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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:12 am

Fact Finder wrote:Check this shit out..

The reauthorization of the State Children's Health Insurance Program includes massive tax increases on cigarettes, cigars and other tobacco products. Similar bills were vetoed twice by President George W. Bush in part because of the tax increases. Democrats in the House and Senate have voted overwhelmingly for the tax increases each time the bill was proposed and were joined by a handful of Republicans.

The bill Obama will sign today raises the federal tax on a pack of cigarettes by 62 cents (or $6.20 per carton) bringing the federal tax to $1.01 per pack.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was quoted by the AP as saying of the bill signing, ""It's going to be a happy day for America."

A Heritage Foundation analysis of the bill reported that even with the massive tax increases, 22 million new smokers will be needed to pay for the expansion of SCHIP.

Obama is scheduled to hold a public signing ceremony at 4:30 P.M. today.





We fucking need 22 million new smokers to pay for this....you can't make this shit up! :lol: :lol: :lol:


no we dont we just need 628,571 people like this ........


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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:12 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Here's a solution: QUIT. :lol: :lol:


Here's a solution: Worry about what concerns you! :D :idea:
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:14 am

You know how they say "Irony is so ironic"? I said up a bit that "you can't make this shit up", in regards to 22 million new smokers needed to pay for that bill. Lo and behold I continue my daily surfing and up comes this shit....


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... 1&catnum=0

Economic fears snuff out smoking bans

Feb 4 02:36 PM US/Eastern
By KRISTEN WYATT
Associated Press Writer

DENVER (AP) - In this economy, lawmakers are more willing to let people smoke 'em if they got 'em.

As recently as last year, many states and major cities seemed ready to adopt complete indoor smoking bans. But the movement to kick all smokers outdoors has stalled as the recession worsens and lawmakers fear hurting business at bars, restaurants and casinos.

"This economy, it creates a little more sympathy for the business person. So when we say this is going to put us out of business, believe me, they're listening," said Mike Moser, executive director of the Wyoming State Liquor Association.

Twenty-three states, as well as Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico, have indoor smoking bans covering bars and restaurants. No one else has adopted a ban in the early weeks of this year's legislative sessions.

In Colorado, lawmakers are considering easing the rules after they banned smoking in most bars, restaurants and casinos.

New Jersey put off a smoking ban for Atlantic City casinos after five of 11 casinos warned they could file for bankruptcy by year's end. In Virginia, a proposed statewide ban stalled this year after lawmakers expressed concern about the economy.

Moser's group opposes an indoor smoking ban that has been offered in Wyoming. After businesses raised objections, state lawmakers last month exempted bars from the legislation.

In cities that have banned smoking in bars, "it's just killing them," said Mike Reid, owner of a wine bar in Casper. Reid voluntarily banned smoking in his bar, but opposes the forced ban as president of the liquor association.

"When someone builds a business with a clientele that smokes, they should be able to go in there and smoke," Reid said.

Health advocates are citing the economy to argue their side, too. With state budgets burdened by rising health care costs, banning smoking saves the government money in the long run, they say.

In Kansas, which has no statewide ban, advocates are circulating a new state health report predicting Kansas would save $20 million in health care costs the first year smoking is banned in bars and restaurants.

"This whole economic argument is hogwash, scientifically, but that doesn't mean it's not politically useful," said Dr. Stanton Glantz, director of the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco.

Glantz says reputable studies show indoor smoking bans do not hurt businesses, and he urged politicians to ignore complaints from bar owners that smoking bans will ruin them.

"There's a growing realization that tobacco control is good for business—all businesses except for the tobacco companies," Glantz said.

Health advocates also say the existing patchwork of tobacco regulations puts nonsmoking restaurants at an economic disadvantage in states such as South Carolina and Wyoming.

South Carolina Rep. Todd Rutherford, a Democrat who has proposed a statewide ban, said if lawmakers don't want to hurt any businesses, they "need to make this uniform."

But Virginia Delegate Tom Gear, a Republican, said other lawmakers oppose new smoking bans for the same reason.

"Why should government tell a business how to do business?" Gear said.

Virginia lawmakers also rejected two tobacco tax increases this year, in part because of hesitancy to raise taxes in a recession.

In Colorado, a bill expected to be introduced this session would make it easier for taverns and casinos to seek exemptions to the ban by being classified as cigar-tobacco bars.

