President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[steveo777]

So, is everyone else as excited as I am that Barry announced his candidacy for 2012?

Whatever. Again, if the unemployment rate gets below 7.5% before the election cycle, he'll win in a landslide. Otherwise, it's up in the air. Honestly, I don't care anymore. He's pretty much alienated everyone at this stage.

He will not be reelected. A black man was finally elected and the novelty has worn off. Someone else will be Pres in 2012. This was a gimmick election with a bunch of oversell and under delivery.

[Behshad]

So, is everyone else as excited as I am that Barry announced his candidacy for 2012?

Whatever. Again, if the unemployment rate gets below 7.5% before the election cycle, he'll win in a landslide. Otherwise, it's up in the air. Honestly, I don't care anymore. He's pretty much alienated everyone at this stage.

He will not be reelected. A black man was finally elected and the novelty has worn off. Someone else will be Pres in 2012. This was a gimmick election with a bunch of oversell and under delivery.

What do YOU know about politics If Bush got elected AND re-elected, ANYTHING is possible

[steveo777]

So, is everyone else as excited as I am that Barry announced his candidacy for 2012?

Whatever. Again, if the unemployment rate gets below 7.5% before the election cycle, he'll win in a landslide. Otherwise, it's up in the air. Honestly, I don't care anymore. He's pretty much alienated everyone at this stage.

He will not be reelected. A black man was finally elected and the novelty has worn off. Someone else will be Pres in 2012. This was a gimmick election with a bunch of oversell and under delivery.

What do YOU know about politics If Bush got elected AND re-elected, ANYTHING is possible

Not much, honestly. What I do know is that the people at the polls are a bunch of misguided idiots.

[Seven Wishes2]

So, is everyone else as excited as I am that Barry announced his candidacy for 2012?

Whatever. Again, if the unemployment rate gets below 7.5% before the election cycle, he'll win in a landslide. Otherwise, it's up in the air. Honestly, I don't care anymore. He's pretty much alienated everyone at this stage.

He will not be reelected. A black man was finally elected and the novelty has worn off. Someone else will be Pres in 2012. This was a gimmick election with a bunch of oversell and under delivery.

Not if Palin or Gingrich wins the GOP nomination.

[Seven Wishes2]

Oh, fucking A. This is so fucking ridiculous. Trump is making himself look like an even bigger douchebag than he probably is.

[Rick]

Trump: I Have Investigators in Hawaii...'They Cannot Believe What They're Finding'



http://thepage.time.com/2011/04/06/trump’s-hawaii-investigation/#ixzz1InPZWcjT

Dude, when you resort to posting things said by Donald Trump, you might as well post things said by Donald Duck.

[RedWingFan]

Trump: I Have Investigators in Hawaii...'They Cannot Believe What They're Finding'



http://thepage.time.com/2011/04/06/trump’s-hawaii-investigation/#ixzz1InPZWcjT

Dude, when you resort to posting things said by Donald Trump, you might as well post things said by Donald Duck.

Do you doubt either would do a better job than the Bamster?

[Behshad]

Trump: I Have Investigators in Hawaii...'They Cannot Believe What They're Finding'



http://thepage.time.com/2011/04/06/trump’s-hawaii-investigation/#ixzz1InPZWcjT

Dude, when you resort to posting things said by Donald Trump, you might as well post things said by Donald Duck.

[Seven Wishes2]

Do you doubt either would do a better job than the Bamster?

Unequivocally. Trump would order a hit on the first foreign Prime Minister to look at him the wrong way, would fire half his Cabinet before he was even sworn in, and nuke half the world within the first six months. Far too conservative to win an election. Compared to Palin, though, he's more liberal than Barney Frank's poop chute.

Palin didn't even care to fulfill her prior two employment obligations. She's a business-savvy money-whore who couldn't give two shits about her own children, and is as dumb as an ox besides. She's too far removed from mainstream thought to even consider running.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Do you doubt either would do a better job than the Bamster?

