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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:58 am

Fact Finder wrote:Sure they can, and it shows their bias to the left...far left politics. Williams gets canned for speaking truth to power about Muslims yet Nina Totenberg get high fives all around for her offensive remarks. I think she even still works at NPR.


Totenberg didn't get high fives. That quote was made nearly two decades ago. Nobody even noticed - largely because that was pre-YouTube and pre-FOX News. Who was keeping watch to land her ass in hot water? And NPR is not far left. A conservative is always countered by a liberal, and vice-a-versa. NPR actually tries, and mostly succeeds, in living up to Fox's Orwellian 'Fair and Balanced' slogan. Funny, most leftists call it "National Pentagon Radio" and have done so for years.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:05 am

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Fact Finder wrote:Sure they can, and it shows their bias to the left...far left politics. Williams gets canned for speaking truth to power about Muslims yet Nina Totenberg get high fives all around for her offensive remarks. I think she even still works at NPR.


Totenberg didn't get high fives. That quote was made nearly two decades ago. Nobody even noticed, largely because that was pre-YouTube and pre-FOX News. Who was keeping watch to land her ass in hot water? And NPR is not far left. A conservative is always countered by a liberal, and vice-a-versa. NPR actually tries, and mostly succeeds, in living up to Fox's Orwellian 'Fair and Balanced' slogan.

LOL...what complete and utter bullshit. NPR is about as fair and balanced as a show consisting of you, Dean and 7Syringes would be.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:13 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:LOL...what complete and utter bullshit. NPR is about as fair and balanced as a show consisting of you, Dean and 7Syringes would be.


I defy you to give me an example of political bias in either NPR's Morning Edition or All Things Considered newscasts. They are not opinioncasts like Limbaugh and Co. They report straight down the line and offers views from politicians of all stripes. Exactly like Jim Lehrer, Shep Smith, or any of the evening newscasts on the major networks. Just a few posts up you were condemning the Associated Press, of all things, as a bastion of liberal thought. Seems you hate any attempt by our fourth estate to inform the masses. Gotta keep 'em dumb so they vote Repub, right? Nonpartisan watchdog groups, like Factcheck and Politifact, regularly cite the worst truth abusers in the media. NPR, to my knowledge, has never made the list. FOX’s evening lineup on the other hand…
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:08 am

="RedWingFan]Stu, I think I may like your nickname better than the "7 braincells" I came up with! :x :lol:


First of all, I'll stack up my accuracy against yours any day of the week, as well as my intellect, insightfulness, and reasoning capacity. Secondly, as someone who does what I do for a living - and who doesn't even drink protein shakes - I consider being accused of using steroids to be a compliment.

So, dimwit, when are you going to address any of the ISSUES? You can't, because your only sources are massively ultra-conservative wingnut blog posts. With respect to global warming, it's your opinion versus mine and the 98% of the scientific community qualified to make any assertions about global warming. So, please englighten me, yonder clod.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:09 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:LOL...what complete and utter bullshit. NPR is about as fair and balanced as a show consisting of you, Dean and 7Syringes would be.


I defy you to give me an example of political bias in either NPR's Morning Edition or All Things Considered newscasts. They are not opinioncasts like Limbaugh and Co. They report straight down the line and offers views from politicians of all stripes. Exactly like Jim Lehrer, Shep Smith, or any of the evening newscasts on the major networks. Just a few posts up you were condemning the Associated Press, of all things, as a bastion of liberal thought. Seems you hate any attempt by our fourth estate to inform the masses. Gotta keep 'em dumb so they vote Repub, right? Nonpartisan watchdog groups, like Factcheck and Politifact, regularly cite the worst truth abusers in the media. NPR, to my knowledge, has never made the list. FOX’s evening lineup on the other hand…


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Postby Lula » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:26 am

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Defund NPR in the next Congress and PBS as well....cut them off at the fucking knees once and for all. Then the NEA, Dept. of Energy and Dept. of Education for starters....and of course Healthcare. Cut cut cut.


complete insanity. pbs has great programs, just look at the science and children's shows alone. but why would i think a staunch conservative would ever support anything for the public? maybe all the conservatives should have their own little section to live without any bothersome government...hmmm, maybe some of that great land the native americans received :roll:
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:00 am

Seven Wishes wrote:First of all, I'll stack up my accuracy against yours any day of the week, as well as my intellect, insightfulness, and reasoning capacity. Secondly, as someone who does what I do for a living - and who doesn't even drink protein shakes - I consider being accused of using steroids to be a compliment.


