The Donald J Trump Presidential Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm seriously stumped by this. How anyone with enough intelligence to log on and post to a message board can actually support Drumpf, who spent an hour long rant today, lying continually over and over.

America - the world is laughing at you.

I think many Trump supporters on here (me included) have intelligently addressed several political disagreements you have with his policies. To date, you have not responded to any of them. The level of discourse being offered by you and Monker is on par with Journey Troll. Not really worth responding to tbh.

[The_Noble_Cause]

America - the world is laughing at you.

Not the people who matter. The ones who are laughing are either clueless about what's really happening in this country or just clueless in general, like anybody basing their opinions on what they hear from the media.

Not sure how Andrew (or anyone) can have their finger on the pulse of the world. Does the world speak in one voice? Over in Lebanon, Hezbollah just swept the elections. Over in Venezuela, they are breeding rabbits to feed the starving masses. Antisemitism is on the rise across Europe. If the world had a consensus, why would I give a shit?

Anyone remember when the Daily Mirror ran this headline upon George W. Bush being re-elected?



That was perceived as the world opinion back in 2004.
Cut to 2018 - the fake Left in America have now rehabilitated this war criminal's reputation and absolutely adore him.
So who cares?

[verslibre]

One gets the feeling that ABC will get the worst of this before it's done. My bet is had she voted for Hillary this would all be a joke taken out of context.

You'll lose that bet. It wasn't the first time she's said something like that. She should have checked herself. This time, she actually had a show to lose, and that's exactly what happened. I liked Roseanne in its original iteration, and I was watching the new version. Easy come, easy go.

She also blamed Ambien (LOL) and unloaded on her castmates Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-trashes-former-cast-members-‘you-throw-me-under-the-bus’/ar-AAy1fEX?ocid=spartanntp[/url]

[The_Noble_Cause]

She also blamed Ambien (LOL) and unloaded on her castmates Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-trashes-former-cast-members-‘you-throw-me-under-the-bus’/ar-AAy1fEX?ocid=spartanntp[/url]

If you read her Twitter, she is telling fans not to defend her. I appreciate Roseanne for owning up to her own impulsive madness. When homophobic posts by MSNBC hack, Joy Reid, were recently uncovered, she blamed time traveling hackers. That's the easy route.

[verslibre]

She also blamed Ambien (LOL) and unloaded on her castmates Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/roseanne-trashes-former-cast-members-‘you-throw-me-under-the-bus’/ar-AAy1fEX?ocid=spartanntp[/url]

If you read her Twitter, she is telling fans not to defend her. I appreciate Roseanne for owning up to her own impulsive madness. When homophobic posts by MSNBC hack, Joy Reid, were recently uncovered, she blamed time traveling hackers. That's the easy route.

You mean J0hn T1t0r wasn't behind it?

[verslibre]

As you can see, it's not an isolated incident that can be blamed on a prescription med. Note the date.

[The_Noble_Cause]

As you can see, it's not an isolated incident that can be blamed on a prescription med. Note the date.

Forgive me if I don't care.

[verslibre]

Forgive me if I don't care.

You don't have to. You only need understand why she got her show shitcanned.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Forgive me if I don't care.

You don't have to. You only need understand why she got her show shitcanned.

Never been a fan. Should have explained this to ABC/Disney when they were considering bringing her back to start with.

[Monker]

Still playing word games and avoiding the point that the Obama deep state was gathering information covertly from within the Trump campaign. That is spying.

No, that is a LIE. Nobody "within" the Trump campaign was covertly spying on anybody...and there is absolutely no evidence that Obama "signed off" on anything.

Stefan Halper may not have been riding on the campaign bus but he was in contact with two people who had connections to the campaign and who also connections to Russia. They used the Russian connections as an excuse to get information from inside the Trump campaign. That's the way intelligence gathering, aka spying, works.

There is a huge difference between saying there was an "embedded" spy, or a spy "within" the Trump campaign and some guy contacting the campaign asking questions.

And, you should EXPECT this to happen when Trump surrounds himself with these type of characters, Manafort, Papadopolous, even Cohen. He surrounded himself with the shadiest characters possible. You may believe he is "draining the swamp". But, he brought in the creatures from the black lagoon to replace them.

What makes you so sure Trump only knows as much as Schiff? Just because the paperwork wasn't sent to the meeting doesn't mean the President doesn't have the information. He needs the Congress to have it and the proper investigative steps to be followed.

Because the DOJ had not shared these documents with anybody. It's against their policy. Trump didn't even know what existed...he just issued a generic demand for an investigation based on media reports...not actual evidence. NOBODY knows the actual evidence besides the DOJ/FBI...and nobody else SHOULD know until the Russia investigation is complete.

