President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[slucero]

Resounding victory tonight for the GOP.

Losing Nevada was laughable, and proof at the tremendous underlying weakness of the Tea Bagger party - and a thorough evisceration of Angle in particular. The Democrats will have a minimum of 50 seats in the Senate, guaranteed - and even if everything else falls the way of the GOP, and even if the two Independents (one of whom regularly caucuses with the Democrats and one who's named, ugh...Joseph Libermann) were to side with Republicans on a particular piece of legislation, Biden would hold the tie breaker.

The gains in the House are largely attributable to districts that have traditionally voted Republican and only went Blue in the past four years. Additionally, redistricting has made a good number of those sectors so one-sided that often times the Democrats didn't even bother fielding an opponent. The concentration of white male voters in most of the House precincts was enough to overcome the overall lack of support (nationally) for the Republican party, but it wasn't enough to win back the Senate. The Republican party is now DOA, because any successes will be attributed to Obama, and now the House will be accountable to the voters. If the perception in 2012 is the House was being obstructionist and caused massive gridlock in 2010 and 2011, the backlash against the GOP will be noticeable and permanent.

So go ahead and gloat in your non-victory tonight. Healthcare repeal? DOA. Goodnight, neo-cons.

Sore loser....

[RossValoryRocks]

Resounding victory tonight for the GOP.

Losing Nevada was laughable, and proof at the tremendous underlying weakness of the Tea Bagger party - and a thorough evisceration of Angle in particular. The Democrats will have a minimum of 50 seats in the Senate, guaranteed - and even if everything else falls the way of the GOP, and even if the two Independents (one of whom regularly caucuses with the Democrats and one who's named, ugh...Joseph Libermann) were to side with Republicans on a particular piece of legislation, Biden would hold the tie breaker.

The gains in the House are largely attributable to districts that have traditionally voted Republican and only went Blue in the past four years. Additionally, redistricting has made a good number of those sectors so one-sided that often times the Democrats didn't even bother fielding an opponent. The concentration of white male voters in most of the House precincts was enough to overcome the overall lack of support (nationally) for the Republican party, but it wasn't enough to win back the Senate. The Republican party is now DOA, because any successes will be attributed to Obama, and now the House will be accountable to the voters. If the perception in 2012 is the House was being obstructionist and caused massive gridlock in 2010 and 2011, the backlash against the GOP will be noticeable and permanent.

So go ahead and gloat in your non-victory tonight. Healthcare repeal? DOA. Goodnight, neo-cons.

You just don't get it...The Republicans don't actually have to repeal Obamacare...all they have to do is have a VOTE on it...then send it to the Senate where the Democrats will kill it...or IF it passes...it gets vetoed...and the Republicans have kept their word...it is the Democrats that have failed and they get punished...I know it sounds stupid...but it is how Washington works...and given your STELLAR track record this year (see the earlier post with your predictions in it), I wouldn't believe to much in your predictions of the future.

No one thought the Republicans would win the Senate with 100% certainty...but to pick up as many seats as the Republicans did, doesn't bode well for the Democrats.

And EVERYTHING you said in the post here was cribbed right from MSNBC's coverage last night...I heard ALL of them (MR. O, Tingle-Legs and Man-Woman) say various comments right along the lines of what you said, and it is just you and your ilk being sore losers and as wrong as you can be...

[Seven Wishes2]

Nice try...but we were installing our new TV last night and I didn't have MSNBC on for a moment. No, these are MY deductions based upon MY observations.

Anyway, if your guys do somehow have the magic carrot, I'll be the first one to voice my support for it. I doubt it will happen, but I do hope. The well being of our great nation is far more important than the success (or lack thereof) and adherence to a particular set of principles.

[donnaplease]

I was very impressed by the speeches given by both Rand Paul and Joe Manchik (?sp). Whatever your political leanings, I think the message from last night was very clear - our government representatives have to listen to the people, and extremes on both ends of the spectrum are NOT gonna be acceptable. I think the 'wackos' of the tea party were weeded out, and some really good TP candidates were elected. Now BO needs to step up and be the leader that the country expected him to be - a leader for ALL Americans... even the "enemies".

Bottom line... United we stand, Divided we fall.