If Monker can call me Stuie, I can call you Steroid head! You've earned it...you might not use them...but your brain sure acts like it!

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So, dimwit, when are you going to address any of the ISSUES? You can't, because your only sources are massively ultra-conservative wingnut blog posts. With respect to global warming, it's your opinion versus mine and the 98% of the scientific community qualified to make any assertions about global warming. So, please englighten me, yonder clod.


As opposed to your ultra-left leaning wingnut blog posts?
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:44 am

Seven Wishes wrote:First of all, I'll stack up my accuracy against yours any day of the week, as well as my intellect, insightfulness, and reasoning capacity.

Don't forget your outstanding writing ability! :lol: :lol: :lol: Fraud!!! :lol: :lol:
7 Wishes wrote:Politicians in the nation's capital have been reluctant to set limits on the carbon dioxide pollution that is expected to warm the planet by 4 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit during the next century, citing uncertainty about the severity of the threat. But that uncertainty may have shrunk somewhat with the release last week of two scientific reports suggesting that global warming is not just a hypothetical possibility, but a real phenomenon that has already started transforming especially sensitive parts of the globe.

Overall, the reports say, Earth's climate has warmed by about 1 degree Fahrenheit since 1900. In the Arctic, where a number of processes amplify the warming effects of carbon dioxide, most regions have experienced a temperature rise of 4 to 7 degrees in the last 50 years.

That warmth has reduced the amount of snow that falls every winter, melted away mountain glaciers and shrunk the Arctic Ocean's summer sea ice cover to its smallest extent in millennia, according to satellite measurements. Swaths of Alaskan permafrost are thawing into soggy bogs, and trees are moving northward at the expense of the tundra that rings the Arctic Ocean.

These changes seriously threaten animals such as polar bears, which live and hunt on the sea ice. The bears have already suffered a 15 percent decrease in their number of offspring and a similar decline in weight over the past 25 years. If the Arctic sea ice disappears altogether during the summer months, as some researchers expect it will by the end of the century, polar bears have little chance of survival.

Things are less serious in the lower 48, where the effects of climate change have been more subtle. In much of the United States, spring arrives about two weeks earlier than it did 50 years ago. Tropical bird species have appeared in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Species such as Edith's checkerspot, a butterfly native to western North America, have started dying out at the southern reaches of their ranges.

"Responses to climate change are being seen across the U.S.A," said Camille Parmesan, a biologist at the University of Texas in Austin. She is the co-author, with Hector Galbraith of the University of Colorado in Boulder, of "Observed Impacts of Global Climate Change in the U.S." The report was released Tuesday by the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, a non-partisan but not disinterested research organization dedicated to providing sound scientific information about global warming.

Parmesan and Galbraith acknowledge that nothing in the report would strike the average person as particularly alarming. They also allow that some of the past century's warming might have happened even if humans hadn't been pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. But they argue that the changes they describe should be taken as a "very clear signal" that climate change will have significant effects in coming decades.

"The canaries in the coalmine are squawking, and we should absolutely take that seriously," Galbraith said.

The Bush administration has argued that not enough is known about climate change to justify major efforts at forestalling or preventing future warming.

The Arctic report, released Monday, was commissioned by the Arctic Council, an international commission of eight countries, including the United States, and six indigenous groups. It was written by a team of 300 scientists.

"The report will be a valuable contribution to the literature on potential regional impacts of climate change, and the United States government will take its findings into account as it continues to review the science," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said in a statement released Tuesday.

The United States faces a potential showdown with other members of the Arctic Council on Nov. 24, when representatives of the organization's members are scheduled to meet in Iceland to consider climate change policy recommendations.

The atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide has risen from 280 parts per million in 1800 to 380 parts per million today due to the combustion of fossil fuels. Carbon dioxide causes warming because it heats up more when exposed to sunlight compared to other atmospheric gases.

Scientists have always expected the Arctic to respond earlier and more intensely than other regions to the buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, thanks to several phenomena that make the far north especially sensitive to climate perturbations. When warmer temperatures melt snow, for example, the bare ground that is exposed absorbs more heat than the white surface did, causing yet more warming. A similar thing happens when sea ice melts, exposing open water.

In the past three Septembers the Arctic sea ice has melted back 12 percent to 15 percent beyond its normal minimum extent.

"It almost suggests that maybe we're about to reach a threshold beyond which the sea ice may not be able to recover," said Mark Serreze of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo.

Ice in the interior of the Arctic pack normally remains frozen from year to year, growing thicker with each season. But the recent increase in melting has eaten into much of that multi-year ice. So while the Arctic Ocean still freezes over each winter, more of the solid cover now consists of thin single-year ice that melts every spring.