There is no way that you could have become delusional enough over the last 15 years to believe, as Clapper says, they were protecting the Trump campaign from the Russians.

I saw the entire Clapper interview on CNN. The alt-right media took his comments out of context, added their own meaning, and you picked it up and run with it. I believe what Trey Gowdy said, which is what Clapper was also trying to say, that the FBI was doing their job. It is what Americans should WANT them to do...and it had nothing to do with Donald Trump.

[Monker]

Amazing that he keeps getting winning results without doing things the way the losers think he should.

There is no "results" with China. We are just back to where it all started, and Trump being concerned with importing cell phones from China with espionage abilities, so he can improve THEIR economy with more jobs. Like he says, "China first!" "Make China Great Again!"

[Monker]

And these are the same liberals who tell us we evolved from apes. Weird that they are offended.

That has not been the theory for literaly decades. Even though you are joking, it certainly shows your ignorance.

[ohsherrie]

Moniker, if you want a reply to your dissection of my post go back and read my post again. My opinion hasn't changed.

[Monker]

But it's ok for Bill Mahar to compare the President to an ape.

Which was in response to Trump demanding Obama's birth certificate. Maher demanded Trump produce his "real" birth certificate because he believed at least one of his parents was an arangotan. Trump sued him over it, and lost. Hillarious.

It was not long ago when Maher made a joke about a "house nigger", got called out on it, and spent the first part of his next show being lectured about his mistake. Also, don't forget that his ABC show "Policaly Incorrect" was canceled due to how he spoke out on the Iraq war. He also generally has the outspoken opinion about comedians being crucified for jokes they probably should not have said. if I had to guess, he'll probably come out in support of Roseanne in his next show.

[Monker]

Did you notice during your absence not one person asked or cared where you were? Not one!

Nope. My popularity is not something I care much about. Thank you for your concern tho!

[The_Noble_Cause]

No, that is a LIE. Nobody "within" the Trump campaign was covertly spying on anybody...and there is absolutely no evidence that Obama "signed off" on anything.

Because Halper's overtures to officially join the cabinet failed.
Your argument was initially that there was no FBI spying at all.
Now you are making it seem like FBI spying is as routine on the campaign trail as kissing babies and handing out yard signs.

There is a huge difference between saying there was an "embedded" spy, or a spy "within" the Trump campaign and some guy contacting the campaign asking questions.

"Some guy" with FBI, MI6, and CIA connections.

"Some guy" who was integrally involved in a CIA spying operation in the 1980s.

Sure sounds like a regular Joe Schmo, Johnny Lunchpail type to me.

And, you should EXPECT this to happen when Trump surrounds himself with these type of characters, Manafort, Papadopolous, even Cohen. He surrounded himself with the shadiest characters possible. You may believe he is "draining the swamp". But, he brought in the creatures from the black lagoon to replace them.

If spying on political opponent is pro-forma, why have you been on here saying that Trump's surveillance claims are pure fiction?

Because the DOJ had not shared these documents with anybody. It's against their policy. Trump didn't even know what existed...he just issued a generic demand for an investigation based on media reports...not actual evidence. NOBODY knows the actual evidence besides the DOJ/FBI...and nobody else SHOULD know until the Russia investigation is complete.

The President can declassify at will. You have no idea what Trump knows or doesn't know. If he has Putin on speed-dial (as you believe), how can you be so sure Russian intel didn't tip him off to what they know?

I saw the entire Clapper interview on CNN. The alt-right media took his comments out of context, added their own meaning, and you picked it up and run with it. I believe what Trey Gowdy said, which is what Clapper was also trying to say, that the FBI was doing their job. It is what Americans should WANT them to do...and it had nothing to do with Donald Trump.

If that's the case, then post the quote. Stop hiding behind made-up boogeymen like the "alt-right" - which you can't define and holds no political power.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Did you notice during your absence not one person asked or cared where you were? Not one!

Nope. My popularity is not something I care much about. Thank you for your concern tho!

It's pretty obvious that this forum is all you have in life.
Otherwise, you wouldn't keep threatening to quit the forum like a drama queen starved for attention.
When I quit, I just logged off.
This place is like oxygen for you.

[verslibre]

Forgive me if I don't care.

You don't have to. You only need understand why she got her show shitcanned.

Just goes to show you, you can be a Marxist Socialist like Roseanne, but you still have to be 100% in lock step or you get fucked hard core. Oh well, the LGBT just lost a big spokes person. Again, had she voted for Hillary, this would have been explained away as a joke. But again, I do understand and have made the point twice now why she got shit canned. She voted for Trump, not Hillary, even though she plays for the liberal team. Same reason why TNC catches shit on here now. You have to goose step 100%.

