President Barack Obama - Term Two Thread

[Fact Finder]

Why hasn't the media (and the rest of the libs) been crucifying Obama on the price of gas like they did GW?

That's simple, he's their guy.

The media in this country sucks donkey balls.

[Fact Finder]

Marking the similarities between President Barack Obama's time in office and former president Jimmy Carter's is nothing new. But as of Monday, Obama has hit one more Carter benchmark - both saw gas prices double in their first term of office. [See Where Gas Prices are Spiking the Most]

In fact, while just barely, Obama has seen an even higher gas price increase than Carter dealt with under his administration.

Under the Carter administration, gas prices increased by 103.77 percent. Gas prices since Obama took office have risen by 103.79 percent. No other presidents in recent years have struggled as much with soaring oil prices. Under the Reagan administration, gas prices actually dropped 66 percent. When Bill Clinton was president, gas prices grew by roughly 30 percent, and under both Bush presidencies, gas prices rose by 20 percent.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Marking the similarities between President Barack Obama's time in office and former president Jimmy Carter's is nothing new. But as of Monday, Obama has hit one more Carter benchmark - both saw gas prices double in their first term of office. [See Where Gas Prices are Spiking the Most]

In fact, while just barely, Obama has seen an even higher gas price increase than Carter dealt with under his administration.

Under the Carter administration, gas prices increased by 103.77 percent. Gas prices since Obama took office have risen by 103.79 percent. No other presidents in recent years have struggled as much with soaring oil prices. Under the Reagan administration, gas prices actually dropped 66 percent. When Bill Clinton was president, gas prices grew by roughly 30 percent, and under both Bush presidencies, gas prices rose by 20 percent.

You will see the strategic reserve released around August 1st (or before) which will knock gas prices down very nicely for the election and Obama will run on a platform of "hes fighting big oil and gas prices Stay they course". Watch out for the second term though- when gas prices hit the eight dollars a gallon that he said it ought to be at.

[Monker]

Marking the similarities between President Barack Obama's time in office and former president Jimmy Carter's is nothing new. But as of Monday, Obama has hit one more Carter benchmark - both saw gas prices double in their first term of office. [See Where Gas Prices are Spiking the Most]

In fact, while just barely, Obama has seen an even higher gas price increase than Carter dealt with under his administration.

Under the Carter administration, gas prices increased by 103.77 percent. Gas prices since Obama took office have risen by 103.79 percent. No other presidents in recent years have struggled as much with soaring oil prices. Under the Reagan administration, gas prices actually dropped 66 percent. When Bill Clinton was president, gas prices grew by roughly 30 percent, and under both Bush presidencies, gas prices rose by 20 percent.

You will see the strategic reserve released around August 1st (or before) which will knock gas prices down very nicely for the election and Obama will run on a platform of "hes fighting big oil and gas prices Stay they course". Watch out for the second term though- when gas prices hit the eight dollars a gallon that he said it ought to be at.

Incredible that people actually believe this stuff.

None of the above will happen.

The exact same type of fiction was written about W...and there was more of a demand to release the reserves.

[Monker]

Why hasn't the media (and the rest of the libs) been crucifying Obama on the price of gas like they did GW?

That's simple, he's their guy.

The media in this country sucks donkey balls.

Oh, please, W went to war in Iraq for senseless 'reasons' and rising gas prices was one result. He deserved the critique. The fact is that supporters of the war were bragging how gas price would go DOWN as Iraq became friendly to the US. Funny how we expect democracy in the Muslim world to elect US friendly politicians...and how some try to rewrite history to blame others.

[Memorex]

Why hasn't the media (and the rest of the libs) been crucifying Obama on the price of gas like they did GW?

That's simple, he's their guy.

The media in this country sucks donkey balls.

Oh, please, W went to war in Iraq for senseless 'reasons' and rising gas prices was one result. He deserved the critique. The fact is that supporters of the war were bragging how gas price would go DOWN as Iraq became friendly to the US. Funny how we expect democracy in the Muslim world to elect US friendly politicians...and how some try to rewrite history to blame others.

I'm not a fan of the war, but this stupid BS about it being about oil is about as lame as it gets. There was ZERO issue with oil in the first place. It's not like Iraq wasn't selling their lame little portion to us - there was no threat of us not getting oil. And there have been no transactions to point that anything changed as a result of any of those wars. Just a really, really uninformed talking point.

We went to war to beat the crap out of someone to calm the country down after we got a black eye. I'd be more inclined to believe our warheads were aging and they needed replacing, so we had to drop them somewhere.

[Memorex]

There is a very long list of things Obama is doing and no responsible for that Bush did or started. There is a startling silence on this stuff.

People were angry at Bush because they thought he stole the election. He became an evil person to many. As I have said before, you can make a long list of things people hated Bush over and most are still going on today. It's just the reality of a presidency. Everyone thinks their guy is going to go their way and they forget half the country disagrees.

If Romney wins, the deficit will rise, next summer will see high gas prices, Afghanistan will still be a losing proposition, health care will still cost too much, there will still be a big ol tax fight, and we will still be on alert from many bad people trying to kill us. And half the country will defend him for the same things they crucified Obama over and the other half will be angry again. Welcome to the USA.

