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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:44 am

YoungJRNY wrote:John even seems like the kind of nutbag like me when discussing the game.


Guilty as charged. I fucking live for football...NFL football. College football fucking blows and the most embarrassing sport on the planet with their bullshit ranking systems. A bunch of fucking pussies who can't decide who should win a championship without a fucking computer :shock:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:48 am

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Very rarely does the Steelers secondary get beat deep with a pass 20 yards or more downfield. The Steelers corners are designed to keep the yardage in front of them, and they WILL give up those yards, but coming up and being a great tackler is key so we don't give up Y.A.C.


Sorry dude, but some of your babblings make it sound like you know nothing about football. You need to pull the Steelers dildo out of your ass and get back to reality :shock: Just because a team doesn't get beat down the field (and Pittsburgh is barely in the top 10 in that category, so they're not as great as you claim they are) doesn't mean they have great corners. The reality is that the Steelers front 7 puts more pressure on the QB than any other front 7 in football. You can have the shittiest corners on the planet and not give up big plays if the opposing QB has no time to throw the ball down the field. It's interesting to note that in spite of how great you thing the Steelers secondary is, they are ranked 24th against the pass out of 32 teams. Just for perspective, the Patriots secondary is awful, and they're 29th against the pass.


I don't claim the Steelers have great corners (if there is a weak spot, it IS the secondary because of the amount of blitz's dialed up) because like I said, our defense is designed to give up the yards in front and we play back as a coverage unit and are asked to come up and make a tackle and not let Y.A.C. You're pretty much proving my point when you say the front 7 puts more pressure than any other team in football, to which I said in my earlier post. If the Steelers don't get the pressure that the defense is designed to give, then the corners suffer because they are left one on one on an island. In Week 1, Roddy White had 11 catches for a huge amount of yardage, but never got behind our corners for that matter and that played a huge part in how the game played out because the Steelers are one of the best red-zone defense's in the league and clamp down on a short field. Even though we give up the outsides and short dump offs, we have some great run stopping corners and great form tacklers in open field so it all goes hand in hand.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:57 am

Great article I just came across and exactly proves my point in our philosophy as a defense:

Steelers holding up Steel Curtain Tradition:

Run defense is a true team effort for the Steelers. While Timmons gets most of the stuffs, everyone gets involved in making sure that four-yard runs don't become 14-yarders. At Football Outsiders, we credit a defender with a "success" if he makes a tackle after a short gain. The Steelers have three defenders with more than 20 successes on runs — Timmons (34), James Harrison (24) and James Farrior (23) — and five other defenders with seven or more. Only Timmons is among the league leaders, but defensive stats can be counterintuitive; teams abandon the run so quickly against the Steelers that their defenders don't get to rack up huge numbers.

The pain of containment: Once opponents take to the air, they expose their quarterbacks to a defense that has already recorded 20 sacks and 10 interceptions. But opponents also complete 67.2 percent of their passes against the Steelers and average 240 passing yards per game, the ninth highest figure in the NFL. Are these signs of vulnerability?

Not really. When the Steelers blitz they usually assign their cornerbacks and a safety (usually Ryan Clark, so Polamalu can blitz or do something crafty) to three-deep zone coverage. That means each defender is expected to drop back and keep the receiver in front of him. Pittsburgh fans are sometimes frustrated when Ike Taylor or William Gay allows an easy 10-yard completion, but those completions are residue of the team philosophy. If they give up a few 10-yarders, so be it. Just don't allow a bomb, because the blitz will eventually get to the quarterback if he keeps dropping to throw short passes.


The containment policy has worked for the Steelers for years, and it has been business as usual this season. Opponents have thrown for 20 or more yards just 23 times this year. Even that total is inflated: it includes seven 20-yard gains in the fourth quarters of blowouts against the Titans, Browns, Bengals and Buccaneers. That leaves 16 long gains in meaningful situations — remarkable, considering that the Steelers have faced Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, the Terrell Owens-Chad Ochocinco experience, and the bomb-hurling Joe Flacco.

What about that high completion percentage? If you guessed that teams complete a lot of low-protein screens against the Steelers, you are correct; the Steelers have allowed 68 completions of five yards or less. Gay, Taylor, and Bryant McFadden have combined to make 24 tackles on those short completions. A list of the receivers they have held to minimal gains on quick passes — Roddy White, Lance Moore, Marques Colston, Brandon Marshall, Terrell Owens and Derrick Mason, among others — shows how well the three-deep principle works for the Steelers.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40088639/ns/sports-nfl/
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:28 pm

Good article. Pretty much what I expect when I said it will be interesting to see the chess match since the Steelers give away the short yardage dump routes while the Patriots make a living off of that kind of offensive exposure.

