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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:33 pm

Yep, and thank fkn Christ the founders were smart enough to implement the Electoral College to sort this problem. Have a look at land area vs. voting and you might see why they set the system up like they did. They were super smart, way ahead of their time in setting up the system.

And if you're so smart sir, put a grando down against Trump in 2020. I'm down. I'll take it further, the largest landslide win in the last 40 years. Is you're big brain down for a real test with real money?


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Aaron wrote:You need to request a scan of the crowd at a Trump rally with 25k people, a complete scan. And then request the same at Sanders rally with 100 people. There's not enough filters/lens/software to hide it.


People like you were making this same type of comment last time...the reality is the Hillary won the popular vote. The size of his rally crowds do not equate to the number of people willing to vote for him. That is a simple fact proven in 2016.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:47 pm

I'm going here one time and done with your pedantic fucking detail. But I'm going to summarize the points so normal people can absorb the material in the tenth the time.
1. Sanders - you're right, he's an independent but in reality a socialist/communist. The Independent hides that. The bottom line his running for the Dem nomination, independent or not.
2. Obama - agree, the populous is not racist, Obama's election proved it. I'm not sure the same is true with Pete. I hope I'm wrong but the public at large, I'm not sure.
3. Biden - I don't think he'll win super Tuesday but it will be close, fair point.
4. Sanders - he can't win the election and the DNC will do everything they can to keep it from happening. Brokered convention, whacked, "heart attack", whatever. The DNC will do everything they can to keep Sanders from getting the nomination.
5. Trumps win last time - you clearly can't follow the rules and are talking shite. Trump won 304 electoral votes vs. 227 electoral votes. I'm not sure what you consider a land slide but the data says Trump won with 57% of the electoral vote. It will be larger in 2020. Put your money where your mouth is omniscient one.

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Aaron wrote:Bernie will take the win if not whacked before hand by his own party.


Bernie is only a Democrat when he decides to run for President. He is an independent, not a Democrat. This is a fact that I brought up in this forum MONTHS ago that only now is being used against him by the others running for the Democrat nomination.

To be real, I don't think Pete can do it. The people proved with Obama's election the population is not racist. I'm not sure the people can bridge the Pete gap. I hope they vote their heart but I'm not sure Pete is electable. [/quote]

ANY of them can do it at this point.

Bottom line is Bernie is their guy.


At this moment in time he is the front runner. But, Biden will win South Carolina, and there are a lot of days before Super Tuesday and a lot of time for people to change who they are going to vote for.

If the Clinton's don't have him whacked or the DNC doesn't whack him he'll be your looser demitard nominee.


Come back when you can act like an adult.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:48 pm

Aaron wrote:Yep, and thank fkn Christ the founders were smart enough to implement the Electoral College to sort this problem. Have a look at land area vs. voting and you might see why they set the system up like they did. They were super smart, way ahead of their time in setting up the system.


This is flat out NOT TRUE. And, since I have repeatedly told you the truth about why the electoral college exists, you are just simply LYING about it now. If you are not lying about it, give me some quotes from any of the founders where they say anything about "land area vs.l voting". It is simply not true, and you are now lying about it.

And if you're so smart sir, put a grando down against Trump in 2020. I'm down. I'll take it further, the largest landslide win in the last 40 years. Is you're big brain down for a real test with real money?


I'm not going bet anything with anybody on any forum, trading addresses and such. That is just nuts.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:12 pm

Electoral college - argue however you want, the results we're shared and Trump won, it's data, he won by 57%. Don't call me a liar because you don't like the results. Facts are facts. When you can't hang with data, you demonize, liar comment worn like a badge of honor. Thanks for showing you have little capability when data is presented.

Bet - no shite, a bureaucratic pundit gets called on his shite and can't back up his narrative with $. Yep it's insane for a dmfk that spews crap that knows nothing. For a person with confidence in their data and projections, easy peasy. The offer continues to stand.

I'll not go into pedantic details any more. I'm out.

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Aaron wrote:Yep, and thank fkn Christ the founders were smart enough to implement the Electoral College to sort this problem. Have a look at land area vs. voting and you might see why they set the system up like they did. They were super smart, way ahead of their time in setting up the system.


