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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:All you are doing is trying to make things to be about me.
I'm just responding to posts addressed to me. You really think you're more important than you are.
Monker wrote: You are not the forum owner. You do not dictate how anything here is applied. This is not a democracy. It is a fucking forum of peon nobody's. Save the grandiose declarations for somebody who believes you hold some type of power here. You have none...you are no more of a peon than I am. Andrew can run the forum however he wants. If you don't like it, you can leave. There is no need to be a martyr.
Previously, you mentioned that this thread should be shut down. That's the equivalent of a peon wanting to set fire to his own village. Who's the wannabe dictator again? You think you are the viceroy announcing decrees in the town square.
Monker wrote:Andrew never "recruited" me for anything. You are now just making stuff up.
There is no partnership.
Andrew and I are not some type of leaders of a team on this forum (ie: Wormtongue and Theodon, or Wormtongue and Saruman, depending on what argument you are in at any given moment).
There is no coordination of any type between us.
I haven't talked to Andrew outside of this forum in more than a year.
I have serious doubts that any type of recruiting IM's were ever sent to anybody.
Yea, sure. And Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton had a harmless discussion on the tarmac about their grandkids.
You said you are still posting here because you had a discussion with Andrew. Everybody knows exactly what that means.
Monker wrote:You reject reality and substitute your own.
Nah, I just speak the truth and then you have another mental breakdown.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:It is always about somebody else, you being unwilling to take responsibility for your own actions.
You are the one pretending to be some sort of moral authority on posting decorum. I have no issue with people using insults AT ALL. Apparently you do. Posters in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that. To paraphrase another proverb - poster, heal thyself.
Monker wrote:This report isn't worth getting into with you....all you are going to do is post crap like the above. It's not "discussion" or "debate", it's unworthy of my time.
But but but you promised that "you won't hear much until the committees start being shown the FBI evidence and witnesses are question."
Well, the Senate Intel Committee has spoken - and they say your full of shit. No wonder you want this thread closed.
Monker wrote:You are inventing conspiracy theories about Andrew and I. You invented some weird scenario of Andrew sending out "recruiting" IM"s. Now you are mumbling about mental breakdowns. You seem to have this entire alternate reality invented in your head. All I have been saying, over and over again is that if you don't like how Andrew admins the forum nor how people like me post to it, nobody is stopping you from leaving.
Andrew wrote:?
I've got no idea WTF he's on about. And don't care either.
Monker wrote:You do nothing but try to bait people into conversations to avoid talking about whatever topic you don't want to talk about for whatever reason.
Monker wrote: It has nothing to do with the importance of other people, but your inability to admit any wrong doing or faults about yourself.
Monker wrote: You are a mini-Trump.
Monker wrote:
That is my opinion, I would burn it ALL down if I were Andrew because I would not see ANY of these forums being worth my time and investment of $'s. But, it is not my 'village' to burn down, it is Andrew's. I have not stated or implied anything else.
Monker wrote:I said, "you do not dictate how anything here is applied." You don't. Who Andrew bans, how he posts, how he renames topics, how he swaps certain words in posts, NONE of that is in your control...yet you demand it should be a certain way. That is ABSOLUTELY what you have been doing. If you don't like things here, there is nothing stopping you from leaving.
Monker wrote:You are just making shit up and inventing conspiracy theories.
Monker wrote:You are inventing conspiracy theories about Andrew and I. You invented some weird scenario of Andrew sending out "recruiting" IM"s. Now you are mumbling about mental breakdowns. You seem to have this entire alternate reality invented in your head. All I have been saying, over and over again is that if you don't like how Andrew admins the forum nor how people like me post to it, nobody is stopping you from leaving.
Monker wrote:That has NOTHING to do with what I said. Essentially, trading posts with you turns into a game of who can go the lowest. That is all you do, over and over again.
Monker wrote: Everybody knows this by now.
Monker wrote:
Like I said, this was just an attempt to bait people into a battle of swipes and insults. It's so predictable that it's a bit pathetic.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:?
I've got no idea WTF he's on about. And don't care either.
Should I post the private message where you said "spend more time attacking those right-wing nut jobs"?
And is it far-fetched to reason that you told Monker to do the same? PMs are meant to be private. But at this point, who really cares?
Andrew wrote:You've done so. Must have said that when you weren't one of them.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:A few years ago, this is the type of article you would read on Mother Jones or The Nation. Instead, we now have populist conservatives mounting a defense against establishment warmongers. Everything is upside down. But, as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... l-kristol/
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:That has NOTHING to do with what I said. Essentially, trading posts with you turns into a game of who can go the lowest. That is all you do, over and over again.
Why would I take posting etiquette tips from an avowed forum arsonist?
If you had your way, there wouldn't even be a forum. Everything you say is moot.
Monker wrote: Everybody knows this by now.
