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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:14 am

Barry fuckin Switzer :lol: That moron's (like most of the media) been waiting YEARS for this chance to go at Joe. Remember the "I'm not leaving college football in the hands of the Switzers and Sherrils" comment Joe made.
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Postby ebake02 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:40 am

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Sandusky Scandal: National Media Misses The Mark

By Dan Vecellio

Quick. Don't think. Who is prime suspect number one in the scandal involving Penn State right now? If you were to read 95% of the stories put out by the national media since Sunday or gone on Twitter or (from stories I've heard) spoken with any of the national talking heads trudging through State College right now, they would tell you that the villain in this horrible, horrible incident is Joe Paterno.

Tell me, when was the last time you heard Jerry Sandusky's name? When was the last time you heard about the charges brought against athletic director Tim Curley and former VP of Business and Finance Gary Schultz? I'm fairly certain that these three men have been the ones charged with crimes in this on-going investigation.

Some of you may know me as the former sports editor at Onward State. I started writing my junior year and became fascinated with journalism. I found it exciting to go fact-finding. To be able to relate a story to the masses was an exhilarating feeling. But over the past five days, my love for the craft has dwindled. I realized a whole lot about the business of journalism after reading the stories of the New York Times, Washington Post and some of the most respected news blogs in the nation. And yes, I said BUSINESS of journalism. Because journalism has now gone past its roots. It is no longer about telling a story. It is making up the story that will sell the most papers, get the most pageviews, accrue the most Twitter followers and make the most money in the end. What will sell a story? Will a story about a no-name like Gary Schultz sell papers? Will a story about Tim Curley get an author noticed? Even a story on Graham Spanier, who has a bit more national prominence, won't bring in readership. Like I said, when was the last big story on the perpetrator, Jerry Sandusky, written?

You know what will sell, though? The downfall of an American icon. A man who has spent 60 years building the reputation of a football program, a university, a whole town doing the "legal minimum" but not his "moral duty" being pummeled both in writing and by cameras and microphones everywhere he goes. I can guarantee you, if Penn State was coached by some no-name, the stories churned out would be about the victims and the men who perpetrated these crimes.

I'm not here to defend what Joe Paterno did or did not do. That has been talked about in many other posts and in many other comment boards. But I hope to convey some of the things the media has lost sight of over the past week by dissecting different allegations they have brought up. Please follow along below.

1. "JOE PATERNO NEVER FOLLOWED UP ON THESE CHARGES" or "JOE PATERNO SENT THIS UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND WASHED HIS HANDS OF THE SITUATION"

This was the first of many "facts" that was made up by the national media. If you've read the Grand Jury testimony, I commend you. Now go read it again. Pick out the part where it says Joe never went back to Tim Curley or Gary Schultz to see what was happening in the process. It never says he did, but it sure as hell doesn't say he didn't either.

2. "JOE PATERNO KNEW ABOUT (OR HAD TO HAVE KNOWN ABOUT) THE '98 ALLEGATIONS AND STILL LET A CHILD RAPIST AROUND HIS TEAM"

Once again, go back to the testimony. Nowhere does it say that Joe knew about any allegations before 2002. In fact, one person I know sat in a class on Tuesday and listened to Patriot-News reporter Sara Garim, who has been the point person for all of the investigative stories dealing with this case, say that Joe testified he did not know about the 1998 allegations, going as far to say: "I think it's fair to say, as far as you could possibly say, that Joe Paterno didn't know about [the 1998 investigation]." If some real investigating had been done by the national media, they'd probably know that too.

3. "JOE PATERNO ENABLED A CHILD RAPIST"

Use your words better. I understand your need for emphasis to sell, but using the word enable makes it seem like Joe hand-picked the boys for Sandusky.