Her vote for Trump has nothing to do with it, ding dong. Adjust your helmet.

[verslibre]

And these are the same liberals who tell us we evolved from apes. Weird that they are offended.

That has not been the theory for literaly decades. Even though you are joking, it certainly shows your ignorance.

Damn, neither you, verslibre nor Andrew can have a laugh. Lighten up FFS.

Looks like somebody didn't like that Exorcist-Whyte Haus mash-up on the previous page. (Hint: the oldest guy on the forum.)

[verslibre]

Seriously, how is that not hilarious?

[verslibre]

The resemblance is uncanny.

[tj]

As you can see, it's not an isolated incident that can be blamed on a prescription med. Note the date.

https://townhall.com/columnists/secupp/ ... r-n2485726

"ABC falsely believed they hired Roseanne the Character -- a blue collar, everywoman who was sharp-tongued but fun-loving and, yes, a Trump supporter.

But what they got was Roseanne the Person, who is, to put it politely, a nutjob.

Upon her firing, ABC released this condemnation: "Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show."

But what's their excuse for hiring her again? Remember, this is a woman who was an early supporter of birtherism, has compared Muslims to Nazis, took to Twitter regularly to attack citizens both private and public, floated wild conspiracy theories and bullied Trump opponents with racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic insults.

She infamously dressed up as Hitler for a photoshoot and posed with burnt "Jew cookies," and has promoted anti-Semitic personalities like the Holocaust-denier Gilad Atzmon.

As risks go, she came with a ton of it. How did ABC think this would go? Suddenly becoming a network star again would put the crazy back in the bottle? Sorry -- that's not how it works."

[Monker]

MFlynnJr
@mflynnJR
·
32m
The MSM said @realDonaldTrump had no shot becoming @POTUS

They were wrong...

And now they’re saying #SpyGate is a conspiracy.

Want to guess what happens next?

It's not a "conspiracy". It's a LIE. There was no FBI spy "embedded" in Trump's campaign. THAT WAS A LIE. It is a LIE to say that Obama "signed off" on it. It is a LIE to continue on by saying the FBI was "infiltrating" his campaign. Donald Judas Trump is a pathological liar.

[Monker]

As you can see, it's not an isolated incident that can be blamed on a prescription med. Note the date.

https://townhall.com/columnists/secupp/ ... r-n2485726

"ABC falsely believed they hired Roseanne the Character -- a blue collar, everywoman who was sharp-tongued but fun-loving and, yes, a Trump supporter.

But what they got was Roseanne the Person, who is, to put it politely, a nutjob.

Upon her firing, ABC released this condemnation: "Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show."

But what's their excuse for hiring her again? Remember, this is a woman who was an early supporter of birtherism, has compared Muslims to Nazis, took to Twitter regularly to attack citizens both private and public, floated wild conspiracy theories and bullied Trump opponents with racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic insults.

She infamously dressed up as Hitler for a photoshoot and posed with burnt "Jew cookies," and has promoted anti-Semitic personalities like the Holocaust-denier Gilad Atzmon.

As risks go, she came with a ton of it. How did ABC think this would go? Suddenly becoming a network star again would put the crazy back in the bottle? Sorry -- that's not how it works."

Come on people. She was working for DISNEY. You know Mickey Mouse. They are not going to tolerate this shit. She was lucky to even get a show with ABC.

And, The Mouse just had a HUGE hit with the Black Panther movie...which I am absolutely certain proved to them that the black audience can be a very profitable one. There is no way they are going to take a chance on offending them after seeing the amount of money they can make.

Then there is the fact that both Wanda Sykes (writer) and Sara Gilbert essentially quit the show after Roseanne's stupidity.

And, on top of all of that, the head of programming at ABC is a black lady.

Roseanne being canceled had nothing to do with who she voted for. It had to do with offending The Mouse, potentially threatening the loss of a HUGE audience they had just gained, and the ultimate decision of the director of programming.

It also has nothing to do with censorship...Roseanne is free to say and do whatever she wants on Twitter...just not as an employee of ABC.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's not a "conspiracy". It's a LIE. There was no FBI spy "embedded" in Trump's campaign. THAT WAS A LIE. It is a LIE to say that Obama "signed off" on it. It is a LIE to continue on by saying the FBI was "infiltrating" his campaign. Donald Judas Trump is a pathological liar.

So I ask again, at whose behest did Halper initiate contact with the Trump team? And if he is just some regular guy, why did the press refuse to out him? Why did some, including Paul Krugman and Comey's BFF Benjamin Wittes, consider his eventual outing traitorous? Why does he have more connections to intelligence agencies than James Bond and Ethan Hunt put together?

