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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:21 am

Enigma869 wrote:Well, I don't ever recall Obama ever saying that he was going to bring in a bunch of Washington "outsiders" into his administration.


It's kinda hard to bring about real change when all the people you're bringing in have been perpetuating the type of stuff everyone has come to hate about Washington politics. That's beside the fact that Obama also perpetuated the Chicago political machine while he was there.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:23 am

Fact Finder wrote:Hillary to accept Sec. of State according to Fox and NY Times.


NBC is announcing it's a done deal and Hillary is the Secretary of State.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:24 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Hillary to accept Sec. of State according to Fox and NY Times.


NBC is announcing it's a done deal and Hillary is the Secretary of State.


Looks like she managed to worm her way into that one.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:41 am

Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.
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Postby AlteredDNA » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:31 am

Fact Finder wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Wall Street liked the safe Geithner pick, that made me feel a bit better.


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 85124.aspx

Geithner has been a key player in the current economic crisis -- helping Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and his team manage the wall street bailout.


hmm....
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Postby separate_wayz » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:46 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Probably not after Ralph Nader called Barack Obama "Uncle Tom". :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo
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Postby Saint John » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:48 am

I like his picks thus far. We need experience right now and these picks are ok by me.
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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:09 am

separate_wayz wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Probably not after Ralph Nader called Barack Obama "Uncle Tom". :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo


While the words Nader used were stupid and unnecessary and he should have never said, the dickweed FoxNews dweeb reporter grandstands, dramatizes and tries to make rating for himself out of it. Nader was pathetic saying what he said, but the reporter is just as bad.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:03 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Its the second and third line appointees which will tell you about the direction of an administration. Never look at the Secretarires.. just wait until the Under Secretaries and deputy undersecretaries are appointed, then you can decide whether you are excited, unimpressed, or sicekend by Obama.
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:33 am

Rick wrote:
separate_wayz wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Probably not after Ralph Nader called Barack Obama "Uncle Tom". :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo


While the words Nader used were stupid and unnecessary and he should have never said, the dickweed FoxNews dweeb reporter grandstands, dramatizes and tries to make rating for himself out of it. Nader was pathetic saying what he said, but the reporter is just as bad.


Unbelievable. I never saw this. Why did he have to make it racial? All he had to do was to call Obama out on the issues. I like what the interviewer did in the beginning about the statement, drilling him on that comment, but he definitely carried on too long with his point. Sad part is you don't even really hear about this comment. That's how truly irrelevant Nader is now.
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:33 pm

separate_wayz wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Probably not after Ralph Nader called Barack Obama "Uncle Tom". :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo


Geez is Nader taking his cue from Al Queda these days?
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:21 pm

Fact Finder wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Agree with Dave.
Obama is playing it safe....too safe.
Until he does something truly out of the box, like, say, Nader for Secretary of Labor, color me unimpressed.


Its the second and third line appointees which will tell you about the direction of an administration. Never look at the Secretarires.. just wait until the Under Secretaries and deputy undersecretaries are appointed, then you can decide whether you are excited, unimpressed, or sicekend by Obama.




This is a bit of good news I think...


Sources tell ABC News that Defense Secretary Robert Gates will be staying on in the top Pentagon job, for at least the first year of the Obama administration. "It is a done deal," a source close to the process tells ABC News.



Yes this definitely good news. Gates and Jack Jones (Ntl Security Adviser) are sensible choices. Obama realises that he has to live in the real world when pursuing foreign policy. I bet you see nothing different in Obama's foreign policy- he'll just get better press. Hell probably invade Syria and Iran and get annointed a hero by the Daily Kos.

You'll also see no difference in Economic policy- Tim Geithner is of the same cloth as Hank Paulson, and Bush governed the economy like a Democrat effectively turning his back on the legacy of smaller govt which dominated during the Reagan and Clinton years.

The only difference will be in abortion policy (which the executive branch has little influence on anyway) and supreme court judges.

Couldve just kept the old crew in charge for awhile longer and saved ourselves all the heated arguments, money spent on bitter commercials and campaigns. Hell with all that money we could have bought poor folks soup, bread and a twelve pack of old milwaukee every day for four years. :D
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:32 am

Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:Hell probably invade Syria and Iran and get annointed a hero by the Daily Kos.


Considering it was pressure from online liberal activist groups that recently made Obama's pro-torture National Intelligence Director take his hat out of the running, I doubt that.
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Postby Jana » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:18 pm

I'm feeling so hopeful and positive about the Obama presidency. Just watching today the announcement of his National Security team and his comments regarding his appointments I'm really impressed with him so far, especially Gates and Hillary Clinton :D .
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