4. "JOE PATERNO IS TIM CURLEY'S/GRAHAM SPANIER'S BOSS" or "JOE PATERNO RUNS PENN STATE UNIVERSITY"

Many columnists have brought this point up in regards to Joe pushing Mike McQueary's information up the chain of command. Since Joe runs everything there, he is to blame. He is the head honcho. Find other columns these men and women have written. Look at their Twitter feeds over the past year. Look at them from the past week! They'll tell you that he doesn't even run his own football team anymore and hasn't for 15 years. For an 84-year old man to not be able to look over 85 players and a coaching staff, but yet control 44,000 students on the University Park campus, plus the administrators, plus the faculty, plus the staff and handle day-to-day operations of a university seems unimaginable to me. But you know, whatever argument works at the time, guys.

When Joe Paterno released his retirement statement Wednesday morning, he said that he would finish out the year coaching. A large majority of the people I follow on Twitter and TV commentators said it wasn't enough and were adamant about it. He needed to resign now or be fired by the Board of Trustees. A huge, HUGE backlash for a man who just wants to coach four or five more football games. Later on in the afternoon, Ben Jones of Black Shoes Diaries and StateCollege.com tweeted that he was told Jerry Sandusky was spotted working out in a gym with his wife this morning. The reaction? "Wow." "Geez." "Welp."

This story has become so twisted that negative emotion about a man coaching a football game exceeds that of an accused chlid molester walking the streets of the town where he committed his crimes by what it seems to be millions of percent. By focusing on the tear-down of the most notable figure involved in the case, people have become numb to the man who did the most damage and those who have been accused to covering up that damage.

Sensationalizing a story led to Joe Paterno being the first man to lose his job in this fiasco. And while I have no qualms about saying Joe had to step down after this mess blew up, when looking back at the facts, is he really the first man who should have gotten the axe?

Now, since the media has completed Objective One: Bring Down JoePa, I hope they do what I always believed journalists did: find the facts, dig through the sources and tell the people the real stories happening in State College.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:51 am

Thank you Dan Vecellio, it's about friggin' time a decent human cover this!!


"This story has become so twisted that negative emotion about a man coaching a football game exceeds that of an accused chlid molester walking the streets of the town where he committed his crimes by what it seems to be millions of percent. By focusing on the tear-down of the most notable figure involved in the case, people have become numb to the man who did the most damage and those who have been accused to covering up that damage"
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Postby ebake02 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:24 am

This article is dead-on accurate. The media doesn't give a rats ass about the victims or stringing up the bastard that did this.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:41 am

PS~I love Switzer~sweet ... My feelings are that he/Switzer
knows that they had to get Joepa out of there to get this
mess cleaned up w/out having him as the constant center
of attention...they ^^^are not enemies ... or should I say,
it is my belief that they are not enemies!!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:26 am

Fact Finder wrote:Ok, what to make of this tidbit?

http://www.wyff4.com/news/29738465/deta ... z1dQh08Dfj



Penn State Scandal Impacts High School Recruits

Greer H.S. Linebacker No Longer Considers Playing For Penn State

POSTED: 4:10 pm EST November 10, 2011

GREER, S.C. -- The Penn State fallout is having a trickle-down effect on high school football recruiting.

Adam Ah Ching, a senior linebacker at Greer High School, told WYFF News 4’s Kim Quintero that he’s played football since he was 6 and has his sights set on playing college ball.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footb ... m-ah-ching“When you're Polynesian, growing up, football is No. 1 in your life,” said Ah Ching.

Ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country, Ah Ching said he was paid a visit by Penn State's former assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky.

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching.

But days after Sandusky was charged with sexually abusing young boys, leading to the firing of football coach Joe Paterno and university President Graham Spanier, Ah Ching scratched Penn State off his list of where he'd continue his football career.