The bill would undo a requirement that a business must have been in place since 2005 to get an exemption.

That change would mean all bars, bowling alleys and casinos in Colorado could set aside 25 percent of their space as smoking areas as long as they derive 5 percent of their annual income or $50,000 a year from tobacco sales. Patrons would have to buy tobacco products in-house before smoking.

Anti-smoking activists thought their yearslong effort to pass Colorado's ban was over.

"We thought we had moved on," said Stephanie Steinberg, chairwoman of a suburban Denver group called Smoke-Free Gaming. "Why are we going back in time and talking about reversing what we we're done to protect the health of so many people?"

Her group had planned to focus its lobbying efforts on Las Vegas this year but instead redeployed to Colorado, which banned smoking in bars and restaurants in 2007 and in casinos last year.

In Atlantic City, N.J., city officials banned smoking on casino floors for a single month last year, but they repealed the rule after casinos complained. A telephone poll released this week indicated public support for banning smoking at casinos dropped as the economy worsened.

"To say that people want to roll back smoking laws because of the economy, it's absurd," said Karen Blumenfeld, who runs the New Jersey Group Against Smoking Pollution. "We might as well roll back health codes because the economy's bad. Or repeal child-labor laws to make factories more profitable. It makes no sense."

Opponents of indoor bans insist they are not just blowing smoke about the economy.

In a recession, people tend to cut back on discretionary spending, "and the hospitality industry, whether it's a bar or a restaurant, is one of the first things to get pruned," Moser said.

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My fucking head is spinning, and oh my sides are splitting. :lol: My God people are ignorant, just stupid do gooders who are usually clueless. I'm loving this article and some dear friends of mine shall be reading it.
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Postby S2M » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:16 am

Rhiannon wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:Here's a solution: QUIT. :lol: :lol:


Here's a solution: Worry about what concerns you! :D :idea:


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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:25 am

Rhiannon wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Mrs. NIGGY is using this:

http://www.smokeanywhere.com/

It's amazing. The least it will do for you is drastically reduce the number of cigarettes you smoke. It delivers nicotine with no cancer causing agents. You inhale it like a cigatette but it's just vapor and nicotine. And there are different flavors.


I'm intrigued... hmm... thanks for sharing that Nig.


Your welcome. It pays for itself pretty quickly.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:32 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Mrs. NIGGY is using this:

http://www.smokeanywhere.com/

It's amazing. The least it will do for you is drastically reduce the number of cigarettes you smoke. It delivers nicotine with no cancer causing agents. You inhale it like a cigatette but it's just vapor and nicotine. And there are different flavors.


I'm intrigued... hmm... thanks for sharing that Nig.


Your welcome. It pays for itself pretty quickly.


My brother is going to try that now. Does she still want to smoke a real one? Or is she pretty successful at sticking to that? Do the cartridges you buy end up costing more than real cigarettes? I mean I guess for health reasons it makes it worth it if it is.
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:35 am

Alright, I need you Dems to 'splain this to me.

Congress passes the SCHIP Bill today, it's sent right over to the White House for signing by the President today. Right? Right?

Explain this to me:

Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/


Thanks in advance. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:39 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Mrs. NIGGY is using this:

http://www.smokeanywhere.com/

It's amazing. The least it will do for you is drastically reduce the number of cigarettes you smoke. It delivers nicotine with no cancer causing agents. You inhale it like a cigatette but it's just vapor and nicotine. And there are different flavors.


I'm intrigued... hmm... thanks for sharing that Nig.


Your welcome. It pays for itself pretty quickly.


My brother is going to try that now. Does she still want to smoke a real one? Or is she pretty successful at sticking to that? Do the cartridges you buy end up costing more than real cigarettes? I mean I guess for health reasons it makes it worth it if it is.


Each filter is equivalent to 2 packs of cigs. The filters cost $10 per box and there are 5 filters in a box. That's like paying $1 for a pack of cigs. The long white part is the battery that you charge up. It's pretty cool. And when she smokes it she exhales what looks like smoke for a second but it dissipates in about 2 seconds. And she smokes the vanilla ones so it smells good. No cancer, no stink, no yellow teeth. Fucking amazing invention.

