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Postby Jana » Fri May 01, 2009 6:43 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
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texafana wrote:Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...


Your bitterness is showing. I recognize that feeling. It's how I felt every day with Bush in his second term. Notice I said second term. Because the first term I actually supported my President and gave him the benefit of the doubt his first three years in office.

your contempt for any viewpoint other than yours is showing.


Not really. I've never defended Obama on this incident on this forum. But the amount of attention I've paid to it is the same amount of attention I would have paid to it if it was McCain in the first 100 days or Bush in the first 100 days regrading this incident. That's just me, though.

My remark was to the comment "expect many more ongoing Obama blunders, bowing to the king and many others, jeesh..." A sarcastic remark to a sarcastic statement.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri May 01, 2009 11:24 am

fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!


You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.



you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.


Facilities? Who the hell is talking about facilities? I was referring to the number of trips Bush took. Facilities? What the fuck are you talking about with facilities? You mean a landing strip in Texas or Maine? That's all they need. An open field and a landing strip for a Heavy. You are so far behind what anyone here is talking about it's pure comedy.

As per Pelosi. No one gets elected to the Speaker of the House. The controlling party elects amongst itself, the SOTH. Jesus Christ, at least educate yourself in Civics and government before you try to argue. As for the plane, she can use it any damned time she wants. it's not her fault she comes from San Francisco and is 3,000 miles away from her workplace.

dean,
first off- fuck you. you stupid piece of shit drunk fucktart. this is why you are no longer my friend. no respect for me at all. seriously, some people on this message board have a real self-esteem problem, always have to be right even when you don't have a clue. instead of ripping me apart, why can't you just respond? you guys can't even think rationally and discuss things without calling everybody names. i'm done with being nice to YOU. from now on you are 'fucktartdeano' to me.

secondly, what i mean by facilities is both places have an office for the president to work. you think bush went to texas and was disconnected from the entire country? his staff briefed him every single day. bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush? I though you'd be glad that bush took so many days off. means he wasn't there to mess anything up.

third, about pelosi- that's exactly what i said. did you read it or are you so quick to call me stupid that you can't even give me the benefit of a quick read? my point is nobody in this administration gives a rats ass about cutting spending. and don't come back at me about "bush did this" or "bush did that". obama ran on a ticket of change. where's the change? it's nothing but the same. tax and spend, tax and spend. obama has quadrupled the national debt. it took bush 3 years to double it, with a dem senate. (i'll save you time and respond for you "obama wouldn't have to spend so much if bush hadn't fucked up the economy") bull shit.

you have no problem with pelosi using air force one as her personal jet? she schedules it to pick up her interns and drop them off in san fran, she flys into san fran for a weekend (personal) then flys back to washington. all this at a huge cost. why should the speaker of the house get the use of air force one whenever she needs it even for personal use? why can't she fly commercial like everybody else in the senate? btw, i know the jet is not called "air force one" unless the prez is on the plane. (did you know that?, of course you did).
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri May 01, 2009 11:29 am

fucktartdeano wrote:I hear ya. No excuses, but dude, go back and read history. Every president stumbles out of the gate, and well, no president has had to start with the mess he has, but I agree.

As for Obama's "numerous" trips to Chicago(not sure about Hawaii), I can bet you it won't be 77!
funny how your response to gibby is pretty civil. this is what i am talking about. no respect for me, as a friend. who cares if you don't agree with me, but friends deserve respect.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 01, 2009 12:00 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush?

Link?
I've never heard this anywhere.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Fri May 01, 2009 12:16 pm

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treetopovskaya wrote:bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush?

Link?
I've never heard this anywhere.
oops, i goofed. clinton was workaholic. took very few days off. read an article a long time ago. lyndon johnson hold the record for most % time off.
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Postby squirt1 » Fri May 01, 2009 1:45 pm

