The FOUR Times Indicted Crook Thread

[Aaron]

100% agree, and it will take a civil to fix it.

Mac, 99.9% of the people in DC are an enemy of the citizenship. They are all uniparty.

The American political system is broken.

One person - one vote. Ditch the Electoral College system...beyond stupid. Unify all states under one system of voting. Pretty simple stuff really.

[Andrew]

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

How could ANYONE take the Jan 6 footage in any other context than a riot of MAGALOONS?

[Pelata]

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

How could ANYONE take the Jan 6 footage in any other context than a riot of MAGALOONS?

Because it's a cult.

[Monker]

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

At the time, I flipped through CNN, MSNBC and FOX and NONE of them were saying, "Oh, look, they are letting everybody into the capital!" That is bullshit...and I don't believe that you watched it live because of it. Even FOX was overwhelmed by what was happening and how to defend Trump.

IMO, EVERYBODY who entered the capital building should be in jail right now. Anybody who believes in this country and the Constitution would agree. Those who don't agree need to pack their bags for Russia, North Korea, or China to live under the type of government they want here. If Trump loves the leaders of those countries so much, he should be the first to go, followed by Tucker Carlson who seems to love Russia now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics ... index.html

"Facts First: The claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false. Again, about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building."

"Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger said on CNN in September: “The officers that we have investigated and disciplined, the cases that we investigated, they run from minor infractions to officers making very poor judgments for more serious misconduct. But this notion that the Capitol Police were somehow allowing these folks into the Capitol, inviting them in, helping them, just simply not true.”

I wish someone would propose to commission a memorial piece to be created and put on display in the capitol building to recognize the capital police officers defending the building that day. THEY are the ones who should be remembered, not the low life losers who attacked the building, building gallows and screaming "hang Mike Pence", who took ever the House chamber searching for Nancy Pelosi, assaulting the officers, disgracing the inside of the building. They should be demonized by history...and so should Trump for being their leader.

[Pelata]

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

At the time, I flipped through CNN, MSNBC and FOX and NONE of them were saying, "Oh, look, they are letting everybody into the capital!" That is bullshit...and I don't believe that you watched it live because of it. Even FOX was overwhelmed by what was happening and how to defend Trump.

IMO, EVERYBODY who entered the capital building should be in jail right now. Anybody who believes in this country and the Constitution would agree. Those who don't agree need to pack their bags for Russia, North Korea, or China to live under the type of government they want here. If Trump loves the leaders of those countries so much, he should be the first to go, followed by Tucker Carlson who seems to love Russia now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics ... index.html

"Facts First: The claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false. Again, about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building."

"Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger said on CNN in September: “The officers that we have investigated and disciplined, the cases that we investigated, they run from minor infractions to officers making very poor judgments for more serious misconduct. But this notion that the Capitol Police were somehow allowing these folks into the Capitol, inviting them in, helping them, just simply not true.”

I wish someone would propose to commission a memorial piece to be created and put on display in the capitol building to recognize the capital police officers defending the building that day. THEY are the ones who should be remembered, not the low life losers who attacked the building, building gallows and screaming "hang Mike Pence", who took ever the House chamber searching for Nancy Pelosi, assaulting the officers, disgracing the inside of the building. They should be demonized by history...and so should Trump for being their leader.

Good luck trying to convince a Trump fan that CNN is a credible news source.

[Andrew]

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

How could ANYONE take the Jan 6 footage in any other context than a riot of MAGALOONS?

Because it's a cult.

It really is. What shits me the most is the 24/7 projection - allegations about Democrats and the media that they themselves have been doing the whole time, with the cult not even caring.

[Andrew]

Good luck trying to convince a Trump fan..OF ANYTHING.

Fixed that for ya.

[Pelata]

Because it's a cult.

It really is. What shits me the most is the 24/7 projection - allegations about Democrats and the media that they themselves have been doing the whole time, with the cult not even caring.

It's what cults do. The leader is always right and anything in opposition is obviously a set-up to try and hurt the leader. They're "awakened", they've "done the research", and they believe every shit-coated syllable coming out of his mouth.

[ebake02]

It's what cults do. The leader is always right and anything in opposition is obviously a set-up to try and hurt the leader. They're "awakened", they've "done the research", and they believe every shit-coated syllable coming out of his mouth.

