President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

I think if people were being honest with themselves, they would find very little daylight between Obama and Bush or Obama and Romney. .

There is no daylight between the two, a lot of wind generated by them both changing positions back and forth. Unfortunately there is little honesty amongst partisan cheerleaders.

[Behshad]

Whoever you vote for if you believe your man doesn't blow smoke up our skirts your just as blind as the side you hate. These guys are not chosen ones. They are men, and politicians and lawyers for the most part. Neither savory people...few are without feet of clay. So saying your man is wonderful and the other is the devil makes you gullible too. They are people with an agenda. I am sure both sides feel they have the answers. But both need to be kept in check at all times.

Exactly. I can't understand people who get overly enthusiastic about any candidate. Be realistic, people-- neither of these guys is an altruistic saint. Also, whoever wins is going to have an extremely difficult time accomplishing much since half the country will automatically be against him. The best thing that could happen, really, would be if one of these guys somehow won by a landslide. At least then the country would mostly all be on the same page. But clearly that's not going to happen.

[Liam]

Maher is a fucking tool. Always has been, always will be.

You're just mad cuz he's right.

1st of all...no he's not, and 2nd of all...I've NEVER liked the guy.

[Monker]

I think if people were being honest with themselves, they would find very little daylight between Obama and Bush or Obama and Romney. .

There is no daylight between the two, a lot of wind generated by them both changing positions back and forth. Unfortunately there is little honesty amongst partisan cheerleaders.

Sorry, but there is a difference between "changing positions" and changing your political philosophy from being a liberal governer, to a conservative candidate, and then back to a liberal....all to be able to to say the right things, push the right buttons, to get elected. And, each time denying what you were before. Romney is more then just a flip-flopper on issues...he is a flip-flopper on his entire political philosphy.

Again, you have NO CLUE how he would govern if he won. You have no idea which of Romney's multiple personalities will be in office, or if someone new would show up. Like I said, use your magical seer stone.

[brandonx76]

Maher is a fucking tool. Always has been, always will be.

You're just mad cuz he's right.

1st of all...no he's not, and 2nd of all...I've NEVER liked the guy.

He can definitely be a smug fucker, but there's wit, intelligence and consistency in his thought processes. Can't say the same for the politicians he lambastes, and I do believe he is an equal opportunist , everyone is fair game. Also the round tables can be great. Big time shut downs on bull shit from full of shit pundits. Surprised some of them have the balls to go on the show, but they do. Can't say that I think his stand up is all that because it's a regurgitation of what you hear on his show, but he definitely provides a forum that is much needed in these times.

[Monker]

Maher is a fucking tool. Always has been, always will be.

You're just mad cuz he's right.

1st of all...no he's not, and 2nd of all...I've NEVER liked the guy.

Oh, really....so is Romney the tax and spend liberal who showed up at the first debate, or is he the conservative Republican who showed up in the primary debates. Or, is he the liberal governer?

Which one of his products has he convinced you he is?

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

I think if people were being honest with themselves, they would find very little daylight between Obama and Bush or Obama and Romney. .

There is no daylight between the two, a lot of wind generated by them both changing positions back and forth. Unfortunately there is little honesty amongst partisan cheerleaders.

Sorry, but there is a difference between "changing positions" and changing your political philosophy from being a liberal governer, to a conservative candidate, and then back to a liberal....all to be able to to say the right things, push the right buttons, to get elected. And, each time denying what you were before. Romney is more then just a flip-flopper on issues...he is a flip-flopper on his entire political philosphy.

Again, you have NO CLUE how he would govern if he won. You have no idea which of Romney's multiple personalities will be in office, or if someone new would show up. Like I said, use your magical seer stone.

Romney has no political philosophy, never has had one and never will. Every time he's ever tried to express one hes sounded incoherent. Anytime he talked about general political philosophy in the primaries, he sounded so ineffective and inarticulate you could tell he really didnt believe or understand what he was saying. When someone sounds unsure of what they are saying they probably really don't really believe it.

Alls he ever had was a bunch of positions. Without any underpinning political philosophy we know exactly how he would govern: Listening to his Wilsonian/neoCon foreign policy advisers on foreign policy. Horsetrade away to get along which means little change in how we tax and spend. Keep in place Obamacare because that was his big achievement in Mass. No restraint of the Federal Reserve, here come QE 4 x . The exact same things Obama would do, only with Obama it will just be a bit more passionate intensity to move things left.

