Donald J Trump 'Covfefe & Hamberders' Thread

[ohsherrie]

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You know, if the MSM would acknowledge just half of good things this President has done for this country this Russia and porn star BS wouldn't have any impact. It would be seen for just what it is and hardly anybody would care enough to impact a vote.

[verslibre]

"Unifying" SK & NK would be like mixing oil and water. Not happening.

I think it's best to say never say never. A lot of people including our illustrious news media where thinking HRC was a "shoe in" for POTUS and Trump in no way could become POTUS. Yet they all were proven to be wrong.

Rod'ton was indeed a shoe-in till she screwed up. Drumpf didn't exactly win by a landslide.

Do you honestly think the people of SK want to blend in with NK? Even if the two countries became one Korea again, the "north" and "south" of it would remain.

[Boomchild]

"Unifying" SK & NK would be like mixing oil and water. Not happening.

I think it's best to say never say never. A lot of people including our illustrious news media where thinking HRC was a "shoe in" for POTUS and Trump in no way could become POTUS. Yet they all were proven to be wrong.

Rod'ton was indeed a shoe-in till she screwed up. Drumpf didn't exactly win by a landslide.

Do you honestly think the people of SK want to blend in with NK? Even if the two countries became one Korea again, the "north" and "south" of it would remain.

Who said anything about it being a landslide? The point is that right up to election day the media and others were saying she was going to easily take it and were continuing the stance of NO WAY could Trump win it. Also, don't forget he beat out 16 life long seasoned politicians to win the nomination. This was on his first attempt at public office for the most powerful political position in the country. That in itself was unheard of.

About NK\SK I don't live there so I'm not able to speak to what the population of each think. But the simple fact that they are talking about mending fences is better then the alternative. Things seem to be going in a better direction then the way they were with the past administration.

[Boomchild]

I totally agree, but since we haven't been able to stop slimey behavior altogether in the brick and mortar world they are probably going to exist in the virtual one. If they are going to be here then better in the virtual underbelly than out here where anybody can stumble into it. Also easier for authorities if they're all in the same place.

I don't have an issue with consenting adults that want to place personals to "get their freak on". I'm not that concerned about online prostitution between consenting adults as long as it doesn't cause a disease epidemic. I have an issue with online services used for legit human trafficking as well as child trafficking for sex or otherwise. The reason I think we are here is site owners haven't been doing an effective job at stopping this stuff from occurring. When the height of YT's censoring political content it was exposed that pedos were putting up vids to lure children. It had been going on for over a year and YT wasn't acting on it until it got into the press.

[verslibre]

Hey F.F., who's going to pay for the wall?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -loophole/

Just another hyper-pro-Drumpf op-ed piece.

[ohsherrie]

If people are looking for real relationships there are sites for that where they don't talk in codes.

If you're following this story closely, legit dating sites (like Monker's fav Plenty of Fish) is exactly where solicitation ads have now migrated to. Watch for those sites to shut down next (no surprise there). Since 1996, websites were shielded from liability. Without this immunity, there would be no Facebook, Twitter, no YouTube. By changing the law to hold them accountable, Congress has just struck a twin blow against free speech and internet innovation. It's that simple. Why would any website now host user-generated content if they face potential prosecution?

Why would users risk losing these websites by acting like gutter scum at best and criminals at worst once they are aware of the consequences.

I still don't see holding people accountable for illegal behavior as an infringement on freedom of speech. I've never thought the idea of having a completely lawless virtual world was a good idea. If these sites you mentioned would rather shut down than monitor their content so be it. On the other hand, if users would rather shit in their playground and have it taken away than behave within the law they deserve to lose it.

Actually my friend you're beginning to sound a little like Monker with his dire predictions for the results of everything the President does. I think the mega websites that these scum bags will naturally head for are doing VERY WELL and can put stricter monitoring in place without losing too many millions $$. Did the sporting goods sites shut down when they could no longer direct ship guns?

Places like the Craigslist personals and Backpage were the dark alleys of the slums. Most of the vermin that live there don't last long out in the light with people who don't live in their world.

[ohsherrie]

Don’t ya hate when your book tour is interrupted by a criminal referral live on National TV?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=liQxGN_RS00

The letter they wrote and specific charges they made sound a lot more serious than those idiots on that panel tried to make it seem.

[ohsherrie]

Hey F.F., who's going to pay for the wall?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -loophole/

Yep, that’s from the Reuters article I posted earlier. Hopefully no more back door deals thru Mexico.

Why would that ever have been allowed? I don't see how any of the government administrations of this country since NAFTA was conceived under G.H.W. Bush can claim to have had America's best interests at heart.

