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New Kansas

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:26 am
by scarab
As a Kansas Fan for the last 40 years :shock: they are releasing their first album since 2000 ish? Somewhere to Elsewhere, which was pretty good, but would have better with a couple Walsh songs. Now Walsh is gone, and Livgren I believe is not involved in this, this sounds good by the sound bytes. You can tell Billy Greer is involved in the songwriting.

http://kansas.mobiworld.me/marketing/tp ... id=1584700

anyways good to hear a classic rock band recording something new, now hopefully they will play a couple songs from it as their set list has been virtually unchanged for 2+ years.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:15 pm
by yulog
Sounds great, his voice is great for their sound.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:19 am
by verslibre
Can't wait to hear it. The samples are really, really good. They sound very..."Kansas"!

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:19 pm
by RPM
Samples sound very good... Those of us who have enjoyed ARRA for years are happy for him, in his younger days
Boston , Journey , Triumph were within his range and his stage presence was always top notch. Kansas is perfect
for him at this stage of his career . Look forward to the new release!

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:54 am
by verslibre
There's a whole song up now. Not bad. Sounds like '80s Kansas, or Kerry's band, A.D.

https://soundcloud.com/officialinsideoutmusic/kansas-with-this-heart-exclusive-fan-preview/s-LxqaB

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:43 am
by Yoda
He sounds a lot like Billy Greer. It's almost hard to tell if it's him or Billy singing at times - which isn't a bad thing. Ronnie seems to fit with Kansas, and I am really digging the new track. I've been a fan since I discovered them back in the mid 80's, via one of my brothers' cassette tape of the Best of Kansas. Since then, I became a huge fan and have seen them in concert a few times and got all of their records. I appreciate what each and every Kansas record brought to the table, even though some were, obviously, more successful than others. Unlike a lot of hardcore Steve Walsh fans, I really enjoyed Kansas with John Elefante leading, and I think I'll enjoy them with Ronnie Platt as well.

As great of a lead vocalist as Steve Walsh was for Kansas, I don't think of him as irreplaceable. I felt Kerry Livgrin was the heart and soul of Kansas in terms of song writing. I loved Walsh's vocals in the early years before he left, and then I liked him on the two late 80's albums. But after that, he just didn't sound like the Steve Walsh of old. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know age does something to a voice, but he wasn't that old in the 1990's. It seems like all through that decade, he just sounded horrible. However, I do think he really improved his vocals in the 2000's, and kept it sharp. I thought he sounded great on their last live DVD.

But don't get me wrong, I loved Steve Walsh and definitely think of him as Kansas, but I am very excited with their new direction and new music. I don't know how much longer Richard Williams or Phil Ehart will keep it up, or even Billy Greer for that matter. Like Walsh, they are all in their mid 60's, but I hope this won't be the only album with Platt. I'm hoping for a resurgence with Kansas. I have definitely gotten excited about wanting to see them live again.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:03 am
by verslibre
Yoda wrote:As great of a lead vocalist as Steve Walsh was for Kansas, I don't think of him as irreplaceable. I felt Kerry Livgren was the heart and soul of Kansas in terms of song writing.


He absolutely was. All the Kansas albums of the 70s display exemplary writing. It's in the mid-'80s where things get uneven (Audio-Visions and Vinyl Confessions are great albums). Kerry's first solo record Seeds of Change is freakin' killer!

Yoda wrote:I loved Walsh's vocals in the early years before he left, and then I liked him on the two late 80's albums. But after that, he just didn't sound like the Steve Walsh of old. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know age does something to a voice, but he wasn't that old in the 1990's. It seems like all through that decade, he just sounded horrible. However, I do think he really improved his vocals in the 2000's, and kept it sharp. I thought he sounded great on their last live DVD.


He did sound thrashed in the '90s. I wasn't sure what happened to Walsh-the-vocal-god of the '70s Kansas albums. His 1980 solo album, Schemer Dreamer, is awesome.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:04 am
by Yoda
Surprisingly enough, I have yet to listen to Steve's first solo album. I have his second solo album, Glossolalia. Not an album I would have ever imagined hearing from Steve Walsh. Very unusual album. I also haven't listened to any of Kerry's solo stuff either. Not that I haven't wanted to, I just have never given myself a chance to sit down and listen to any of it. I have heard (and own) the Seventh Key albums, all of John Elefante's solo stuff, and some miscellaneous tracks that Walsh had lend his vocals to for other artists. Oh, and also Steve's work with Streets.