Unequivocally. Trump would order a hit on the first foreign Prime Minister to look at him the wrong way, would fire half his Cabinet before he was even sworn in, and nuke half the world within the first six months. Far too conservative to win an election. Compared to Palin, though, he's more liberal than Barney Frank's poop chute.

Palin didn't even care to fulfill her prior two employment obligations. She's a business-savvy money-whore who couldn't give two shits about her own children, and is as dumb as an ox besides. She's too far removed from mainstream thought to even consider running.

No way Trump will the Republican Party nominate Trump - hes got no contituents in the Republican party

1. The religious right who care only about their social agenda whist sitting around waiting for the rapture. They'll all go for "Pastor Mike" and his big government conservatism (tried that with GW Bush, but they'll never learn)
2. the spineless country club wing (the folks who beleive in nothing except believing in nothing ) will be shocked by Trump and wont vote for him. they'll go for Romney
3. The only principled group- the libertarian faction in the republican party would never vote for Trump. Theres nothing libertarian (or small govt) in his rap, and after he tore into Ron Paul at CPAC, he'd never get their support. That wing will go heavily for a Ron Paul or Gary Johnson,


Cant see who votes for Trump.

[S2M]

The problem with this country is there are NOT enough people(voters) who care about the future of this country to vote for a person who can right this ship....Everybody has their own agenda, and each faction will take votes away from the 'right' candidate.

Think of it like voting for a post-season sports award when their are 2 people up from the same team. One player is going to take votes away from the other player, and the third person(not from that team) usually snipes in for the win....

Voters are famous for mouthing off about how someone has to do something, but when offered that person - they, instead, cower, and claim, 'That's TOO progressive! That's TOO aggressive!' blah, blah, blah.....

Washington is set up with the two-party system to keep folks at odds with each other. So they can keep getting away with the same shit they've been getting away with since Ole Honest Abe mounted Mary Todd....

One big game of Duck Duck Goose......

[Rick]

Trump: I Have Investigators in Hawaii...'They Cannot Believe What They're Finding'



http://thepage.time.com/2011/04/06/trump’s-hawaii-investigation/#ixzz1InPZWcjT

Dude, when you resort to posting things said by Donald Trump, you might as well post things said by Donald Duck.

Do you doubt either would do a better job than the Bamster?

I can't take Trump seriously. Not for a minute.

[RedWingFan]

I think it's about time I brought back my Obama/Emperor Palpatine av.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_c ... y-fbi.html

Three largest online poker sites indicted and shut down by FBI

The founders of the three largest online poker sites were indicted by the FBI on Friday in what could serve as a death blow to the thriving industry.

Eleven executives at PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker were charged with bank fraud and money laundering in an indictment unsealed in a Manhattan court. Two of the executives were arrested on Friday morning in Utah and Nevada. Federal agents are searching for the others.

Prosecutors are seeking to immediately shut down the sites and to eventually send the executives to jail and to recover $3 billion from the companies. By Friday afternoon Full Tilt Poker’s site displayed a message explaining that “this domain name has been seized by the F.B.I. pursuant to an Arrest Warrant.”

The online gambling industry has taken off over the last decade, drawing an estimated 15 million Americans to bet online.

In 2006 Congress passed a law prohibiting online gambling. Most of the leading sites found ways to work around the law using foreign banks, but prosecutors allege that in doing so they broke the law.

“These defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits,” Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, said in a statement.

Poker fans took to Twitter in droves, worried about the money in their online gaming accounts, fretting that online poker's days were at an end.

"Well the good news is I think I only had about $300 left on the online poker sites overall," tweeted Jimi Schindler of Madison, Wis. "Maybe I'll see that money?!!?"

[S2M]

And Haliburton wasn't/isn't? Knock it off, FF...

[Seven Wishes2]

Bait and switch again, FF. Way to ignore the past 20 pages or the egregious offenses of the GOP and try to pin it on Gore.

