steveo777 wrote:slucero wrote:Monker wrote:
I didn't push that as a reason I believe Drumpf won. I have said from the beginning that Drumpf won because Democrats didn't vote..
Democrats didn't vote? That's some conspiracy theory you've got there...
2016 Presidential Election
Total votes
Hillary R. Clinton Democratic 65,845,063
Donald J. Drumpf Republican 62,980,160
Hillary got more votes than Drumpf...
And if it weren't for the liberal ideological states, like California and NY, he'd have won the popular vote too. The electoral college did what it was intended to do, thank God!
No, the electoral college was intended to keep unqualified people out of the Presidency....because the founders did not trust the people to be informed enough to make the decision themselves. To avoid this, some wanted congress to elect the President. As a compromise the electoral college was invented to be a sort of intermediary between a direct vote of the people and a vote by the elected representatives of the people. In addition, the electoral college was independent of government and less apt to be influenced by government corruption, and corruption in general. But, the basis of all of this is they simply did not trust that a person in, say New York, could be informed enough about a person running for the Presidency who was from Arizona...so they task that "informed decision" to be made by people in each state specifically chosen to make the decision.
Donald Jackass Trump is unqualified by every measure, is knee deep in scandal and controversy and everything the founders were trying to avoid attaching to the election of a President.
The election of Donald Judas Trump PROVES that the electoral college does not work as the founders intended and needs to be scrapped. It is outdated irrelevant bullshit which fucks up elections rather than making them more reliable.
As Alexander Hamilton explains:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.aspIt was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.