However, she does like to smoke 1 or 2 real cigs a day. But most people use it to quit completely.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:43 am

NealIsGod wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Mrs. NIGGY is using this:

http://www.smokeanywhere.com/

It's amazing. The least it will do for you is drastically reduce the number of cigarettes you smoke. It delivers nicotine with no cancer causing agents. You inhale it like a cigatette but it's just vapor and nicotine. And there are different flavors.


I'm intrigued... hmm... thanks for sharing that Nig.


Your welcome. It pays for itself pretty quickly.


My brother is going to try that now. Does she still want to smoke a real one? Or is she pretty successful at sticking to that? Do the cartridges you buy end up costing more than real cigarettes? I mean I guess for health reasons it makes it worth it if it is.



Each filter is equivalent to 2 packs of cigs. The filters cost $10 per box and there are 5 filters in a box. That's like paying $1 for a pack of cigs. The long white part is the battery that you charge up. It's pretty cool. And when she smokes it she exhales what looks like smoke for a second but it dissipates in about 2 seconds. And she smokes the vanilla ones so it smells good. No cancer, no stink, no yellow teeth. Fucking amazing invention.

However, she does like to smoke 1 or 2 real cigs a day. But most people use it to quit completely.


I was with him when he got one yesterday, and it seemed really cool but then my mom and I wondered if it would really work or if it was a mistake. It's hard to trust a salesman :lol: It's good to hear someone say they use it, because I was leary. Hopefully he will quit after using it, but if not, the cutting down thing is a plus!
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:44 am

StevePerryHair wrote:I was with him when he got one yesterday, and it seemed really cool but then my mom and I wondered if it would really work or if it was a mistake. It's hard to trust a salesman :lol: It's good to hear someone say they use it, because I was leary. Hopefully he will quit after using it, but if not, the cutting down thing is a plus!


Yeah, I was skeptical too. But it was only $150 and if it didn't work it was going up on eBay. :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:46 am

NealIsGod wrote:Each filter is equivalent to 2 packs of cigs. The filters cost $10 per box and there are 5 filters in a box. That's like paying $1 for a pack of cigs. The long white part is the battery that you charge up. It's pretty cool. And when she smokes it she exhales what looks like smoke for a second but it dissipates in about 2 seconds. And she smokes the vanilla ones so it smells good. No cancer, no stink, no yellow teeth. Fucking amazing invention.


Do they have pizza flavored ones? :o :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:46 am

NealIsGod wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:I was with him when he got one yesterday, and it seemed really cool but then my mom and I wondered if it would really work or if it was a mistake. It's hard to trust a salesman :lol: It's good to hear someone say they use it, because I was leary. Hopefully he will quit after using it, but if not, the cutting down thing is a plus!


Yeah, I was skeptical too. But it was only $150 and if it didn't work it was going up on eBay. :lol:


:lol: He paid $100 for his starter kit, and the guy threw in an extra box of cartridges. I guess it was a fair deal then. I know there were different designs and choices, so he must have picked a cheaper one.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:54 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:I was with him when he got one yesterday, and it seemed really cool but then my mom and I wondered if it would really work or if it was a mistake. It's hard to trust a salesman :lol: It's good to hear someone say they use it, because I was leary. Hopefully he will quit after using it, but if not, the cutting down thing is a plus!


Yeah, I was skeptical too. But it was only $150 and if it didn't work it was going up on eBay. :lol:


:lol: He paid $100 for his starter kit, and the guy threw in an extra box of cartridges. I guess it was a fair deal then. I know there were different designs and choices, so he must have picked a cheaper one.


Yeah, he got a better deal than we did. We got some free cartridges too. Is he trying to quit or just cut down?
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:56 am

NealIsGod wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:I was with him when he got one yesterday, and it seemed really cool but then my mom and I wondered if it would really work or if it was a mistake. It's hard to trust a salesman :lol: It's good to hear someone say they use it, because I was leary. Hopefully he will quit after using it, but if not, the cutting down thing is a plus!


Yeah, I was skeptical too. But it was only $150 and if it didn't work it was going up on eBay. :lol:


:lol: He paid $100 for his starter kit, and the guy threw in an extra box of cartridges. I guess it was a fair deal then. I know there were different designs and choices, so he must have picked a cheaper one.


Yeah, he got a better deal than we did. We got some free cartridges too. Is he trying to quit or just cut down?


Hopefully quit, but he's tried before, so we'll see. Even cutting down seems good though!
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:38 pm

:lol: :lol:

Dean...please...is this what you expected....OH MY!