"Everybody" ...lol. Everybody, or at least the majority here, disagreed with you. Now they are banned. What remains is a two-person circle-jerk of intolerance.
The few longtime sane posters that remain, like Oh Sherrie, have already called out your behavior.
Monker wrote:
Like I said, this was just an attempt to bait people into a battle of swipes and insults. It's so predictable that it's a bit pathetic.
Mueller over playing an empty hand is the issue. Not insults. If insults bother you so much, have Andrew censor then. You seem to be a big fan of that.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:?
I've got no idea WTF he's on about. And don't care either.
Should I post the private message where you said "spend more time attacking those right-wing nut jobs"?
And is it far-fetched to reason that you told Monker to do the same? PMs are meant to be private. But at this point, who really cares?
Monker wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:?
I've got no idea WTF he's on about. And don't care either.
Should I post the private message where you said "spend more time attacking those right-wing nut jobs"?
And is it far-fetched to reason that you told Monker to do the same? PMs are meant to be private. But at this point, who really cares?
So lame.
So, you took something said to you YEARS ago and are applying it today and making assumptions and inventing conspiracy theories. Such crazy crap.
All that happened is this: I tried to delete me account, I couldn't. So, I deleted all the crap within my profile and IM'd Andrew and told him I was leaving. He IM'd me back and essentially said he understood why and hoped that maybe some time I would come back. So, I decided to stay after that. There is no recruiting liberals or some conspiracy between him and I, or whatever fantasies Team Exiles has invented in their empty heads...it is so simple and uneventful that it is fucking pathetic that it has to be explained.
RPM wrote:Lol... no one asked you to explain it. so you felt wanted /needed when Andrew "hoped you would come back"
well you got the pathetic part right......
S2M wrote:I've said this for close to 20 years...
In the overall scheme of things, Russia is but a pesky gnat to the U.S.
Look to China if you you want to see the biggest threat to this country. They won't do it with nukes, or troops. Financially, they will eviscerate this country.
S2M wrote:I've said this for close to 20 years...
In the overall scheme of things, Russia is but a pesky gnat to the U.S.
Look to China if you you want to see the biggest threat to this country. They won't do it with nukes, or troops. Financially, they will eviscerate this country.
Monker wrote:I disagree with that. Russia has nukes and is an enemy of democracy and the West in general. So, they are more like a single killer bee. As long as there is just one, they are not that dangerous...but it can still sting you...
N. Korea is like a Cicada Killer wasp. A big, fat, nasty looking 2 inch long, yellow and black wasp. Incredibly protective of its territory and charges you to try to scare you away...but it has a tiny stinger that barely hurts. So, it's all for show. Kinda like Trump, in every way.
Monker wrote:This is an example of the split within the Republican party. Max Boot is an ex-Republican who is essentially encouraging traditional Republicans to leave the party...but definitely not a Democrat or liberal. Bill Kristol is a Republican who has been extremely critical of Trump. Then you have the alt-right FOX Trump zombie Tucker Carlson writing a critical article about them. This is NOT an article that would be in a liberal leaning site because NONE OF THOSE INVOLVED ARE LIBERALS. It is nothing more than evidence on how divided the party really is.
Monker wrote:So lame.
So, you took something said to you YEARS ago and are applying it today and making assumptions and inventing conspiracy theories. Such crazy crap.
Monker wrote:All that happened is this: I tried to delete me account, I couldn't. So, I deleted all the crap within my profile and IM'd Andrew and told him I was leaving. He IM'd me back and essentially said he understood why and hoped that maybe some time I would come back. So, I decided to stay after that. There is no recruiting liberals or some conspiracy between him and I, or whatever fantasies Team Exiles has invented in their empty heads...it is so simple and uneventful that it is fucking pathetic that it has to be explained.
Monker wrote:Andrew said some things to me that caused me to rethink and stick around. I haven't answered the question because it is private conversation between Andrew and I - and none of the forums damn business.
Monker wrote: I am NOT trying to pressure Andrew into doing anything nor am I trying to close the forum.
Monker wrote:Hey, Andrew, maybe you can change some of these other links, too. ConservativeTreeHouse can be: ConservativeShitHouse, for example.
Monker wrote: Andrew, can you maybe limit the size of posts? it's going to get a bit ridiculous here if everybody starts pasting entire articles.
Monker wrote: Hey Andrew, maybe you can just ban anybody with K.C. in their nick.
Monker wrote: Andrew, BTW, here is how you change the max post length...about halfway down, it shows the setting
Monker wrote: IMO, he should axe all the forums, not just this thread.
Monker wrote: maybe Andrew should kill the entire MR site and just use FB and Twitter? Hmm.
Monker wrote: So, yes, I would delete this thread for those reasons - if I were Andrew.
Monker wrote: The bottom line is Andrew has a choice. He can host a thread that is an extension of Breit Bart, that is nothing more than a bunch of links, copy/pastes, and memes of alt-right commentary. Or, he can shut it down.