The Arctic is also particularly sensitive to warming because its plants and soil hold less water than more temperate environments. That means more energy reaching the ground is dedicated to heating the surface instead of evaporating water.

The atmosphere is thinner in the Arctic than it is farther south, which also intensifies warming. And while temperate zones shed some of their extra heat by shipping it north in ocean currents and meteorological fronts, the Arctic is the end of the line in that respect.

A small minority of scientists remains unconvinced that increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide can be held responsible for the recent warming, arguing that natural variability explains most if not all of the trend.

"It's very complicated and I believe people who claim they understand ... are just overestimating drastically their ability to do science," said Petr Chylek of the Los Alamos National Laboratory.

Scientists aren't the only ones who have noticed the Arctic warming trend. Inuit hunters in Canada and Saami reindeer herders in Finland have detected shifts in the migratory behavior of animals. In some cases, people whose elders taught them decades ago how to forecast storms from wind patterns and cloud formations have lost their predictive abilities to new weather patterns.

"One of the unique things about Arctic communities is how much they're tied to the land, and that's why this is such a big deal for them," said Harvard University geographer Shari Fox Gearheard.

Farther south, where the changes have been far less extreme and most people live far removed from the subtleties of their climate, a warmer world remains a hypothetical realm of scientists and environmentalists. But the latest reports suggest that in some of the world's more populated places, astute observers may soon begin to noticing that the climate is changing.
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:53 am

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Seven Wishes wrote:First of all, I'll stack up my accuracy against yours any day of the week, as well as my intellect, insightfulness, and reasoning capacity. Secondly, as someone who does what I do for a living - and who doesn't even drink protein shakes - I consider being accused of using steroids to be a compliment.


If Monker can call me Stuie, I can call you Steroid head! You've earned it...you might not use them...but your brain sure acts like it!

Seven Wishes wrote:
So, dimwit, when are you going to address any of the ISSUES? You can't, because your only sources are massively ultra-conservative wingnut blog posts. With respect to global warming, it's your opinion versus mine and the 98% of the scientific community qualified to make any assertions about global warming. So, please englighten me, yonder clod.


As opposed to your ultra-left leaning wingnut blog posts?


Yeah, well, Stuie, you should stop using Vagisil...that short term memory loss may become permanent.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:55 am

Monker wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:First of all, I'll stack up my accuracy against yours any day of the week, as well as my intellect, insightfulness, and reasoning capacity. Secondly, as someone who does what I do for a living - and who doesn't even drink protein shakes - I consider being accused of using steroids to be a compliment.


If Monker can call me Stuie, I can call you Steroid head! You've earned it...you might not use them...but your brain sure acts like it!

Seven Wishes wrote:
So, dimwit, when are you going to address any of the ISSUES? You can't, because your only sources are massively ultra-conservative wingnut blog posts. With respect to global warming, it's your opinion versus mine and the 98% of the scientific community qualified to make any assertions about global warming. So, please englighten me, yonder clod.


As opposed to your ultra-left leaning wingnut blog posts?


Yeah, well, Stuie, you should stop using Vagisil...that short term memory loss may become permanent.


The only time I get near Vagisil is when I get it on my pecker when I am plowing your wife in the keister and it drips on the pull out...only did that once though...she's not that good... :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can dish it out...can you take it?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:28 am

Fact Finder wrote:Ememies huh,....... :evil:


Yup. Whenever a political party openly roots for a president's failure, it's bad enough. To do so at the start of a term and in the face of two wars and a great depression, it's borderline treasonous. You guys ceased being "our friends across the aisle" a long time ago.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:00 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Ememies huh,....... :evil:


Yup. Whenever a political party openly roots for a president's failure, it's bad enough. To do so at the start of a term and in the face of two wars and a great depression, it's borderline treasonous. You guys ceased being "our friends across the aisle" a long time ago.


You mean like the Democrats did after the 2000 election???

You should change your name to Hypocrisy Finder!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:14 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:You mean like the Democrats did after the 2000 election???

You should change your name to Hypocrisy Finder!


You're engaging in the very same false equivalence game you criticize others on here for. What does the 2000 election have to do with Obama, who won the popular vote decisively? There was no hanging cloud of suspicion over his presidential legitimacy, as there was with Bush. All voters should've been outraged in 2000. The justices didn't even sign their name to the majority opinion it was so bad. I think its pretty obvious that had the Supreme Court stopped the recount and installed a Democrat, Tea Party types would've made Washington look like the Watts Riots.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:15 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Ememies huh,....... :evil:


Yup. Whenever a political party openly roots for a president's failure, it's bad enough. To do so at the start of a term and in the face of two wars and a great depression, it's borderline treasonous. You guys ceased being "our friends across the aisle" a long time ago.