This is flat out NOT TRUE. And, since I have repeatedly told you the truth about why the electoral college exists, you are just simply LYING about it now. If you are not lying about it, give me some quotes from any of the founders where they say anything about "land area vs.l voting". It is simply not true, and you are now lying about it.

And if you're so smart sir, put a grando down against Trump in 2020. I'm down. I'll take it further, the largest landslide bgwin in the last 40 years. Is you're big brain down for a real test with real money?


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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:18 pm

Aaron wrote:I'm going here one time and done with your pedantic fucking detail. But I'm going to summarize the points so normal people can absorb the material in the tenth the time.


I don't care how you post, do whatever you want.

1. Sanders - you're right, he's an independent but in reality a socialist/communist. The Independent hides that. The bottom line his running for the Dem nomination, independent or not.


A socialist and communist are two different things. Sanders is not a "Communist". Those that are saying that do not know what they are talking about.

My point in saying he is an independent is that he has no party loyalty...so saying things like "his party" is just not true.

2. Obama - agree, the populous is not racist, Obama's election proved it. I'm not sure the same is true with Pete. I hope I'm wrong but the public at large, I'm not sure.


What are you agreeing with? I have said NOTHING about Obama's election or the "populus" is not racist.

What I said was that any of the Democrats can win......because it is FAR too early to call an election.

3. Biden - I don't think he'll win super Tuesday but it will be close, fair point.


Biden is a perfect example of why you can't call these things so early. He is now projected to win SC by a wide margin...and that may help Super Tuesday. A week ago, he was a weaker candidate. Things happen, like Bloomberg being a horrible debater, those type of things change people's minds.

4. Sanders - he can't win the election and the DNC will do everything they can to keep it from happening. Brokered convention, whacked, "heart attack", whatever. The DNC will do everything they can to keep Sanders from getting the nomination.


Again, that is something you CAN'T predict at this point. At this point in time right now, he beats Trump in the polls. In fact, all of the Democrat front runners beat Trump. So, you saying these things makes no sense.

5. Trumps win last time - you clearly can't follow the rules and are talking shite. Trump won 304 electoral votes vs. 227 electoral votes. I'm not sure what you consider a land slide but the data says Trump won with 57% of the electoral vote. It will be larger in 2020. Put your money where your mouth is omniscient one.


The simple fact is that some of the states he won, he BARELY won. He LOST the popular vote. So, those facts alone do not make the election a land slide. Now you say a "electoral" landslide. When Obama won it was 365 / 173 a 61% margin and people like you were arguing THAT was not a "land slide". A "landslide" is what Reagan did to Mondale or what GHW Bush did to Dukakis. Other elections around 57% are when JFK beat Nixon and Truman vs Dewey....both around %57 and neither was considered a "land slide"...quite the opposite, actually.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:26 pm

Aaron wrote:Electoral college - argue however you want, the results we're shared and Trump won, it's data, he won by 57%. Don't call me a liar because you don't like the results. Facts are facts. When you can't hang with data, you demonize, liar comment worn like a badge of honor. Thanks for showing you have little capability when data is presented.


What are you talking about? I have never argued that Trump did not win the election. What I will say is that it was NOT a "land slide", not even close.

You are LYING when you say the founders added the electoral college because of "land area vs voting", or whatever. I have told you multiple times why the electoral college was added. I have quoted the founders. You have offered NOTHING to back up your claims...and you know by now what the truth is, so yes, you are lying about it.

Bet - no shite, a bureaucratic pundit gets called on his shite and can't back up his narrative with $. Yep it's insane for a dmfk that spews crap that knows nothing. For a person with confidence in their data and projections, easy peasy. The offer continues to stand.


After some of the things that have been posted here, you actually think I'm going to go there, you're crazy.

And, I am NOT projecting anything. I am saying you CAN'T project an election in November based on how things are at the end of February. Just can't be done.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:21 pm

Hey Aaron, that wasn’t aimed at you mate. You’re free to support the Orange Sphincter as long as you like.

I did note that today, at his latest white supremest hate rally, he says the corona virus is a democratic hoax to undermine him. He does know that it originated in Gyna and is spreading worldwide? Not just in his (yuge) brain?
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:52 pm

Hey Drew,

You're my dog. What did our president to today to piss people off .... breath. :)

Come over and have a stay, you're always welcome at our house bro!

But you might get an education if you come :)

Let's roll.

Hey, on a musical not. Decarlo seems to be BAD ASS. Where's your coverage man?