[Monker]

Oh, please, W went to war in Iraq for senseless 'reasons' and rising gas prices was one result. He deserved the critique. The fact is that supporters of the war were bragging how gas price would go DOWN as Iraq became friendly to the US. Funny how we expect democracy in the Muslim world to elect US friendly politicians...and how some try to rewrite history to blame others.

I'm not a fan of the war, but this stupid BS about it being about oil is about as lame as it gets. There was ZERO issue with oil in the first place. It's not like Iraq wasn't selling their lame little portion to us - there was no threat of us not getting oil. And there have been no transactions to point that anything changed as a result of any of those wars. Just a really, really uninformed talking point.
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Reread what I said. I did not say anything about going to Iraq for oil or Iraq not selling their oil. I said rising gas prices was one result of the war...and it was. I specifically remember the debate about releasing the reserves...which is ridiculous because they exist for a MILITARY emergency...not a political/economic tool. Anyway, if you go look back at that time, gas prices DID rise...the very fact that we went to war in Iraq did that...the specifics are debatable.

We went to war to beat the crap out of someone to calm the country down after we got a black eye.

Correct...and then we turned our back on the proper decision in Afghanistan and started making up excuses to go into Iraq.

I'd be more inclined to believe our warheads were aging and they needed replacing, so we had to drop them somewhere.

It was all wishful thinking. If Sadam had more WMD, he would have used more against Iran. Saying we were his target was propaganda. He was not loved by Muslims...he tortured, gassed, killed Muslims in his own country...and went to war with them in Iran. Saddam was a secular leader and hated by Muslims. Giving WMD to a terrorist would be like Hitler giving an atomic bomb to Jews hoping they would use it against the US...especially since neither Hitler nor Saddam had such weapons.

[Memorex]

In any case, I'm glad the dude's gone and I think we should remove anyone that cannot play nice. I'm tired of seeing their mugs on the news. Takes away time for fun.

[Fact Finder]

U.S. Tax Code now 4 times as long as Shakespeare's complete works...

[Fact Finder]

While the SS Agents are boffing Columbian Prostitutes, our illustrious Secretary of State represents the USA in a more proper way....

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

While the SS Agents are boffing Columbian Prostitutes, our illustrious Secretary of State represents the USA in a more proper way....

hey lets not criticize drinking beer. Hell, lets not criticized getting laid either ,even if those3 Secret serice guys had to pay 47 dollars for it!

[Memorex]

I have no issue with Hilary having a great time wherever she is. You can't have all your public life years be business. As for the secret service issue, it's a simple case of fire them and move on. That some are married - they are going to catch enough crap as punishment. If the investigation shows that their actions in any way put the president or his staff at risk, then they need to be charged. The worst part of the story, I think, is the heavy drinking. I don't make very good decisions when I drink, but I don't have to secure a location for the President.

In any case, you have to wonder if the culture in the secret service is like this and we are only hearing about it now. As for the marines involved, I always assumed marines partied hard, as they should (except when on duty).

I did find it funny that the White House said they don't like to comment on ongoing investigations. Looking at all that this administration has weighed in on for the last three years - a lot of it petty - I found that remark laughable.

[Memorex]

I kinda figured this is how we would now "not" torture people.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/04/yonas-fikre-american-proxy-detention-tortured-uae

Number 637 on the list of things ok for one administration and not the other.

[hoagiepete]

I have no issue with Hilary having a great time wherever she is. You can't have all your public life years be business. As for the secret service issue, it's a simple case of fire them and move on. That some are married - they are going to catch enough crap as punishment. If the investigation shows that their actions in any way put the president or his staff at risk, then they need to be charged. The worst part of the story, I think, is the heavy drinking. I don't make very good decisions when I drink, but I don't have to secure a location for the President.

In any case, you have to wonder if the culture in the secret service is like this and we are only hearing about it now. As for the marines involved, I always assumed marines partied hard, as they should (except when on duty).

I did find it funny that the White House said they don't like to comment on ongoing investigations. Looking at all that this administration has weighed in on for the last three years - a lot of it petty - I found that remark laughable.

+1 Trivial shit. This is what hoses any argument. Kind of like the R's going after Clinton for having his cigar sucked on.

Great point on the comments on ongoing investigations. Obama doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut and sure looks unpresidential when he doesn't. Kind of like his continued campaign style of speaking...since he's been president.

[conversationpc]

If the investigation shows that their actions in any way put the president or his staff at risk, then they need to be charged. The worst part of the story, I think, is the heavy drinking. I don't make very good decisions when I drink, but I don't have to secure a location for the President.

If they were involved in soliciting prostitutes, it's DEFINITELY a security issue. That puts them at all kinds of risk of at the very least being bribed, if not compromised in some other way that could actually put the President in physical jeopardy.

[slucero]

If the investigation shows that their actions in any way put the president or his staff at risk, then they need to be charged. The worst part of the story, I think, is the heavy drinking. I don't make very good decisions when I drink, but I don't have to secure a location for the President.