[ohsherrie]

ohsherrie wrote:

You know, if the MSM would acknowledge just half of good things this President has done for this country this Russia and porn star BS wouldn't have any impact. It would be seen for just what it is and hardly anybody would care enough to impact a vote.

Curious how the MSM missed this one, it could be huge.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trad ... ce=twitter

They don't want anything good about Trump to spread. They would stop Reuters from reporting it if they could.

[verslibre]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/stormy-daniels-wears-american-flag-bares-new-magazine-cover-184515485.html

[ohsherrie]

Sports broadcaster turned Right Wing host turned Left Wing host turned Russian TV host, Ed Schultz, speaks about MSNBC media bias.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkGu3PDKFIg

Even when I would see him on MSNBC a few years ago when I was still watching TV "news" programs I didn't like him. He seemed over the top to the extent that it all seemed like an act to me. The only thing different about that interview is that he seemed a bit humbled but I'll bet if MSNBC called tomorrow he'd jump right back on board. I don't know if anything he said is genuine.

[ohsherrie]

Curious how the MSM missed this one, it could be huge.

They don't want anything good about Trump to spread. They would stop Reuters from reporting it if they could.

The only reason Trump is MAGA is to help take away attention from Russia, Stormy and Sean Hannity.

They're so oblivious they don't realize he's just shooting tweets at them and then going about the business of rebuilding the country.

[verslibre]

They're so oblivious they don't realize he's just shooting tweets at them and then going about the business of rebuilding the country.

No, they're very aware he's tweeting at them, then tweeting at Comey ("like a break-up he can't get over," to paraphrase what he said about DT on Colbert), then tweeting at them some more, then tweeting about whatever, and every now and then he throws a sideward glance at "policy." Don't kid yourself.

[steveo777]

https://www.scribd.com/document/376717601/Final-Criminal-Referral#from_embed

Footnote #17 is interesting.

Sessions at bat.

Now let's see if he has the balls to take the swing. I still feel like there is someone who pulls his strings.

[ohsherrie]

https://www.scribd.com/document/376717601/Final-Criminal-Referral#from_embed

Footnote #17 is interesting.

Sessions at bat.

Now let's see if he has the balls to take the swing. I still feel like there is someone who pulls his strings.

Me too and it definitely isn't his boss. Sessions has something to hide.

[steveo777]

Here's a good read on one of F.F.'s earlier posts.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... tor-huber/

How much teeth does this referral really have? Is this gonna be like Clinton being grilled for hours and hours,while lying her ass off, then let off the hook? I have little confidence in these kinds of things anymore. When I start seeing indictments, maybe I'll start placing some credibility back into these investigations again. We keep seeing evidence laid out over and over, yet the elites seem to escape indictments. The American people are growing weary of these constant dog and pony shows, with no results. This nation needs to be made whole again, and frankly, I don't give a shit if they're republican or democrat, just that all the garbage gets taken to the truck and crushed.

Maybe, if the noose tightens enough, some people will flip and start talking, to save their own bacon. No perfect crime can be committed, if others know about it. When it comes to saving one's own hide, there is no honor among criminals. Hang 'em high!

[Boomchild]

How much teeth does this referral really have? Is this gonna be like Clinton being grilled for hours and hours,while lying her ass off, then let off the hook? I have little confidence in these kinds of things anymore. When I start seeing indictments, maybe I'll start placing some credibility back into these investigations again. We keep seeing evidence laid out over and over, yet the elites seem to escape indictments. The American people are growing weary of these constant dog and pony shows, with no results. This nation needs to be made whole again, and frankly, I don't give a shit if they're republican or democrat, just that all the garbage gets taken to the truck and crushed.

Maybe, if the noose tightens enough, some people will flip and start talking, to save their own bacon. No perfect crime can be committed, if others know about it. When it comes to saving one's own hide, there is no honor among criminals. Hang 'em high!

I think what is happening here is a slow build up. I think a lot more is happening behind the scenes. HRC and B.O. are central keys. If indictments don't come down on those two then you know this is all just a "dog and pony show".

[steveo777]

How much teeth does this referral really have? Is this gonna be like Clinton being grilled for hours and hours,while lying her ass off, then let off the hook? I have little confidence in these kinds of things anymore. When I start seeing indictments, maybe I'll start placing some credibility back into these investigations again. We keep seeing evidence laid out over and over, yet the elites seem to escape indictments. The American people are growing weary of these constant dog and pony shows, with no results. This nation needs to be made whole again, and frankly, I don't give a shit if they're republican or democrat, just that all the garbage gets taken to the truck and crushed.