Patriots' Brady Dominates Steelers:

No secret the Steelers are owned by Irishmen, family name Rooney. There is another Irishman who owns the Steelers. His name is Tom Brady.

For all its ferociousness and stinginess and high rankings through the years, the Steelers' defense has been putty in Brady's hands whenever he and his New England Patriots get the good fortune of playing them.

Brady has won five of six games he has started against the Steelers, beginning with the 2001 AFC championship game. The only time he lost to them came in the middle of the '04 season when he brought his Patriots to Heinz Field riding an NFL-record 21-game unbeaten streak. Even then, he exacted revenge by returning for the AFC title game and whupping them in Heinz Field, 41-27, on way to his third Super Bowl title in four years.

The Steelers had to wait until Brady was sidelined with an injury to beat the Patriots again, in '08 when Matt Cassell quarterbacked New England.

Sunday night, Brady returns for another visit and another big game between two of the NFL's best teams, both atop their divisions at 6-2.

"I would think that any defensive coordinator, if he was being honest on the week he was playing Brady, would say this is not a good matchup," said Dick LeBeau, the Steelers' defensive coordinator.

"We think it will be good on good. If we execute our defense, it'll be difficult for them to consistently go down the field all the way. I think that's true of any offense -- if we execute consistently. But we fully recognize who we're playing against, and his track record's pretty good."

Better than that. Brady has the best winning percentage of any quarterback in the league at .763 (103-32). It's even better against the Steelers at .833.

His performance in those six games comes to 143 completions in 213 attempt for 1,658 yards, 11 touchdowns, 5 interceptions and a 97.9 passer rating.

But the Steelers did beat him, even if only once. In that '04 game, Brady completed 25 of 43 passes for 271 yards and 2 touchdowns. But he threw two interceptions, was sacked four times, and turnovers played a big role in the Steelers' 34-20 victory.

"They were a good football team and we were on the rise and just happened to catch them that day," said Chris Hoke, who started his first game at nose tackle for injured Casey Hampton and caused a key fumble.

"I think they have a different philosophy now; they have that little Wes Welker thing now going on, where if they can't run the football, they throw little dumps to Wes Welker, little dinks and dunks. When we played up there a couple years ago, they went to a spread offense with one back and kept dumping the ball to Welker; it was a run option.

"I think that's kind of their blueprint. If they can't run the ball against us, they say we'll just spread you out and throw little 5 yards and see if Welker can break it out for 6, 7, 8 yards."

Brady no longer has the deep threat he had with Randy Moss. Welker, who leads the Patriots with 44 receptions, averages only 8.1 yards a catch, which is a good day for a running back.

Because no one has been able to run on the Steelers and their pass defense cannot say as much, the Patriots can be expected to do their thing, which is throw the dinks and the dunks. The Steelers' pass defense has been content to let offenses do that while preventing the deep pass.

That should make for an interesting mesh of philosophies Sunday night -- a defense content to let the offense throw short passes and an offense willing to do so.

"He's always been a control passer -- use the short pass for a run and then play-action and hit you deep," LeBeau explained. "He's never been just a wild horse, sit back and throw the ball 50 times 40 yards up field. That's why his deep throws have probably been as effective or more effective than most. I don think it's a change in philosophy."

Safety Troy Polamalu remembers a change, though, from one game to another with Brady in 2004, and he expects to see the formula that won it for the Patriots to return.

"In order for them to have success against us, they'll have to be a little more balanced than people might anticipate," Polamalu said.

"Against us the first time we beat them in 2004, they came out and tried to just pass the ball and we forced turnovers. But the second time they were a lot more balanced. That's what we kind of anticipate them being, more balanced.''

Maybe, but the history of Tom Brady vs. the Steelers has been anything but balanced.