God bless America

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm talking about NEWS COVERAGE of the election results. People who tune into Beck's show or Olbermann's show know what they're getting. If someone just tunes in for election results, they should expect more than some frat boys trying to make fun of the uncool kids. Understand the difference?

No, not really. Objective and personality-free analysts like Chuck Todd can break in every 15 minutes and give election updates. Meanwhile, the network's main stars can host the coverage. This is cable news, not NPR. I watched some of Fox's coverage. While Brett was very professional, it did not make for exciting or particularly good TV.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Which is why I don't watch Beck...

Go ahead. I do. He is an entertaining guy.

[The_Noble_Cause]

MSNBC was a total embaressment last night...Matthews and some other dickhead were trying to conduct Spanish Inquisitions on Pubbie Victors while they were surrounded by throngs of people at rallies.

Asking a GOP politician who runs on cutting gov't just what programs they intend to cut is not a "spanish inquisition." You'll note, none of them could give a straight answer. It's no surprise. Most of the newly elected teabagger crew are also pushing tax cuts without spending offsets. They are all talk.

[RossValoryRocks]

Which is why I don't watch Beck...

Go ahead. I do. He is an entertaining guy.

I just can't watch conspiracy theorists of any stripe...they are all loons.

[RossValoryRocks]

MSNBC was a total embaressment last night...Matthews and some other dickhead were trying to conduct Spanish Inquisitions on Pubbie Victors while they were surrounded by throngs of people at rallies.

Asking a GOP politician who runs on cutting gov't just what programs they intend to cut is not a "spanish inquisition." You'll note, none of them could give a straight answer. It's no surprise. Most of the newly elected teabagger crew are also pushing tax cuts without spending offsets. They are all talk.

Well to be fair, its election night...specifics should come at a later date...remember just how large the federal programs are, and until they can dig in to look, asking them exact programs is just trying to trip them up to get a sound bite to use later...you know the "you said this on election night but did this now" that all media uses again all politicians. If the republicans don't cut expenditures, or atheists least make the attempt to do so, I will join you in calling for their heads. They talk the talk...but do they live up to their hype? If thy are going to be republicans like the 2002 to 2006 republicans I want them gone.

[RossValoryRocks]

Resounding victory tonight for the GOP.

Let's take a closer look 7.


This morning, Republicans-elect control 20 more State Houses than they did yesterday. The last time the Republicans controlled this many State Legislatures was back in the 1920s.

GOP swept to control of both houses of the Minnesota Legislature. Been a generation.

A staggering GOP victory in the Texas House: Republicans posted a net gain of 22 seats -, far more than anyone predicted.

First time in history, Republicans control the Tennessee House, Senate with a Republican Governor.

GOP rides wave to control every statewide office in Georgia.

GOP takes control of Alabama Legislature after 136 years.

GOP takes control of North Carolina General Assembly for the first time since 1898! That’s 112 years.

GOP takes both houses in Maine.

GOP takes both houses in New Hampshire.

GOP takes both houses in Wisconsin.

GOP takes Washington House of Represenatives.

GOP won additional chambers in Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Montana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

In total legislative seats, it is possible that after all the results are posted, Republicans will have won a nationwide majority.

Republicans haven’t enjoyed this much power in state capitals since the 1920s.

Control of House of Represenatives with at least 61 new members and possibly up to 65 depending on some outcomes.

At least 6 new Senators.

10 State Governorships.

All told the GOP picked up close to 500 seats yesterday with some still being contested.

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7, Dean, TNC, Monker and the rest...oh yeah..what happend to OhSherrie? Dean, that asswhipping you took must have left a mark...

Here's a little dity for ya..it'll make ya feel a bit better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijQUkkFq-Hc&feature=fvw


7, yes it was a resounding victory, even ABC called it a Bloodbath. 500 seats dude, 500 fucking seats. Put that in your pipe and wake and bake to that thought..

Not to mention...with all those governorships and state legislatures come he redistricting powers in those states...which will make it very very hard for democrats to win back seats...especially in places like PA that are losing congressional districts.

[The_Noble_Cause]

MSNBC was a total embaressment last night...Matthews and some other dickhead were trying to conduct Spanish Inquisitions on Pubbie Victors while they were surrounded by throngs of people at rallies.