I do like the graphic, though. Kudos to that one.

Anyway, we should start speculating on some of those delicious prospective Republican 2012 tickets. Shall we start with, say...

Buchanan-O'Reilly?
Palin-Bachmann?
Beck-Satan?
Trump-Cantor?
Limbaugh-Gingrich?
Gramm-Hannity?
Jeb Bush-Curt Bush?

What'cha got?

I'm telling you now...if the GOP doesn't nominate Romney, Obama will be President again in 2012. He's the only one with a chance in hell.

[S2M]

Bait and switch again, FF. Way to ignore the past 20 pages or the egregious offenses of the GOP and try to pin it on Gore.

I do like the graphic, though. Kudos to that one.

Anyway, we should start speculating on some of those delicious prospective Republican 2012 tickets. Shall we start with, say...

Buchanan-O'Reilly?
Palin-Bachmann?
Beck-Satan?
Trump-Cantor?
Limbaugh-Gingrich?
Gramm-Hannity?
Jeb Bush-Curt Bush?

What'cha got?

I'm telling you now...if the GOP doesn't nominate Romney, Obama will be President again in 2012. He's the only one with a chance in hell.

Wrong...Trump is leading as of today, with Huckabee 2nd, and Mitt a distant 3rd....I'd actually come out of my voting shell to vote for Donald....

I'd like to see a Maher/Stewart ticket.....

[Seven Wishes2]

Matt was right, spot on. Re-read his post from the last page. No WAY Trump wins the nomination, let alone the general No chance in hell.

[S2M]

Matt was right, spot on. Re-read his post from the last page. No WAY Trump wins the nomination, let alone the general No chance in hell.

He said he'd run as the third ticket if he didn't think he'd win the Republican Nomination....BUT, he said he didn't want to take votes away from the GOP candidate....

[Seven Wishes2]

From factcheck.com:

In his speech on deficit reduction Wednesday, President Obama declared: "America's finances were in great shape by the year 2000. We went from deficit to surplus. America was actually on track to becoming completely debt-free, and we were prepared for the retirement of the Baby Boomers."

Is that an accurate picture of how things stood at the turn of the century? Actually, yes. In 2000, we had a budget surplus of $230 billion, and both President Clinton and President Bush expressed confidence that the U.S. national debt could be paid off in full by 2010.Were we prepared for the retirement of the Baby Boomers? "We were in a better position to deal with the Medicare changes that were coming," Stan Collender, a leading expert on the U.S. budget process who has run federal budget policy for two major international accounting firms told The Lookout. "Certainly the resources existed [thanks to the surplus] that don't exist now."

Of course, the budget gap widened quickly from there, starting with the $1.5 trillion Bush tax cuts of 2001. Plenty of other budget-busting developments also played a role--including the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the economic downturn and attendant hit to tax revenue.
All in all, Collender said, Obama's assessment is "absolutely accurate." So for the first time in the short history of Closer Look, we're going to give this claim our highest accuracy rating: airtight

Hmmmm...every damned last one of those issues...the tax cuts of 2001, the Medicare rx plan, the two wars, the global recession, and lack of tax revenue...EACH AND EVERY ONE pinned DIRECTLY and ONLY on the GOP.

[Saint John]

From Dancheck.com:

Clinton's "economy" and "budget surplus" was off of the back of the dotcom boom. You know, that bullshit bubble of companies that were cooking the books right under his nose. That bubble formed from 1995-2000, with the NASDAQ peaking at 5,132 on March 10, 2000 (it's only at 2,764 11 years later). The Stock Market Crash of 2000-2002 caused the loss of $5 trillion in the market value of companies from March 2000 to October 2002.

You wanna put the first two years of Obama's presidency of the Bush administration, fine. But you have to readily accept Bin Laden and the dotcom meltdown as Clinton's mess. He did nothing about either for years and years. Nothing. Advantage-Bush. You're dismissed.

