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Postby Boomchild » Thu May 10, 2018 12:46 pm

tj wrote:My recollection, perhaps incorrect, is that the Carter administration froze all Iranian assets in the US at the time. It seems like it would have been a lot more than $400mil. Perhaps I was wrong.


What I'm asking for is an official statement from the Obama admin. or some federal agency that explains that specific cash delivery. I believe there has not been any official statement on it.
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Postby Fact Finder » Thu May 10, 2018 12:58 pm

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tj wrote:My recollection, perhaps incorrect, is that the Carter administration froze all Iranian assets in the US at the time. It seems like it would have been a lot more than $400mil. Perhaps I was wrong.


What I'm asking for is an official statement from the Obama admin. or some federal agency that explains that specific cash delivery. I believe there has not been any official statement on it.


Google “ judgement fund Iran”, I linked a bit above. The whole mess is there.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu May 10, 2018 1:03 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Everything you need to know about the Iran repayment time is here..

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2 ... e-details/


If this article is accurate then I am referring to a different event. From the article, the principle (400M) was transacted through a Swiss bank and disbursed to an official from Iran's Central Bank.

The interest (1.7B) was disbursed by a Dutch bank to an official from Iran's Central Bank.

What I am talking about is the billion+ cash in I believe U.S. dollars that was loaded onto pallets and flown by U.S. military planes directly to Iran.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Fact Finder » Thu May 10, 2018 1:49 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Everything you need to know about the Iran repayment time is here..

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2 ... e-details/


If this article is accurate then I am referring to a different event. From the article, the principle (400M) was transacted through a Swiss bank and disbursed to an official from Iran's Central Bank.

The interest (1.7B) was disbursed by a Dutch bank to an official from Iran's Central Bank.

What I am talking about is the billion+ cash in I believe U.S. dollars that was loaded onto pallets and flown by U.S. military planes directly to Iran.


Article states 1.3 billions in Euros handed over..

Since the Judgment Fund does not allow the processing of individual claims of amounts over ten digits, the agreed upon interest—$1.3 billion—was split into 13 claims of $99,999,999.99 and one claim of the remaining $10,390,236.28. These amounts were transferred from the Judgment Fund to the Dutch National Bank, where they were converted into euros and withdrawn in euro banknotes. The Dutch bank then disbursed the notes to a representative from the Central Bank of Iran.

WHY CASH?

This remains the most contested aspect of the episode. In their testimonies, administration officials stated that they were not aware of specific Iranian requests for cash. Instead, they suggested post-deal difficulties in accessing the international banking system influenced their decision. Treasury Department Assistant General Counsel for Enforcement and Intelligence Paul Ahern testified that “cash was the most reliable way to ensure [Iran] received the funds in a timely manner, and it was the method preferred by the relevant central banks.”

U.S. officials have also noted that the terms of the settlement stipulated immediate payment. As Backemeyer stated, “we have seen difficulties with global banks being willing to engage in these particular transactions, and this was the way, this was the mechanism that we felt we could guarantee immediate payment. And that immediate payment was critical to getting the favorable settlement that we did.”

However, several experts and former senior officials have challenged this explanation, noting that wire transfers were utilized before the January payment in a July 2015 settlement of Tribunal claims for architectural drawings and fossils, and that they have been used since for compensating Tehran for nuclear materials in April 2016.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 10, 2018 2:18 pm

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verslibre wrote:I don't think Mel spreads for him. Good thing he can pay for it. :lol:


I think you meant to say HRC for WJC.


Maybe she does for Huma. Huma seems to be obsessed with HRC, in a creepy kind of way.
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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Win after win after win.

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They should be concerned. Remember their polls that had Hillary winning, done deal? There was an earthquake at CNN that day and I suspect there may be another one coming. Here's the deal; socialism doesn't work. Neither does communism, but if you take notice, a lot of the outrage around, is that those ideals were set back a long way. Progressives took a beat down and were set back, way back. I, for one, welcome the continuing beatings. That kind of stinkin' thinkin' needs to become dust in the wind, wings cut off. Some of these people these days are advocating for a basic, government funded income, requiring no effort of their own. Its pretty scary how many support such an idea.