Asking a GOP politician who runs on cutting gov't just what programs they intend to cut is not a "spanish inquisition." You'll note, none of them could give a straight answer. It's no surprise. Most of the newly elected teabagger crew are also pushing tax cuts without spending offsets. They are all talk.

Well to be fair, its election night...specifics should come at a later date...remember just how large the federal programs are, and until they can dig in to look, asking them exact programs is just trying to trip them up to get a sound bite to use later...you know the "you said this on election night but did this now" that all media uses again all politicians.

I agree. But I don’t think it's unreasonable for pundits to ask elected officials what they are going to do. While it may seem premature, you CAN'T fill ten minutes of airtime just by wishing "congratulations" over and over again. Pretty amusing that FF compares a simple question like that to torture. Where I'm from, it's called a softball.

[conversationpc]

Which is why I don't watch Beck...

Go ahead. I do. He is an entertaining guy.

I just can't watch conspiracy theorists of any stripe...they are all loons.

There are a lot more loony conspiracy theorists out there than Beck. While I don't agree with him on everything or the depth to which things might be "conspiratorial", I do think he's right on a lot. That being said, real conspiracies have happened throughout history, so you can't just offhandedly dismiss all of them.

[conversationpc]

Resounding victory tonight for the GOP.

Let's take a closer look 7.


This morning, Republicans-elect control 20 more State Houses than they did yesterday. The last time the Republicans controlled this many State Legislatures was back in the 1920s.

GOP swept to control of both houses of the Minnesota Legislature. Been a generation.

A staggering GOP victory in the Texas House: Republicans posted a net gain of 22 seats -, far more than anyone predicted.

First time in history, Republicans control the Tennessee House, Senate with a Republican Governor.

GOP rides wave to control every statewide office in Georgia.

GOP takes control of Alabama Legislature after 136 years.

GOP takes control of North Carolina General Assembly for the first time since 1898! That’s 112 years.

GOP takes both houses in Maine.

GOP takes both houses in New Hampshire.

GOP takes both houses in Wisconsin.

GOP takes Washington House of Represenatives.

GOP won additional chambers in Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Montana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

In total legislative seats, it is possible that after all the results are posted, Republicans will have won a nationwide majority.

Republicans haven’t enjoyed this much power in state capitals since the 1920s.

Control of House of Represenatives with at least 61 new members and possibly up to 65 depending on some outcomes.

At least 6 new Senators.

10 State Governorships.

All told the GOP picked up close to 500 seats yesterday with some still being contested.

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7, yes it was a resounding victory, even ABC called it a Bloodbath. 500 seats dude, 500 fucking seats. Put that in your pipe and wake and bake to that thought..

Yeah, I think the steroid injection went straight to the brain this time. The Republicans did about as well as predicted in the House and Senate and, from what I'd heard, better than expected in state and local races. It certainly is a resounding victory.

Now they need to live up to the talk and actually do something, which is going to be difficult.

[RedWingFan]

MSNBC was a total embaressment last night...Matthews and some other dickhead were trying to conduct Spanish Inquisitions on Pubbie Victors while they were surrounded by throngs of people at rallies.

Asking a GOP politician who runs on cutting gov't just what programs they intend to cut is not a "spanish inquisition." You'll note, none of them could give a straight answer. It's no surprise. Most of the newly elected teabagger crew are also pushing tax cuts without spending offsets. They are all talk.

Well to be fair, its election night...specifics should come at a later date...remember just how large the federal programs are, and until they can dig in to look, asking them exact programs is just trying to trip them up to get a sound bite to use later...you know the "you said this on election night but did this now" that all media uses again all politicians.

I agree. But I don’t think it's unreasonable for pundits to ask elected officials what they are going to do. While it may seem premature, you CAN'T fill ten minutes of airtime just by wishing "congratulations" over and over again. Pretty amusing that FF compares a simple question like that to torture. Where I'm from, it's called a softball.

What about when Chris Matthews was talking to a former Alaskan politician and he asked him. "Have you ever seen Sarah Palin actually read something? Have you seen her read anything?" She's not even there to defend herself and the assclown is taking his frustrations out on her. What a dispicable piece of dogshit that guy is. No wonder MSNBC has no viewers. Any right minded people would have to shower for 45 minutes to rid themselves of the stench.