Read more: http://www.wyff4.com/news/29738465/deta ... z1dQhRGsqL



Ok, I thought we were told the sick fuck was retired and had nothing to do with Paterno or the program any longer...WTF..on a recruiting trip last season :shock: ...I'm sorry gang but Paterno is not passing the smell test here. He would have known about this.
I call bullshit!!
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Brigham Young Medium Offered None
California Medium None
Clemson Medium None
Colorado Medium Offered None
Georgia Tech Medium Offered None
Nebraska Medium None John Papuchis
Notre Dame Medium None Mike Elston
Oregon Medium None
Oregon State Medium Offered None
South Carolina Medium None
Stanford Medium None
UCLA Medium Offered None
Utah Medium Offered None
Washington Medium None

Plus, noone said Sandusky was there on OFFICIAL PS business ...he may have been there shopping for himself!!
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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:03 am

Gives new meaning to the term: Jerry's Kids
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Postby ebake02 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:19 am

Fact Finder wrote:Two pieces of cinder block were thrown through the window of former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky's home in State College, Pa., last night, State College Police said. Sandusky was not home at the time, NBC Philadelphia first reported.

Sandusky, who last week was charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse against minors, lives next to Lemont Elementary School.

The incident occurred around 10:20 p.m. last night, according to the NBC Philadelphia report. Police do not have any suspects.


It's too bad that cinder block wasn't thrown at his head.
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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:03 am

Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
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Postby S2M » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:10 am

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AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?



During the pregame show, ESPN announcers cut away to the Penn. St locker room to see how the players were preparing, after the camera came on in the locker room, one of the announcers, thinking his mic was off said, "where's the little kids". :shock: :lol: :lol:


I hope that announcer is fired. No room for that kind of shit. Let the comedians handle the jokes.
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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:18 am

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AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?



During the pregame show, ESPN announcers cut away to the Penn. St locker room to see how the players were preparing, after the camera came on in the locker room, one of the announcers, thinking his mic was off said, "where's the little kids". :shock: :lol: :lol:


I really hope that makes it io on YouTube. I have hear that one! 8)
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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:24 am

Very little protesting outside the stadium, but one former fan gets it today.

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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:29 am

S2M wrote:
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AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?



During the pregame show, ESPN announcers cut away to the Penn. St locker room to see how the players were preparing, after the camera came on in the locker room, one of the announcers, thinking his mic was off said, "where's the little kids". :shock: :lol: :lol:


I hope that announcer is fired. No room for that kind of shit. Let the comedians handle the jokes.


Obama just got caught saying something about the Israeli president when he thought the mic wasn't on. He should be fired as well then.
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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:34 am

Allegedly the team seniors are planning on marching the game ball Dow to Paterno if Penn State wins. I'd like to see that circus in a way.
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Postby S2M » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:43 am

AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?


Tebowing has become quite popular..... :roll:
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Postby ebake02 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:40 am

AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?


Can't you leave us the fuck alone for crying out loud.
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Postby AR » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:03 am

State College, PA is the new Jonestown, Guyana. Creepy.
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Postby Don » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:47 am

It's just a College. This defending it to the death is pathetic. It's not like a military unit that is out there getting shot at and everyone is covering each other's back; it's an exclusive school that people pay a lot of money to so they can attend. If anything, we are seeing how much the times have changed where now, people in their tweens don't even seem to be mature enough yet to grasp the big picture.
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:04 am

ebake02 wrote:
AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?


Can't you leave us the fuck alone for crying out loud.


Come on dude, it's a discussion board, what did you expect people to be discussing? This is big time news and it's going to be talked about. Sorry that it's personal to you, but you have to realize of all the topics we discuss on here, most of them are personal to someone.
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:36 am

Fact Finder wrote:BreakingNews

Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary tells players he's secluded in 'protective custody' http://bit.ly/vdKkos


Boo hoo. :D Maybe now he knows how it feels to be scared.
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:38 am

AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?


People are worshipers of all the wrong things.
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:40 am

S2M wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
AR wrote:Watching the PennState game right now. They just showed 2 grown men kneeling in front of Paterno's house before the game in tribute. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with these people?



During the pregame show, ESPN announcers cut away to the Penn. St locker room to see how the players were preparing, after the camera came on in the locker room, one of the announcers, thinking his mic was off said, "where's the little kids". :shock: :lol: :lol:


I hope that announcer is fired. No room for that kind of shit. Let the comedians handle the jokes.