Monker wrote: I believe that is now impossible in THIS thread...and it is up to Andrew on what to do about it. If it were me, I'd shut it down.
Monker wrote: LOL...he took my advice from 100 pages back or so. There are a couple others...and then add a size limit to the posts, maybe 1000 characters, at most
Monker wrote: I don't want to speak for Andrew but I find it amazing that you people are so naive and defensive that you invent this type of stuff, spout out "censorship" type arguments, generalize insults towards liberals and Democrats...all in response to him telling to the above.
Monker wrote: so, tell me...why should this thread even exist? Andrew's embarressed by it.
Monker wrote: I agree. Andrew should ban KC for saying "bimbo" and to keep everything equal, Hillary should be banned, too.
Monker wrote: Andrew, you never did change GatewayPundit to GetawayPundit.
Monker wrote: Sorry, I'm not a moderator. But, if I were, yes, I'd remove you, just as Andrew removed froyline.
Monker wrote:If that is what you think, then you can always leave the forum. Nobody is stopping you from exiting this torturous experience you are describing.
Monker wrote: I tried to do as you say but we had some good long discussion about a few topics without exchanging a single insult. In fact, she doesn't post because she can't take the time to reply to my posts on her tablet...at least that is what she said publicly.
Monker wrote:Why are you talking to yourself about this then? I have no interest in discussing this with you but you keep adding on crap.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote: I am NOT trying to pressure Andrew into doing anything nor am I trying to close the forum.
Oh really? Seems to me that you spend more time telling Andrew what to do than anything else.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:So lame.
So, you took something said to you YEARS ago and are applying it today and making assumptions and inventing conspiracy theories. Such crazy crap.
First you said the PMs didn't exist. Now you are trying to invalidate them by claiming they are from "years ago." I'm not discussing private messages any further. They are private.
The bottom line is this, there was an attempt on here to artificially rally and promote opposition against posters who think and vote differently. That's shitty. Oppose ideas with ideas. Not cyber astroturfing. What's next? Buying Russian bot accounts to spread DNC propaganda on here?
You quit and came back multiple times.
You also have a record of lying. So I don't believe a word of this. In the context of me being asked to attack right wingers on here, I think we know what your conversation was really about.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:If that is what you think, then you can always leave the forum. Nobody is stopping you from exiting this torturous experience you are describing.
I'm doing just fine. You're the one dousing yourself in kerosense and threatening to run into MR headquarters.
Monker wrote: I tried to do as you say but we had some good long discussion about a few topics without exchanging a single insult. In fact, she doesn't post because she can't take the time to reply to my posts on her tablet...at least that is what she said publicly.
Nah, she called you out on your bullshit. It was glorious.
Monker wrote:Why are you talking to yourself about this then? I have no interest in discussing this with you but you keep adding on crap.
Because some of us are here to actually discuss politics and not just cosplay as the human torch from the Fantastic Four. Flame on, flamer.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:This is an example of the split within the Republican party. Max Boot is an ex-Republican who is essentially encouraging traditional Republicans to leave the party...but definitely not a Democrat or liberal. Bill Kristol is a Republican who has been extremely critical of Trump. Then you have the alt-right FOX Trump zombie Tucker Carlson writing a critical article about them. This is NOT an article that would be in a liberal leaning site because NONE OF THOSE INVOLVED ARE LIBERALS. It is nothing more than evidence on how divided the party really is.
The idea that left leaning media, like The Nation or Mother Jones, exclusively covers liberals is inaccurate and downright bizarre. Not sure where you get that from.
The article I posted covered war mongers
who are continually provided a voice by the media despite have a horrible track record.
You are just being argumentative again for argument's sake and trying to burn this bitch down.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:I disagree with that. Russia has nukes and is an enemy of democracy and the West in general. So, they are more like a single killer bee. As long as there is just one, they are not that dangerous...but it can still sting you...
N. Korea is like a Cicada Killer wasp. A big, fat, nasty looking 2 inch long, yellow and black wasp. Incredibly protective of its territory and charges you to try to scare you away...but it has a tiny stinger that barely hurts. So, it's all for show. Kinda like Trump, in every way.
Oh please. Russia has an economy the size of Italy. How can you argue that they are an enemy of democracy when you discount the results of your own country's presidential election? Get real.
Monker wrote:Yes, really. So, you find a bunch of quotes where I am either; continuing the joke of "censoring" links and such (which was VERY funny), or simply stating my opinion. In NONE of these quotes was I telling Andrew what to do...I was giving MY opinion and saying what *I* would do if I were Andrew. So, what, I'm a nobody here, just like you. I have always said that Andrew can do whatever he wants - it is HIS forum.
Monker wrote:And, if you don't like how I post, nobody is stopping you from leaving.
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