Fortunately, my Dad taught me some things. Life is not fair. Nobody owes you anything. The fittest survive. You get tough and make your own way, or you die. Those kinds of words today, would have snowflakes running for their blankets and pacifiers. We didn't have bullys. If it happened, it happened once. My Dad taught me how to deal with it. He took me out in the back yard and taught me self defense, then he gave me permission to kick the daylights out of anyone who picked on me.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Monker » Fri May 11, 2018 4:19 am

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True leaders do not "need" followers. They go where they go regardless of who is with them. People follow true leaders not out of a "loyalty pledge" but because they believe in the person, they are inspired by that person, they want to go where that person is going.


You just described Trump and his (“followers/voters”) to a tee. The man does what he says, follows through on promises to the best of his ability and what Congress will give him, and he means what he says no matter how twisted CNN makes him seem. I’m going to follow Donald thru Hell wearing a gasoline suit. Yes, I’m fawning over the guy, just look at Melania and his golden toilet, what is not to like? Remember when the “pussy” tape came out and Ryan and others distanced themselves from Trump, Trump tweeted that they didn’t know how to win and that he would show them how to win. And he did. Sucks to be you guys for 7 more years. Oh, and Ryan is gone.. loOOser! :lol:


You didn't read what I said. I said "leaders don't need followers." Trump NEEDS followers. It is part of who he is. He is obsessed with ratings and polls...and has exagerated and lied about both, including the size of his innaguation crowd. He asks people close to him to pledge loyalty. He NEEDS people to follow him, probably so he feels accepted, popular, and important. That is a narcissist, not a leader.

I doubt that Trump is going to make it through 4yrs...forget about 8. If somebody decent ran against him in the primaries, they may even win. If he does make reelection, all Democrats have to do is get people to vote. The last election, voting was supressed. Both sides had fewer people vote, and the Democrats were worse...especially among blacks and other minorities. It's a myth that the Democrats who switched sides made a huge difference. Both sides had people swapping...to very little impact. Trump, even at his best, does not attract a majority of Americans. Remember - HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE...by MILLIONS of votes. I personaly know some Republicans who have switched parties because of this.

All of the womanizing is also going to haunt him next election. Yeah, look at Melania...she doesn't even want to hold Trump's hand. What's not to like? The other women that hand has touched. I think you are underestimating the affect alienating Republican woman is going to have on the party as Republicans are now the party that has no morals or scruples of any kind. Anything goes, as long as corporations and the rich get a huge tax cut.

With how fast gasoline prices are increasing, that is going to be an expensive suit.
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri May 11, 2018 4:29 am

Monker wrote: "leaders don't need followers."


Sorry, that's self contradictory.

What are they leading if nobody is following? Who votes for them? Who attends their inauguration?
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Postby Monker » Fri May 11, 2018 4:34 am

ohsherrie wrote:I know all that. My parents explained that to me at the time. What I don't understand is how those Protestant/Catholic feelings could still exist then or now. They are both Christian religions.


Because it's racism being passed from generation to generation. It's as simple as that. Prior to 9/11, Islam was not viewed anywhere close to being this hate filled and religion of terrorism and violence. Look at "Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves" or the old Sinbad movies, or one of my favorites, "13th Warrior". In general, Islam was not seen as anything different than any other religion. But, now, it is being passed down to the younger generations that Islam is a terrorist religion to be feared. It's the same type of thing.

ohsherrie wrote:Obama was greatly admired even by me because I had such high hopes for him, and I had a hard time letting go of that until Black Lives Matter was allowed to run rampant and Cops were assassinated daily. He would probably like to think he was almost sanctified but to quote Senator Lloyd Bentsen, Obama is "no Jack Kennedy". The only ones whimpering over him are the stupid and the ignorant.


Monker wrote:Sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

Lloyd Benson said that to Dan Quayle because Quayle was constantly comparing himself to JFK, due to his young age and inexperience. Benson obviously had that line ready to go and when Quayle invoked JFK in the debate, he unleashed it. The full quote is, "Senator, I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. You are no Jack Kennedy." It embarressed Quayle and his only reply was to say that the comment was uncalled for...but after that, Quayle comparing himself to JFK had little positive affect.