Any comedian who makes light of this obviously isn't that talented to begin with.
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Postby ebake02 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:37 pm

Very impressed with my school today, Nebraska as well.
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Postby perryswoman » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:08 am

Fact Finder wrote:Albert Einstein once said, “The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”




Robinson: Penn State 428, Little Boys 0

Posted: November 13, 2011

By GEVERYL ROBINSON

This is the seventh draft of this column.

The first six drafts were riddled with too many words that would have gotten me permanently banned from writing any more columns, so I had to try to tone things down.

Want to guess what I’m writing about? I’ll give you three letters: PSU, Pedophile State University. Awesome article and my sentiments exactly! ALL should be fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops. I mean Penn State University and the sex scandal surrounding the football team.

To say this situation has upset me is a gross understatement.

I tried to write about the sex scandal as calmly as possible, but I couldn’t. To keep from using profane language, I’m using numbers to replace the real words I want to say. I just thought I’d let you know, so you wouldn’t be confused while reading this column.

You, however, can insert your own expletives in place of the numbers if you desire.

Joe Paterno once said, “The minute you think you’ve got it made, disaster is just around the corner.”

I’m sure at the time that he had no idea how prophetic those words would be. But his “disaster” was self-induced.

Once Paterno was made aware of Jerry Sandusky’s alleged acts, he alerted the higher ups at the university. But what Paterno should have done is called 9-1-1 after beating the 107 out of Sandusky.

Did Paterno have a legal obligation to alert the authorities? No.

But he had a moral responsibility to do so. And, I don’t give a 894 if the students are upset that Joe Paterno got fired. They should have been upset about what happened to the victims.

Instead, they acted a fool over a coach.

Football is a game; these little boys had their lives shattered by an alleged pedophile.

But the students and Paterno aren’t even the worst of it. With the exception of Sandusky, wide receivers coach Mike McQueary, who was 28 (his age, not profanity) at the time he witnessed a child allegedly being molested, is an even bigger 589.

McQueary reportedly witnessed the alleged abuse and called HIS father. Not the child’s father. And not the police. What the 727? He didn’t even try to stop Sandusky, and McQueary’s father told Paterno. Yet, McQueary is still a part of the coaching staff at PSU.

I wonder if McQueary had witnessed a little girl being molested, would he have done the same thing? Would he have called the police or gone running to his father like a little 216?

Rape of anyone is a crime. But the fact that it was children allegedly being molested makes what has been reported even more heinous, and McQueary’s inaction even more inexcusable. McQueary shouldn’t be coaching. No one should be coaching because no one at Penn State should be playing football until the investigation is complete.

Why the NCAA is allowing Penn State to play is beyond me. Wait; actually, I do know why they are being allowed to play: M-O-N-E-Y.

It’s a shame that the alleged victims take a backseat to the revenue the football team generates for the university. It’s a travesty that anyone could still support the Nittany Lions.

Albert Einstein once said, “The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

The situation at Penn State proves this quote to be true.

Interestingly enough, nittany means “single mountain.” Unfortunately, due to those people who knew about what allegedly occurred and did nothing, the football mountain at Penn State was sustained on the backs of little boys.

The police code for child molestation is 428. So regarding the Penn State sex abuse scandal, the score would be Penn State 428, Little Boys 0.

And that’s a 795 shame.



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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:57 am

ebake02 wrote:Very impressed with my school today, Nebraska as well.


Are you fucking serious? Neither one of these two schools could finish above 500 in the PAC12. Penn state sucks dude. Shitty offense, totally predetermined plays....fucking borefest. By the way, there are gonna be some lean years, if not decades ahead for Nittany Kittens. You guys might as well drop out of the Big11 and join the Atlantic 10 or some division 3 league.
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Postby slucero » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:47 am

Recruiting for Penn State is gonna be non-existent...

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Postby perryswoman » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:56 am

Fact Finder wrote:Albert Einstein once said, “The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”




Robinson: Penn State 428, Little Boys 0

Posted: November 13, 2011

By GEVERYL ROBINSON

This is the seventh draft of this column.

