verslibre wrote:S2M wrote:Btw, I couldn't name ONE person who thinks IM is shit.
Neither will anyone here. What's that got to do with anything?
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verslibre wrote:S2M wrote:Btw, I couldn't name ONE person who thinks IM is shit.
Neither will anyone here. What's that got to do with anything?
And slotting a movie high on a list merely because it came first( and believe me...when folks say 'Classic', that's exactly what they mean), is suspect.
Admittedly, I have yet to see WW...so, again, I can't comment.
They (the DC CBM community) is taking a four star movie and making it into a perfect five stars
WW is lucky in that it really has had no real competition....NONE. With it being this perfect CBM, it should be doing even better than it has been.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:And slotting a movie high on a list merely because it came first( and believe me...when folks say 'Classic', that's exactly what they mean), is suspect.
Bro, it's my personal list, not some kind of professional; irrevelant ranking that most think they possess the power of nowadays when in reality, it's all in good fun regarding personal taste. Of course ego's and trolls make the most simplest of things about right or wrong, though.
Admittedly, I have yet to see WW...so, again, I can't comment.
"I can't comment.." then proceeds to comment
They (the DC CBM community) is taking a four star movie and making it into a perfect five stars
Only Monker can make me facepalm and laugh at the same time.WW is lucky in that it really has had no real competition....NONE. With it being this perfect CBM, it should be doing even better than it has been.
verslibre wrote:A couple other movies that had NO competition: Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
Monker wrote:If WW is such a bombastic splash, it should also be headed to somewhere close to 800million. As it is, it will be lucky to get 700.
Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:The Mummy had a chance to make a bigger dent than Alien: Covenant.
Both had the same problem. Both are reboots or prequels. Alien had the benefit of at least being led by Ridley Scott.
Monker wrote:The Mummy, IMO, was a reboot that did not need to happen.
Monker wrote:Both Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz are still active. They could have easily tied them into this shared monster universe, if they wanted to be part of it.
Monker wrote:As it is, it seems to be rebooting something that doesn't need to be rebooted in a time when people are getting tired of reboots....and they did it in a way that totally ignores everything that made the Mummy series popular. I love the Mummy series and had zero interest in this version.
Monker wrote:You're right. So much of this is exaggerated. It's partially because it is the first female CBM to do well. It's also the fact that DC NEEDED WW to do well. So, combine those together and you get WW is great CBM ever made type comments.
Monker wrote:Also, for whatever reason, Forbes seems to be very DC biased. Don't know why.
Monker wrote:They (the DC CBM community) is taking a four star movie and making it into a perfect five stars.
Monker wrote:
So, WW did NOT "bury the Mummy" or whatever. The Mummy simply did not interest the ticket buying public. Ww did not steal much from the Mummy because there was nothing there to really steal. Where WW is at is is where it would be regardless of what movies were released.
Monker wrote:BTW, foreign sales actually beat WW's debut weekend sales. So, it is selling over-seas.
Monker wrote:WW is lucky in that it really has had no real competition....NONE. With it being this perfect CBM, it should be doing even better than it has been.
verslibre wrote:Monker wrote:If WW is such a bombastic splash, it should also be headed to somewhere close to 800million. As it is, it will be lucky to get 700.
You make it sound like it's such a horrible goal to aim for.
Both had the same problem. Both are reboots or prequels. Alien had the benefit of at least being led by Ridley Scott.
I hate to break this to you, but more ticketbuyers will name Patty Jenkins, Joss Whedon, Christopher Nolan, Denis Villenueve and Alejandro Iñarritu right now, as far as directors go.
Monker wrote:The Mummy, IMO, was a reboot that did not need to happen.
Monker wrote:Both Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz are still active. They could have easily tied them into this shared monster universe, if they wanted to be part of it.
Fraser hasn't had leading man status for an age. No way would they ask him back. Tom's hits are erratic, but he still gets 'em. Top Gun; Maverick is totally uncalled for, but the stupid thing will probably mint money.
Monker wrote:As it is, it seems to be rebooting something that doesn't need to be rebooted in a time when people are getting tired of reboots....and they did it in a way that totally ignores everything that made the Mummy series popular. I love the Mummy series and had zero interest in this version.
It's too soon. And it's not horror. It's a cross between M:I and superheroes with a mummy villain. It's an action movie.
Monker wrote:When it comes to Alien, there are only two that matte: Ridley Scott and James Cameron. Anybody else sucks.
Monker wrote:Having one of those to lead the project draws a lot more attention than anybody else you can name. This is Alien, not some CBM.