Sorry, but that's just your opinion. My comparison to JFK was in response to Boomchild saying she hadn't seen another president as fawned over as Obama since JFK. I used the Bentson quote because I like it.


You can like it all you want...but simply saying Obama is no JFK is a simple minded view of a quote that had a much deeper meaning when it was said.

I do not recall Obama ever comparing himself to JFK.


Nobody said he did.

If something like that was said to Obama, IMO, he would probably say he was honored that you felt it fitting to be making the comparison in the first place.True leaders do not "need" followers. They go where they go regardless of who is with them. People follow true leaders not out of a "loyalty pledge" but because they believe in the person, they are inspired by that person, they want to go where that person is going.


Fawn much?


That's not 'fawning', it's telling the truth. Obama did not let such petty things get to him that much and usually had a witty remark to say back. Someone like Clinton did let certain things get to him and he would eventually fight back - usually to his detriment. Trump would make up some stupid comment in a Tweet.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Monker » Fri May 11, 2018 4:43 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Monker wrote: "leaders don't need followers."


Sorry, that's self contradictory.

What are they leading if nobody is following? Who votes for them? Who attends their inauguration?


Considering the type of "leader" you are following in Trump, it's not surprising you don't understand.

It's not part of a true leader's motivation to NEED followers. Trump NEEDS followers as part of his psyche to feel "good". If NOBODY followed Trump, he would probably be depressed and suicidal...honestly. This is not anything new for him, either. He has been this way his entire adult life. Someone like Obama does not need a bunch of followers...if he did, he would be out there right now constantly rallying people against Trump, or whoever, to get the thrill of people following his lead. I bet if he gave an interview today, he would say he is perfectly content and happy living a life outside of politics.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 11, 2018 5:18 am

Monker wrote:True leaders do not "need" followers. They go where they go regardless of who is with them. People follow true leaders not out of a "loyalty pledge" but because they believe in the person, they are inspired by that person, they want to go where that person is going. That is the difference between Obama's leadership and Trump and his "loyalty pledge" and his paranoia of people not believing in him enough to follow him. Trump is not even close to Obama, Clinton, Reagan, or JFK. His is more akin to Nixon, who had the same type of paranoia...and the same type of zombie like followers.


If Obama was such a true leader how come he caved to his donors on NAFTA, card check, and public option?
Real leaders use the bully pulpit to sway opinion not to regurgitate poll tested sound-bytes.
Trump may have his fans but it is nothing compared to the cult of Obama that clung to every single teleprompter word.

Monker wrote:I doubt anybody views Trump in a religious way. It's more like a cultish way. You do and believe whatever he says with loyalty and devotion. it's a way to praise for Trump. His words supercede all else, even the Constitution and long term principles on how the government functions. He writes his own rules, even if he is just making it up as he goes along, and you blindly follow, because it's "Trump". That's not leadership, that's blind faith in a deeply flawed person who has convinced you to agree to be "loyal".


You are describing yourself again. Many of us on here have criticized Trump policies on a range of issues - including Syria and marijuana. Meanwhile, you are the only poster in MR history caught inventing total lies to support a politician (“Hillary had permission to use a private server!). Fuck off you sanctimonious hack.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 11, 2018 5:27 am

Monker wrote: Someone like Obama does not need a bunch of followers...if he did, he would be out there right now constantly rallying people against Trump, or whoever, to get the thrill of people following his lead. I bet if he gave an interview today, he would say he is perfectly content and happy living a life outside of politics.


Unlike others presidents who retire to a ranch and oversee their library, Obama has been actively meeting with world leaders around the globe. In speeches, he has been commenting on the current state of America. Both O and his wife were given a 60 million advance for book deals which will also involve a whirlwind media blitz. To the contrary, he has not been "living a life outside of politics" at all. You just make up bullshit.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby verslibre » Fri May 11, 2018 5:28 am

Boomchild wrote:
verslibre wrote:I don't think Mel spreads for him. Good thing he can pay for it. :lol:


I think you meant to say HRC for WJC.