The first six drafts were riddled with too many words that would have gotten me permanently banned from writing any more columns, so I had to try to tone things down.

PSU, Pedophile State University.

Oops. I mean Penn State University and the sex scandal surrounding the football team.

To say this situation has upset me is a gross understatement.

I tried to write about the sex scandal as calmly as possible, but I couldn’t. To keep from using profane language, I’m using numbers to replace the real words I want to say. I just thought I’d let you know, so you wouldn’t be confused while reading this column.

You, however, can insert your own expletives in place of the numbers if you desire.

Joe Paterno once said, “The minute you think you’ve got it made, disaster is just around the corner.”

I’m sure at the time that he had no idea how prophetic those words would be. But his “disaster” was self-induced.

Once Paterno was made aware of Jerry Sandusky’s alleged acts, he alerted the higher ups at the university. But what Paterno should have done is called 9-1-1 after beating the 107 out of Sandusky.

Did Paterno have a legal obligation to alert the authorities? No.

But he had a moral responsibility to do so. And, I don’t give a 894 if the students are upset that Joe Paterno got fired. They should have been upset about what happened to the victims.

Instead, they acted a fool over a coach.

Football is a game; these little boys had their lives shattered by an alleged pedophile.

But the students and Paterno aren’t even the worst of it. With the exception of Sandusky, wide receivers coach Mike McQueary, who was 28 (his age, not profanity) at the time he witnessed a child allegedly being molested, is an even bigger 589.

McQueary reportedly witnessed the alleged abuse and called HIS father. Not the child’s father. And not the police. What the 727? He didn’t even try to stop Sandusky, and McQueary’s father told Paterno. Yet, McQueary is still a part of the coaching staff at PSU.

I wonder if McQueary had witnessed a little girl being molested, would he have done the same thing? Would he have called the police or gone running to his father like a little 216?

Rape of anyone is a crime. But the fact that it was children allegedly being molested makes what has been reported even more heinous, and McQueary’s inaction even more inexcusable. McQueary shouldn’t be coaching. No one should be coaching because no one at Penn State should be playing football until the investigation is complete.

Why the NCAA is allowing Penn State to play is beyond me. Wait; actually, I do know why they are being allowed to play: M-O-N-E-Y.

It’s a shame that the alleged victims take a backseat to the revenue the football team generates for the university. It’s a travesty that anyone could still support the Nittany Lions.

Albert Einstein once said, “The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

The situation at Penn State proves this quote to be true.

Interestingly enough, nittany means “single mountain.” Unfortunately, due to those people who knew about what allegedly occurred and did nothing, the football mountain at Penn State was sustained on the backs of little boys.

The police code for child molestation is 428. So regarding the Penn State sex abuse scandal, the score would be Penn State 428, Little Boys 0.

And that’s a 795 shame.



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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:51 am

perryswoman wrote:Well said! Had it be my 10 year old, Dusky would be dead!

Unfortunately, it is being insinuated/advertised that poor/less
fortunate mothers do not have the same killer/protective instincts.
This could've been over in '98 if at least one such mother had.
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Postby ebake02 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:55 am

Rockindeano wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Very impressed with my school today, Nebraska as well.


Are you fucking serious? Neither one of these two schools could finish above 500 in the PAC12. Penn state sucks dude. Shitty offense, totally predetermined plays....fucking borefest. By the way, there are gonna be some lean years, if not decades ahead for Nittany Kittens. You guys might as well drop out of the Big11 and join the Atlantic 10 or some division 3 league.


I was talking about how they handled themselves before the game fuck nut, not how well they played on the field.
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Postby perryswoman » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:59 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
perryswoman wrote:Well said! Had it be my 10 year old, Dusky would be dead!

Unfortunately, it is being insinuated/advertised that poor/less
fortunate mothers do not have the same killer/protective instincts.
This could've been over in '98 if at least one such mother had.


Yea is sad! Heck had it been my dog, he would have been killed!
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