Is Steve Augeri tone deaf?

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Postby steveo777 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:36 am

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Gunbot wrote:One guy is a quitter, the other guys are theoretically thieves. They all have shown the ability to be assholes. Even if one anus is bigger than the others, you get the same shit flowing out regardless.

As long as as I still have the ability to maintain a working copy of of any album Journey did prior to 1984, I'm happy.


What does this mean........guilt by potential? Everybody has stolen a hotel towel or bathrobe in their lives. I don't see them running around stealing other artist's work.


No. When you perform a substantial number of shows billed as live and you don't provide live vocals, you are defrauding your fans. I don't care if the instruments were live, Journey is known for the soaring vocals and not providing a live performance of that is stealing. They are not Britney Spears, out there doing dance routines and theater. The only thing you are paying for when you see them in a performance is alive show. The BGV are already canned. When you do that with the lead vocals, what is the audience actually paying for at that point? It's all water under the bridge now for some but if Perry is still the Devil for teasing the fans then the band is equally culpable for cheating them.


Thanks for clearing up what you meant. Not saying it's right what they did, but I'm sure they were faced with the difficult choice of whether to cancel the shows they had already sold or try and entertain the fans as best they could. If they had cancelled there would have been no redo with Augeri. It was a bad judgement call on the band's part. You would have had more pissed off people if the shows got cancelled and I doubt that most of the casual fans have any idea what went down.
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Postby Don » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:41 am

steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:One guy is a quitter, the other guys are theoretically thieves. They all have shown the ability to be assholes. Even if one anus is bigger than the others, you get the same shit flowing out regardless.

As long as as I still have the ability to maintain a working copy of of any album Journey did prior to 1984, I'm happy.


What does this mean........guilt by potential? Everybody has stolen a hotel towel or bathrobe in their lives. I don't see them running around stealing other artist's work.


No. When you perform a substantial number of shows billed as live and you don't provide live vocals, you are defrauding your fans. I don't care if the instruments were live, Journey is known for the soaring vocals and not providing a live performance of that is stealing. They are not Britney Spears, out there doing dance routines and theater. The only thing you are paying for when you see them in a performance is alive show. The BGV are already canned. When you do that with the lead vocals, what is the audience actually paying for at that point? It's all water under the bridge now for some but if Perry is still the Devil for teasing the fans then the band is equally culpable for cheating them.


Thanks for clearing up what you meant. Not saying it's right what they did, but I'm sure they were faced with the difficult choice of whether to cancel the shows they had already sold or try and entertain the fans as best they could. If they had cancelled there would have been no redo with Augeri. It was a bad judgement call on the band's part. You would have had more pissed off people if the shows got cancelled and I doubt that most of the casual fans have any idea what went down.


If It really went on for more than on tour, then there just can't be any excuse at all. Most casual fans don't know. I didn't believe it until the evidence became so damning that to scuff at it would be pure ignorance. Rolling Stone and some of Journey's musical peers know and that is probably more embarrassing then what a fan thinks on a message board a reckon. I really think it was limited to a few shows but like any good fish story, without confirmation or denial the fish just kept on growing.
As I said water under the bridge but since Perry was getting zinged, I figured i would round out the discussion a bit. There is plenty of fodder for everyone when it comes to Journey.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:08 am

Oh boy does this thread make me want to re-engage. Too much.
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Postby Don » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:11 am

Rockindeano wrote:Oh boy does this thread make me want to re-engage. Too much.


Please do, I'm running out of shit to post. A little blood in the water can't hurt
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:29 am

Rockindeano wrote:Oh boy does this thread make me want to re-engage. Too much.


Why are you exercizing such restraint? It's not like you at all.
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Postby portland » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:45 am

Rockindeano wrote:Oh boy does this thread make me want to re-engage. Too much.





Hey Welcome back!!!!! :P
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Postby donnaplease » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 pm

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Rockindeano wrote:Oh boy does this thread make me want to re-engage. Too much.


Please do, I'm running out of shit to post. A little blood in the water can't hurt


Yeah, as one might say... LockNLoad, Deano!!! :twisted:
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