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Good article stating the obvious.


"To believe – or pretend to believe – that it is Mr. Trump who pioneered the view that the U.S. is willing and eager to sanction murder and savagery by the regimes with which it is most closely aligned as long as such barbarism serves U.S interests signifies a historical ignorance and/or a willingness to lie to one’s own readers so profound that no human language is capable of expressing the depths of those delusions. Has the New York Times Editorial Page ever heard of Henry Kissinger?"

"If you want to denounce Trump’s indifference to Saudi atrocities on moral, ethical or geo-political grounds – and I find them objectionable on all of those grounds – by all means do so. But pretending that he’s done something that is at odds with U.S. values or the actions of prior leaders or prevailing foreign policy orthodoxies is not just deceitful but destructive."

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/21/tru ... thodoxies/

An interesting observation....

That a majority of you continue to support this malevolent, traitorous, lecherous mole of a half-wit is hardly surprising.

What I'm curious about is, if and when the GOP rediscovers its roots - fiscally conservative and social moderate platforms - how many of you will throw the Cheeto Ceaușescu under the bus?

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sorry the country is running so well and you are let down. Just wait. Voters are stupid enough to elect another Obama type globalist and start destroying the United States again. Then you can be happy again. It must be frustrating to you that you came so close and now almost all of it is reversed. Just be cool. Voters proved their stupidity with the House. They will do it again. Just like France is going through now. I should add Germany.

Are you serious? WTF are you smoking?

The federal debt increased by nearly $1.4 trillion - that's more than 9 percent. We're now the laughingstock of the world. Oh, and there have been over 100 federal indictments of members of the Trump Administration.

So much winning!

Seven Wishes wrote:

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sorry the country is running so well and you are let down. Just wait. Voters are stupid enough to elect another Obama type globalist and start destroying the United States again. Then you can be happy again. It must be frustrating to you that you came so close and now almost all of it is reversed. Just be cool. Voters proved their stupidity with the House. They will do it again. Just like France is going through now. I should add Germany.

Are you serious? WTF are you smoking?

The federal debt increased by nearly $1.4 trillion - that's more than 9 percent. We're now the laughingstock of the world. Oh, and there have been over 100 federal indictments of members of the Drumpf Administration.

So much winning!

Amen. Drumpf is going to cook the economy until it busts. He's just such a fucking bullshit artist. The record DOW is now never mentioned as its heading in the other direction, the caravan has vanished, but what about her emails...oops! LOL

Seven Wishes wrote:

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sorry the country is running so well and you are let down. Just wait. Voters are stupid enough to elect another Obama type globalist and start destroying the United States again. Then you can be happy again. It must be frustrating to you that you came so close and now almost all of it is reversed. Just be cool. Voters proved their stupidity with the House. They will do it again. Just like France is going through now. I should add Germany.

Are you serious? WTF are you smoking?

The federal debt increased by nearly $1.4 trillion - that's more than 9 percent. We're now the laughingstock of the world. Oh, and there have been over 100 federal indictments of members of the Drumpf Administration.

So much winning!

I'm gonna just leave this right here....

Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74 percent increase was the fifth-largest. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package. It added $831 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding public works projects.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-p ... nt-3306296

Seven Wishes wrote:That a majority of you continue to support this malevolent, traitorous, lecherous mole of a half-wit is hardly surprising.

What I'm curious about is, if and when the GOP rediscovers its roots - fiscally conservative and social moderate platforms - how many of you will throw the Cheeto Ceaușescu under the bus?

The GOP roots you just mentioned - "fiscally conservative" and "social moderate platforms" - exist only in your imagination. More importantly, parties don't necessarily re-embrace their past, they evolve. In the the case of DJT, he has evolved his party for the better. Neocons, like the Bushes, are a thing of the past. NAFTA and the trade deficit, which should be Democratic issues, are back in play.

Andrew wrote:The record DOW is now never mentioned as its heading in the other direction, 

Earlier in this thread, you thanked Obama for the state of the economy. Make up your mind.

Andrew wrote:the caravan has vanished,

A quick search on Google news proves this to be a complete lie. You guys are so consumed by hatred that you say anything.

Ummm....

FY 2021 - $916 billion.
FY 2020 - $987 billion.
FY 2019 - $984 billion.
FY 2018 - $833 billion.

FY 2016 - $585 billion.
FY 2015 - $438 billion.
FY 2014 - $485 billion.
FY 2013 - $679 billion

Boomchild wrote:

Seven Wishes wrote:

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Sorry the country is running so well and you are let down. Just wait. Voters are stupid enough to elect another Obama type globalist and start destroying the United States again. Then you can be happy again. It must be frustrating to you that you came so close and now almost all of it is reversed. Just be cool. Voters proved their stupidity with the House. They will do it again. Just like France is going through now. I should add Germany.

Are you serious? WTF are you smoking?

The federal debt increased by nearly $1.4 trillion - that's more than 9 percent. We're now the laughingstock of the world. Oh, and there have been over 100 federal indictments of members of the Drumpf Administration.