[Seven Wishes2]

That exactly right RVR, now 7 can learn a new big word....REDISTRICTING. That is irrefuteably the word for the day.

Brainless One, I'd already mentioned that in an earlier post.

Without the Senate, last night meant very little.

[RossValoryRocks]

That exactly right RVR, now 7 can learn a new big word....REDISTRICTING. That is irrefuteably the word for the day.

Brainless One, I'd already mentioned that in an earlier post.

Without the Senate, last night meant very little.

It actually works in their favor to NOT have won the Senate...and just to clarify...you think congress does redistricting?

[conversationpc]

That exactly right RVR, now 7 can learn a new big word....REDISTRICTING. That is irrefuteably the word for the day.

Brainless One, I'd already mentioned that in an earlier post.

Without the Senate, last night meant very little.

It actually works in their favor to NOT have won the Senate...and just to clarify...you think congress does redistricting?

I does work in their favor in one respect...If they can't get legislation moving through or repeal stuff like O-bummer-care, they will still be able to point to the Democrat-controlled Senate as the stopping point of progress in the federal government.

[The_Noble_Cause]

What about when Chris Matthews was talking to a former Alaskan politician and he asked him. "Have you ever seen Sarah Palin actually read something? Have you seen her read anything?" She's not even there to defend herself and the assclown is taking his frustrations out on her. What a dispicable piece of dogshit that guy is.

Mathews says crazy shit all the time. Who cares? And what difference would it have made if she was there? Palin's been asked before to name her favorite periodicals. Her famous non-answer answer? All of them. Same thing she said when Beck asked her to name her favorite founding father. Unlike most politicians, she can't even fake her way through an interview.

No wonder MSNBC has no viewers. Any right minded people would have to shower for 45 minutes to rid themselves of the stench.

MSNBC is doing just fine. Its ratings are far above what they were when it was the right wing home of Savage, Coulter, Carlson, Keyes etc etc. Seems you can't handle diversity in the marketplace.

[The_Noble_Cause]

There are a lot more loony conspiracy theorists out there than Beck.

Yea, and most broadcast on short-wave garage radio, not on the most highly watched news channel. Ailes and Murdoch should be ashamed of themselves.

[lights1961]

GOP ROCKS...

just saying...

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

That exactly right RVR, now 7 can learn a new big word....REDISTRICTING. That is irrefuteably the word for the day.

Brainless One, I'd already mentioned that in an earlier post.

Without the Senate, last night meant very little.

It actually works in their favor to NOT have won the Senate...and just to clarify...you think congress does redistricting?

I does work in their favor in one respect...If they can't get legislation moving through or repeal stuff like O-bummer-care, they will still be able to point to the Democrat-controlled Senate as the stopping point of progress in the federal government.

Tactically two seats short in the Senate is exactly where they would want to be politically. They have votes to maintain filibuster, can get nervouse senators like Nelson and Manchin to side with them on key votes , but can point a finger at Senate Democrats. If they had 51 senators they still wouldn't be able to overcome filibusters or override vetoes.

[Don]

In regards to the Senate, Isn't that the most sense for the Republicans, to have enough of a minority for filabustering while the Democrats hold the speaker position so the populous can blame both parties in Congress, not just one?

[Michigan Girl]

Uncle Toms ...heehee, FF!!

[conversationpc]

Yo...heads up...7 Wishes and the rest....live it, learn it...

The Republican wave produced groundbreaking results for minority candidates, from Latina and Indian-American governors to a pair of black congressmen from the Deep South.

In New Mexico, Susana Martinez was elected as the nation's first female Hispanic governor. Nikki Haley, whose parents were born in India, will be the first woman governor in South Carolina, and Brian Sandoval became Nevada's first Hispanic governor.

Insurance company owner Tim Scott will be the first black Republican congressman from South Carolina since Reconstruction, after easily winning in his conservative district. Scott, a 45-year-old state representative, earned a primary victory over the son of the one-time segregationist U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond.

In Florida, veteran Allen West ousted a two-term Democrat to a House seat. He is the first black Republican elected to Congress from Florida since a former slave served two terms in the 1870s.

The last black Republican in Congress was J.C. Watts of Oklahoma. He left office in 2003. There were 42 black Democrats in Congress this term.