[Behshad]

An Unpredictable End to a Very Predictable Election

Election 2012 has had few surprises. So it's somewhat surprising that heading into the final weekend of the election season, we are unable to confidently project who is likely to win the White House.

All year long, the economy has been the number one issue of the campaign. That hasn't changed. While Mitt Romney has a slight advantage when it comes to handling the economy, neither candidate has really convinced voters that they know what the nation needs.

From the beginning of the year to today, the fundamentals suggested the presidential election would be close. The president's job approval, which is a good predictor of his ultimate share of the vote, has stayed in a range of 47% to 50% all year. That, by itself, virtually guarantees a close election. On the Friday before Election Day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll showed the race tied at 48% for Obama and 48% for Romney.

Pundits and the campaigns have focused on a relatively small number of swing states all year. Today, the president can reasonably count on 237 Electoral College votes, while Romney can count on 206. Two states won by Obama four years ago are in the Romney column today - Indiana and North Carolina.

Eight states, with a total of 95 Electoral College votes, remain toss-ups and will determine the winner: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin. All eight of those states were carried by Obama in 2008.

Florida and Virginia are absolute must-win states for the Romney campaign. If the president wins either, the election will be his. It is quite reasonable to think the challenger can win these states but far from a sure thing.

If he can win those two states, Romney will then have to win either Ohio or Wisconsin to stay in the game. It is possible that the president could win both and keep his job, but that outcome is far from certain as well.

Ohio is the bigger prize with 18 Electoral College votes but may be a bit more difficult for Romney to carry. The auto bailout has helped the president in the Buckeye State, and the Obama campaign spent millions of dollars here early in the year defining Romney negatively. Still, Democrats may be a bit concerned that early voting in their Ohio strongholds is down from four years ago.

Wisconsin, with its 10 Electoral Votes, is close enough that both parties' presidential and vice presidential candidates have visited the state in recent days. If Romney can win the Badger State after losing Ohio, he would still need to win Colorado and either Iowa or Nevada to win the election.

Those who don't like uncertainty should focus on the congressional races. It appears that the Democrats are likely to retain control of the Senate and Republicans to keep control of the House.

But the race for the White House remains close because of the economy. Most Americans do not feel better off than they were four years ago, but most are not feeling worse off either.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Maher is a fucking tool. Always has been, always will be.

Is that any way to talk about one of Behshad's heros?

[The Sushi Hunter]

Joe Biden, at a campaign event today said, "There's never been a day in the last four years I've been proud to be his vice president."

Stand up Chuck!

Anticipating Obama would screw up, he was paired up with this moron in case they need a fall guy / scapegoat on short notice. They needed to find someone for the job that was not smart enough to know this. They found their man, Joe Biden.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Five days before the election, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has ruled out trying to work with Mitt Romney should he win next week.

"Mitt Romney's fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his 'severely conservative' agenda is laughable," Mr. Reid said in a statement on Friday, trying to puncture Mr. Romney's closing election argument that he'll be able to deliver on the bipartisanship President Obama promised in 2008 but has struggled to live up to.

No sweat Harry, you won't be in control anyways come Tuesday, Mitt and Paul will show you how to pass a budget since you haven't passed one in 3 years.

I sure hope your right because I can't take another four years of Obama and Joe Biden. What have these two actually accomplished over this past four years? Absolutely zero!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Faces of insanity:

[Behshad]

Nice try FakeFinder .
Only six of them "went belly up" = out of business.

Half of those on your list that filed for bk are the ones who got help throught the bk process to stay in business.
Funny how your buddy Mitt thinks its ok to go through a bankruptcy process and then get government assistance. Well maybe he changed his mind today

[Monker]

I've said this a few times. Those huge Bush haters (I mean the former president) should sit down and make a list of things they disliked about him.

Iraq. First of all, consistently implying or allowing people to believe the country was in any way connected to 9/11...and using 9/11 as an opportunity to start a never ending war there.

Tax cuts. Not the fact that there were tax cuts...but using them as a political ploy to get votes. Want to get reelected? Give people a tax cut and an early return in the form of a check in the mail. And, do it repeatedly even though it obviously did not permanently fix the economy.

Using the politics of fear. That stupid terrorism color defcon gauge was pure politics. Need people to focus on foreign policy? Change the terrorism state to yellow. Need a rise in popularity, leak something about terrorism.