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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:30 am

..and the injuries continue to amount for the Steelers. Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel looks to have that season long, nagging hamstring injury bother him so he's out once again. Now, outside linebaker James Harrison is questionable and might not play with a back injury. Good thing we have some stout backers in our system, so if Harrison doesn't play, look for Middle Linebacker Larry Foote to share inside duties with James Farrior, and move Lawrence Timmons on the outside if Harrison can't go.
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Postby S2M » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:38 am

YoungJRNY wrote:..and the injuries continue to amount for the Steelers. Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel looks to have that season long, nagging hamstring injury bother him so he's out once again. Now, outside linebaker James Harrison is questionable and might not play with a back injury. Good thing we have some stout backers in our system, so if Harrison doesn't play, look for Middle Linebacker Larry Foote to share inside duties with James Farrior, and move Lawrence Timmons on the outside if Harrison can't go.


I'm thinking your Fortress Of Solitude might morph into a rubber room and come with a jacket that fastens in the back after tomorrow night.... :lol: :lol:

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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:53 am

S2M wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:..and the injuries continue to amount for the Steelers. Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel looks to have that season long, nagging hamstring injury bother him so he's out once again. Now, outside linebaker James Harrison is questionable and might not play with a back injury. Good thing we have some stout backers in our system, so if Harrison doesn't play, look for Middle Linebacker Larry Foote to share inside duties with James Farrior, and move Lawrence Timmons on the outside if Harrison can't go.


I'm thinking your Fortress Of Solitude might morph into a rubber room and come with a jacket that fastens in the back after tomorrow night.... :lol: :lol:

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Haha! That image might not be that far from the truth. I have confidence since the Steelers have a helluva bench and our backups are capable of playing just as well but mistakes must be limited even more so than ever now, esp since the Pats make you earn every victory if you are going to go over them since they play smart football for 4 QRTS.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:20 am

YoungJRNY wrote:..and the injuries continue to amount for the Steelers. Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel looks to have that season long, nagging hamstring injury bother him so he's out once again. Now, outside linebaker James Harrison is questionable and might not play with a back injury. Good thing we have some stout backers in our system, so if Harrison doesn't play, look for Middle Linebacker Larry Foote to share inside duties with James Farrior, and move Lawrence Timmons on the outside if Harrison can't go.


Dude...stop whining about injuries. I've said it before and I'll say it again...It's football in November. EVERYONE is hurt. Hell, the Patriots have had plenty of guys hurt. The difference between the Patriots and most other teams is that nobody even knows which foot Brady sprained because they simply don't spend time talking about injuries. I can tell you this....I haven't heard ANY football media types (including all of them in Boston) pick the Patriots tomorrow night, even with all of those Pittsburgh injuries, and I'm not picking them either. Pittsburgh should win this game by a TD and to be honest with you, I really don't even care, as long as the Patriots can beat them in January when it actually matters. One thing that I know for sure is this...Even though tomorrow's game will probably have playoff home field playoff implications, I am certain that no matter what happens tomorrow night that both of these teams will be there in the playoffs and they both have as good of a chance as any other team in the playoffs, because there is simply no dominant team in the NFL this season.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:54 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:..and the injuries continue to amount for the Steelers. Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel looks to have that season long, nagging hamstring injury bother him so he's out once again. Now, outside linebaker James Harrison is questionable and might not play with a back injury. Good thing we have some stout backers in our system, so if Harrison doesn't play, look for Middle Linebacker Larry Foote to share inside duties with James Farrior, and move Lawrence Timmons on the outside if Harrison can't go.


Dude...stop whining about injuries. I've said it before and I'll say it again...It's football in November. EVERYONE is hurt. Hell, the Patriots have had plenty of guys hurt. The different between the Patriots and most other teams is that nobody even knows which foot Brady sprained because they simply don't spend time talking about injuries. I can tell you this....I haven't heard ANY football media types (including all of them in Boston) pick the Patriots tomorrow night, even with all of those Pittsburgh injuries, and I'm not picking them either. Pittsburgh should win this game by a TD and to be honest with you, I really don't even care, as long as the Patriots can beat them in January when it actually matters. One thing that I know for sure is this...Even though tomorrow's game will probably have playoff home field playoff implications, I am certain that no matter what happens tomorrow night that both of these teams will be there in the playoffs and they both have as good of a chance as any other team in the playoffs, because there is simply no dominant team in the NFL this season.


