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bretto212 wrote:Hey there,
This is Brett Garsed replying to this thread. I'm not sure if anyone knows who I am but I've worked with quite a few people over the years as a guitarist. (John Farnham, Nelson, Paul Stanley). I've known Joel Hoekstra for about 15 years now and whenever people ask me who I think the great "unknowns" are out there I mention his name every time. Joel's one of the few players that has most traditional styles down but also has absolute command of modern two hand tapping technique (ala TJ Helmerich) so if you haven't seen/heard him play you are really missing out on something. He is absolutely worthy to stand alongside all the great players you are currently fans of so check him out and I'm sure you'll be ready to add another one to your list.
Cheers,
Brett.
RockInDetroit wrote:Saw them this week. Let me preface this by saying to most people it will not matter as even the guy in front of me was asking if the original drummer was playing. LOL. I consider myself a diehard fan. So I am a little more critical as I have seen Night Ranger so many times I can not count the times.
Honestly I had a hard time looking at Joel and Christian. While I am happy for them that they are playing in Night Ranger...both looked like kids in a candy store. I focused my eyes most of the time on the right hand stage of the show. Maybe it is the because the originals are all on one side of the stage and the subs on the left There was not the chemistry between Brad and Joel that was there with Brad and Jeff. The trading of riffs wasn't the same. It was understandable as Brad and Jeff played together for 20+years. I admire Joel (and Christian) as they did not suck. The concert was still very good....but to me there seemed to be a big hole on the stage. Again I stress Night Ranger was still very good....so if you get the chance to see them still do.
Sometimes I hear people say (on rockline July 9th) Night Ranger is Jack, Brad and Kelly. It kinda bothers me as NO...Night Ranger is Jack, Brad, Kelly, Jeff and Fitz. When you lose one something will not be the same. I really don't know the problems that happened in the band. Probably a good reason why Jeff (and Fitz) are not in the band....it is just a shame these things happen. But to come on Rockline and say Night Ranger is Jack, Brad and Kelly is an insult. I was bothered when I heard that and it almost seemed like a plant because no way a true Night Ranger fan would say that.
I debated whether to even post this because I enjoyed the concert. The guys when on stage give it 110%. They are entertainers. Great music and great effort out there on stage. Great sounding also. Just saying from a diehard point of view it is NOT the same...still great but not the same.
Setlist (order may not be correct but close). Night Ranger was forced to play a shorter set as it was a festival show. The Tubes and some local bands opened up. After watching NR and the Tubes you see how great NR is in concert as they blew the Tubes out. NR skipped the accoustic set as they had little over an hour to play. I missed Goodbye but other than that great set. They included all the other essentials. I liked the inclusion of Coming of Age over High Enough. And the set did not have Touch of Madness first time ever for me...but I am glad they played This Boy Need to Rock and Eddie instead.
This Boy Needs Rock
Sing Me Away
Coming of Age
You’re Gonna Hear From Me
Secret of My Success
Sentimental Street
Rumours in the Air
Eddie's Comin Out Tonight
Four In the Morning
When You Close Your Eyes
Don’t Tell Me You Love Me
Sister Christian
Rock In America
sniper16 wrote:no one can really replace jeff, and your right the chemestry that created the band was all five members,
but i thought joel fit much better than reb beech did last year, and i always miss fitz , but sans those guys coming back this still might be the best band to see from that era(great white, tesla being the others) out there
Andrew wrote:bretto212 wrote:Hey there,
This is Brett Garsed replying to this thread. I'm not sure if anyone knows who I am but I've worked with quite a few people over the years as a guitarist. (John Farnham, Nelson, Paul Stanley). I've known Joel Hoekstra for about 15 years now and whenever people ask me who I think the great "unknowns" are out there I mention his name every time. Joel's one of the few players that has most traditional styles down but also has absolute command of modern two hand tapping technique (ala TJ Helmerich) so if you haven't seen/heard him play you are really missing out on something. He is absolutely worthy to stand alongside all the great players you are currently fans of so check him out and I'm sure you'll be ready to add another one to your list.
Cheers,
Brett.
Brett! Lovely to see you posting here - been a while since we e-mailed. Anything in the pipeline mate? I just spent a while with the Nelson Brothers at MelodicRockFest, they both said to say howdy.
bretto212 wrote:Hey there,
This is Brett Garsed replying to this thread. I'm not sure if anyone knows who I am but I've worked with quite a few people over the years as a guitarist. (John Farnham, Nelson, Paul Stanley). I've known Joel Hoekstra for about 15 years now and whenever people ask me who I think the great "unknowns" are out there I mention his name every time. Joel's one of the few players that has most traditional styles down but also has absolute command of modern two hand tapping technique (ala TJ Helmerich) so if you haven't seen/heard him play you are really missing out on something. He is absolutely worthy to stand alongside all the great players you are currently fans of so check him out and I'm sure you'll be ready to add another one to your list.
Cheers,
Brett.
Michigan Girl wrote:bretto212 wrote:Hey there,
This is Brett Garsed replying to this thread. I'm not sure if anyone knows who I am but I've worked with quite a few people over the years as a guitarist. (John Farnham, Nelson, Paul Stanley). I've known Joel Hoekstra for about 15 years now and whenever people ask me who I think the great "unknowns" are out there I mention his name every time. Joel's one of the few players that has most traditional styles down but also has absolute command of modern two hand tapping technique (ala TJ Helmerich) so if you haven't seen/heard him play you are really missing out on something. He is absolutely worthy to stand alongside all the great players you are currently fans of so check him out and I'm sure you'll be ready to add another one to your list.
Cheers,
Brett.
Thanks, Brett....Joel is AWESOME!!! He does NR proud!!!
RumTumJM wrote:I had the pleasure of interviewing Joel for my college radio show (after seeing him in Rock Of Ages) in April.
He made it very clear (in a rather humble way) that one of his primary concerns is that he plays all of the songs as people want to hear them. He agreed that there was a certain, unique chemistry between Brad & Jeff. But he did say how him and Brad have REALLY hit it off, to the extent that they would even hang out together and stuff like that. This leads me to believe that, while it may be different, there is a new, genuine chemistry between Joel & Brad. He made it like it was a father/son or master/student relationship of sorts. (Know too, he genuinely said that when he first heard that Jeff left the band, he, just like everyone else, thought, "How can you have Night Ranger without Brad & Jeff?")
While I have not seen him live with them yet, I have seen him in Rock Of Ages and MANY Youtube videos. He seems like he is totally up to this challenge. Plus, told me that he can pull off the tapping techniques that Jeff did, because he teacher years ago was all about teaching him that kind of playing. Therefore, in many ways, he has been playing Jeff Watson-esque for years!
Sounds like a good replacement choice to me. However, I will give a definitive opinion after I see them in NYC on Monday.
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