All he has to do is throw out some recycled MAGA buzz words like "Woke" and his gullible followers eat it up and repeat every word, it's like a dog whistle for idiots.

[Pelata]

I feel bad for some Trump followers...especially the particularly rabid ones...because they're obviously afraid of something. Afraid of immigrants, afraid of someone taking their guns, afraid of communism, afraid of socialism, afraid of any kind of change they don't understand.

It's the same type of folks who called seatbelt laws "communist" back in the early 80s.

[Andrew]

I feel bad for some Trump followers...especially the particularly rabid ones...because they're obviously afraid of something. Afraid of immigrants, afraid of someone taking their guns, afraid of communism, afraid of socialism, afraid of any kind of change they don't understand.

It's the same type of folks who called seatbelt laws "communist" back in the early 80s.

Seems to be the general mantra for ultra-conservatives. Someone is always coming for them...

[Andrew]

It's what cults do. The leader is always right and anything in opposition is obviously a set-up to try and hurt the leader. They're "awakened", they've "done the research", and they believe every shit-coated syllable coming out of his mouth.

All he has to do is throw out some recycled MAGA buzz words like "Woke" and his gullible followers eat it up and repeat every word, it's like a dog whistle for idiots.

Cheeto-Jesus.

[Aaron]

I watched it real time as it was happening. Did you?

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

How could ANYONE take the Jan 6 footage in any other context than a riot of MAGALOONS?

[Aaron]

You're making broad sweeping claims that aren't correct. And I don't appreciate being called a liar. I watched it and I would almost guarantee you didn't. And this is the problem, rational people can't have a reasonable conversation that have different views. However, when it gets down to it, people like me will be ready for what is necessary.

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

At the time, I flipped through CNN, MSNBC and FOX and NONE of them were saying, "Oh, look, they are letting everybody into the capital!" That is bullshit...and I don't believe that you watched it live because of it. Even FOX was overwhelmed by what was happening and how to defend Trump.

IMO, EVERYBODY who entered the capital building should be in jail right now. Anybody who believes in this country and the Constitution would agree. Those who don't agree need to pack their bags for Russia, North Korea, or China to live under the type of government they want here. If Trump loves the leaders of those countries so much, he should be the first to go, followed by Tucker Carlson who seems to love Russia now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics ... index.html

"Facts First: The claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false. Again, about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building."

"Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger said on CNN in September: “The officers that we have investigated and disciplined, the cases that we investigated, they run from minor infractions to officers making very poor judgments for more serious misconduct. But this notion that the Capitol Police were somehow allowing these folks into the Capitol, inviting them in, helping them, just simply not true.”

I wish someone would propose to commission a memorial piece to be created and put on display in the capitol building to recognize the capital police officers defending the building that day. THEY are the ones who should be remembered, not the low life losers who attacked the building, building gallows and screaming "hang Mike Pence", who took ever the House chamber searching for Nancy Pelosi, assaulting the officers, disgracing the inside of the building. They should be demonized by history...and so should Trump for being their leader.

[Aaron]

Ha, they look to be more credible than Fox News today. If you don't see it with your own eyes ....

I've just lost faith in you sir. I watched 1/6 real time and watched the gates drop so people could come in. I don't think you're using your own eyes but listening to bs. I'm disappointed.

At the time, I flipped through CNN, MSNBC and FOX and NONE of them were saying, "Oh, look, they are letting everybody into the capital!" That is bullshit...and I don't believe that you watched it live because of it. Even FOX was overwhelmed by what was happening and how to defend Trump.

IMO, EVERYBODY who entered the capital building should be in jail right now. Anybody who believes in this country and the Constitution would agree. Those who don't agree need to pack their bags for Russia, North Korea, or China to live under the type of government they want here. If Trump loves the leaders of those countries so much, he should be the first to go, followed by Tucker Carlson who seems to love Russia now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics ... index.html

"Facts First: The claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false. Again, about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building."

"Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger said on CNN in September: “The officers that we have investigated and disciplined, the cases that we investigated, they run from minor infractions to officers making very poor judgments for more serious misconduct. But this notion that the Capitol Police were somehow allowing these folks into the Capitol, inviting them in, helping them, just simply not true.”