WASHINGTON -- The White House's nominee for Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Leon Panetta, has earned more than $700,000 in speaking and consulting fees since the beginning of 2008, with some of the payments coming from troubled financial firms and from a firm that invests in contractors for federal national security agencies, according to financial disclosures released Wednesday.

Mr. Panetta received $56,000 from Merrill Lynch & Co. for two speeches and $28,000 for a speech for Wachovia Corp., according to disclosures released ahead of Thursday's scheduled Senate hearing on Mr. Panetta's nomination.

Both Merrill and Wachovia reported big losses last year and were acquired by larger firms. The Wachovia honorarium was dated October 30, and the last Merrill Lynch honorarium was dated October 11, according to disclosure forms filed by Mr. Panetta in connection with his nomination. At the time, Bank of America had agreed to a rescue of Merrill Lynch; Wachovia had agreed to be acquired by Wells Fargo & Co.

--snip--

Mr. Panetta also received a $28,000 honorarium from the Carlyle Group, a private equity firm that owns companies doing business with national-security agencies of the U.S. government. Carlyle holds a majority stake in the government consulting arm of Booz Allen Hamilton Inc., which works for the CIA and other agencies. A Carlyle spokesman said Mr. Panetta was paid to speak at an investor conference and that the matter was unrelated to Booz Allen or any other defense contractors.



Carlyle Group :lol: :lol:

This is about as good as when Gore was touting Halliburton for their Bosnia work.
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:45 pm

Dang....Never thought I'd see this..


AP alleges copyright infringement of Obama image


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NEW YORK (AP) - On buttons, posters and Web sites, the image was everywhere during last year's presidential campaign: A pensive Barack Obama looking upward, as if to the future, splashed in a Warholesque red, white and blue and underlined with the caption HOPE.
Designed by Shepard Fairey, a Los-Angeles based street artist, the image has led to sales of hundreds of thousands of posters and stickers, has become so much in demand that copies signed by Fairey have been purchased for thousands of dollars on eBay.

The image, Fairey has acknowledged, is based on an Associated Press photograph, taken in April 2006 by Manny Garcia on assignment for the AP at the National Press Club in Washington.

The AP says it owns the copyright, and wants credit and compensation. Fairey disagrees.

"The Associated Press has determined that the photograph used in the poster is an AP photo and that its use required permission," the AP's director of media relations, Paul Colford, said in a statement.

"AP safeguards its assets and looks at these events on a case-by-case basis. We have reached out to Mr. Fairey's attorney and are in discussions. We hope for an amicable solution."

"We believe fair use protects Shepard's right to do what he did here," says Fairey's attorney, Anthony Falzone, executive director of the Fair Use Project at Stanford University and a lecturer at the Stanford Law School. "It wouldn't be appropriate to comment beyond that at this time because we are in discussions about this with the AP."

Fair use is a legal concept that allows exceptions to copyright law, based on, among other factors, how much of the original is used, what the new work is used for and how the original is affected by the new work.

A longtime rebel with a history of breaking rules, Fairey has said he found the photograph using Google Images. He released the image on his Web site shortly after he created it, in early 2008, and made thousands of posters for the street.

As it caught on, supporters began downloading the image and distributing it at campaign events, while blogs and other Internet sites picked it up. Fairey has said that he did not receive any of the money raised.

A former Obama campaign official said they were well aware of the image based on the picture taken by Garcia, a temporary hire no longer with the AP, but never licensed it or used it officially. The Obama official asked not to be identified because no one was authorized anymore to speak on behalf of the campaign.



Does the AP want a share of that $750 Million? I think they do. "Hey Barry we helped get you elected, pay up."

I'm sensing a trend here.
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Postby Lula » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:49 pm

what $750,000,000?
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:53 pm

Lula wrote:what $750,000,000?


You know, the bling that the One raised for his campaign. The biggest money raised in HISTORY for a POUTS Campaign.. That dough ain't all gone.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:58 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Cigarettes will be going up .62 cents a pack, soon.


States need that tax revenue.
While we're at it, how about taxing and regulating pot and whores, too.
I think right-of-center libertarians like Stu would be on board with that, as well.


I think pot should be legal...it is NO WORSE than booze...Hookers...well it seems to work well in Montreal...