She dried up ages ago, dude. Stick to the current peeps. :lol:
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Postby verslibre » Fri May 11, 2018 5:30 am

Boomchild wrote:
verslibre wrote:...ahem...ohsherrie, do you know the definition of fawn? I see a lot of fawning over Cheetoman in this thread. :lol:


Your mistaken. People are expressing their appreciation for the job Trump is doing. He is sticking to things he said he was going to do. Those that voted for him feel he is accomplishing things we expected from him.


You're mistaken. FF fessed up, and proudly. Learn to own it. :lol:
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri May 11, 2018 6:01 am

Monker wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Monker wrote: "leaders don't need followers."


Sorry, that's self contradictory.

What are they leading if nobody is following? Who votes for them? Who attends their inauguration?


Considering the type of "leader" you are following in Trump, it's not surprising you don't understand.


It's surprising to me that you don't understand that in order for somebody to lead, somebody must follow.

It's not part of a true leader's motivation to NEED followers. Trump NEEDS followers as part of his psyche to feel "good". If NOBODY followed Trump, he would probably be depressed and suicidal...honestly. This is not anything new for him, either. He has been this way his entire adult life.


When did you get your degree in psychology?

Someone like Obama does not need a bunch of followers...if he did, he would be out there right now constantly rallying people against Trump, or whoever, to get the thrill of people following his lead. I bet if he gave an interview today, he would say he is perfectly content and happy living a life outside of politics.


Obama does his recruiting by email. My husband and used to I get "Organizing for Action" emails all the time Until we unsubscribed.

If you really believe he's living outside of politics you really are goofy over him?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 11, 2018 6:17 am

ohsherrie wrote:Obama does his recruiting by email. My husband and used to I get "Organizing for Action" emails all the time Until we unsubscribed.

If you really believe he's living outside of politics you really are goofy over him?


Yup. And those Pacs are still active.
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri May 11, 2018 6:38 am

Monker wrote:In general, Islam was not seen as anything different than any other religion. But, now, it is being passed down to the younger generations that Islam is a terrorist religion to be feared. It's the same type of thing.


Except the Catholics never declared a holy war on this country and killed thousands of people on our soil. The Catholic religion doesn't try to ignore our laws in favor of their theocratic beliefs, Muslims do. It's not the same thing at all and you're a really twisted person if you truly think it is.
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Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Fri May 11, 2018 10:55 am

ohsherrie wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3334249/State-Department-says-Iran-NEVER-SIGNED-nuclear-deal-s-not-legally-binding-tells-Congress-butt-Obama-s-political-commitments.html

Was it ever signed?


No it was not. Nor was it passed by congress.
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Fact Finder wrote:Donald J. Trump
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri May 11, 2018 12:15 pm

A Rigged System - They don’t want to turn over Documents to Congress. What are they afraid of? Why so much redacting? Why such unequal “justice?” At some point I will have no choice but to use the powers granted to the Presidency and get involved!
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Starting to get fun..


BREAKING: The FBI had spies working from within the Trump campaign as part of their effort to dig up dirt on President Trump

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Postby Boomchild » Fri May 11, 2018 1:44 pm

verslibre wrote:She dried up ages ago, dude. Stick to the current peeps. :lol:


It's disturbing to think how you would know such a thing about HRC. Since I'm sure Billy Bob never stopped his extra curricular activities he would be "current".
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Postby Boomchild » Fri May 11, 2018 1:46 pm

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You're mistaken. FF fessed up, and proudly. Learn to own it. :lol:


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Postby Boomchild » Fri May 11, 2018 1:50 pm

ohsherrie wrote:If you really believe he's living outside of politics you really are goofy over him?


Remember when he said that even though he was leaving office and going back to private life he would keep an eye on things and if he felt he needed to comment or participate he would?
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Postby verslibre » Fri May 11, 2018 4:15 pm

Boomchild wrote:
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You're mistaken. FF fessed up, and proudly. Learn to own it. :lol:


One person does not make a group.


Good thing the comments of others suggest otherwise, huh? :lol:
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Postby verslibre » Fri May 11, 2018 4:16 pm

Boomchild wrote:It's disturbing to think how you would know such a thing about HRC.


Look at you, trying to make a thing out of a thing. :lol:
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