Monker wrote:Fraser had the "Journey" movies, but nothing since, as far as I know. Still, he and Weisz are perfect together. A special combination that you just can't forcefully recreate. Mummy 3 proves that.
verslibre wrote:Monker wrote:When it comes to Alien, there are only two that matte: Ridley Scott and James Cameron. Anybody else sucks.
Cameron's overrated. Scott's the better filmmaker, but Cameron's films have made more money. (Avatar sucks. Go figure.)Monker wrote:Having one of those to lead the project draws a lot more attention than anybody else you can name. This is Alien, not some CBM.
Meaning what? The Alien franchise does alright, but they're not runaway moneymakers. The first movie is still the best one.
Monker wrote:Fraser had the "Journey" movies, but nothing since, as far as I know. Still, he and Weisz are perfect together. A special combination that you just can't forcefully recreate. Mummy 3 proves that.
.“In our case we were incredibly fortunate, DC didn’t ever give me a mandate of tone. And I pitched to Warner Bros. and DC ten years ago, ‘I want to make the origin movie, a la the first Superman with Christopher Reeve. I want to go back and try to do a grand piece of cinema for her.’ So I had been very strong about being excited about that idea, and they really supported it from the start,” Jenkins explained. “We were already just different. It’s hard to apply anything about one movie to another. So luckily, no. We just carried on. We were like, far away in England making this movie… we just trudged on.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I hear Elfman is now doing the JL score. This would be exciting 30 years ago. Elfman just pumps out generic garbage these days. The '89 Batman theme is distinctive. Does anyone remember his Spiderman theme? I don't.
verslibre wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:I hear Elfman is now doing the JL score. This would be exciting 30 years ago. Elfman just pumps out generic garbage these days. The '89 Batman theme is distinctive. Does anyone remember his Spiderman theme? I don't.
Believe me, I am pissed. I think this is Joss' doing. I was looking forward to Junkie XL's score.
Listen to this. This is awesome. This is the kind of music I wanted for Justice League.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xllG3fSUAOw
(That's my fave track from that score, set to my favorite scene in the movie. I was bowled over in the theater, to say the least.)
Elfman is just...so freakin' Elfman. Everything he does sounds like he's scoring to another quirky Burton film. Fuck that!
There are SO many composers they could go with. Now, I don't know why Tom aka Junkie really got let go. I think Joss just wanted Elfman. Maybe they blow each other under the Hollywood sign. But they could have gotten Desplat or Beltrami. I'd even settle for Giacchino.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Despite the bad reviews, Mummy looks like a fun popcorn movie to me. I liked Stephen Summers Van Helsing monster-mash and this looks very similar. Cruise is playing a Van Helsing-type monster hunter and Russel Crowe is Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde. Plus Fulci-style underwater zombies! Sign me up!
verslibre wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Despite the bad reviews, Mummy looks like a fun popcorn movie to me. I liked Stephen Summers Van Helsing monster-mash and this looks very similar. Cruise is playing a Van Helsing-type monster hunter and Russel Crowe is Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde. Plus Fulci-style underwater zombies! Sign me up!
That movie disappointed me, as did his Mummy flicks (though Patricia Velasquez was hot as hell in Returns). It felt like he was able to realize his schoolyard daydreaming with that one. I thought Hugh looked cool in it, though. But the final product wasn't to my liking. The vampire babes were hot, of course (and one of them is Elena Anaya, who plays Dr. Poison in Wonder Woman).
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Forgot about Junkie's involvement with Fury Road...what a movie btw. As big as Fury was, it should have been bigger. Best action flick in easily 10 years or more.
Whedon's Ultron pretty much sucked. His film-making style is very TVish. He should stick to writing Buffy Angel erotic.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I grew up on Monster Squad and all the Karloff/Lugosi stuff.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Aquaman #25 sets the stage for a new arc and a new look to the character. Looks familiar. Can't put a finger on it. Any takers?![]()
Monker wrote:Ridley Scott trying to revive the Alien franchise was a good thing. Prometheus was OK and something to build from but if this latest is as bad as everyone says...not sure it's going to go anywhere now.
Monker wrote:Don't care...for that style of movie, they are some of the best. At that time, Indy was history and Lara Croft had not hit the movies. So, they filled a gap and did it well. IMO, people were ready for that Indiana Jones style of movie...and The Mummy movies filled that gap...and so did Tomb Raider.
Actually, a good action/adventure story hasn't hit the movies in a long time so people may be ready for it again. Not sure about a new Indy...or a new Lara Croft. Something new could really break out.
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Calling it now: David will become the Space Jockey from the 1979 film.
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