Look..if you legalize prostitution, and regulate it...including things like health checkups and the like...then well...you cut the incidence of STD's...you drive pimps out of the business and everyone is happy.

So yup...you are right...

As for the cigarette tax...well...I know it is stupid to smoke (and I do) and I know my health care cost are higher...so taxing it to help out kids with no insurance? Go for it!
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:01 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Cigarettes will be going up .62 cents a pack, soon.


States need that tax revenue.
While we're at it, how about taxing and regulating pot and whores, too.
I think right-of-center libertarians like Stu would be on board with that, as well.


I think pot should be legal...it is NO WORSE than booze...Hookers...well it seems to work well in Montreal...

Look..if you legalize prostitution, and regulate it...including things like health checkups and the like...then well...you cut the incidence of STD's...you drive pimps out of the business and everyone is happy.

So yup...you are right...

As for the cigarette tax...well...I know it is stupid to smoke (and I do) and I know my health care cost are higher...so taxing it to help out kids with no insurance? Go for it!


I really don't think legalizing prostitution would do anything to make the problem any better.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:04 pm

conversationpc wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Cigarettes will be going up .62 cents a pack, soon.


States need that tax revenue.
While we're at it, how about taxing and regulating pot and whores, too.
I think right-of-center libertarians like Stu would be on board with that, as well.


I think pot should be legal...it is NO WORSE than booze...Hookers...well it seems to work well in Montreal...

Look..if you legalize prostitution, and regulate it...including things like health checkups and the like...then well...you cut the incidence of STD's...you drive pimps out of the business and everyone is happy.

So yup...you are right...

As for the cigarette tax...well...I know it is stupid to smoke (and I do) and I know my health care cost are higher...so taxing it to help out kids with no insurance? Go for it!


I really don't think legalizing prostitution would do anything to make the problem any better.


It would...places with legal prostitution have far fewer incidences of violence toward prostitutes...less drug use etc etc...

It happens...might as well tax it...and bring it out of the dark, tax it. We all know it happens, might as well use it for some good for society.
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:05 pm

Couldn't we just tax yours and everyone elses internet cost .62 a day instead. You'd be paying double since you smoke, as would I. Why pick on smokers. This is like the $48 a year on my property tax to fund the Zoo. I don't go to the damn zoo and if I want to go, I'll pay when I get there.
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:14 pm

Panetta's largest director's fee last year, $170,000 in cash and stock options, came from Zenith National Insurance, which promotes safety on the job but specializes in protecting businesses from the financial consequences of workplace injuries. Other board members include Catherine B. Reynolds, head of EduCap, a controversial student loan company that is under investigation by the IRS.

Separately, the Senate intelligence committee is looking into Panetta's ties to EduCap, according to people with knowledge of the matter. The company's ties to Thomas A. Daschle became an issue in his failed bid to become secretary of health and human services.



Student loans? The crooks seem to be everywhere.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:50 am

Fact Finder wrote:Alright, I need you Dems to 'splain this to me.

Congress passes the SCHIP Bill today, it's sent right over to the White House for signing by the President today. Right? Right?

Explain this to me:

Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/


Thanks in advance. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Bush vetoed SCHIP before.
Therefore, technically, it's not a "new" bill - unless it has been significantly loaded up with pork since then (which is likely).

This website has the low down on SCHIP, as well as the fair pay act for women, which was also jammed thru without vetting.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... signing-b/
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:06 am

By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — The husband of President Obama's Labor secretary nominee paid about $6,400 Wednesday to settle tax liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years against his business, the Obama administration told USA TODAY this afternoon.

The disclosure came shortly before a scheduled 2 p.m. meeting of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, which will vote on Rep. Hilda Solis' nomination as labor secretary. The hearing was postponed; no reason was immediately revealed.

Los Angeles County records showed 15 outstanding state and county tax liens against Sam Sayyad and his auto repair business, totaling $7,630. Two other liens worth $981 were released in 1999 after Sayyad repaid the taxes owed, according to county records.

Solis' financial disclosures list Sayyad's business, Sam's Foreign and Domestic Auto Center, as one of the couple's main assets, worth between $50,000 and $100,000. The disclosure form Solis filed after her nomination also lists bank accounts containing between $250,000 and $500,000.



How many does this make now, 6? Good grief, these folks had between a quarter to a half million dollars in bank accounts and wouldn't pay the IRS $6400. Shameful.
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I am sooo loving this shit....