Not whining, just stating. I'm confident in our bench players to stand up and perform. Through the years, the Steelers have had some key players go down with injury only for someone else to step up and own the role so I'm cool with it and understand no team is at 100% in November. The Steelers have had some high profile players bite the dust recenltly in droves but I'm not worried about it. I've seen depth come into play every season so it's nothing new. I'm just saying that if the Steelers lose Harrison Sunday, then that adds more to the long list of high profile players for Pittsburgh. All Steelers injuries are significant starters is my point, but there's a reason why there's depth. Critics have been harsh on the Steelers bench players because we have one of the most oldest teams in the NFL, esp on the defensive side of the ball so losing these guys is a blow. New England is a team that doesn't make too much mistakes, so the Steelers HAVE to pretty much play a mistake free game to win this one IMHO.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:22 pm

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All Steelers injuries are significant starters is my point


So what. The Patriots start more rookies than anyone in the NFL and have had to roll in a new kicker and a new long snapper who will be playing for the first time tomorrow night. Every team has issues. I know you're looking to award the Steelers a purple heart for being so courageous but you sound like Lou Fucking Holtz back when he coached Notre Dame and claimed that every team in the country should beat his team (which back then was always a top ten team)!

YoungJRNY wrote: the Steelers HAVE to pretty much play a mistake free game to win this one


Apparently, you're the one guy in the country picked the Patriots to win this game and thinking the Steelers have no shot. Fucking hilarious. Do me a favor and watch the pregame shows tomorrow. Let me know how many guys pick the Patriots to win. I suspect that when all of those shows are over, you'll still be the only guy picking them :shock:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:33 pm

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All Steelers injuries are significant starters is my point


So what. The Patriots start more rookies than anyone in the NFL and have had to roll in a new kicker and a new long snapper who will be playing for the first time tomorrow night. Every team has issues. I know you're looking to award the Steelers a purple heart for being so courageous but you sound like Lou Fucking Holtz back when he coached Notre Dame and claimed that every team in the country should beat his team (which back then was always a top ten team)!

YoungJRNY wrote: the Steelers HAVE to pretty much play a mistake free game to win this one


Apparently, you're the one guy in the country picked the Patriots to win this game and thinking the Steelers have no shot. Fucking hilarious. Do me a favor and watch the pregame shows tomorrow. Let me know how many guys pick the Patriots to win. I suspect that when all of those shows are over, you'll still be the only guy picking them :shock:


Dude, you're hard to read and is putting words in my mouth. I understand what's going on and just stating that the significant injuries the Steelers have to endure this week with a HUGE showdown with New England coming in this game at Heinz Field. I'm simply stating, not whining and not awarding anyone any purple hearts, I just think it's worthy that some of the Steelers injuries that has been suffered this week could have a major influence on how the game is played, that's all. The Patriots are 6-2, and the Steelers are 6-2. The Steelers have had one son of a bitchen time against the Patriots because the matchup will probably see Tom Brady spread us out, so I can guarantee that I'm not the "only one" in Pittsburgh or anywhere else for that matter who thinks N.E has an advantage coming into this game, esp N.E coming off of a loss and Tom Brady's W-L record against Steelers personal. I don't really give a rats ass who picks the Steelers tomorrow night within the "critics." It's going to be a very tough matchup for the Steelers to man up against and I can almost guarantee that those "critics" you speak of will probably be 50-50 with this game since it's a very high profile game for both teams going in.

Funny how you're telling me that I give the Steelers no chance of winning (which I clearly haven't, just respecting a team like the Patriots of what they bring to the table) but it's you who automatically thinks the Patriots are victim and have no shot at winning this game along with "pre-game critics" and seem to be thinking the same thing I'm thinking when it comes to the machup. You think the Steelers should win by a TD and I'm thinking if the Pats play their game and play mistake free, then they could edge this out by atleast 6 points or so, so our thought process isn't really off when scrutinizing our own teams. I respect N.E and what they do as a football team and think it'll be a hard fought game. What's to question that thought process with a big of a showdown as this with two 6-2 teams?
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:40 pm

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it's you who automatically thinks the Patriots are victim and have no shot at winning this game


A couple of points...I don't think the Patriots are a "victim" and you'll NEVER hear me say that ANY team in the NFL has "no shot of winning". Hell, I've picked the Buffalo Bills to win this season, so that should tell you that I don't subscribe to that theory. If the Patriots play like they played last week, they won't beat a Pop Warner team. I simply think the Steelers are the better team and should win this game. It's not really any more complicated than that.

YoungJRNY wrote:What's to question that thought process with a big of a showdown as this with two 6-2 teams?