I don't think Obama knew about this photo op but he knows who did . That particular braniac should be banned ! To think that these were to be autographed is absurd. The media thinks they can cover it very little and it will go away. People know more than politicians & networks think they do. I prefer to focus how Monday Obama says one thing and the next day it is changed by either Obama or his handlers. Congress is the real joke and caused this mess. They were pressuring banks to give loans to unqualified buyers through Fannie & Freddie and forcing the banks. That is why we are at this point and it was all to buy votes . Read up on Franklin Raines and the other Clinton appointee that bailed with millions. Just like the CEO'S they should lose everything. I am 62 and have never witnessed anything of this magnitude. I am ready for a 3rd party . I have never seen so many cabinet appointees with legal issues in my life ! God help us pay for this mess. SS will NOT be there for you ! Lyndon Johnson started raiding it in the 60's to cover the Vietnam war and his Great Society give away . When China pulls their funding- IT IS OVER. Don't worry it is full of IOU'S backed by the full faith and credit of the U S gov't that is now backed by China who is very worried !
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Postby Jana » Fri May 01, 2009 1:58 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush?

Link?
I've never heard this anywhere.

"According to an August 2003 article in the Washington Post, President Bush has spent all or part of 166 days during his presidency at his Crawford, Texas, ranch or en route. Add the time spent at or en route to the presidential retreat of Camp David and at the Bush family estate in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. Although to be fair, much of this time is classified as a "working vacation."

Bush isn't the first president to get away from his work. George Bush Sr. took all or part of 543 vacation days at Camp David and in Kennebunkport. Ronald Reagan spent 335 days at or en route to his Santa Barbara, California, ranch during his eight years in office. Of recent presidents, Jimmy Carter took the least days off -- only 79 days, which he usually spent at his home in Georgia. That's less than three weeks a year, which is closer to the average American's paid time off of 13 days per year.

What about Clinton? As of December 1999, President Bill Clinton had spent only 152 days on holiday during his two terms, according to CBS News. A former staffer noted Clinton was such a workaholic that "it almost killed Clinton to take one-week vacations during August." In 2000, Clinton cut his summer vacation short to just three days, so he and his wife could concentrate on her Senate race and fundraising for Democrats. While we couldn't find the exact tally for Clinton's last year in office, it's reasonable to expect he didn't increase his vacation rate. And in barely three years in office, George W. Bush has already taken more vacation than Clinton did in seven years. "
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri May 01, 2009 2:19 pm

squirt1 wrote:Congress is the real joke and caused this mess. They were pressuring banks to give loans to unqualified buyers through Fannie & Freddie and forcing the banks.


Not quite.
Freddie and Fannie were playing catch up with the private sector in terms of subprime mortgages.
Greenspan and other conservative economists have said Freddie and Fannie were not the root cause.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/12/ ... he-sequel/
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/12/ ... tment-act/
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat May 02, 2009 1:19 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!


You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.



you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.


Facilities? Who the hell is talking about facilities? I was referring to the number of trips Bush took. Facilities? What the fuck are you talking about with facilities? You mean a landing strip in Texas or Maine? That's all they need. An open field and a landing strip for a Heavy. You are so far behind what anyone here is talking about it's pure comedy.

As per Pelosi. No one gets elected to the Speaker of the House. The controlling party elects amongst itself, the SOTH. Jesus Christ, at least educate yourself in Civics and government before you try to argue. As for the plane, she can use it any damned time she wants. it's not her fault she comes from San Francisco and is 3,000 miles away from her workplace.

dean,
first off- fuck you. you stupid piece of shit drunk fucktart. this is why you are no longer my friend. no respect for me at all. seriously, some people on this message board have a real self-esteem problem, always have to be right even when you don't have a clue. instead of ripping me apart, why can't you just respond? you guys can't even think rationally and discuss things without calling everybody names. i'm done with being nice to YOU. from now on you are 'fucktartdeano' to me.

secondly, what i mean by facilities is both places have an office for the president to work. you think bush went to texas and was disconnected from the entire country? his staff briefed him every single day. bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush? I though you'd be glad that bush took so many days off. means he wasn't there to mess anything up.

third, about pelosi- that's exactly what i said. did you read it or are you so quick to call me stupid that you can't even give me the benefit of a quick read? my point is nobody in this administration gives a rats ass about cutting spending. and don't come back at me about "bush did this" or "bush did that". obama ran on a ticket of change. where's the change? it's nothing but the same. tax and spend, tax and spend. obama has quadrupled the national debt. it took bush 3 years to double it, with a dem senate. (i'll save you time and respond for you "obama wouldn't have to spend so much if bush hadn't fucked up the economy") bull shit.

you have no problem with pelosi using air force one as her personal jet? she schedules it to pick up her interns and drop them off in san fran, she flys into san fran for a weekend (personal) then flys back to washington. all this at a huge cost. why should the speaker of the house get the use of air force one whenever she needs it even for personal use? why can't she fly commercial like everybody else in the senate? btw, i know the jet is not called "air force one" unless the prez is on the plane. (did you know that?, of course you did).