[Seven Wishes2]

Clinton's Republican Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, described Clinton as vigorously trying to get bin Laden. Cohen told the 9/11 Commission that "President Clinton and his entire national security team devoted an extraordinary amount of time and effort to coping with the threat."

Clinton warned President George W. Bush before he left office in 2001 that Osama bin Laden was the biggest security threat the United States faced.

Clinton said he discussed security issues with Bush in his "exit interview," a formal and often candid meeting between a sitting president and the president-elect.

"In his campaign, Bush had said he thought the biggest security issue was Iraq and a national missile defence," Clinton said. "I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden."

Clinton did leave an anti-terror strategy, put together by Clarke and his staff in apaper entitled "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al Qida: Status and Prospects." It was conveyed to the incoming Bush Administration in January 2001.

[S2M]

Send a few dozen of these Hollywood papparazzi jackoffs over to Pakistan....Bin Laden will be found.

[RedWingFan]

Clinton said. "I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden."

He also SAID he "never had a sexual relationship with that woman."

Dude's a convicted liar. Remember?

[Seven Wishes2]

Cunnilingus Rice admitted as much in her book - verifying the meeting took place.

Wackos like Paul Ryan are forfeiting the GOP's chance at taking all three chambers in 2012. They've pretty much just pissed away the senior vote. Of course, the true authors of Ryan's bill are at The Heritage Foundation - an extremely non-partis­an think tank funded by (who else) The Koch Brothers, Exxon Mobile and Altria (formerly Phillip Morris). Hmmmmm...

Meanwhile, YOUR party's policies have exclusively contributed to 90% of the deficit and you go on merrily whistling like Beaver Cleaver. Because of the GOP, America is starting to look like a third world country that is being run by an oligarchy hell-bent on making the rich richer and phasing out the middle class (which ideally has 90% of the purchasing power during economic prosperity).

The Bush tax cuts actually cost even more than two and a half times the cost of the health care plan if one accounts for inflation between the 2001-2010 period (when the Bush tax cuts were in effect) and the 2010-2019 period (the first decade in which the House Democrats' health care plan would be in effect).

Per the CBO, the tax legislation enacted under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2006 cost $2.48 trillion over the 2001-2010 period - including the revenue loss of $2.11 trillion that results directly from the Bush tax cuts as well as the $379 billion in additional interest payments on the national debt that we must make since the tax cuts were deficit-financed. Unemployment doubled under Bush's watch. There was NO trickle-down effect. As far as increasing economic growth and family income, the middle classes' wages failed to rise for the first time in the four decades that the Census Bureau has been keeping track .

[Ehwmatt]

Cunnilingus Rice

LOL! Classic.

[verslibre]

Clinton said. "I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden."

He also SAID he "never had a sexual relationship with that woman."

Dude's a convicted liar. Remember?

Wasn't Shrub a coke'r and a lush and had also had an affair during his governorship? I'm equally anti-Dem and anti-Repub, I just find it funny that it's never brought up.

[Seven Wishes2]

Bait and switch tactics again. Trying to throw the dogs off the scent. Anyway, it's brought up far more often than any of Bush's many, many shortcomings.

[RedWingFan]

Clinton said. "I told him that in my opinion, the biggest security problem was Osama bin Laden."

He also SAID he "never had a sexual relationship with that woman."

Dude's a convicted liar. Remember?

Wasn't Shrub a coke'r and a lush and had also had an affair during his governorship? I'm equally anti-Dem and anti-Repub, I just find it funny that it's never brought up.

He never lied about it in front of a Federal Grand Jury. I did stupid stuff when I was young too, who hasn't?

[verslibre]

The other guy never got a subpoena.

[Seven Wishes2]

History will show Bush Jr. to be unequiovocally the worst President of the past 235 years, and in particular the GOP policies of this past decade to be the worst since Hooverism nearly destroyed America in the 20's.