subject...

Any time Congress spends in session costs something.

Doesn't sound like I changed the argument at all, does it? How can one person be so right on Journey-related matters and so wrong on everything else?

[Monker]

So, now you are saying they are 'wasting time'. Thank you for changing the argument from 'wasting tax payer's money' because that is absolutely bullshit.

You are such a moron. It was a waste of time AND a waste of money. From my original quote on this subject...

Any time Congress spends in session costs something.

Doesn't sound like I changed the argument at all, does it? How can one person be so right on Journey-related matters and so wrong on everything else?

Sorry, but YOU are the moron. The time and money was spent regardless of Colbert. The entire six minutes was already booked for the Senate to sit there regardless of who spoke. The money was already set to be spent. Colbert cost the taxpayers NOTHING.

The only reason you are whining is because some senator was offended and whined about it. Otherwise, this would never have been an issue at all.

[Monker]

not unlike the witch we have as Speaker of the House...

Really? There is a clip where Pelosi asmitted to "dabbling in witchcraft?"

Please post the link!

It's the Republicans who seem to have a thing for Christian fundamentalist wiccans.

[conversationpc]

Sorry, but YOU are the moron. The time and money was spent regardless of Colbert. The entire six minutes was already booked for the Senate to sit there regardless of who spoke. The money was already set to be spent. Colbert cost the taxpayers NOTHING.

The only reason you are whining is because some senator was offended and whined about it. Otherwise, this would never have been an issue at all.

If this was Glenn Beck or some conservative talk show host, all you lefties would be whining about it, too, so don't give me that garbage.

I know it's hard to people like you with short attention spans but pay attention...The time WAS wasted because they could've actually had someone there that had some actual credibility. Colbert only used it to further his career. For the record, I think he's kinda funny so I don't dislike him personally. However, Congress could've made far better use of their time if they'd actually used some brain power and gotten someone who knew what the hell they were talking about.

BTW...Here's a link to the article I wrote yesterday on this topic. Note the first response I got, which was from a flaming liberal and a personal friend. http://davesdominion.wordpress.com/2010 ... tage-left/

[Monker]

Sorry, but YOU are the moron. The time and money was spent regardless of Colbert. The entire six minutes was already booked for the Senate to sit there regardless of who spoke. The money was already set to be spent. Colbert cost the taxpayers NOTHING.

The only reason you are whining is because some senator was offended and whined about it. Otherwise, this would never have been an issue at all.

If this was Glenn Beck or some conservative talk show host, all you lefties would be whining about it, too, so don't give me that garbage.

I doubt I would be saying anything.

I know it's hard to people like you with short attention spans but pay attention...The time WAS wasted because they could've actually had someone there that had some actual credibility.

LOL. This thread of conversation started with this being a waste of $150,000 of taxpayer money...which is simply untrue - a LIE.

Then it moved into a waste of time because Colbert could not speak to the subject...which is a VERY ignorant statement and only shows how little you know about the subject.

Now you say Colbert has no credibility.

Yeah, he spoke 'in character' and made some funny quips. He made fun of Republicans and Democrats alike...even saying Democrats may want to keep these jobs for US citizens because he heard a lot of them may be looking for work in November. But, he also made some very solid points at the end that spoke directly to the issue of migrant farm workers, illegals, and how it affects agri-business in general. You, of course, ignore that.

Colbert only used it to further his career

LOL. I don't think that's true at all. It doesn't 'further his career' in any way.

What it does do is draw attention to the issue and puts it more in the public eye to open up debate on the subject. I'm absolutely certain THAT is why he was asked to testify...and it worked - we're talking about it.

However, Congress could've made far better use of their time if they'd actually used some brain power and gotten someone who knew what the hell they were talking about.

He DOES know what he is talking about. I don't think YOU know what you are talking about. Have you spent any time working with, or talking directly to, migrant farm workers? I didn't think so...but Colbert did.

[Monker]

He actually spent time doing the work of a migrant farm worker. So, yes, he does have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what he was talking about

10 hours in the field is hardly first hand knowledge.