It's really not questioning your thought process. It's you pulling the whole Brett Favre pussy act (which he does every week) and talks about how banged up he is so he has a built in excuse if he loses and if he wins, he'll be the first to point out..."I don't know how I ever managed to pull that off. I'm fucking amazing, aren't I". It's simply puke-inducing to me and always has been as a football fan. You didn't hear me say a single word when Brady snapped his knee in half two years ago in the first game of the season and the Patriots were forced to play an entire season with Matt Fucking Cassel, and I can't think of a better excuse to suck than losing Tom Brady. I do agree that this should be a good game. I'll be somewhat surprised if either team loses by more than a TD, unlike you, who claims that it should be "6 points or more". I think Pittsburgh has considerably more talent than New England has on the defensive side of the ball and at many other positions. In all honesty, the Patriots are only superior at QB, coach, and offensive line (even before all of the Steelers linemen got hurt), so on paper, the Steelers should win by 4 TD's but I think the Patriots are too tough of a team to allow that to happen.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:46 pm

I think Pittsburgh has considerably more talent than New England has on the defensive side of the ball and at many other positions. In all honesty, the Patriots are only superior at QB, coach, and offensive line (even before all of the Steelers linemen got hurt), so on paper, the Steelers should win by 4 TD's but I think the Patriots are too tough of a team to allow that to happen.


That's the highlighted scenario and statement for me and that's all that I need to know. In all of the New England beat downs they gave Pittsburgh over the years in big time games, I truly believe that the Steelers out-matched the Pats "talent wise" each time & it wasn't even close (New England beat us @ our homefield TWICE in the Title Game) but that really didn't mean that big of a damn difference now did it? Having more "talent" doesn't necc mean you will out right win a football team. If that's the case, the Washington Redskins should have 15 Super Bowl rings by now and the Cowboys and Chargers should have been playing in the Superbowl the past 6 years. Talent is talent, but that doesn't decide football games, which brings me to your next point.


In all honesty, the Patriots are only superior at QB, coach, and offensive line


You say you are superior at QB, OL, and COACHING. Coaching is important, and we all know what kind of a coach Bellicheat* is. In all of those wins he has against Pitt with his N.E tenure, he didn't out match Pitt with talent, but he out-coached them to death and the result was on the wall. That's my concern the most. Bellicheat might not beat us with talent vs talent, but he can sure out-wit & out coach us. We'll see, should be a great game.

On another note: Who else is looking forward to Faith Hill's "Sunday Night Football" pre-game video? Man, what a babe. That chick knows how to serve the wood! :shock:
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:28 am

Detroit at Buffalo - I don't believe either of these teams is as bad as their records show they are. I like Buffalo to end their pathetic streak and win this game 3-2 :shock:

Minnesota at Chicago - Minnesota gets their second win in a row

NY Jets at Cleveland - The Jets are VERY beatable and Cleveland is on a roll. That said, I think their streak ends at 2 and the Jets win a close game by a FG

Carolina at Tampa Bay - Carolina is the worse team in the NFL. Tampa by 14

Houston at Jacksonville - Two 4-4 teams battling it out. Houston should be a whole lot better than they are but they continue to be a team with zero identity and no consistency. I still like the Texans to pull this out by a TD

Cincinnati at Indianapolis - The Indianapolis Mannings need to wake the fuck up because if they playoffs started today, they wouldn't be in. The bottom line is that Carson Palmer sucks and so do the Bungles. Mannings by 14.

Tennessee at Miami - I think Miami is going to look like a very different team with Pennington under center. Guy is the classic "game manager". Tennessee becomes more formidable with Randy Moss on their team. Chris Johnson will have a whole lot more space to run the ball because opposing defenses can no longer stack the box against Johnson. Titans by 10.

Kansas City at Denver - Still not sold on KC but Denver blows. Chiefs by 4.

Dallas at NY Giants - I'm not sure I've had a more enjoyable season watching NFL football thanks to that complete fraud of a team in Dallas. I hate the Jets and I hate Shitsburgh but there isn't a team in the NFL I enjoy watching lose more than the Cowgirls. Giants by 17.

Seattle at Arizona - Tough call on this one. Two very mediocre teams. Seabags by 3.

St. Louis at San Francisco - The Rams are in first place and the 49'ers suck. I still like SF to win a close game.