Several Latino Republicans defeated incumbent House Democrats. In Texas, Bill Flores snatched a seat from Rep. Chet Edwards, who had served 20 years in Congress, and Francisco Canseco beat Rep. Ciro Rodriguez. Jamie Herrera became the first Latino congressman from Washington state.

Opposition to President Barack Obama's agenda fueled Tuesday's GOP surge, and many also connected Obama to the rise of minority GOP candidates.

"Color is becoming less of an issue," said Richard Ivory, a black Republican political consultant and founder of hiphoprepublican.com. "There was a time when the white electorate saw race first and made judgments based on this alone. While black Republicans and Obama disagree ideologically, both are candidates whose message surpassed pigment."

I posted the same article over on Facebook. Thought it was pretty funny considering the far overuse of the race card by the lefties.

[Saint John]

I think it's both fair and worth noting that the wipe out seen last night was probably more of a vote against the establishment then it was for the Republicans. Probably not to the same degree, but I would bet that if the roles were reversed you would see quite a few Republicans cleaning out their offices today. Both parties helped create the mess and the one that was in the White House was almost sure to feel the wrath. But, with that said, last night was also a vote against the "politics as usual" policies that Obama said he was out to "change." He lied and the House died.

[Don]

Edited.

[Saint John]

Thanks, Don. Fixed it.

[Rockindeano]

I think it's both fair and worth noting that the wipe out seen last night was probably more of a vote against the establishment then it was for the Republicans. Probably not to the same degree, but I would bet that if the roles were reversed you would see quite a few Republicans cleaning out their offices today. Both parties helped create the mess and the one that was in the White House was almost sure to feel the wrath. But, with that said, last night was also a vote against the "politics as usual" policies that Obama said he was out to "change." He lied and the House died.

Very solid post, Dan. It is nice to see someone on the right write something readable. Seriously, I can't even start to read Finder's garbage...just so nauseating. Anyway, I agree with you. This wasn't a vote so much for republicanism as it was against incumbancy. I was seriously hoping that the Dems would lose the Senate too, thus ensuring the death of the GOP in two years. They have gone on record as saying they will NEVER compromise nor go along with the president's agenda. So, in two years,after getting NOTHING done for the people of America, they would be walking and not the Democrats. The only thing that kept me pulling for Reid(and he is a piece of shit), is keeping Angle as far away as possible from government. Seriously, how bad a candidate does one have to be to lose to a weak Harry Reid?

Also, Finder and RWF, you are both blind, deaf and dumb regarding Bachmans interview with Matthews. He simply asked her a question. For those of you who missed it, he asked, "You have said before on my show, that if you become the majority, you will investigate Democratic lawmakers for acting "Un American. Will you still do this?


She would not answer it, instead going to some phony economic canned answer.

Being a good interviewer, and he is, he asked the same question yet again. She would not answer it.

And you Pubbies blame Matthews for badgering her? You go on to bash the guy for asking a legitimate question, of which she before put out here herself? You people are unbelievable.

I am going to enjoy the next two years, attacking your sorry asses for once. It's much easier bashing the shit out of someone, especially when they are guaranteed to fail and fuck up. The GOP Congress cannot succeed with what they have promised. Again, I wish we would have lost the Senate too. Dammit!

The biggest "win" for the GOP was obviously Governerships and House races....REDISTRICTING. They can now draw new lines to ensure some future success.

Winning the House is really non changing. Not one thing will get done.

[slucero]

GOP got the subpoena back...

If they won back the House in November, Republicans would be granted the power to issue subpoenas by controlling the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Bachmann is not a member of the committee, but Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is its ranking member. Issa has already demonstrated his eagerness to invoke the power of subpoena, which he could use to cause legislative headaches and political paralysis for the administration. The California Republican has vowed to pursue a wide array of charges, should the Republicans win back the House.

Wonder if they'll finally find Obama's real birth certificate...

[slucero]

TWO YEARS after the American people (disgusted with what the conservative party had become) issued an ultimatum giving the liberals (on the premise of "change") the helm.... they've again issued an ultimatum...

In two more years - if nothing has "changed"... The American people will most likely speak again... and with the Tea Party now firmly a force in Washington.. 2012 may be a most interesting year in this nations history...