Wrapping himself in the flag and claiming people who disagree with him on Iraq and terrorism are unpatriotic. Claiming those in congress who did not vote the way he wanted were "against the troops". It was modern day McCarthyism.

Missing the opportunity after 9/11 to really unite the country for the common good and to rally behind a common feeling of patriotism. Instead all we were told was to go shopping. Maybe buy some duct tape and shrink wrap so if there was a WMD attack we could wrap our house in it and feel safe.

Failed leadership with Katrinia. Instead of being a leader and DOING SOMETHING, he simply allowed politics to take over and the finger pointing to begin. And, BTW, if Romney or another "let the states handle it, and not FEMA" were President, there would be exact same situation today with Sandy. There are issues, but no where even close to Katrina.

Geez, even before he was elected, he allowed viscous attack ads towards McCain to take out his only competition in the primary.

W. was flat out the worst President in our history.

Ah, and BTW, about the Patriot Act. Most of that stuff was happening since the 80's...especially listening to phone conversation and email and anything else online. All the Patriot Act did was to make it "legal" so the government didn't have to use loopholes to get the same information.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

And, BTW, if Romney or another "let the states handle it, and not FEMA" were President, there would be exact same situation today with Sandy. There are issues, but no where even close to Katrina.

We already hearing stories about how FEMA is screwing up, and they will only get worse. And by the way FEMA screwed things up along the Gulf Coast for years after Katrina, and is still causing problems down there and in other disaster areas. FEMA doesn't do anything for the citizens its supposed to server.

[Monker]

And, BTW, if Romney or another "let the states handle it, and not FEMA" were President, there would be exact same situation today with Sandy. There are issues, but no where even close to Katrina.

We already hearing stories about how FEMA is screwing up, and they will only get worse. And by the way FEMA screwed things up along the Gulf Coast for years after Katrina, and is still causing problems down there and in other disaster areas. FEMA doesn't do anything for the citizens its supposed to server.

Sorry, but the problems with Katrina were far deeper then just FEMA. The cooperation between federal, state, and local governments was non-existent The situation was far, far, far worse. All you have to do is look at Chris Christie's words for that...How many governor's - of any party - used such words of praise for W?

I'm not saying the situation was/is perfect. No disaster is. Been there, done that. But, Obama's leadership was far above anything W was even capable of during Katrina.

[Behshad]

Rasmussen :


Ohio: Obama 49%, Romney 49%

Michigan: Obama 52%, Romney 47%

[brandonx76]

i fell asleep at a kid rock concert last year... just sayin'

[Behshad]

Rasmussen :


Ohio: Obama 49%, Romney 49%

Michigan: Obama 52%, Romney 47%

It's live, click it quick..biggest rally of the campaign LIVE!


http://video.foxnews.com/video-live-str ... 5606214001

Whatever happened to your Rasmussen "R 50 O 46 " ?!

[Memorex]

I've said this a few times. Those huge Bush haters (I mean the former president) should sit down and make a list of things they disliked about him.

Iraq. First of all, consistently implying or allowing people to believe the country was in any way connected to 9/11...and using 9/11 as an opportunity to start a never ending war there.

Tax cuts. Not the fact that there were tax cuts...but using them as a political ploy to get votes. Want to get reelected? Give people a tax cut and an early return in the form of a check in the mail. And, do it repeatedly even though it obviously did not permanently fix the economy.

Using the politics of fear. That stupid terrorism color defcon gauge was pure politics. Need people to focus on foreign policy? Change the terrorism state to yellow. Need a rise in popularity, leak something about terrorism.

Wrapping himself in the flag and claiming people who disagree with him on Iraq and terrorism are unpatriotic. Claiming those in congress who did not vote the way he wanted were "against the troops". It was modern day McCarthyism.

Missing the opportunity after 9/11 to really unite the country for the common good and to rally behind a common feeling of patriotism. Instead all we were told was to go shopping. Maybe buy some duct tape and shrink wrap so if there was a WMD attack we could wrap our house in it and feel safe.

Failed leadership with Katrinia. Instead of being a leader and DOING SOMETHING, he simply allowed politics to take over and the finger pointing to begin. And, BTW, if Romney or another "let the states handle it, and not FEMA" were President, there would be exact same situation today with Sandy. There are issues, but no where even close to Katrina.

Geez, even before he was elected, he allowed viscous attack ads towards McCain to take out his only competition in the primary.