New England at Pittsburgh - The Patriots need to come out with 5 wide sets for most of the game to have any shot of winning this game. The Steelers simply cannot be run against and I think it's a huge mistake to even try. As great as their defense is against the run, it's merely average against the pass. If I'm honest, the Steelers have the more talented team. Although that doesn't always mean a victory, they also have the home field advantage. I believe the talent along with the home field translates to a 7 point win for the Steelers. See you in January!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:27 am

Detroit at Buffalo - Buffalo might be the best 0-8 team I've ever seen. Giving some major contenders a run for their money for 8 weeks now. They won't go 0-16, no way so this is the week I like Buffalo to get off their snide, even though backup QB for the Lions Shaun Hill is capable. Could be a shootout. Bills by 10.

Minnesota at Chicago - Minnesota should start to catch fire and could rebound. That comeback from behind victory and the way Favre played last week is something the Vikings can atleast hang their hats on when talking comebacks. The Bears will be a stiff opponent on the road, but I like the Vikes by 6.

NY Jets at Cleveland - Last week, I said a game like the Jets played last week defines seasons, so I think they continue their playoff push. Cleveland comes back down to reality this week. All of a sudden, Cleveland is a team to watch. Jets by 13.


Carolina at Tampa Bay - Carolina is BY FAR the worst team in the league and doesn't really deserve a writeup to go any further. Tampa Bay remains one of the leagues surprise's. Tampa by 21.

Houston at Jacksonville - The Texans lst 4 games are determined with a 1-3 record during that stretch, so this is a HUGE WEEK within the division for both teams to put up or shutup. There's been no stronger pretenders in the league than these two teams. I like Shaub and the Texans to still make a statement in the South. Texans by 14.

Cincinnati at Indianapolis - The Bengals are bad and Manning and the Colts have certainly got the Bungles number. Peyton is 6-0 against the Bengals lifetime and this will be a big mis-match not only on the field, but class as well. Indy by 20.

Tennessee at Miami - Kerry Collins is getting the nod at QB for the Titans, so he should give Moss a good rhyming passing day on the outside. Noodle arm Chad Pennington takes over AGAIN for the disappointing Chad Henne so with that said, I like the Titans in this one because I believe they have too many weapons to defend and have the better backup QB. Titans by 8.


Kansas City at Denver - KC is going to drop one sooner or later, and have been mighty impressive, esp at home and on defense, but they get a Broncos team, coming off the bye desperate for a win at Mile High. Broncos by 3.



Dallas at NY Giants - Dallas has quit as of late, and the Giants are the best team in the NFC and possibly the NFL. Giants by 21.

Seattle at Arizona - The Cards played Minny tough last week and lost by a miracle in #4. Seattle is a team like the Jaguars or Texans. Who are they really? Cardinals by 10.

St. Louis at San Francisco - Sam Bradford keeps riding high in St. Louis. Troy Smith adds a spark for the 9'ers, but the Rams are a better overall team BY FAR. Rams by 14.

New England at Pittsburgh - It's sloppy in Pittsburgh, and everyone thinks it's going to be somewhat of a shootout. I'm calling the complete opposite. The Pats should spread Pittsburgh's D out and the Steelers should test their run game against a so-so "no name" defense but looking at the deciding factor a little closer, I think this game could possibly be won on Special Teams, and Brandon Tate is T-O-U-G-H. Because of that X-factor, I like N.E by 6.

Monday Night:

Eagles @ Redskins: All of a sudden, McNabb is being signed to a big, new extension! What the hell is going on here? Could it be hype and confidence for their QB because the Skins need this win big in the division and they need McNabb more than ever? Maybe, but the way Vick is playing, the dude is a straight up baller right now and the Eagles could make their bid for one of the best teams in the NFC alongside the Giants. Philly by 10.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:36 am

You didn't hear me say a single word when Brady snapped his knee in half two years ago in the first game of the season and the Patriots were forced to play an entire season with Matt Fucking Cassel, and I can't think of a better excuse to suck than losing Tom Brady.


