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Arkansas wrote:I think that if John McCain wins, it'll probably be because most people feel compelled to NOT vote for Obama. I wish McCain would win outright, but it'll most likely be not a McCain win, but an Obama loss.
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classicstyxfan wrote:Interesting perspective..... I would hope the American Public will know enough about him in the next 6 months to make an informed choice.......provided he is asked some tough questions between now and the General election. The debates, especially if they are of the non-traditional variety being proposed by McCain should be most helpful.
If Obama is being deceitful, because his shoulders arent all that broad, he could earn the nickname "cunning runt"...........
now if they'd only come up with a nickname for Hillary.........
Arkansas wrote:I think that if John McCain wins, it'll probably be because most people feel compelled to NOT vote for Obama. I wish McCain would win outright, but it'll most likely be not a McCain win, but an Obama loss.
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strangegrey wrote:Now, we've got two dorks running for the highest office of the land. One has one foot in the grave, the other has more hidden surprises than a Bill Clinton STD screening.
Too bad...Obama getting the dem nod, just sealed my vote with the fucking piece of shit on the Right. and I fucking hate the fact that I'm going to fucking vote repub this november.


strangegrey wrote:This article was one of the first ones I read when I unfolded the Journal this morning. Well, fucking democrats had their chance to vet out these issues before they gave the nod to this fucking waste of breath.
Now, we've got two dorks running for the highest office of the land. One has one foot in the grave, the other has more hidden surprises than a Bill Clinton STD screening.
Too bad...Obama getting the dem nod, just sealed my vote with the fucking piece of shit on the Right. and I fucking hate the fact that I'm going to fucking vote repub this november.
squirt1 wrote:Very good stonecold ! There is also a guy who hung with terrorists and one just indicted in Chicago for lots of reasons, but one sold valuable property to Obama at a huge,huge discount. Chicago politics has to be considered when it is so corrupt up there. I always told my kids- who you hang with is what you are. So this guy has the poor decision making processes not to have figured them out over 20 yrs. HE is scary and so are the voter airheads that think he is qualified, even for the Senate.
squirt1 wrote:Congress has most the power to change the country. Those clowns only worry about their pet projects to get votes. Why don't we drill for own oil oil. Thankfully ,a new refinery is being build in the Dakotas that the people voted for. I think the country will lynch the politocos when gas /deisel reaches $ 8-9.00 as in Europe.
squirt1 wrote:Congress has most the power to change the country. Those clowns only worry about their pet projects to get votes. Why don't we drill for own oil oil. Thankfully ,a new refinery is being build in the Dakotas that the people voted for. I think the country will lynch the politocos when gas /deisel reaches $ 8-9.00 as in Europe.
SteveForever wrote:squirt1 wrote:Congress has most the power to change the country. Those clowns only worry about their pet projects to get votes. Why don't we drill for own oil oil. Thankfully ,a new refinery is being build in the Dakotas that the people voted for. I think the country will lynch the politocos when gas /deisel reaches $ 8-9.00 as in Europe.
with very little light rails in this country we are totally screwed if our gas gets that high!
squirt1 wrote:Congress has most the power to change the country. Those clowns only worry about their pet projects to get votes. Why don't we drill for own oil oil. Thankfully ,a new refinery is being build in the Dakotas that the people voted for. I think the country will lynch the politocos when gas /deisel reaches $ 8-9.00 as in Europe.

7 Wishes wrote:Come on, guys. In order to enact any legislation, you have to have at least 60 votes, not 51. The oil companies have most Republican politicians in their collective back pockets. Don't even try to pawn this one over to the other side.
conversationpc wrote:7 Wishes wrote:Come on, guys. In order to enact any legislation, you have to have at least 60 votes, not 51. The oil companies have most Republican politicians in their collective back pockets. Don't even try to pawn this one over to the other side.
Democrats have staunchly stood against drilling of our coasts (when foreign countries can drill a few miles further out and engage in horizontal drilling basically taking our oil away from us) and Anwar, against drilling into the oil shale, and against building additional refineries. All of these things and others would really be helping us achieve energy independence right now when we need it the most. Republicans don't get off the hook, either. They are just as much to blame for coddling countries whose governments should basically be considered our enemies.
San Diego Gary wrote:conversationpc wrote:7 Wishes wrote:Come on, guys. In order to enact any legislation, you have to have at least 60 votes, not 51. The oil companies have most Republican politicians in their collective back pockets. Don't even try to pawn this one over to the other side.
Democrats have staunchly stood against drilling of our coasts (when foreign countries can drill a few miles further out and engage in horizontal drilling basically taking our oil away from us) and Anwar, against drilling into the oil shale, and against building additional refineries. All of these things and others would really be helping us achieve energy independence right now when we need it the most. Republicans don't get off the hook, either. They are just as much to blame for coddling countries whose governments should basically be considered our enemies.
You mean like the way China, Cuba, and Venezuela are drilling 50 miles off the coast of Florida?

conversationpc wrote:SteveForever wrote:squirt1 wrote:Congress has most the power to change the country. Those clowns only worry about their pet projects to get votes. Why don't we drill for own oil oil. Thankfully ,a new refinery is being build in the Dakotas that the people voted for. I think the country will lynch the politocos when gas /deisel reaches $ 8-9.00 as in Europe.
with very little light rails in this country we are totally screwed if our gas gets that high!
That's a major problem in the Indianapolis area. 12th largest city in the country and only buses for mass transit and even those aren't really all that accessible. No subways. No light rail. Nothing.
San Diego Gary wrote:I assume your area is like Southern California, and UNLIKE the crush of the eastern seaboard, where the population and destinations are CONCENTRATED. HUGE difference.
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