So much winning!

I'm gonna just leave this right here....

Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74 percent increase was the fifth-largest. Obama's budgets included the economic stimulus package. It added $831 billion by cutting taxes, extending unemployment benefits, and funding public works projects.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-p ... nt-3306296

You forgot we were talking about Trump....from YOUR LINK ABOVE:

Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29-percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

Fact Finder wrote:Caravan Plans to Rush the Border Today

Fox News has confirmed through an organizer for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, the group helping organize the leading Central American migrant caravan, that members of the caravan are expected to march peacefully to the point of entry at San Ysidro, Calif., on Sunday at 12 p.m. ET.

The marchers are expected to head out from the stadium, where many have been staying, and attempt to cross the border in a major test for both U.S. border authorities and Mexican officials.

This shouldn't be any type of "test" at all. They are going to a legal port of entry. It now seems Trumpians are arguing against asylum seekers even going to a legal port of entry. Crazy.

Seven Wishes wrote:Ummm....

FY 2021 - $916 billion.
FY 2020 - $987 billion.
FY 2019 - $984 billion.
FY 2018 - $833 billion.

FY 2016 - $585 billion.
FY 2015 - $438 billion.
FY 2014 - $485 billion.
FY 2013 - $679 billion

Obama is POTUS: January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017
T r u m p is POTUS: January 20, 2017 - current

Check the 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit increase from 2008-2010
Check how he netted out a 200 BILLION dollar deficit increase for his 8 year term.


Obama gets the prize...

slucero wrote:

Seven Wishes wrote:Ummm....

FY 2021 - $916 billion.
FY 2020 - $987 billion.
FY 2019 - $984 billion.
FY 2018 - $833 billion.

FY 2016 - $585 billion.
FY 2015 - $438 billion.
FY 2014 - $485 billion.
FY 2013 - $679 billion

Obama is POTUS: January 20, 2009 – January 20, 2017
T r u m p is POTUS: January 20, 2017 - current

Correct. Therefore, Obama is NOT responsible for the 2009 budget, and Trump is NOT responsible for the 2017 budget...because the budget is "decided" later in the prior year. You don't decide a yearly budget after the year has already started.

Check the 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit increase from 2008-2010

Half of that is a W budget.

The comparison is irrelevant anyway. The current liar in chief said the corporate tax cut would not increase the deficit. It did, by a HUGE amount.

When you post graphics, make sure they fit on the page.:

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Monker wrote:

Fact Finder wrote:Caravan Plans to Rush the Border Today

Fox News has confirmed through an organizer for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, the group helping organize the leading Central American migrant caravan, that members of the caravan are expected to march peacefully to the point of entry at San Ysidro, Calif., on Sunday at 12 p.m. ET.

The marchers are expected to head out from the stadium, where many have been staying, and attempt to cross the border in a major test for both U.S. border authorities and Mexican officials.

This shouldn't be any type of "test" at all. They are going to a legal port of entry. It now seems Trumpians are arguing against asylum seekers even going to a legal port of entry. Crazy.

It seems they stormed the border throwing rocks and such. So, they had the proper response.

If they simply line up to seek asylum, they should be processed - it's the law - despite what executive orders are signed.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Something else for liberals to hate and find fault with.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/no ... d=59314370

What's not to like about this?

Well done South Korea.

Quote:

“While Americans celebrated Thanksgiving, their president sent 26 tweets that:

Attacked the Media
Lied about Democrats
Endorsed a Racist
Nicknamed Himself
Provoked Mexico
Vilified Immigrants
Undermined Judges
Denied Climate Change

...and claimed he was most thankful for himself!”

Yep. What a fuckwit.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:THE CLINTONSPublished 2 hours ago
Plunge in Clinton Foundation donations fuels GOP scrutiny amid DOJ probe

Newly released tax documents showing a plunge in Clinton Foundation donations after Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential election defeat have fueled long-standing Republican allegations of possible “pay-to-play” transactions at the organization, amid a Justice Department probe covering foundation issues.

The foundation has never had an outside independent audit nor from what I have seen an audit conducted by the IRS. Since it's inception, the foundation was granted tax exempt status ONLY for raising funds to build the Clinton library and to preserve documents while Bill Clinton was president. This means that they NEVER received tax exempt status from the IRS for all the other "charitable" operations. They also have violated state laws for non profit organizations where the foundation operates. So you can take the concerns of the Republicans with a grain of salt. It's all an act. If this was anyone else running this scam, the IRS would have conducted a major audit. They would have required them to return all donations that were not for the approved non profit purpose or gone after the donors of said donations to collect the tax on the donations. It's crystal clear that nothing is going to happen here because the Clintons are part of the select group that are allowed to operate above the law.

http://charlesortel.com/

Except Trump's executive order was already challenged in court a week a go and declared unconstitutional. Until there is further court decisions, immigrants can apply for asylum as the southern border.