ROTFL! That is 10hrs more then anybody on this forum has spent, and probably 10hrs more then any member of congress! It is so first hand knowledge. You are such an ass!

[G.I.Jim]

He actually spent time doing the work of a migrant farm worker. So, yes, he does have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what he was talking about

10 hours in the field is hardly first hand knowledge.

ROTFL! That is 10hrs more then anybody on this forum has spent, and probably 10hrs more then any member of congress! It is so first hand knowledge. You are such an ass!

So you speak for everyone on the forum now? I worked for YEARS on farms. Guess I just imagined that.

[G.I.Jim]

He actually spent time doing the work of a migrant farm worker. So, yes, he does have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what he was talking about

10 hours in the field is hardly first hand knowledge.

ROTFL! That is 10hrs more then anybody on this forum has spent, and probably 10hrs more then any member of congress! It is so first hand knowledge. You are such an ass!

So you speak for everyone on the forum now? I worked for YEARS on farms. Guess I just imagined that.

You ass!

?

[conversationpc]

If this was Glenn Beck or some conservative talk show host, all you lefties would be whining about it, too, so don't give me that garbage.

I doubt I would be saying anything.

Then it moved into a waste of time because Colbert could not speak to the subject...which is a VERY ignorant statement and only shows how little you know about the subject.

ONE day makes him an expert, huh? I'm sure they could've easily found HUNDREDS of other folks with far more firsthand knowledge of the subject than someone who no one takes seriously in the first place.

Yeah, he spoke 'in character' and made some funny quips. He made fun of Republicans and Democrats alike...even saying Democrats may want to keep these jobs for US citizens because he heard a lot of them may be looking for work in November.

So making fun of Democrats makes him somehow more credible?

LOL. I don't think that's true at all. It doesn't 'further his career' in any way.

Even bad publicity is good publicity, right?

What it does do is draw attention to the issue and puts it more in the public eye to open up debate on the subject. I'm absolutely certain THAT is why he was asked to testify...and it worked - we're talking about it.

We'd still be talking about it regardless of who testified. This issue has been in the public eye for several years now. No one thinks any different nor takes the subject any more seriously because of Colbert's "expert" testimony.

He DOES know what he is talking about. I don't think YOU know what you are talking about. Have you spent any time working with, or talking directly to, migrant farm workers? I didn't think so...but Colbert did.

Nope and I wouldn't claim to be an expert, either.

[conversationpc]

ROTFL! That is 10hrs more then anybody on this forum has spent, and probably 10hrs more then any member of congress! It is so first hand knowledge. You are such an ass!

Well this ass has spent hundreds of hours working the fields of my family's farm, not as a migrant but as a hard working American. 10 hours can't teach you shit about farming, migrant or not.

[treetopovskaya]

we all can be farmers thanks to facebook! }:CPP

[The_Noble_Cause]

Beltway establishment types also blew a gasket when Colbert hosted the White House press corps dinner. His take-no-prisoners style was condemned as "direspectful" and being "beneath the dignity of the nation's capitol" blah..blah..blah. The more types like him who skewer Congress through humor, the better. And NO, Glenn Beck is not remotely comparable. Colbert is actually funny and not a radio dj/revissionist history teacher/televengelist/aspiring end-of-times cult leader.

[strangegrey]

Wow..didn't hear about this on the news..

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's six-night visit to NYC included a secret sit-down with militant minister Louis Farrakhan, the New York Post reported Sunday.

The president shared a hush-hush meal with Farrakhan and members of the New Black Panther Party Tuesday at the Warwick Hotel on West 54th Street.

The meeting took place during Ahmadinejad's stay in NYC to address the U.N. General Assembly. He met Farrakhan, the fiery 77-year-old leader of The Nation of Islam, in the Warwick Hotel's banquet hall.

And that surprises you?

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama gave Mahmoud a bundt cake for his 9/11 comments at the UN. Those two share such a deep resentment for the US.