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Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby tater1977 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:05 pm

A Statement from Bruce Springsteen on North Carolina

Bruce Springsteen·Friday, April 8, 2016

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As you, my fans, know I’m scheduled to play in Greensboro, North Carolina this Sunday. As we also know, North Carolina has just passed HB2, which the media are referring to as the “bathroom” law. HB2 — known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act — dictates which bathrooms transgender people are permitted to use. Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace. No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden. To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress. Right now, there are many groups, businesses, and individuals in North Carolina working to oppose and overcome these negative developments. Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters. As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th. Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards.

Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band’s Sunday April 10th show is canceled. Tickets will be refunded at point of purchase.

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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:32 pm

A real dick move by The Boss.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RedWingFan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:33 pm

obviously, he'll support my right to jump onstage with him and piss on his shoes in front of a full house next time he's in my town.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby scarab » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:44 am

punish your fans for a bunch of idiotic politicians? whats the gonna solve?
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby ebake02 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:57 am

It's all about money, the promoters and the arena are probably losing a shit ton of money over this and money talks.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RPM » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:58 am

So these people are ok with there wife and maybe young daughter being confronted
With a guy in a bathroom because today he identifies with his female side?
Then of course if the husband confronts him he will be charged with a hate crime
With aclu lawyers....typical liberal crap, screw everyone else's rights for the .05%
Of population who can't figure out which bathroom to use....And Bruce is an ass.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:02 am

Maybe the Promoter, Venue, ect. that is losing huge amounts of money because of his feelings will sue his ass off for breach of contract and damages.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Journey/Survivor » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:03 am

I never could stand that hypocritical pompous ass poser Bruce Springsteen. This just shows all the more what a douche-bag the guy is. Not to mention that he's one of the most overrated Rock stars in history!
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby verslibre » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:11 am

RPM wrote:So these people are ok with there wife and maybe young daughter being confronted
With a guy in a bathroom because today he identifies with his female side?


:lol: http://37.media.tumblr.com/5154d7b4392664b6fc9ef7eb93dfdc86/tumblr_minnlvSiX51qedb29o1_500.gif
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby steveo777 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:42 am

If we have anymore legislation, next thing you know, we'll stop wearing clothes. We've gotten by for centuries with having the privacy of our physical gender identified rest rooms. There is no reason to change that. I certainly don't think it's appropriate for a dude to be in my daughter's restroom or locker room. And Bruce needs to stick to the music and stay the hell out of politics. While he might think he's appeasing the LGBT community, they are a minority and he's pissing off more fans than he's appeasing. I used to like Bruce, the artist. I do not like Bruce, the political activist.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RPM » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:48 am

verslibre wrote:
RPM wrote:So these people are ok with there wife and maybe young daughter being confronted
With a guy in a bathroom because today he identifies with his female side?


:lol: http://37.media.tumblr.com/5154d7b4392664b6fc9ef7eb93dfdc86/tumblr_minnlvSiX51qedb29o1_500.gif


LOL ! exactly.. :D
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Boomchild » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:21 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:I never could stand that hypocritical pompous ass poser Bruce Springsteen. This just shows all the more what a douche-bag the guy is. Not to mention that he's one of the most overrated Rock stars in history!


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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Fact Finder » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:59 am

Bruce wouldn't have done this two years ago while his daughter was still at Duke University.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RPM » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:21 am

Fact Finder wrote:Bruce wouldn't have done this two years ago while his daughter was still at Duke University.


Not so sure. Alot of this Ass backwards thinking comes from such Establishments....shes probably all for it.
Didnt anyone think sicko men would use this as excuse to prey on women?
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Majestic » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:09 pm

steveo777 wrote:If we have anymore legislation, next thing you know, we'll stop wearing clothes. We've gotten by for centuries with having the privacy of our physical gender identified rest rooms. There is no reason to change that. I certainly don't think it's appropriate for a dude to be in my daughter's restroom or locker room. And Bruce needs to stick to the music and stay the hell out of politics. While he might think he's appeasing the LGBT community, they are a minority and he's pissing off more fans than he's appeasing. I used to like Bruce, the artist. I do not like Bruce, the political activist.



Totally agree.