I wish someone would propose to commission a memorial piece to be created and put on display in the capitol building to recognize the capital police officers defending the building that day. THEY are the ones who should be remembered, not the low life losers who attacked the building, building gallows and screaming "hang Mike Pence", who took ever the House chamber searching for Nancy Pelosi, assaulting the officers, disgracing the inside of the building. They should be demonized by history...and so should Trump for being their leader.

Good luck trying to convince a Trump fan that CNN is a credible news source.

[Aaron]

4.0 Masters in Engineering here sir, how about you?

Good luck trying to convince a Trump fan..OF ANYTHING.

Fixed that for ya.

[Aaron]

Nah we just don't like being robbed by people that we don't know. Illegal invaders get more than our vets that fought for us and you. Tell me that's right.

I feel bad for some Trump followers...especially the particularly rabid ones...because they're obviously afraid of something. Afraid of immigrants, afraid of someone taking their guns, afraid of communism, afraid of socialism, afraid of any kind of change they don't understand.

It's the same type of folks who called seatbelt laws "communist" back in the early 80s.

[Aaron]

I don't agree on much with you on this topic. However, I appreciate very much not being cancelled like most other platforms. Thank you sir!

Did I mention I live here?

It's what cults do. The leader is always right and anything in opposition is obviously a set-up to try and hurt the leader. They're "awakened", they've "done the research", and they believe every shit-coated syllable coming out of his mouth.

All he has to do is throw out some recycled MAGA buzz words like "Woke" and his gullible followers eat it up and repeat every word, it's like a dog whistle for idiots.

Cheeto-Jesus.

[Andrew]

I watched it real time as it was happening. Did you?

Yes. It was a riot of MAGAloons.

[Andrew]

4.0 Masters in Engineering here sir, how about you?

28 years of running a stupid message board...how's that?

But seriously - this is what confounds me about the small % of Trumpers that actually have a brain cell - why follow such an obvious charlatan and crook?

[Pelata]

Nah we just don't like being robbed by people that we don't know. Illegal invaders get more than our vets that fought for us and you. Tell me that's right.

I feel bad for some Trump followers...especially the particularly rabid ones...because they're obviously afraid of something. Afraid of immigrants, afraid of someone taking their guns, afraid of communism, afraid of socialism, afraid of any kind of change they don't understand.

It's the same type of folks who called seatbelt laws "communist" back in the early 80s.

It's not the fault of an illegal immigrant what the government chooses to spend money on.

As for that, let's look at it:

$269 billion, the amount the Veteran Affairs department received in fiscal year 2022. Most of that money goes to help veterans with health care, housing, job training and a host of other services.

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-d ... /20543042/

The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) spends the fifth most of all federal agencies, accounting for 5% of federal spending. VA expenditures have almost tripled in the last 20 years, from $70 billion in fiscal year 2000 to $200 billion in fiscal year 2019 , adjusted for inflation.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much- ... ending-us/

The FAIR study, released in March last year, documented the financial toll of illegal immigration on the U.S., taking into account factors like emergency medical care, incarcerating illegal aliens in local jails, and federal budgets that pay out billions in welfare every year, pegging the net annual cost at $150.7 billion. Arriving at the figure by subtracting the estimated $32 billion of tax contributions made by illegal immigrants, FAIR said the economic impact would have otherwise been $182 billion. In 2017, the U.S. spent roughly $116 billion on illegal immigration, suggesting that the problem is a growing one.

https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigr ... en-1866555

A new cost study report by FAIR finds that as of 2022, American taxpayers shell out at least $151 billion each year to cover the cost of illegal immigration. Broken down, the data reveals that taxpayers pay $182 billion annually to provide services and benefits to illegal aliens and their dependents.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publicatio ... ayers-2023

Yes, Illegal Immigration is a problem we need to address and fix as a nation. But the US is NOT spending more on that than on military veterans.

[Andrew]

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

[Pelata]

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

If I let them fix it, I can't complain about it...duh!

[Monker]

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

If I let them fix it, I can't complain about it...duh!

And, that's only part of it. It was written by one of the most conservative Republicans in the Senate, James Lankford...who was called out by Biden at the "State of the Union" address...and you could see Lankford mouthing, "that is true" when Biden said the bill was written by conservative Republicans in the Senate. And, Biden endorsed it because Republicans in the House demanded action on the border crisis before funding Ukraine. So, Biden gave them what they wanted, and the House STILL rejected it.