Greta Van Fleet with Decarlo opening could be the tour of the year. WTF?

Andrew wrote:Hey Aaron, that wasn’t aimed at you mate. You’re free to support the Orange Sphincter as long as you like.

I did note that today, at his latest white supremest hate rally, he says the corona virus is a democratic hoax to undermine him. He does know that it originated in Gyna and is spreading worldwide? Not just in his (yuge) brain?
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:56 pm

Like I said one time and I'm out. I'm not playing to your pedantic level of detail that's irrelevant. Played once, owned you, I'm out.

Hey, where's Decarlo? It's pretty fuckin good!

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Aaron wrote:Electoral college - argue however you want, the results we're shared and Trump won, it's data, he won by 57%. Don't call me a liar because you don't like the results. Facts are facts. When you can't hang with data, you demonize, liar comment worn like a badge of honor. Thanks for showing you have little capability when data is presented.


What are you talking about? I have never argued that Trump did not win the election. What I will say is that it was NOT a "land slide", not even close.

You are LYING when you say the founders added the electoral college because of "land area vs voting", or whatever. I have told you multiple times why the electoral college was added. I have quoted the founders. You have offered NOTHING to back up your claims...and you know by now what the truth is, so yes, you are lying about it.

Bet - no shite, a bureaucratic pundit gets called on his shite and can't back up his narrative with $. Yep it's insane for a dmfk that spews crap that knows nothing. For a person with confidence in their data and projections, easy peasy. The offer continues to stand.


After some of the things that have been posted here, you actually think I'm going to go there, you're crazy.

And, I am NOT projecting anything. I am saying you CAN'T project an election in November based on how things are at the end of February. Just can't be done.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:19 am

Aaron wrote:Like I said one time and I'm out. I'm not playing to your pedantic level of detail that's irrelevant. Played once, owned you, I'm out.


You don't own anything. You don't even own your points, you can't even talk about them.

Hey, where's Decarlo? It's pretty fuckin good!


Pretty mediocre cover band.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Marabelle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:18 am

Good Lawd, it’s like having Billy Bob make life and death decisions. If you cannot trust him to go to the store and remember to buy those 3 things you even wrote on a list; how’s in God’s green earth would you trust him to save the life of us all?
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:42 pm

I see no counter points on topic so ... you be the judge.

Man give it a fair shake. It's Tommy with his kid and friends. I'm for a bit. Better vocals than any I've heard in a few years. Other than Greta Van Fleet but it's a different vibe. Where you at boss?

Zero cover. Once again fake news. Man ...

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Aaron wrote:Like I said one time and I'm out. I'm not playing to your pedantic level of detail that's irrelevant. Played once, owned you, I'm out.


You don't own anything. You don't even own your points, you can't even talk about them.

Hey, where's Decarlo? It's pretty fuckin good!


Pretty mediocre cover band.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:10 am

In addition, Clinton told Davis that she was concerned that Sanders' potential nomination could ruin the liberal party's chances of keeping its majority in the House of Representatives or flipping the Republican-held Senate.


Shit, you know it's bad when Hillary and I agree on something.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:11 pm

HA!
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In addition, Clinton told Davis that she was concerned that Sanders' potential nomination could ruin the liberal party's chances of keeping its majority in the House of Representatives or flipping the Republican-held Senate.


Shit, you know it's bad when Hillary and I agree on something.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby verslibre » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:51 pm

Aaron wrote:Greta Van Fleet with Decarlo opening could be the tour of the year.


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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Aaron wrote:I see no counter points on topic so ... you be the judge.


Whatever.

You said Sanders was the choice. I said it is WAY too early to say that. Now, Biden wins SC, and has dominated Super Tuesday...and has essentially evened things up.

You said the Democrats could fracture into two parties, socialists and sane moderates. I said no way. Now you have the party rallying around Biden. Now, it will be you and Trumpzombies saying it was rigged against him.

The bottom line is what you predicted just isn't going to happen.

Man give it a fair shake. It's Tommy with his kid and friends. I'm for a bit. Better vocals than any I've heard in a few years. Other than Greta Van Fleet but it's a different vibe. Where you at boss?

Zero cover. Once again fake news. Man ...