I think there needs to be more tolerance and respect all around from all sides and we would be better off without such knee jerk political activist responses to all things and at every level of American society, especially from our entertainers.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby tater1977 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:39 pm

Bryan Adams cancels Mississippi show, citing state's new law

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bryan-adams- ... 24570.html

Associated Press / April 11, 2016

BILOXI, Miss. (AP) — Canadian rocker Bryan Adams is canceling a performance this week in Mississippi, citing the state's new law that allows religious groups and some private businesses to refuse service to gay couples.

Adams said in a statement Sunday night that he was canceling a show Thursday at the Mississippi Coast Coliseum in Biloxi.

The singer says he can't "in good conscience" perform in a state where "certain people are being denied their civil rights due to their sexual orientation."

The move comes after Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band canceled a Sunday show in Greensboro, North Carolina, because of the state's new law blocking anti-discrimination rules for the LGBT community.

The Mississippi law will take effect July 1. Supporters say it offers protection for Christians who adhere to traditional views of marriage and gender roles.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Fact Finder » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:31 pm

Dear Bruce,

As a resident of North Carolina since 2003, I read with interest that you decided to cancel your April 10th concert in Greensboro because of HB2, the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act.

In your statement you explained that, in your view, the bill is “an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress.”

You added that it was time for you and your band “to show solidarity for those freedom fighters” (speaking of transgender activists), and you ended your statement with these powerful words: “Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards.”

I also read that your guitarist Steven Van Zandt, has likened HB2 to an “evil virus” that is spreading through the United States in the form of similar legislation.

These are strong words, and they represent strong convictions.

So, let me first commend you and your band members for putting your principles before your livelihood, even to the disappointment of your North Carolina fans.

I have read that you regretted not performing at the 1985 Live Aid concert in Wembley, and perhaps this is your way of saying, “I do care and I’m here to make a difference.”

Whatever your motivation, I admire anyone who puts morality before money.

My question to you and your band is simply this: In boycotting North Carolina and siding against HB2, did you really side with morality? Are you truly standing with “freedom fighters”?

I’m assuming you read HB2 for yourself and you’re not just listening to media reports attacking the bill or, worse still, getting your talking points from biased lobbyist groups like the Human Rights Campaign. (If you’re not really familiar with the bill, then click here and here and here.)

So, please allow me to ask you some questions.

First, how do you know if someone is really “transgender” or not? Is it determined entirely by how they feel about themselves? If so, do you think that it might be hard to make laws based entirely on how people feel? Did you ever stop to consider that?

Second, what’s the difference between someone with “gender dysphoria” (or, as it used to be called, “gender identity disorder”) and someone, say, with schizophrenia or “multiple personality disorder” or some other psychological condition? In other words, if a man is a biological and chromosomal male but believes he is a woman, is he actually a woman, or does he have a psychological disorder?

If he does have a psychological disorder, should we try to treat that disorder or should we celebrate that disorder? And is it right to call biological males who feel they are women and biological women who feel they are men “freedom fighters”? Perhaps that’s not the best use of the term?

If you are deeply offended that I would dare suggest that many transgender individuals are dealing with a psychological disorder, could you kindly point me to the definitive scientific literature that explains that these biological males are actually females and these biological females are actually males?

I’m not saying they don’t deserve compassion.

To the contrary, I’m saying that’s exactly what they deserve: compassion, not celebration.

But perhaps I’m being too abstract here, so let’s get really practical.

Let’s say that a 6’ 4” male who used to play professional football and who has secretly agonized over his gender identity for years finally determines that he must be true to himself and live as a woman.

Do you think it might be traumatic for a little girl using the library bathroom to see this big man walk into her room wearing a dress and a wig? Should we take her feelings into account, or is she not important? What if that was your granddaughter? Would you care if she was traumatized? And when you speak of “the human rights of all of our citizens” does that include little girls like this?

I understand that this gentleman will have difficulties should he decide to dress and live as a woman, but that is still a choice he is making, and it is not fair to impose his struggles on innocent little children, is it?

And what if this same man, whom we’ll assume is not a sexual predator, wants to share the YMCA locker room with your wife and daughter, standing there in his underwear as they come out of the shower stalls wrapped in towels. Is this fair to them?

Let’s take this one step further.

If any man who claims to be a woman can use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms, then how do we keep the sexual predators out? I’ve asked people to watch this short video, giving examples of male heterosexual predators who donned women’s clothing to get into the ladies’ rooms, and I’d encourage you to watch it too.

Without HB2, rapists and voyeurs and pedophiles would have free access to our women and daughters in the safety of their own bathrooms and locker rooms.