For what's worth, I'd probably buy another Steve Walsh solo album if he chooses to record another one. I would hope it would be more along the lines of a hybrid Streets/Kansas thing though.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:07 am
by verslibre
Yoda wrote:I also haven't listened to any of Kerry's solo stuff either.


:!: Get Seeds of Change yesterday!!

Get Schemer Dreamer, too, while you're at it. That's primo stuff.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:41 am
by scarab
loved Schemer Dreamer and Seeds of change, as wells as Walsh's Streets 1st and the 1st side of the Crimes in Mind.
1st full song has been dropped and sounds like classic Kansas to me.
https://soundcloud.com/officialinsideou ... ew/s-LxqaB

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:37 am
by Yoda
verslibre wrote:
Yoda wrote:I also haven't listened to any of Kerry's solo stuff either.


:!: Get Seeds of Change yesterday!!

Get Schemer Dreamer, too, while you're at it. That's primo stuff.


I was able to listen to Schemer Dreamer on Spotify. I liked it, although I don't like it as much as the Kansas stuff. I'm going to see if Seeds of Change is on there too.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:38 am
by Yoda
scarab wrote:loved Schemer Dreamer and Seeds of change, as wells as Walsh's Streets 1st and the 1st side of the Crimes in Mind.
1st full song has been dropped and sounds like classic Kansas to me.
https://soundcloud.com/officialinsideou ... ew/s-LxqaB


Loved the Streets CDs. I've listened to the new Kansas song. Sounds exactly like classic Kansas to me. Wonder how Ronnie Platt would sound on some of the John Elefante tracks?

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:00 pm
by scarab

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:39 am
by AR
I liked the clips I heard. I have seen the new lineup live and really enjoyed it. Ronnie Platt is excellent.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:28 am
by scarab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7zyTxaATg

I actually think Platt sounds more like Elefante than Walsh.
Hated to see Walsh go, but Platt seems like a VERY humble guy and very proud to get the chance.
Will I see them live, probably not, but looking forward to hearing new music. (Its been 16 years)

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:57 am
by conversationpc
Yoda wrote:As great of a lead vocalist as Steve Walsh was for Kansas, I don't think of him as irreplaceable. I felt Kerry Livgrin was the heart and soul of Kansas in terms of song writing. I loved Walsh's vocals in the early years before he left, and then I liked him on the two late 80's albums. But after that, he just didn't sound like the Steve Walsh of old. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know age does something to a voice, but he wasn't that old in the 1990's. It seems like all through that decade, he just sounded horrible. However, I do think he really improved his vocals in the 2000's, and kept it sharp. I thought he sounded great on their last live DVD.


This is exactly what I've been saying. His voice was at its worst from the early to late 90s and then gradually began improving when he got clean and sober. He hasn't sounded magical since the early to mid 80s but I heard glimpses of that magic every now and then over the last 15 years or so. I'm glad he went out on his own terms.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:00 am
by conversationpc
As for what I've heard of the new album, it sounds like it will be good but it's missing the classic Kansas sound. It's hard to describe just what that is but it's obvious to me. That doesn't mean it can't be good, like the two albums from the Steve Morse era. It's just different.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:53 am
by S2M
Power was good, In the Spirit of Things was not...lol

:lol:

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:19 am
by rsimpson
S2M wrote:Power was good, In the Spirit of Things was not...lol

:lol:

In The Spirit Of Things has one of favorite Kansas songs. Inside Of Me. I did see them the a couple weeks of go with new singer. Sounded great. I think the additional musicians on stage helps fill out the sound. Closet Chronicles sounded really good.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:45 am
by S2M
rsimpson wrote:
S2M wrote:Power was good, In the Spirit of Things was not...lol

:lol:

In The Spirit Of Things has one of favorite Kansas songs. Inside Of Me. I did see them the a couple weeks of go with new singer. Sounded great. I think the additional musicians on stage helps fill out the sound. Closet Chronicles sounded really good.