I did a Youtube search and he has a bunch of Boston covers, Journey covers (DSB), and Styx covers. I did some more research and I guess he was with Boston? That dim RealMusicObserver guy even said he is playing a Hugo and trying to LOOK like Brad Delp...and please don't click those - he doesn't deserve the traffic. I didn't know he had a new album out until you posted the link...but even that song is sooo mediocre.

I LIKE Greta Van Fleet...but their new album sounds like more of the same. They have more talent than just emulating Zep. Their lead guitarist if fantastic and the lead singer has more versatility than just doing a Robert Plant imitation. If they don't diversify their sound, they will fade away, and deservedly.

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Aaron wrote:Like I said one time and I'm out. I'm not playing to your pedantic level of detail that's irrelevant. Played once, owned you, I'm out.


You don't own anything. You don't even own your points, you can't even talk about them.

Hey, where's Decarlo? It's pretty fuckin good!


Pretty mediocre cover band.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:41 am

So, now Bloomberg has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Biden should ask Elizabeth Warren to be VP, and for her endorsement. If something like that happens, Bernie's chances will become very small. All of the momentum is for Biden, even if CA puts Sanders ahead in delegates.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:15 pm

Monker wrote:So, now Bloomberg has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Biden should ask Elizabeth Warren to be VP, and for her endorsement. If something like that happens, Bernie's chances will become very small. All of the momentum is for Biden, even if CA puts Sanders ahead in delegates.


Yea, cause she is so popular.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:49 pm

Memorex wrote:
Monker wrote:So, now Bloomberg has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Biden should ask Elizabeth Warren to be VP, and for her endorsement. If something like that happens, Bernie's chances will become very small. All of the momentum is for Biden, even if CA puts Sanders ahead in delegates.


Yea, cause she is so popular.


No, it has nothing to do with popularity. When Obama chose Biden, was he the most popular? How popular was that vampire guy that W chose? Al Gore for Clinton. Mr. Potatoe for GHW? And, Warren had a big hand in kicking Bloomberg to the curb in the debates.

I say choose Warren to further unite the Democratic party by reaching out to the liberal wing of the party. and having a very qualified woman to boot. If he does this, IMO, Sanders will most likely lose. If not, it could be an open race through the convention.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby ebake02 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 am

Monker wrote:So, now Bloomberg has dropped out and endorsed Biden.

Biden should ask Elizabeth Warren to be VP, and for her endorsement. If something like that happens, Bernie's chances will become very small. All of the momentum is for Biden, even if CA puts Sanders ahead in delegates.


At this point I would be happy about that if it keeps Bernie out of the white house
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:24 am

IMO, this is now Biden's nomination to lose. Unless there is a HUGE fumble by Biden, he will win. Sanders even seems to know this, judging by his recent comments of winning the policy debate but not winning the votes. If they are smart they will work to try to transition Bernie's voters into Biden voters...and further consolidate the party.

So, we now have almost 10,000 points whacked off the stock market. So much for looking at your 401k's and deciding to vote for Trump. That bubble burst in a big way.

Trump's handling of the coronavirus is absolutely dismal. It seems people always look for a "Katrina moment". This is exactly what it is for Trump. His incompetence is going to kill people. That is not an exaggeration. Just as W failed to lead during Katrina, Trump is failing to lead right now. And, his exaggerations and outright lies are not excusable during this crisis. It has proven, beyond doubt, that he is not worthy of the office.

The economy is almost certainly headed for recession now. The economy is no longer a selling point for Trump's reelection...the one thing that may have helped him get reelected is now gone.

I said a few weeks ago that things change and it was too early to call an election that doesn't happen until November when it is still February. This chaos is exactly why. And, yes, things can change again in be in favor of Trump....but right now, it's not looking good.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby verslibre » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:40 am

Klump looked so concerned on TV the other night...not.

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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:05 am

Monker wrote:IMO, this is now Biden's nomination to lose. Unless there is a HUGE fumble by Biden, he will win. Sanders even seems to know this, judging by his recent comments of winning the policy debate but not winning the votes. If they are smart they will work to try to transition Bernie's voters into Biden voters...and further consolidate the party.

So, we now have almost 10,000 points whacked off the stock market. So much for looking at your 401k's and deciding to vote for Trump. That bubble burst in a big way.