Since you seem uncertain about what constitutes a lie and what doesn't, here is a clear example of one -

Monker: "Hillary had permission to use a private server."

[verslibre]

It also has nothing to do with censorship...Roseanne is free to say and do whatever she wants on Twitter...just not as an employee of ABC.

That's what it boils down to.

That's without mention of the head of ABC, the aforementioned parent company, and its phenom hit Black Panther, and everything else you mentioned in your post.

If she'd exercised some restraint, the show wouldn't have been cancelled.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It also has nothing to do with censorship...Roseanne is free to say and do whatever she wants on Twitter...just not as an employee of ABC.

That's what it boils down to.

That's without mention of the head of ABC, the aforementioned parent company, and its phenom hit Black Panther, and everything else you mentioned in your post.

If she'd exercised some restraint, the show woouldn't have been cancelled.

It's a stupid comment regardless of political ideology. Whether her choice for pres would have made any impact on her show's current fate, nobody can say for sure. I give her a lot of credit for not blaming Russian hackers.

[Andrew]

I'm seriously stumped by this. How anyone with enough intelligence to log on and post to a message board can actually support Drumpf, who spent an hour long rant today, lying continually over and over.

America - the world is laughing at you.

Simply put, we don’t care anymore. The world will be here on bended knee when they need us, and they will. We’ll probably save your asses again, and again. You’re welcome in advance.

The rest of the world will move on without America. And are already doing so. It's you guys that will find yourselves isolated...

[Andrew]

It's not a "conspiracy". It's a LIE. There was no FBI spy "embedded" in Trump's campaign. THAT WAS A LIE. It is a LIE to say that Obama "signed off" on it. It is a LIE to continue on by saying the FBI was "infiltrating" his campaign. Donald Judas Trump is a pathological liar.

100% he lies every time he opens his mouth. The rest of the world is in shock that anyone takes this clown seriously.

https://twitter.com/skyrocketkday/statu ... 9945502720

[Andrew]

CORRUPTION:

China awarded Ivanka Trump's company seven new trademarks just days before her father vowed to find a way to save the Chinese telecom giant ZTE, even though the company violated U.S. sanctions against countries like Iran and North Korea. The trademarks span a wide range of businesses, including books, housewares, and cushions. Ivanka Trump already held more than a dozen trademarks in China, as well as multiple pending trademark applications. Her father holds more than 100 trademarks in China. (New York Times / The Guardian)

LIES:

Trump claimed that Robert Mueller's team will meddle in the 2018 midterm elections in favor of Democrats. "The 13 Angry Democrats (plus people who worked 8 years for Obama) working on the rigged Russia Witch Hunt," Trump tweeted, "will be MEDDLING with the mid-term elections, especially now that Republicans (stay tough!) are taking the lead in Polls. There was no Collusion, except by the Democrats!" (CNN / Washington Post)

MORE LIES:

Giuliani admitted that Trump's "Spygate" conspiracy theory is part of a public relations campaign aimed at discrediting the Mueller investigation in the eyes of the public. Dana Bash pressed Giuliani to acknowledge that he and Trump were using a "very specific, very political strategy to undermine [the Mueller] investigation" and using political tactics to shape public opinion. "It is for public opinion," Giuliani admitted, "because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach or not impeach." He continued: "Members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. And so our jury is — as it should be — is the American people." (New York Magazine / The Guardian / CNN)

REPUGNANT:

Trump said migrant children entering the country at the southern border are "not innocent," and warned that letting them in exposes the nation to increased gang crime. "They look so innocent," Trump said at a roundtable meeting at the Morrelly Homeland Security Center. He added: "They're not innocent." (Washington Post)

LOOPY:

Trump said athletes who refuse to stand for the national anthem shouldn't be allowed to play and suggested that maybe they "shouldn't be in the country." Trump said he doesn't like the provision in the NFL's new policy that allows players to remain in the locker room while the anthem is played. "I don't think people should be staying in locker rooms," Trump said, "but still I think it's good. You have to stand, proudly, for the national anthem or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there, maybe you shouldn't be in the country." (Washington Post / NPR / Fox News)

CORRUPTION:

Cohen received a secret payment of at least $400,000 to arrange talks between Trump and the president of Ukraine. The payment was arranged by intermediaries acting on behalf of Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko. The meetings occurred at the White House last June. Cohen has denied the allegation. There is no indication that Trump was aware of the payment. (BBC)

LIES:

Trump said he constantly bashes the press in order to "demean" and "discredit" journalists so the public won't believe "negative stories" about him. Lesley Stahl says she asked Trump, "Why are you doing it over and over?" She continued: "And he said: 'You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.'" (Yahoo! Finance)