Maybe, if the noose tightens enough, some people will flip and start talking, to save their own bacon. No perfect crime can be committed, if others know about it. When it comes to saving one's own hide, there is no honor among criminals. Hang 'em high!

I think what is happening here is a slow build up. I think a lot more is happening behind the scenes. HRC and B.O. are central keys. If indictments don't come down on those two then you know this is all just a "dog and pony show".

I want to feel the same way. I'm sure that everything has to be very meticulously done, so as to have an air tight case(s). Maybe this can't be rushed. A well prosecuted case can have no holes. They have to have them nailed, absolutely, without a doubt. I do think some heads are gonna roll, but not at the levels they should be. We are starting to see some daylight.

[ohsherrie]

Eating their own.

"A massive battle is brewing between former FBI Director James Comey, and his deputy Andy McCabe - as first noted a few weeks ago by the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross - over exactly who is lying about Comey knowing that McCabe had been leaking self-serving information to the Wall Street Journal.

Comey stopped by ABC's The View to peddle his new book, A Higher Royalty Loyalty, where he called his former Deputy Andrew McCabe a liar, and admitted that he "ordered the report" which found McCabe guilty of leaking to the press and then lying under oath about it, several times.

Comey was asked by host Megan McCain how he thought the public was supposed to have "confidence" in the FBI amid revelations that McCabe lied about the leak.

“It’s not okay. The McCabe case illustrates what an organization committed to the truth looks like,” Comey said. “I ordered that investigation.”

Comey then appeared to try and frame McCabe as a "good person" despite all the lying.

“Good people lie. I think I’m a good person, where I have lied,” Comey said. “I still believe Andrew McCabe is a good person but the inspector general found he lied,” noting that there are "severe consequences" within the DOJ for doing so."

And now two of the liars have faced those consequences. Wonder when McCabe's book will come out.

[ohsherrie]

Less talk, more action.

https://saraacarter.com/deadline-for-do ... -and-wray/

I hope he gets them.

[Boomchild]

I want to feel the same way. I'm sure that everything has to be very meticulously done, so as to have an air tight case(s). Maybe this can't be rushed. A well prosecuted case can have no holes. They have to have them nailed, absolutely, without a doubt. I do think some heads are gonna roll, but not at the levels they should be. We are starting to see some daylight.

I would agree, especially if your talking about charges that are in the area of sedition or treason. I would add if these are the kinds of things we are talking about here, you have to slowly present or "spoon feed" it to public. Otherwise they are not going to believe it without being shown the background details.

[verslibre]

The key word is "decline."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dhs-secretary-declines-to-explain-trumps-breeding-tweet/ar-AAw2lYz?ocid=spartanntp

[The_Noble_Cause]

Rod'ton was indeed a shoe-in till she screwed up. Drumpf didn't exactly win by a landslide.

Which screw-up are we talking about? There was never any appetite for her to win. She shouldn't have even run.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Why would users risk losing these websites by acting like gutter scum at best and criminals at worst once they are aware of the consequences.

When you try to make something illegal, (drugs, sex, movies, whatever) it just moves elsewhere.
It's not about average dating-site users suddenly turning into huggy bear pimps overnight.

I still don't see holding people accountable for illegal behavior as an infringement on freedom of speech.

Entire websites shutting down is not "holding people accountable."
With the exception of the Backpage CEOS, name some people being prosecuted. I'll wait...

I've never thought the idea of having a completely lawless virtual world was a good idea.

Section 230 of the Communications Act was the law of the land for three decades.
It shielded websites from liability.
Under it, the internet flourished.
There would be NO social media without it.

If these sites you mentioned would rather shut down than monitor their content so be it.

These sites do monitor their content. In the case of CraigsList, they have a staff of 30.
The site has boards for hundreds of cities with numerous sub-categories.
The idea that every single post will be inspected is completely impractical.

On the other hand, if users would rather shit in their playground and have it taken away than behave within the law they deserve to lose it.

Again, I don't know what this means.
If by "users" you mean sex workers, I am fine with them using web forums to screen out clients and protect their safety.

Actually my friend you're beginning to sound a little like Monker with his dire predictions for the results of everything the President does.

And you are starting to sound like a Dick Cheney Neocon.
I would be against an illegal strike on Syria no matter who is president.
I would be against internet censorship no matter who is president.

Did the sporting goods sites shut down when they could no longer direct ship guns?

Sporting good sites don't rely on user-generated content the way forums do. No comparison.

Places like the Craigslist personals and Backpage were the dark alleys of the slums. Most of the vermin that live there don't last long out in the light with people who don't live in their world.