If they were involved in soliciting prostitutes, it's DEFINITELY a security issue. That puts them at all kinds of risk of at the very least being bribed, if not compromised in some other way that could actually put the President in physical jeopardy.

more proof that the US is at a moral crossroads....

[donnaplease]

Obama eats dogs. Heheheheeeeee!

[Fact Finder]

Obama eats dogs. Heheheheeeeee!

I heard him a Moochelle are having Bo over for dinner.


on another LMAO moment...

General Motors reached another Obama milestone when they announced late on a Friday afternoon that they were suspending production of the Obama-inspired Chevy Volt for five weeks due to lack of demand.

Presumably the Volt was an attempt by GM to help Obama with his pledge to put 1 million electric cars on the road in return for the tens of billions of dollars in forgivable “loans” that the company got from the Obama administration from the TARP bailout.

The hybrid gas-electric vehicle gets 25 miles on a full, overnight charge and costs around $40,000. To date, GM has sold around 10,000 vehicles. To put it in perspective, the Chevy Corvette has a sticker price of $49,600.

If the Volt’s not in the federal witness protection program, it ought to be. Feburary and March sales were zero.

Silly libs.

[RedWingFan]

Obama eats dogs. Heheheheeeeee!

I heard him a Moochelle are having Bo over for dinner.

[Rick]

[Fact Finder]

[conversationpc]

If the Volt’s not in the federal witness protection program, it ought to be. Feburary and March sales were zero.

[Monker]

If the Volt’s not in the federal witness protection program, it ought to be. Feburary and March sales were zero.

There will eventually come a point where gasoline vehicles cost more to produce and operate then electric. When that time comes, Chevy, Ford, and Chrysler had better being doing what Tesla is doing or Tesla will be the only American car in production.

Tesla does it right.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

[Rick]

If the Volt’s not in the federal witness protection program, it ought to be. Feburary and March sales were zero.

There will eventually come a point where gasoline vehicles cost more to produce and operate then electric. When that time comes, Chevy, Ford, and Chrysler had better being doing what Tesla is doing or Tesla will be the only American car in production.

Tesla does it right.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

Hey, that band make some nice looking cars.

[conversationpc]

If the Volt’s not in the federal witness protection program, it ought to be. Feburary and March sales were zero.

There will eventually come a point where gasoline vehicles cost more to produce and operate then electric. When that time comes, Chevy, Ford, and Chrysler had better being doing what Tesla is doing or Tesla will be the only American car in production.

Tesla does it right.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

Hey, that band make some nice looking cars.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. Scary.

[Fact Finder]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/ ... to-summit/

Milwaukee Red Cross Told To Prep For Chicago Evacuation During NATO Summit

April 25, 2012 9:45 PM

CHICAGO (CBS) – Is there a secret plan to evacuate some residents of Chicago in the event of major trouble during the NATO summit next month? CBS 2 has uncovered some evidence that there is. It comes from the Milwaukee area branch of the American Red Cross.

CBS 2 News has obtained a copy of a Red Cross e-mail sent to volunteers in the Milwaukee area.

It said the NATO summit “may create unrest or another national security incident. The American Red Cross in southeastern Wisconsin has been asked to place a number of shelters on standby in the event of evacuation of Chicago.”

According to a chapter spokesperson, the evacuation plan is not theirs alone.

“Our direction has come from the City of Chicago and the Secret Service,” she said.

Officials at Chicago’s Office of Emergency Management and Communication said the directive did not come from them.

The U.S. Secret Service did not return calls for comment.

Some downtown residents told CBS 2’s Mike Parker that the news has them on edge.

Brad Klein said it is “very unnerving. I feel a little bit unsafe, just a bit more than a little bit. It doesn’t make me feel like I want to be in the city during the NATO conference.”

An executive with the Service Employees International Union, who trains members in preparation for the summit, thinks such a plan might be “over the top.”

SEIU Local 1 training director Tom Dobry said, “This could be a lot like Y2K – a lot of hype and buildup. People will say, ‘that was it?’ Not a big deal.”

What the hell is this about? It's gonna take alot more than a few shelters to evacuate Chicago, and what if the people don't want to go to Milwaukee? Huh?

[Memorex]

Anytime these things come up, it's best to stay away. They are real nuts out there. The idea of limits doesn't seem to exist anymore.

[Memorex]

So - Obama on Jimmy Fallon Slow Jammin the News. I thought it was funny, but it bothers me as well. I just can't imagine any other president doing this during difficult times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAFQIciWsF4&feature=g-logo

Now, I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Part of me says let's laugh at ourselves, and part of me thinks he is so incredibly out of touch it's insulting. I think it's the combination of things. The 17 vacations, all the golf and basketball, all the huge White House parties, the expense of all of this. And outside of a few campaign style tours, I can't really think of much he has done since last September.

I can't really recall Clinton's vacations, but I know many were tucked away at private locations (maybe for private reasons), sort of off the radar. Bush had many of his vacations at his ranch and at Camp David. Obama is so out there and it's all so expensive. It's strange because he will be wealthy for the rest of his life and there will be plenty of time for all that. I say get all our men home, get everyone back to work, then go enjoy yourself. Anyway....

[donnaplease]

What do y'all think of this?