Fact Finder wrote:As a general rule yes, however, and you always forget this, it’s no guarantee of anything if,

8 U.S.C. 1182

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:MSM caught lying again,and some truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcQdmGXI1k4

The entire thing is based on a lie. There is no Democrat party position for "open borders". So, his entire piece is just made up bullshit, as usual.

So, really, the person who is lying here is Tucker Carlson.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:MSM caught lying again,and some truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcQdmGXI1k4

What a shock. A RWNJ link. Dude, if you ever want to get any credibility whatsoever, knock off the Drumpf Koolaid from Faux and those RWNJ websites you frequent.

Monker wrote:

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:MSM caught lying again,and some truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcQdmGXI1k4

The entire thing is based on a lie. There is no Democrat party position for "open borders". So, his entire piece is just made up bullshit, as usual.

Of course it is....who in their right mind would advocate for open boarders. The RWNJs believe every bit of cheese thrown at them.

Andrew wrote:What a shock. A RWNJ link. Dude, if you ever want to get any credibility whatsoever, knock off the Drumpf Koolaid from Faux and those RWNJ websites you frequent.

These days Tucker is to the LEFT of the majority of the programming on MSNBC, CNN, etc.
Recent segments have been on ending Middle East wars and how taxpayers are subsiding big business like Amazon, Walmart - y'know, stuff that liberal shows used to cover before they were taken over by Russian fear mongering. When it comes to the US media landscape, where is your credibility?

Andrew wrote:

Monker wrote:
The entire thing is based on a lie. There is no Democrat party position for "open borders". So, his entire piece is just made up bullshit, as usual.

Of course it is....who in their right mind would advocate for open boarders. The RWNJs believe every bit of cheese thrown at them.

I think Tucker was pretty specific - "get rid of ICE, accept most refugees, give citizenship to tens of millions of people here illegally."
In the recent midterms, many Dem candidates ran on precisely that. You may not agree with the phrase "open borders", but there is no denying that the Democratic Party has significantly softened their stance on all-things-immigration. Harry Reid even came out of retirement to denounce his previously held views.

Also, isn't it funny how the media (and you both) wrote off the caravan as a figment of the fevered right-wing imagination and now it is actually here and rushing the border?
Should make everyone here wonder...just what else are you two both wrong about?

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Andrew wrote:He's clearly frustrated with the dickhead presidump making up false and utterly incorrect statements about this caravan of terror, coming to get you all!!

Monker wrote:Must have been the same imaginary people hidden in the middle of the (now forgotten, and never mentioned) caravan.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:It's about time some of these propaganda rags that call themselves News Reporters get hauled into court.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... ing-story/

Again with the RWNJ blog...

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Andrew wrote:What a shock. A RWNJ link. Dude, if you ever want to get any credibility whatsoever, knock off the Drumpf Koolaid from Faux and those RWNJ websites you frequent.

These days Tucker is to the LEFT of the majority of the programming on MSNBC, CNN, etc.
Recent segments have been on ending Middle East wars and how taxpayers are subsiding big business like Amazon, Walmart - y'know, stuff that liberal shows used to cover before they were taken over by Russian fear mongering. When it comes to the US media landscape, where is your credibility?

That dopey looking fucker is to the left as I am to the right.

What is it with the conservatives that don’t like immigrants, LGBTI, marriage equality, equality for all? What scares you all about a affair go for all?

Andrew wrote:That dopey looking fucker is to the left as I am to the right.

You are openly on here pushing Cold War 2.0 bullshit daily, taking the military industrial complex propaganda as gospel, and trying to suppress views you don't agree with. Does that sound leftist to you?

As for Tucker, he has come a long way from CNN's Crossfire. I'm proud of him. He is wise to lean populist and cover issues that matter to average voters/workers.

What is it with the conservatives that don’t like immigrants,

You're changing the subject. He was very specific in that monologue.

Tucker stated that Democrats wanted to "get rid of ICE, accept most refugees, give citizenship to tens of millions of people here illegally." He wasn't railing against ALL immigrants.

Can you address those specific points or are you going to continue to throw shit at the wall?

...LGBTI, marriage equality, equality for all? What scares you all about a affair go for all?

No idea what you are even talking about. Now, somehow, everybody here is a homophobe?

More like xenophobe.

https://twitter.com/jiveDurkey/status/1067193821786767365

"Stop using military analogies," indeed.

verslibre wrote:More like xenophobe.

https://twitter.com/jiveDurkey/status/1067193821786767365

"Stop using military analogies," indeed.

I don't think you know what a xenophobe is. And Geraldo's comment, while impassioned, is devoid of facts. Fluffy empty appeals of emotion are just that.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:It's about time some of these propaganda rags that call themselves News Reporters get hauled into court.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... ing-story/

Oh irony. Did you happen to notice that T r u m p's Justice Department is running full steam ahead to get Assange into court. Perhaps one should ask why would this be occurring when T r u m p clearly was using Wikileaks as an example of providing truth and evidence of wrong doings by HRC and those associated with her?