So, it is Republican members of the House who are to blame for the continuing border crisis, not Biden.

[Pelata]

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

If I let them fix it, I can't complain about it...duh!

And, that's only part of it. It was written by one of the most conservative Republicans in the Senate, James Lankford...who was called out by Biden at the "State of the Union" address...and you could see Lankford mouthing, "that is true" when Biden said the bill was written by conservative Republicans in the Senate. And, Biden endorsed it because Republicans in the House demanded action on the border crisis before funding Ukraine. So, Biden gave them what they wanted, and the House STILL rejected it.

So, it is Republican members of the House who are to blame for the continuing border crisis, not Biden.

100%

[Aaron]

Brother I know a lot of people with higher education than I have that support Trump. I think you have to be here to see it and not listen to the media in general.

4.0 Masters in Engineering here sir, how about you?

28 years of running a stupid message board...how's that?

But seriously - this is what confounds me about the small % of Trumpers that actually have a brain cell - why follow such an obvious charlatan and crook?

[Aaron]

I see Vets on the street in Indy while illegals get free money and housing. I'm not sure where the money is going but you've not been on the street much.

Nah we just don't like being robbed by people that we don't know. Illegal invaders get more than our vets that fought for us and you. Tell me that's right.

I feel bad for some Trump followers...especially the particularly rabid ones...because they're obviously afraid of something. Afraid of immigrants, afraid of someone taking their guns, afraid of communism, afraid of socialism, afraid of any kind of change they don't understand.

It's the same type of folks who called seatbelt laws "communist" back in the early 80s.

It's not the fault of an illegal immigrant what the government chooses to spend money on.

As for that, let's look at it:

$269 billion, the amount the Veteran Affairs department received in fiscal year 2022. Most of that money goes to help veterans with health care, housing, job training and a host of other services.

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-d ... /20543042/

The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) spends the fifth most of all federal agencies, accounting for 5% of federal spending. VA expenditures have almost tripled in the last 20 years, from $70 billion in fiscal year 2000 to $200 billion in fiscal year 2019 , adjusted for inflation.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much- ... ending-us/

The FAIR study, released in March last year, documented the financial toll of illegal immigration on the U.S., taking into account factors like emergency medical care, incarcerating illegal aliens in local jails, and federal budgets that pay out billions in welfare every year, pegging the net annual cost at $150.7 billion. Arriving at the figure by subtracting the estimated $32 billion of tax contributions made by illegal immigrants, FAIR said the economic impact would have otherwise been $182 billion. In 2017, the U.S. spent roughly $116 billion on illegal immigration, suggesting that the problem is a growing one.

https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigr ... en-1866555

A new cost study report by FAIR finds that as of 2022, American taxpayers shell out at least $151 billion each year to cover the cost of illegal immigration. Broken down, the data reveals that taxpayers pay $182 billion annually to provide services and benefits to illegal aliens and their dependents.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publicatio ... ayers-2023

Yes, Illegal Immigration is a problem we need to address and fix as a nation. But the US is NOT spending more on that than on military veterans.

[Aaron]

Which one, and what else was included? It really doesn't matter to be honest, the law will not be enforced regardless. That is how corrupt it is now.

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

[Aaron]

-5 people, the D's and the R's are the problem as they are all the same.

Trump killed the bipartisan bill to fix and fund the boarder issue. That tells you all you need to know.

If I let them fix it, I can't complain about it...duh!

And, that's only part of it. It was written by one of the most conservative Republicans in the Senate, James Lankford...who was called out by Biden at the "State of the Union" address...and you could see Lankford mouthing, "that is true" when Biden said the bill was written by conservative Republicans in the Senate. And, Biden endorsed it because Republicans in the House demanded action on the border crisis before funding Ukraine. So, Biden gave them what they wanted, and the House STILL rejected it.

So, it is Republican members of the House who are to blame for the continuing border crisis, not Biden.

[Aaron]

And a great job at that 28 years. Well done sir!

4.0 Masters in Engineering here sir, how about you?

28 years of running a stupid message board...how's that?

But seriously - this is what confounds me about the small % of Trumpers that actually have a brain cell - why follow such an obvious charlatan and crook?