Interesting. Re-reading over this statement, you might have not said a word, but didn't you preach on how the Patriots were out of commission officially done in Week 1 when Brady went down and no way, no how they could ever win or compete with Matt "fucking" Cassel playing quarterback and that they were no better than a 8-9 win team at best, only to see them win 11 games with him under the helm? :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:51 am

YoungJRNY wrote:didn't you preach on how the Patriots were out of commission officially done in Week 1 when Brady went down and no way, no how they could ever win or compete with Matt "fucking" Cassel playing quarterback and that they were no better than a 8-9 win team at best, only to see them win 11 games with him under the helm? :lol:


You bet I did! I'm fairly certain that I wasn't the only one stunned by the fact that the Patriots won 11 games with Cassel at the helm. I still can't believe they managed to do that and it was 3 years ago!
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Postby S2M » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:28 am

Manpenis has no balls...should've went for two-point conversion at the end of regulation...
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:38 am

S2M wrote:Manpenis has no balls...should've went for two-point conversion in the.


dang that was a tough game !! ive really been watching the Browns since Colt McCoy has been

getting playing time... Browns looking good!

should the defense have caught that forth down interception 50 yards down on the 2 ???
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:46 am

Anyone see that poor fool for the Texans?

I know defensive backs are taught to knock down jump balls, but the ball was headed right for his bread basket.

Instead he bats the ball back into the field of play where a bunch of players are. A Jag catches it for a touchdown.

Way to be aware of your surroundings dude! :lol:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:22 am

dang ,,!! total power failure at the Meadowlands .. holy cow..
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:24 am

RedWingFan wrote:Anyone see that poor fool for the Texans?

I know defensive backs are taught to knock down jump balls, but the ball was headed right for his bread basket.

Instead he bats the ball back into the field of play where a bunch of players are. A Jag catches it for a touchdown.

Way to be aware of your surroundings dude! :lol:


yea .. but what are the chances?? 8)
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:52 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:dang ,,!! total power failure at the Meadowlands .. holy cow..


You just know the Giants are going to come back and steal this one.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:54 am

John from Boston- I just want to head you off at the pass- OG got royally fucked today. He is officially responsible for three picks, however, two were because his goddamned receivers "slipped." He deserved better than what AP and Shincoe gave him. He needs Rice back. To me, the OG was the only guy who came to play today. I'd like to see him go Dan Marino and get in someon'es grill on the sidelines. On another note, Chilly may be packing his gear up tonight.
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Postby Everett » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:57 am

RedWingFan wrote:Anyone see that poor fool for the Texans?

I know defensive backs are taught to knock down jump balls, but the ball was headed right for his bread basket.

Instead he bats the ball back into the field of play where a bunch of players are. A Jag catches it for a touchdown.

Way to be aware of your surroundings dude! :lol:


That was hilarious :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:08 am

Rockindeano wrote:John from Boston- I just want to head you off at the pass- OG got royally fucked today. He is officially responsible for three picks, however, two were because his goddamned receivers "slipped." He deserved better than what AP and Shincoe gave him. He needs Rice back. To me, the OG was the only guy who came to play today. I'd like to see him go Dan Marino and get in someon'es grill on the sidelines. On another note, Chilly may be packing his gear up tonight.


Come on Dean. The dude's QB rating was 44.5, which is fucking putrid. Listen, I get it...you love the dude. I'm confident that someday you'll look back and realize that this guy was all style and no substance. As I've said before, the "legend" doesn't match the player. I agree that Childress is toast. I think he would have been fired last weekend had they not won. The only thing that would cap off this Vikings season for me would be to see that fucking fraud quit and go back to driving his tractor.
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Postby Don » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:12 am

Zygi Wilf says Chilly ain't done yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5806520
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:14 am

RedWingFan wrote:Anyone see that poor fool for the Texans?

I know defensive backs are taught to knock down jump balls, but the ball was headed right for his bread basket.

Instead he bats the ball back into the field of play where a bunch of players are. A Jag catches it for a touchdown.

Way to be aware of your surroundings dude! :lol:


Funny thing is, is that the dude had a clear shot, with noone even around him for a jump ball, for an INTERCEPTION in the endzone. You're taught to "knock it down" of coarse, but that's more for a jumpball with 18 guys around the ball, haha. This dude had the right idea, but failed miserably into not thinking to just catch the damn thing to force OT. Instead, he's the goat of the season thus far!
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:23 am

Don wrote:Zygi Wilf says Chilly ain't done yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5806520


Right, and that jackass Jerry Jones said the same thing about Wade Phillips every week before he fired the guy!
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:29 am

Rockindeano wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:dang ,,!! total power failure at the Meadowlands .. holy cow..


You just know the Giants are going to come back and steal this one.


:lol: ,, everyone felt it .. Giants did get ripped off and got a touchdown called back on , what looked

like a bogus call.. WERE BACK!!!!! 2 wins.. :mrgreen:
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