LOL, I read and re read my quotes, and I never called you a name. You on the other hand called me stupid, piece of shit and drunk. I am neither A) stupid, or B) drunk, as I gave that shit up. I might be a piece of shit, but that's ok.

I would like to know how I was in any way disrespectful to you? No name calling, and no belittling.

Like I care to be friends with someone is so closed minded that a political thread/argument would even scratch the surface of ruining or harming a true friendship? You proved how shallow you really are. It's a fucking argument, but hey, don't want to be my friend, that's ok too. You are just pissed because your party got it's collective asses kicked and continues to embarrass itself daily, whether it be a deflection(Spector) or an old woman opening her piehole talking about what a hoax it was that a gay man was raped and killed and had a law named after him, when "he was really a burglar to a crime."- all the while when the deceased young man's mother sat in the Chamber. My God, what's next? I am of the opinion that anyone who associates with the fucking GOP is a delusional droid, following the marching orders of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill-O.

By the way, The Speaker is rightfully entitled to her own plane. Get over it.

I thought you wanted your acct deleted?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat May 02, 2009 4:10 am

fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!


You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.



you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.


Facilities? Who the hell is talking about facilities? I was referring to the number of trips Bush took. Facilities? What the fuck are you talking about with facilities? You mean a landing strip in Texas or Maine? That's all they need. An open field and a landing strip for a Heavy. You are so far behind what anyone here is talking about it's pure comedy.

As per Pelosi. No one gets elected to the Speaker of the House. The controlling party elects amongst itself, the SOTH. Jesus Christ, at least educate yourself in Civics and government before you try to argue. As for the plane, she can use it any damned time she wants. it's not her fault she comes from San Francisco and is 3,000 miles away from her workplace.

dean,
first off- fuck you. you stupid piece of shit drunk fucktart. this is why you are no longer my friend. no respect for me at all. seriously, some people on this message board have a real self-esteem problem, always have to be right even when you don't have a clue. instead of ripping me apart, why can't you just respond? you guys can't even think rationally and discuss things without calling everybody names. i'm done with being nice to YOU. from now on you are 'fucktartdeano' to me.

secondly, what i mean by facilities is both places have an office for the president to work. you think bush went to texas and was disconnected from the entire country? his staff briefed him every single day. bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush? I though you'd be glad that bush took so many days off. means he wasn't there to mess anything up.

third, about pelosi- that's exactly what i said. did you read it or are you so quick to call me stupid that you can't even give me the benefit of a quick read? my point is nobody in this administration gives a rats ass about cutting spending. and don't come back at me about "bush did this" or "bush did that". obama ran on a ticket of change. where's the change? it's nothing but the same. tax and spend, tax and spend. obama has quadrupled the national debt. it took bush 3 years to double it, with a dem senate. (i'll save you time and respond for you "obama wouldn't have to spend so much if bush hadn't fucked up the economy") bull shit.

you have no problem with pelosi using air force one as her personal jet? she schedules it to pick up her interns and drop them off in san fran, she flys into san fran for a weekend (personal) then flys back to washington. all this at a huge cost. why should the speaker of the house get the use of air force one whenever she needs it even for personal use? why can't she fly commercial like everybody else in the senate? btw, i know the jet is not called "air force one" unless the prez is on the plane. (did you know that?, of course you did).


LOL, I read and re read my quotes, and I never called you a name. You on the other hand called me stupid, piece of shit and drunk. I am neither A) stupid, or B) drunk, as I gave that shit up. I might be a piece of shit, but that's ok.
don't forget "fucktart". btw, glad to hear you gave up drinking. you were a nice person when you gave it up last time, maybe that dean will return again.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat May 02, 2009 4:15 am

Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat May 02, 2009 5:03 am

Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat May 02, 2009 5:08 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:


No thanks Captain. I will likely get a medium glass of Pomegranate and blueberry juice and watch the 700 Club.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat May 02, 2009 5:17 am

Rockindeano wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:


No thanks Captain. I will likely get a medium glass of Pomegranate and blueberry juice and watch the 700 Club.