I really don't mind ItSoT. It's just a running joke between Dave & I. :lol:

Leftovertrue will always be my favorite album, followed by PoKR.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:33 am
by rsimpson
S2M wrote:
rsimpson wrote:
S2M wrote:Power was good, In the Spirit of Things was not...lol

:lol:

In The Spirit Of Things has one of favorite Kansas songs. Inside Of Me. I did see them the a couple weeks of go with new singer. Sounded great. I think the additional musicians on stage helps fill out the sound. Closet Chronicles sounded really good.



I really don't mind ItSoT. It's just a running joke between Dave & I. :lol:

Leftovertrue will always be my favorite album, followed by PoKR.

I'm more into Kansas and Song For America. I really like Freaks of Nature too, just wish Steve was in better voice for that one.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:14 am
by S2M
Freaks of Nature was decent.

First 4 tracks were good, with 'Black Fathom 4' being my fave.

This release, along with the absolutely HORRIBLE 'Live at the Whisky', are their worst efforts, IMHO.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:45 am
by scarab
Not sure if it was a label thing but the worst part of ITSOT was the outside writers. Did the label say you have to have another All I Wanted so they did Stand Beside me, which doesnt sound like Kansas or the theme of the record at all.
Power IIRC only had one outside song, which was a bad attempt at a 80;s power ballad Cant Cry Anymore.

Ghosts
Inside of Me
House on Fire
Counted on Love
Rainmaker
BElls of Saint James

are classics.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:25 am
by conversationpc
S2M wrote:I really don't mind ItSoT. It's just a running joke between Dave & I. :lol:


Running? When? Where? Can't place it...



:D

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:28 am
by conversationpc
scarab wrote:Power IIRC only had one outside song, which was a bad attempt at a 80;s power ballad Cant Cry Anymore.


The only song I can't stand on "Power" is "Secret Service". Besides that, "Silhouettes in Disguise", "Taking in the View", and the title track are all top-notch songs, in my opinion. The others besides the above-named "Secret Service" are good as well.

Ghosts
Inside of Me
House on Fire
Counted on Love
Rainmaker
BElls of Saint James


"Ghosts", "Rainmaker", and especially "The Bells of Saint James" are great songs.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:58 am
by scarab
Silhouettes in Disguise is one one Kansas's best rockers,
I agree with Secret Service, its okay at best, and the music to Tomb 19 are great, but the lyrics are jut silly.



Tomb 19 was sacred 1000 years or more
The Mayan king was restless a curse upon the door
His shrouds of royal fabric his journey to be made
To offer spirits good and evil 14 beads of sale

The jade had ancient power or so beliefs allege
To anyone who plundered they would drive him to the edge

If you take the treasures of Tomb 19
Let the curse remind you
Take the treasures of Tomb 19
But never look behind you

But of Course, You cant get much worse than the lyrics to Andi or Perfect Lover :lol:

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:18 pm
by StoneCold
Odd how many different sounds Kansas has.

Used to be you could hear one song from a band and know it was THAT band. VH, Boston etc

Kansas had that in the 70s but my favorite song from them doesn't sound like "Kansas" at all.

Love the intro that just keeps going.

FFWF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuFkavneS60

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:05 pm
by rsimpson
conversationpc wrote:
scarab wrote:Power IIRC only had one outside song, which was a bad attempt at a 80;s power ballad Cant Cry Anymore.


The only song I can't stand on "Power" is "Secret Service". Besides that, "Silhouettes in Disguise", "Taking in the View", and the title track are all top-notch songs, in my opinion. The others besides the above-named "Secret Service" are good as well.

Ghosts
Inside of Me
House on Fire
Counted on Love
Rainmaker
BElls of Saint James


"Ghosts", "Rainmaker", and especially "The Bells of Saint James" are great songs.

Got to hear Ghosts and Rainmaker at DVD shoot with Steve Morse. Great show.

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:12 am
by scarab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAT_R3Jages

great sound, a mix of Somewhere to Elsewhere and classic Kansas.
Anyone have the writing credits?
Sure sounds like Livgren

Re: New Kansas

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:28 am
by S2M
Release has been out awhile now.

Thoughts?