Manila YouTubes here.

[Tito]

When You Love a Woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ok5sAkP ... annel_page

You absolutely have to love the guys on AP's site.

WOW. Actually sounds better than any of the shows I attended last year. Good Job, AP!!! Yeeeeaaaaayeeea! Sounds to me like he's been working on his pronunciation.

He must be reading here and taken "sound" advice

or sage advice.

[Rick]

When You Love a Woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ok5sAkP ... annel_page

You absolutely have to love the guys on AP's site.

WOW. Actually sounds better than any of the shows I attended last year. Good Job, AP!!! Yeeeeaaaaayeeea! Sounds to me like he's been working on his pronunciation.

He must be reading here and taken "sound" advice

or sage advice.

Very, very good performance. He was fantastic in Manila.

[Gideon]

Jesus, has anyone listened to the revamped "Wheel in the Sky"?

They dropped the old intro and solo and included a badass jam session. Colossal improvement.

[Deacon]

Where it be, Jeshya?

[Gideon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsrRqFd ... annel_page

Neal's first solo starts at 3:37.

The jam session (which consists of a second, third, fourth, fifth... millionth solo) starts at around the 4:00 mark.

[Deacon]

Thanks.

[Deacon]

Here is the appropriate thread.

LOL - I see Arnel took a bit of fashion advice from Neal during the Nashville concert.

And, even better, the Asians singing the chorus! Priceless.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsrRqFdKLg&feature=channel_page

Neal's first solo starts at 3:37.

The jam session (which consists of a second, third, fourth, fifth... millionth solo) starts at around the 4:00 mark.

Yeah, that rocks a little bit.

[Rick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsrRqFdKLg&feature=channel_page

Neal's first solo starts at 3:37.

The jam session (which consists of a second, third, fourth, fifth... millionth solo) starts at around the 4:00 mark.

Yeah, that rocks a little bit.

I loved it. That kicked ass.

[Gideon]

Easily the best WitS I've ever heard, even if it's only for that jam session. These improvements to the dirty dozen have simply been brilliant.

[Rick]

Easily the best WitS I've ever heard, even if it's only for that jam session. These improvements to the dirty dozen have simply been brilliant.

Agreed. Takes the staleness out of those songs. Very refreshing to see. They are daring to rock!

[Gideon]

Easily the best WitS I've ever heard, even if it's only for that jam session. These improvements to the dirty dozen have simply been brilliant.

Agreed. Takes the staleness out of those songs. Very refreshing to see. They are daring to rock!

I haven't heard a good quality version of "Any Way You Want It" to gauge the new keyboard solo therein. But everything else? Fantastic.

[Deacon]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Easily the best WitS I've ever heard, even if it's only for that jam session. These improvements to the dirty dozen have simply been brilliant.

Agreed. Takes the staleness out of those songs. Very refreshing to see. They are daring to rock!

I haven't heard a good quality version of "Any Way You Want It" to gauge the new keyboard solo therein. But everything else? Fantastic.

I haven't heard a good quality one either, but I must say that I do like how the keyboard solo break leads right back into Neal's solo near the end of the song. Great addition, as are all of the additions to the Dirty Dozen.

[Deacon]

Open Arms is amazing, as well.

The Jon/Neal solo at the beginning was enthralling.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Gotta hand it to them...the new touch-ups sound seamless.
You would think they would sound unnecessary, or at worse, a knee-jerk attempt to modernize their sound, but these are really at the service of the material.
Fits the dozen like a mink trojan.

[Gideon]

Gotta hand it to them...the new touch-ups sound seamless.
You would think they would sound unnecessary, or at worse, a knee-jerk attempt to modernize their sound, but these are really at the service of the material.
Fits the dozen like a mink trojan.

What was the weakest touch up to you?

[Lula]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

[Deacon]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

To all of those upon this forum that worship Steve Perry as their God, maybe. To others [the ones that are capable of actual, rational thought], it is merely a subjective statement.

[Gideon]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

lol.

I hope you're kidding. He's entitled to his opinion. Honestly, my dad and I prefer Deen's version of "Mother, Father" overall to Perry's live. Not because he is the better singer, but because, unlike Perry, he doesn't have to sing an hour and a half's worth of material per night and can reserve his voice for such a performance.

[Michigan Girl]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

lol.

I hope you're kidding. He's entitled to his opinion. Honestly, my dad and I prefer Deen's version of "Mother, Father" overall to Perry's live. Not because he is the better singer, but because, unlike Perry, he doesn't have to sing an hour and a half's worth of material per night and can reserve his voice for such a performance.

While I certainly appreciate your opinion, have you heard Perry's version of "Mother, Father", live?!?!?
I do enjoy Deen's version!!

[Gideon]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

lol.