Trump's handling of the coronavirus is absolutely dismal. It seems people always look for a "Katrina moment". This is exactly what it is for Trump. His incompetence is going to kill people. That is not an exaggeration. Just as W failed to lead during Katrina, Trump is failing to lead right now. And, his exaggerations and outright lies are not excusable during this crisis. It has proven, beyond doubt, that he is not worthy of the office.

The economy is almost certainly headed for recession now. The economy is no longer a selling point for Trump's reelection...the one thing that may have helped him get reelected is now gone.

I said a few weeks ago that things change and it was too early to call an election that doesn't happen until November when it is still February. This chaos is exactly why. And, yes, things can change again in be in favor of Trump....but right now, it's not looking good.


Are you under the illusion that the stock market will not roar back in short order after this craziness passes? Do you honestly think a seasonal virus, that is not that bad and already on the decline in China, is going to derail the economy for 9 months? Have you met Americans? They will be back to spending money at record rates in no time.

I don't see his handling of this as dismal at all. It's a new kind of thing and the media is in a frenzy. You need to turn the channel or turn off the TV or read something new. People are over the get-Trump stuff. In any case, it will all pass. Americans have a short memory. State of Emergency today and all the other actions after only 40 dead here. You need to go back and look how long it took to declare the same with H1N1. Millions of infected, 1,000+ dead. And I don't fault Obama. It is just shit that happens and it's all new.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:06 pm

Memorex wrote:Are you under the illusion that the stock market will not roar back in short order after this craziness passes? Do you honestly think a seasonal virus, that is not that bad and already on the decline in China, is going to derail the economy for 9 months? Have you met Americans? They will be back to spending money at record rates in no time.


Point is, there was someone on here who was giving the Democrat nomination to Sanders. Point is you had somebody on here counting Biden out of the nomination. Point is that you had someone on here willing to bet the farm that Trump would win the largest electoral win in decades. Point is that it was the general Trumpzombie talking point that the economy would reelect Trump. Point is that I said very clearly that you can't call an election in November by what is happening in February. Point is that you can't do that in March either, and I'm not trying. I am simply saying that EVERYTHING that was said a few weeks ago had turned to bullshit.

However, you can not call coronavirus a "seasonal" virus. It is a new virus and this fact is unknown.
We are not China. Is this country going to support locking down entire states, and monitoring the movements of citizens to enforce the lock down?
The economy was in a bubble and this is what burst it. There are all kinds of indicators for recession and this just happened to be the final straw. You are naive to think that ending the pandemic will end the recession.
You are assuming many things, and are factually wrong about others.

I don't see his handling of this as dismal at all.


Testing, hospital capacity, equipment capacity. None of these are/were addressed early enough...and people may die because of it....the same as Katrina and sending federal aid. Then there are the constant lies from Trump. He lies about the vaccine, repeatedly. He lies about it getting better, while every expert in the same new s conference said it would get worse. Nobody can believe anything that the Whitehouse says.

It's a new kind of thing and the media is in a frenzy.


Funny how you say it's a new thing and then later mention H1N1. It's NOT new. H1N1 showed weakness in how we were prepared for a virus like this. Trump not only chose to ignore that, but cut programs designed to stop it...and had even deeper cuts proposed. Trump IGNORED the lessons of H1N1.

People are over the get-Trump stuff


I don't care. His leadership does not exist in this crisis. He has led NOTHING. It reminds me of when W told people to go shopping to help after 9/11, or to shrinkwrap your house to protect it from chemical attacks. He LIES about vaccines. He LIES about it being seasonal. He LIES about it suddenly getting better "like a miracle". He has done nothing to lead us in this crisis.

[quolte]You need to go back and look how long it took to declare the same with H1N1. Millions of infected, 1,000+ dead. And I don't fault Obama. It is just shit that happens and it's all new.[/quote]

"Then, the CDC’s flu surveillance network actually sounded the alarm, spotting two children in California who were the first diagnosed cases of the new flu strain. About two weeks later, the U.S. declared a public health emergency and CDC began releasing anti-flu drugs from the national stockpile to help hospitals get ready. Trump declared a state of emergency Friday, seven weeks after the first U.S. case of COVID-19 was announced."