Since you don’t like HB2 – indeed, your guitarist called it an “evil virus” – what’s your plan to keep the predators out? How can we tell the difference between a “genuine” transgender person and a sexual predator? Since everyone knows you as “The Boss,” what would you do to keep the ladies and children safe?

And one final question.

When you booked the concert in Greenboro, the laws in North Carolina were just as they are today: In public facilities, people had to use the bathrooms and locker rooms that corresponded to their biological sex.

Why, then, did you agree to come in the first place? Why cancel the concert when things today are just what they were six months ago?


Again, I appreciate your sincerity, but I question your judgment.

In your zeal to do what is right, you have actually done what is wrong.



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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RPM » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:39 am

Great questions that he will not answer. I wonder if any of our Liberal friends here that agree with this bill
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Postby Boomchild » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:15 pm

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Imagine a young girl being confronted with the above in the women's restroom.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:41 pm

And, you guys are all ignoring this bit of what Bruce said, "Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace. No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden."

That is wrong, very wrong. The most conservative Republican should not be opposed to any person suing government when their rights are violated...and they should definitely not be for a law that suppresses that fundamental right.

You all are focused on ONE part of the issue, which I think is silly. There was no public outcry over who uses what bathroom that prompted this bill. You all are just making shit up with ridiculous "what if..." statements. Where are the dozens of articles BEFORE this bill was even proposed? The entire situation is made up bullshit for whiney conservatives who fear catching the "gay virus".

And, BTW, I was going to post that I read that Ringo Starr is canceling his NC date. Cyndi Lauper is using her concert in NC for a LGBT rally. Gregg Allman whined about it, but is still doing his concert. Google is considering NOT opening offices in NC. And, the NC governor is making changes to the bill via executive order in response to the public outcry...by local business. The implications of this bigoted bill are far more reaching then just Bruce Springsteen and have the real possibility of affecting NC economically.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby steveo777 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:44 pm

Monker.....

Go suck a bag of dicks. :mrgreen:

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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby AR » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:01 am

These same progressives canceling their music dates over a law they don't like are the first to point fingers at someone for refusing to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple. BOTH are refusing service. Pretty hypocritical. Regardless of your beliefs be consistent.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby gdaeb » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:45 am

If we stay on this path soon it will be legal to marry your dog...
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Monker » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:24 am

gdaeb wrote:If we stay on this path soon it will be legal to marry your dog...


And, if someone does, what do you care? How does that trample on YOUR rights? Are you a cat person or something?
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby RedWingFan » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:35 am

tater1977 wrote:Bryan Adams cancels Mississippi show, citing state's new law

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bryan-adams- ... 24570.html

Associated Press / April 11, 2016

BILOXI, Miss. (AP) — Canadian rocker Bryan Adams is canceling a performance this week in Mississippi, citing the state's new law that allows religious groups and some private businesses to refuse service to gay couples.

Adams said in a statement Sunday night that he was canceling a show Thursday at the Mississippi Coast Coliseum in Biloxi.

The singer says he can't "in good conscience" perform in a state where "certain people are being denied their civil rights due to their sexual orientation."

The move comes after Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band canceled a Sunday show in Greensboro, North Carolina, because of the state's new law blocking anti-discrimination rules for the LGBT community.

The Mississippi law will take effect July 1. Supporters say it offers protection for Christians who adhere to traditional views of marriage and gender roles.

He just finished performing in Saudi Arabia...who must be a world leader in gay rights I suppose.
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:02 am

Monker wrote:
gdaeb wrote:If we stay on this path soon it will be legal to marry your dog...


And, if someone does, what do you care? How does that trample on YOUR rights? Are you a cat person or something?


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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby gdaeb » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:10 am

Monker wrote:
gdaeb wrote:If we stay on this path soon it will be legal to marry your dog...


And, if someone does, what do you care? How does that trample on YOUR rights? Are you a cat person or something?


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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby Fact Finder » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:02 am

I had hoped that the Supremes ruling for gay marriage would shut these freaks up finally, but we should have known better. These fuckers will always find a new cause to try and ram down our throats, the gay/lgbt lobby is no different than Jesse Jackson and Sharpton, they will never go away. :twisted:
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Re: Reason or Excuse to Cancel a Venue date

Postby verslibre » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:47 am

Monker wrote:Are you a cat person or something?


You hate pussy or something? :lol:
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