:roll: Come on man! Where's the beer-slayin' Deano I know? What's next, cranberry juice and bingo night? :shock: :lol: BTW...Almost sent you a picture a while ago... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blueskies » Sat May 02, 2009 5:20 am

Rockindeano wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:


No thanks Captain. I will likely get a medium glass of Pomegranate and blueberry juice and watch the 700 Club.

Juice..good idea...but skip the 700 Club and read some Emerson or Thoreau..maybe some Socrates, Pascal, Paine, Pierce, Nietzsche, Husserl, or Foucault...heck, even just some Mitch Albom reads would be better for ya. :D :wink:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat May 02, 2009 5:24 am

Blueskies wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:


No thanks Captain. I will likely get a medium glass of Pomegranate and blueberry juice and watch the 700 Club.

Juice..good idea...but skip the 700 Club and read some Emerson or Thoreau..maybe some Socrates, Pascal, Paine, Pierce, Nietzsche, Husserl, or Foucault...heck, even just some Mitch Albom reads would be better for ya. :D :wink:


Fuck that! Just down about 12 Bud-light's and call it a night. :D
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat May 02, 2009 5:32 am

Oh who are we kidding? I LOVE to down 18 packs like they're going out of style. The 700 Club can suck my ass.

I am addicted to Home Improvement all day long. Get a boner watching Deb Dunning(Heidi). Tim cracks me up.
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Postby Blueskies » Sat May 02, 2009 5:36 am

Rockindeano wrote:Oh who are we kidding? I LOVE to down 18 packs like they're going out of style. The 700 Club can suck my filthy asshole.

I am addicted to Home Improvement all day long. Get a boner watching Deb Dunning(Heidi). Tim cracks me up.

There you are!
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat May 02, 2009 5:38 am

Rockindeano wrote:Oh who are we kidding? I LOVE to down 18 packs like they're going out of style. The 700 Club can suck my filthy asshole.

I am addicted to Home Improvement all day long. Get a boner watching Deb Dunning(Heidi). Tim cracks me up.


And here I thought you liked listening to some "Piano With A View", while sitting by a nice cozy fireplace sipping some Merlot? Maybe wearing those comfy bedroom slippers, and a nice sweater (Like Carlton used to wear on Fresh Prince). :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blueskies » Sat May 02, 2009 5:39 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kiss my ass Wendy.

Go back and reads what YOU accused me of, and look who did exactly what she accused me of.

You crossed that line.


Fuck off and go get a damn beer out of the fridge you pickle-kisser! Oh yeah...and Obama was an inconsiderate ass muncher too! :wink:


No thanks Captain. I will likely get a medium glass of Pomegranate and blueberry juice and watch the 700 Club.

Juice..good idea...but skip the 700 Club and read some Emerson or Thoreau..maybe some Socrates, Pascal, Paine, Pierce, Nietzsche, Husserl, or Foucault...heck, even just some Mitch Albom reads would be better for ya. :D :wink:


Fuck that! Just down about 12 Bud-light's and call it a night. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat May 02, 2009 5:45 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Oh who are we kidding? I LOVE to down 18 packs like they're going out of style. The 700 Club can suck my filthy asshole.

I am addicted to Home Improvement all day long. Get a boner watching Deb Dunning(Heidi). Tim cracks me up.


And here I thought you liked listening to some "Piano With A View", while sitting by a nice cozy fireplace sipping some Merlot? Maybe wearing those comfy bedroom slippers, and a nice sweater (Like Carlton used to wear on Fresh Prince). :lol: :lol:


I hate Cain and his music, slippers are for fags, Merlot is awesome when you chug it out of a team 48 tumbler, and I don't own a sweater.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat May 02, 2009 5:48 am

Rockindeano wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Oh who are we kidding? I LOVE to down 18 packs like they're going out of style. The 700 Club can suck my filthy asshole.

I am addicted to Home Improvement all day long. Get a boner watching Deb Dunning(Heidi). Tim cracks me up.