You mean like the Democrats did after the 2000 election???

You should change your name to Hypocrisy Finder!


So this election has been reduced to calling Americans who don't follow your political policies enemies. I was really hoping this was taken out of context. Wrong!! I checked. This election, the tactics and what our current culture allows have really crossed the line for me. Next year we'll probably have fistfights in congress like they do in Asia. It's just so sad. I've tried hard to support this president because he is our Pres, but these tactics are nuts and destructive. I'm just down and out depressed and avoiding any of the stupid campaign ads on TV.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:16 pm

RocknRoll wrote:Next year we'll probably have fistfights in congress like they do in Asia. It's just so sad.


I am completely in favor of this.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:19 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:Next year we'll probably have fistfights in congress like they do in Asia. It's just so sad.


I am completely in favor of this.


...and that's so constructive!! :roll: Nice way to actually agree to solve some very serious problems with our economy.

Next election they should recruit some WWF guys. Don't remember her name but since she's behind this year I bet she's willing to help :lol:
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:36 pm

You ConnTards get better by the minute.

My posts are backed up by pure fact. .Gov, .Org, and raw, irrefutable data. Just because something is published by the HuffPost, Snopes, or that bastion of liberal Soros Re-education camp-endorising journalists over at the AP, does not make facts untrue - or debatable.

HimmlerFan, you're very entertaining. The greatest purveyor of the irreverent and irrelevant shouldn't call anyone out for anything.

And LiePaster...heh heh heh. You're the Grand Dragon (point intended) of nutjob-blog copy-and-paste jobs.

And Stewart...it's so nice to hear from you again. Remove the gauze from your ears and you may learn enough to obtain that pesky GED that has eluded you for the past three decades.

Just because you WANT my sources to be invalid, does not make them so. Again, I find it amusing to the point of absurdity that every time TNC, Deano or I nail something on the head that you can't possibly discredit, the subject immediately changes to our supposed lack of intelligence, tendency to copulate with corpulent middle-aged politicians, or something that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with anything pursuant to the matter being discussed.

Please, though...keep it up. You knuckle-dragging, dittohead-parroting, sound byte-worshipping Neanderthals are my primary source of entertainment outside of my family, friends, and books.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:42 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:Next year we'll probably have fistfights in congress like they do in Asia. It's just so sad.


I am completely in favor of this.


PAY PER VIEW!

We should put in for the right to it now!
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:43 pm

Seven Wishes wrote: You knuckle-dragging, dittohead-parroting, sound byte-worshipping Neanderthals are my primary source of entertainment outside of my family, friends, and books.


You REALLY don't get out much do you?

If we are your entertainment you are in FAR worse shape than I thought.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:57 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:Next year we'll probably have fistfights in congress like they do in Asia. It's just so sad.


I am completely in favor of this.


PAY PER VIEW!

We should put in for the right to it now!


ooh ooh ooh!!! They could build a coliseum right next to the senate chambers. Who cares what historical monuments get knocked down, it'll create jobs and these monuments are not important to Obama and the folks he's recruiting. Then it's just a matter of who wins the fistfight. Policy decided!! Easy!!
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:27 pm

Now this really surprises me. In Chicago Obama has campaigned heavily for Alexi Giannouias for the senate and now it looks like a black pastor Willie Wilson is supporting the pub Mark Kirk. of course, it's Chicago politics so who knows?http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44125.html

I'm just glad to see that this country isn't as polarized as Obama seems to want to make it.
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Postby RedWingFan » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:29 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:You mean like the Democrats did after the 2000 election???

You should change your name to Hypocrisy Finder!


You're engaging in the very same false equivalence game you criticize others on here for. What does the 2000 election have to do with Obama, who won the popular vote decisively? There was no hanging cloud of suspicion over his presidential legitimacy, as there was with Bush.

At least we've seen Bush's birth certificate!!! :lol:
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:13 pm

Obama has made more of an effort in two years to reach across the aisle than that troglodyte Dubbya did in his eight horrendous years as "President".

And seriously, RightWingNutjob - if your party attempts to subvert the legislative process for the next two years by attempting to subpoena Obama's birth certificate - as many TeaBagger candidates have promised - you can kiss your party goodbye in the long term.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:31 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:Obama has made more of an effort in two years to reach across the aisle than that troglodyte Dubbya did in his eight horrendous years as "President".