Senate panel postpones vote on labor nominee
By SAM HANANEL – 24 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Senate panel has postponed a scheduled vote on the nomination of Hilda Solis as labor secretary amid complaints from some Republicans about her work for a pro-union group.

The Democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee said Thursday that lawmakers need more time to review documentation submitted in support of Solis.

Some Republicans have raised questions about her role as treasurer of American Rights at Work, a group pushing for passage of a bill to make it easier for workers to form unions.

Wyoming Sen. Mike Enzi, the committee's top Republican, has suggested that Solis should recuse herself for two years from debate over the legislation because of her position with the group.

Solis says her work for the group did not involve any lobbying activities.



Dem tax cheat list..so far as we know :lol:

Charlie Rangel
Tim Geithner
Tom Daschle
Nancy Killefer
Al Franken
Hilda Solis
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:28 am

Here's hoping Charlie is told to take a hike..

RANGEL 'FLUNKS' $$ MATH

30 YEARS OF 'FUZZY' DISCLOSURES SLAMMED


The financial-disclosure forms filed over the past three decades by Rep. Charles Rangel are full of fuzzy math, according to an exhaustive review released yesterday.

The nonpartisan Sunlight Foundation identified 28 separate instances within Rangel's 30 years of congressionally mandated filings where, it says, he failed to report acquiring, owning or disposing of assets.

The new report could add more woes for the powerful Democrat, already under investigation by the House Ethics Committee over his finances and possible abuse of authority.

"In his calendar year 2006 filing, for example, Rangel reported 13 investments, mostly in mutual funds, which he valued in a range between $54,013 and $286,000, without indicating when he acquired them," the researchers wrote.

"In that same year, a quartet of assets that he reported acquiring in 2004 and worth between $95,004 and $250,000 disappeared from his filing without any indication of whether they were sold or exchanged."

Rangel dismissed the report as a "cheap political stunt."

"The Committee on Standards of Official Conduct is currently reviewing these matters at Chairman Rangel's request and that bipartisan committee will look at the House rules and make its judgments," said spokesman Emile Milne.

"Given that Chairman Rangel already has acknowledged errors on his financial-disclosure forms and has hired a forensic accountant to review and correct the mistakes, it's not news that there are errors here," Milne said.

Separately yesterday, Texas Republican Rep. John Carter submitted a mostly symbolic resolution to remove Rangel from his chairmanship of the tax-law-writing Ways & Means Committee, until the Ethics Committee finishes its probe.

The investigative subcommittee was convened after a Post exposé reported that the 38-year lawmaker failed to declare rental income on a beachfront villa he owns in the Dominican Republic.

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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:57 am

Fact Finder wrote:I am sooo loving this shit....


You are pathetic.
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:37 am

Here we go gang, 2 weeks and 2 days and the real shit starts......

President Obama Likely to Order Military Commission Charges Dropped Against Terrorist Suspect Al-Nashiri Friday

February 05, 2009 5:46 PM



ABC News has learned that on Friday, President Obama will likely order the Department of Defense's Military Commission to withdraw charges against terrorist suspect Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The charges may later be reinstated in a military commission or pursued in a civilian court. Al-Nashiri will remain in custody.

The announcement will not be made until after President Obama meets with the families of victims of terrorist attacks on 9/11 and on the U.S.S. Cole, where he will assure them that this step is not being done to be lenient towards al-Nashiri. The move is being done to stop the continued prosecution of al-Nashiri in a court system that his administration may ultimately find illegitimate, not for any other reason, sources told ABC News.

President Obama has expressed concern about whether the military commissions set up by the Bush administration are the proper way to go forward in pursuing charges against the U.S. detainees, and on January 22 he asked all the judges supervising the trials of detainees for a continuance of 120 days, so a team of administration officials could review the best way forward.

In almost the cases, that continuance request was granted. But last week the judge supervising the al-Nashiri trial -- Army Col. James L. Pohl, the chief judge at the Guantanamo Bay war crimes court -- said he would not heed President Obama's request for a 120-day continuance, or delay, in prosecutions of terrorism suspects. Pohl called the president's request "not reasonable" and not "in the interests of justice."

The arraignment of al-Nashiri is scheduled for Monday, February 9.




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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:44 am

Barry is giving a speech at that Dem RETREAT, he's bombing big time.

He talks too much.
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