You're talking about the oldest profession in the world. Banning speech doesn't make it go away. It just drives it from the light back into the streets- and potentially into a neighborhood near you.

[verslibre]

Rod'ton was indeed a shoe-in till she screwed up. Drumpf didn't exactly win by a landslide.

Which screw-up are we talking about? There was never any appetite for her to win. She shouldn't have even run.

While I agree she should not have bothered, she did ignore critical areas that cost her votes. Hence, votes went to candidates who had no shot in the dark.

[ohsherrie]

There are a lot of comedians out of work Jim, get off the stage.



James Comey has admitted that there is a deep state but claimed that it was actually a 'deep ballast' against corruption.
The fired FBI director said there is a group of people in law enforcement, intelligence and the military who work for what they see as the interests of America.

Comey described the group as 'unchangeable' and said no single president could change them because they are so embedded in the bureaucracy.

He said the group was not a 'deep state conspiring against the elected leadership of our government' because they were trying to do the right thing.

Comey made the admission on the first day of his nationwide book tour to promote his memoir, 'A Higher Loyalty', which sharply criticizes Donald Trump.

Does he not realize that what he described is unconstitutional?

[ohsherrie]

Why would users risk losing these websites by acting like gutter scum at best and criminals at worst once they are aware of the consequences.

When you try to make something illegal, (drugs, sex, movies, whatever) it just moves elsewhere.
It's not about average dating-site users suddenly turning into huggy bear pimps overnight.

I still don't see holding people accountable for illegal behavior as an infringement on freedom of speech.

Entire websites shutting down is not "holding people accountable."
With the exception of the Backpage CEOS, name some people being prosecuted. I'll wait...

I've never thought the idea of having a completely lawless virtual world was a good idea.

Section 230 of the Communications Act was the law of the land for three decades.
It shielded websites from liability.
Under it, the internet flourished.
There would be NO social media without it.

If these sites you mentioned would rather shut down than monitor their content so be it.

These sites do monitor their content. In the case of CraigsList, they have a staff of 30.
The site has boards for hundreds of cities with numerous sub-categories.
The idea that every single post will be inspected is completely impractical.

On the other hand, if users would rather shit in their playground and have it taken away than behave within the law they deserve to lose it.

Again, I don't know what this means.
If by "users" you mean sex workers, I am fine with them using web forums to screen out clients and protect their safety.

Actually my friend you're beginning to sound a little like Monker with his dire predictions for the results of everything the President does.

And you are starting to sound like a Dick Cheney Neocon.
I would be against an illegal strike on Syria no matter who is president.
I would be against internet censorship no matter who is president.

Did the sporting goods sites shut down when they could no longer direct ship guns?

Sporting good sites don't rely on user-generated content the way forums do. No comparison.

Places like the Craigslist personals and Backpage were the dark alleys of the slums. Most of the vermin that live there don't last long out in the light with people who don't live in their world.

You're talking about the oldest profession in the world. Banning speech doesn't make it go away. It just drives it from the light back into the streets- and potentially into a neighborhood near you.

I didn't mean to imply that you were against this just because Trump was president. I know this is how you really feel but I respectfully disagree. Like I said at the beginning of this debate "Ne'er the twain shall meet".

[The_Noble_Cause]

I didn't mean to imply that you were against this just because Trump was president. I know this is how you really feel but I respectfully disagree. Like I said at the beginning of this debate "Ne'er the twain shall meet".

When your favorite website(s) gets shut down, maybe you'll change your tune.

[Boomchild]

There are a lot of comedians out of work Jim, get off the stage.



James Comey has admitted that there is a deep state but claimed that it was actually a 'deep ballast' against corruption.
The fired FBI director said there is a group of people in law enforcement, intelligence and the military who work for what they see as the interests of America.

Comey described the group as 'unchangeable' and said no single president could change them because they are so embedded in the bureaucracy.

He said the group was not a 'deep state conspiring against the elected leadership of our government' because they were trying to do the right thing.


Comey made the admission on the first day of his nationwide book tour to promote his memoir, 'A Higher Loyalty', which sharply criticizes Donald Trump.

I believe what Comey is referring to here is the SES.

[Boomchild]

Rod'ton was indeed a shoe-in till she screwed up. Drumpf didn't exactly win by a landslide.

Which screw-up are we talking about? There was never any appetite for her to win. She shouldn't have even run.

While I agree she should not have bothered, she did ignore critical areas that cost her votes. Hence, votes went to candidates who had no shot in the dark.

A critical point is she had to collude with those in control of the DNC to win the primary.