And seriously, RightWingNutjob - if your party attempts to subvert the legislative process for the next two years by attempting to subpoena Obama's birth certificate - as many TeaBagger candidates have promised - you can kiss your party goodbye in the long term.


Excuse me, but where did Obama reach across the aisle to get Republicans input? He's was only looking for support for his policies!! He refused to listen to the Republican's alternatives, so that pretty much set the tone of the last two years.
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Postby RocknRoll » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:01 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:You mean like the Democrats did after the 2000 election???

You should change your name to Hypocrisy Finder!


You're engaging in the very same false equivalence game you criticize others on here for. What does the 2000 election have to do with Obama, who won the popular vote decisively? There was no hanging cloud of suspicion over his presidential legitimacy, as there was with Bush.

At least we've seen Bush's birth certificate!!! :lol:


Just give up the birth thing. It doen't matter anymore. Look at what where our politcians want to take this country!
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Postby slucero » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:21 pm

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:22 pm

RocknRoll wrote:Excuse me, but where did Obama reach across the aisle to get Republicans input? He's was only looking for support for his policies!!

The stimulus was 1/3 tax cuts. The healthcare bill was modeled on Republican healthcare plans dating back to the administrations of Bush Sr and Richard Nixon. None of this was red meat to the liberal base. Just the opposite. With Rahm Emanuel's hand on the tiller, Obama has governed as a Clinton centrist.

RocknRoll wrote:He refused to listen to the Republican's alternatives, so that pretty much set the tone of the last two years.


The tone was set when the GOP opposed the stimulus, thereby causing Dems to reduce its size and load it up with more GOP appeasing tax cuts. Does anyone really believe that a Republican administration would not have pursued the same policy? Both the economic advisers of McCain and W. were calling for stimulus. Right then and there, the GOP proved they were more interested in a game of political chicken than the well-being of the nation. The tone was also set when Rush Limbaugh, the de-facto leader of the party, openly hoped that Obama (and by extension, America) fails.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:01 pm

RocknRoll wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:Obama has made more of an effort in two years to reach across the aisle than that troglodyte Dubbya did in his eight horrendous years as "President".

And seriously, RightWingNutjob - if your party attempts to subvert the legislative process for the next two years by attempting to subpoena Obama's birth certificate - as many TeaBagger candidates have promised - you can kiss your party goodbye in the long term.


Excuse me, but where did Obama reach across the aisle to get Republicans input? He's was only looking for support for his policies!! He refused to listen to the Republican's alternatives, so that pretty much set the tone of the last two years.


Wrong again. This was written by a fiscally conservative, social moderate.

Wow, you guys are proud of your stubborn ignorance. How does it feel to be wrong, all the time?

http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/washington/archives/obama-as-a-centrist-really.html

Don't forget, the TARP fund was initiated by the Bush Administration, not Obama's. And it was the right thing to do. Had we not bailed out the automobile industry, there would have been more like 2 million additional jobs lost

Seriously? The negative components of the healthcare bill - the lack of a single payor system, the lack of a pre-existing condition denial clause until 2014, and the lack of regulation of the insurance companies with respect to price controls - were all elements insisted upon by the 3 Republicans not arrogant and stubborn enough to put Big Oil ahead of the good of their constituencies.

Obama has done more to reach across the aisle - compromising far too much, in my opinion. He has been Democratically principled centrist. A lot of frustration stems from the fact that a lot of the legislative accomplishments have been tarnished by too much compromise - Obama and the Democrats acquiesced far too much for a party that had a filibuster-proof majority.
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Postby RedWingFan » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:33 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The tone was also set when Rush Limbaugh, the de-facto leader of the party, openly hoped that Obama (and by extension, America) fails.


So hoping someone trying to implement damaging policies on the country fails, is hoping America fails? You're either stupid, lying or confused.

Let's look at it mathmatically.

A positive + a negative = a negative. A negative + a negative = a positive.

Positive (Obama success) + Negative (damaging policies) = Negative (America damaged)

Negative (Obama failure) + Negative (damaging policies) = Positive (America unaffected)

Get it? I don't know how to make it anymore simple than that.
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Postby hoagiepete » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:19 am

Just saw Fox's Shep Smith got I nice new contract.

Anyone know why Fox makes him sound like he is broadcasting from a metal shed? The echo effect they put on him bothers me. I'm not a regular viewer, mainly hearing bits and pieces on Sirius, but it is annoying.

I've wondered about this for a while. Figured you guys would know.
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