Coronavirus IS a real issue. Yeah, it has similar symptoms to the flu, but it is NOT the same. The death rate is higher. It doesn't affect kids nearly as often. The death rate among seniors is higher. There are treatments for the flu, there are none for the coronavirus...you manager the symptoms. There are flu vaccines, there is none for the coronavirus, and won't be for a long time.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Memorex » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:24 am

It's easy to say that the death rate is higher when only the sickest of people have been tested. That doesn't account for the likely thousands that have it that have mild or no symptoms. If you tested everyone today. you will raise the infected number a ton and not raise the death number, thus the percentage falls drastically.

I did put in my comments weeks ago that the economy falling could be the factor that hurts Trump. But even then, it's not like people will think Biden is going to turn anything around.

I said the DNC wanted Biden. Did they take it from Bernie - probably not. Not sure. I do think America is not socialist at all, so Bernie had an uphill battle. But if you note the way other candidates exited and threw their support behind Biden, I guarantee you much of that was negotiated in order to prop him up and hurt Bernie. That's what the DNC wanted.

Either way, I still don't see any way Trump loses. Biden is not all there mentally and he is going to have a tough time with the schedule he will have to keep. Note how poorly Hillary did in keeping up against Trump's energy.
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Postby Monker » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:34 am

Memorex wrote:It's easy to say that the death rate is higher when only the sickest of people have been tested. That doesn't account for the likely thousands that have it that have mild or no symptoms. If you tested everyone today. you will raise the infected number a ton and not raise the death number, thus the percentage falls drastically.


My point is that comparing coronavirus to the flu is an invalid comparison from the start. They are two completely different viruses. If you tested everybody today, you would also find people who are dying but misdiagnosed. Regardless, if with your theory, they death rate is FAR higher than the flu.

I did put in my comments weeks ago that the economy falling could be the factor that hurts Trump. But even then, it's not like people will think Biden is going to turn anything around.


And, somebody else said the Democrats picked their man, Sanders...and there would be an electoral landslide like we had not seen in decades. And, just as he assumed things, you are doing so above. Whether you like it or not, Biden was VP of the administration that led us out of the Great Recession. He was also VP of the administration who started the longest economic expansion in history - and handed it off to Trump, where it failed....just as Clinton handed off an economy to W, who also led the country to recession. Point is - you can not predict with any certainty how the politics of this is going to play out.

I said the DNC wanted Biden. Did they take it from Bernie - probably not. Not sure.


And, I say that the DNC has the right to do what it believes is right and if protecting the party from an independent who is only a Democrat during the Presidential election is what they believe is best, it is up to them and their voters. I don't care.

I do think America is not socialist at all


Not true. Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, the postal service, the interstate highway system, AMTRAC are all examples of socialist programs within the United States.

But if you note the way other candidates exited and threw their support behind Biden, I guarantee you much of that was negotiated in order to prop him up and hurt Bernie. That's what the DNC wanted.


I don't think that is completely true. If Klobachar or Pete had done what Biden did in SC and Super Tuesday, I think you would have seen everybody support whoever was ahead. They waited for an obvious front runner. Also, none of these candidates could have won the nomination so there was no reason to stay in the race.

Either way, I still don't see any way Trump loses. Biden is not all there mentally and he is going to have a tough time with the schedule he will have to keep. Note how poorly Hillary did in keeping up against Trump's energy.


That's just more propaganda. But, that's fine...Trump will win no matter what. It's so obvious that you don't even need to vote in November.
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Postby Marabelle » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:08 am

That’s some crazy stuff there.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby verslibre » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:44 am

Dow just took its biggest shit ever since '87.
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Re: Donald J Trump Fox News Approved Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:15 pm

verslibre wrote:Dow just took its biggest shit ever since '87.


Yep...I was watching the Trump news conference on CNN. After Trump said this could go on through the summer and that a recession is possible, CNN added the DOW ticker thing and you could watch it drop from a 2,000 point loss to a 3,000 point loss...as they were speaking Kinda crazy. When asked about it all he said was, "the market will take care of itself." It's unavoidable at this point, he can't lie any longer about the virus to slow the sell off, they can't drop interest rates any further - unless they go negative, all they can do is wait it out...or maybe beg Pelosi for a stimulus from congress...LOL.

The thing is NOW is the time to start buying into the market. I've been out of the market since around the time of the China tariffs. So, now I am starting to slowly add it back in. Trump and friends are right that it will come back....but they were wrong to hype up the bloated market as much as they did. When it gets back to 30,000, I'll make a small fortune.
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