I hope you're kidding. He's entitled to his opinion. Honestly, my dad and I prefer Deen's version of "Mother, Father" overall to Perry's live. Not because he is the better singer, but because, unlike Perry, he doesn't have to sing an hour and a half's worth of material per night and can reserve his voice for such a performance.

While I certainly appreciate your opinon, have you heard Perry's version of "Mother, Father", live?!?!?
I do enjoy Deen's version!!

I have. Many, many, many times. Perry impresses on "Mother, Father" particularly when one considers the fact that he had a much longer setlist to sing than Deen and still managed the outro falsetto notes. But, despite inferior power, I preferred Deen's much more controlled and powerful tone (again, he could reserve all his energy for that song, unlike Perry) and the moneyshot chorus notes, which were much stronger than Perry's. This is ignoring the fact that he demonstrates greater breath control despite playing the fuck out of the drums, placing his diaphragm in an awkward position.

But if Perry-in-his-prime didn't have to sing an entire set? He'd kick Deen's ass without question in my book.

[Lula]

i am a huge fan of deen castronovo. it is absurd to me to think that someone singing a song that has perry's stamp on it does a better job than the one that gave the damn song the distinct vocal sound. everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion, including me. so there!

[Jana]

Mother, Father is of excellent quality.

Deen does a fantastic job of covering it. I believe that his tone of voice almost suits the song more so than Perry's.

bite your tongue!! complete blasphemy.

lol.

I hope you're kidding. He's entitled to his opinion. Honestly, my dad and I prefer Deen's version of "Mother, Father" overall to Perry's live. Not because he is the better singer, but because, unlike Perry, he doesn't have to sing an hour and a half's worth of material per night and can reserve his voice for such a performance.

What's that got to do with it? Any clip available of Perry singing Mother Father is perfection,no tiredness or fatigue evident. Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

[Deacon]

What's that got to do with it? Any clip of Perry available of him singing Mother Father is perfection,no tiredness or fatigue evident. Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

If you focus on clips within the audio version, such as on a media player, you can hear Perry inhale and exhale quite profusely whenever he isn't singing so stating that he was not evidently fatigued is incorrect. He may not have looked as though he was fatigued, but, the audio disproves that.

[Gideon]

What's that got to do with it?

Quite a bit. Perry was touring, what? If memory serves from a recent interview with Rolie, Perry was on the road up to 9 months out of the year. Journey toured more than alcoholics drink. With such a demanding catalogue, there can be no question that it took a great deal out of Perry.

Any clip of Perry available of him singing Mother Father is perfection,

No.

There is no such thing as perfection, be it Perry, Arnel, Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell, Jeff Scott Soto, whomever.

no tiredness or fatigue evident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjUp8zMVR94

^ Is he having an orgasm, then, at 5:32 on out?

Let's be logical, folks. It's not knocking Perry to conclude that the guy was human. A relentless bastard, vocally, who took on a superhuman catalogue on an inhumane fucking tour schedule and lasted nearly a decade. But he wasn't perfect and it did wear him out. Perry himself has admitted with constant admissions of being "burned out" and "drained" and "dry" that it was hardly effortless.

Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

Yep.

[Don]

I think Deen's singing, while nice and clear, is very hollow sounding, no baritone at all. I think he would be geat in a church choir depending on which section he was put in.

[Gideon]

I think Deen's singing, while nice and clear, is very hollow sounding, no baritone at all. I think he would be geat in a church choir depending on which section he was put in.

Exactly.

Deen's problem is, unlike Perry, he hasn't demonstrated impressive range or power in his vocals. Does he sound great? Absolutely. But people always assume that a high register tonality means you must have a range that spans six octaves. He's got awesome breath control that is easily on par with anything Perry has ever done (or Arnel or JSS), but he lacks the force and the range.

[Jana]

What's that got to do with it? Any clip of Perry available of him singing Mother Father is perfection,no tiredness or fatigue evident. Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

If you focus on clips within the audio version, such as on a media player, you can hear Perry inhale and exhale quite profusely whenever he isn't singing so stating that he was not evidently fatigued is incorrect. He may not have looked as though he was fatigued, but, the audio disproves that.

His vocals on Mother Father are far superior to Deen no matter what. I still love Deen's performance b/c of what I stated up above just as much.

[Gideon]

His vocals on Mother Father are far superior to Deen no matter what.

This sort of absolute statement surprises me coming from you. But, as ever, you're entitled to your opinion. I think Deen does a better job. Deen's breath control, especially at his age, is just fucking ridiculous. Better than anything I've heard of Perry. But the great one had to deal with an obscene touring schedule and two hour sets per night.

Unfair to compare them without context. Under ideal circumstances, Perry would likely have destroyed him (in my book, anyways).