And here I thought you liked listening to some "Piano With A View", while sitting by a nice cozy fireplace sipping some Merlot? Maybe wearing those comfy bedroom slippers, and a nice sweater (Like Carlton used to wear on Fresh Prince). :lol: :lol:


I hate Cain and his music, slippers are for fags, Merlot is awesome when you chug it out of a team 48 tumbler, and I don't own a sweater.


:lol: :lol: :lol: B...........................................5 BINGO!!! Old fucker! :lol: :lol: :wink: I'm getting ready to head downtown to a bar right now. It's beer-thirty. :D
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat May 02, 2009 10:11 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:
fucktartdeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!


You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.



you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.


Facilities? Who the hell is talking about facilities? I was referring to the number of trips Bush took. Facilities? What the fuck are you talking about with facilities? You mean a landing strip in Texas or Maine? That's all they need. An open field and a landing strip for a Heavy. You are so far behind what anyone here is talking about it's pure comedy.

As per Pelosi. No one gets elected to the Speaker of the House. The controlling party elects amongst itself, the SOTH. Jesus Christ, at least educate yourself in Civics and government before you try to argue. As for the plane, she can use it any damned time she wants. it's not her fault she comes from San Francisco and is 3,000 miles away from her workplace.

dean,
first off- fuck you. you stupid piece of shit drunk fucktart. this is why you are no longer my friend. no respect for me at all. seriously, some people on this message board have a real self-esteem problem, always have to be right even when you don't have a clue. instead of ripping me apart, why can't you just respond? you guys can't even think rationally and discuss things without calling everybody names. i'm done with being nice to YOU. from now on you are 'fucktartdeano' to me.

secondly, what i mean by facilities is both places have an office for the president to work. you think bush went to texas and was disconnected from the entire country? his staff briefed him every single day. bill clinton took just as many days off as bush. did ya look that one up first before you spewed that diarrhea about bush? I though you'd be glad that bush took so many days off. means he wasn't there to mess anything up.

third, about pelosi- that's exactly what i said. did you read it or are you so quick to call me stupid that you can't even give me the benefit of a quick read? my point is nobody in this administration gives a rats ass about cutting spending. and don't come back at me about "bush did this" or "bush did that". obama ran on a ticket of change. where's the change? it's nothing but the same. tax and spend, tax and spend. obama has quadrupled the national debt. it took bush 3 years to double it, with a dem senate. (i'll save you time and respond for you "obama wouldn't have to spend so much if bush hadn't fucked up the economy") bull shit.

you have no problem with pelosi using air force one as her personal jet? she schedules it to pick up her interns and drop them off in san fran, she flys into san fran for a weekend (personal) then flys back to washington. all this at a huge cost. why should the speaker of the house get the use of air force one whenever she needs it even for personal use? why can't she fly commercial like everybody else in the senate? btw, i know the jet is not called "air force one" unless the prez is on the plane. (did you know that?, of course you did).


LOL, I read and re read my quotes, and I never called you a name. You on the other hand called me stupid, piece of shit and drunk. I am neither A) stupid, or B) drunk, as I gave that shit up. I might be a piece of shit, but that's ok.

I would like to know how I was in any way disrespectful to you? No name calling, and no belittling.

Like I care to be friends with someone is so closed minded that a political thread/argument would even scratch the surface of ruining or harming a true friendship? You proved how shallow you really are. It's a fucking argument, but hey, don't want to be my friend, that's ok too. You are just pissed because your party got it's collective asses kicked and continues to embarrass itself daily, whether it be a deflection(Spector) or an old woman opening her piehole talking about what a hoax it was that a gay man was raped and killed and had a law named after him, when "he was really a burglar to a crime."- all the while when the deceased young man's mother sat in the Chamber. My God, what's next? I am of the opinion that anyone who associates with the fucking GOP is a delusional droid, following the marching orders of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill-O.

By the way, The Speaker is rightfully entitled to her own plane. Get over it.

I thought you wanted your acct deleted?


"i thought you wanted your acct deleted"

just takin after you fucktartdeano.

hey... i am not upset over politics... i have told you this already. this has nothing to do with politics. maybe i should pm you & explain again & better.

"you are about as bright as a dark night"

is that not calling me stupid & belittling me?
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