W. was flat out the worst President in our history.

Ah, and BTW, about the Patriot Act. Most of that stuff was happening since the 80's...especially listening to phone conversation and email and anything else online. All the Patriot Act did was to make it "legal" so the government didn't have to use loopholes to get the same information.

I cannot think of one instance where the Bush administration tied Iraq to 9/11. Maybe on the fringes or something i never heard, but it was always about WMD's and lack of inspections that made both Dems and Republicans want to oust him. For me, I think America just wanted to blacken some eyes.

Oh my God. You are actually going to blame Republicans for wanting tax cuts to get votes? It's their entire platform. And it seems to me I could probably pull up 50,000 articles from October of 2010, just before those pesky little mid-terms about how Obama did not want to raise taxes, rallied to keep the Bush tax cuts for now, etc. Come on man. If that wasn't going against a platform to get votes.... Not to mention he wants to keep most of them as permanent rates.

I feel like I am replying to a child. Politics of fear? What the fuck? Yes - Republicans do it. Often. But the one thing I really have against the Democratic platform is it is entirely based on fear. Fear that the nasty white republican man won't ever help the black man. Fear that Republicans will restrict women from voting and having abortions and working and driving and having a voice. Fear that republicans will never respect a gay man. Look at what some frickin 9 or 10 year old black kid said at a Dem rally the other day. That if Romney wins, it's back to the plantation or fields or some shit. Yea - no fear. Dems break everyone into groups and then cowtow to them. I hate that shit.

I guess I never heard Bush say people were unpatriotic if they voted against him. I'd have to look that up.

The hatred toward Bush after the affects of 9/11 wore off were horrendous. I blame the Dems for that. Just as I blame republicans in many ways for the stalemate that exists now and for what they did over the Clinton/Blowinski thing. You can't unite people that want to hate you. Obama has had the same exact problem. He got swept into office on all this hope and change and gave it up. It's the politics of today. Again - the task here was to name things you hated about Bush and I'd show you Obama did the same. On this point, it's EXACTLY the same.

Both Katrina and Sandy are products of local leadership. We'll see how they do. Obama can't help shit and neither could Bush. With Katrina, it was far worse than anyone could imagine. In both cases, I have no idea why anyone stayed in the storm. That was stupid. There was so much corruption after Katrina. We'll have to see what happens with Sandy. FEMA and everyone else learned a lesson. As far as FEMA to the states - I am a big fan of states taking care of themselves, but I honestly don't know enough about this issue to say if that should happen.

If the patriot act was fine, why were so many people hating Bush for it and were so excited when Obama got elected so it could go away? But oops, presidents never give back power, so guess that was a fantasy.

I did not think Bush was anywhere near the worst and neither is Obama. Also, I look at what Bush did for AIDS funding and I find that pretty phenomenal. No President is bad or great at everything.

By the way - if someone wants to take a stab at an Obama list, I'll put them in their place like I've done with Monker here.

[steveo777]

Wasn't Iran part of Bush's axis of evil? Good call! They still are. Sooner or later we are gonna have to deal with them and I'd rather have someone in office that is not a Muslim apologist!

[Memorex]

Let me ask a question here. I was just thinking about this from watching some news coverage.

Who do you think has done more good, and not just from a money perspective, one-on-one, family-to-family, Obama or Romney? In other words, sitting down and helping families, getting them through hard times, etc. And I am not talking on a grand scale as President or Governor.

Interesting question, no?

[steveo777]

Let me ask a question here. I was just thinking about this from watching some news coverage.

Who do you think has done more good, and not just from a money perspective, one-on-one, family-to-family, Obama or Romney? In other words, sitting down and helping families, getting them through hard times, etc. And I am not talking on a grand scale as President or Governor.

Interesting question, no?

Romney. Are you swinging left or right?

I think there is going to be upheaval, no matter who get's elected. If Obama does not get elected there may be riots. Doesn't look good either way, frankly.......

[Memorex]

Are you swinging left or right?

Not a question I'll answer. I admit I have been awfully critical of many Obama things, but that's because he's the guy in office and I'm very much a small government, far less taxes guy. I see too much abuse of a welfare state and therefore feel it should be reigned in. But I am also socially very open and liberal, if that's the word. I hate war but I feel like America should use it's might daily to stop the many murders that take place around the world (e.g. Syria). Why anyone thinks we should allow that to continue is beyond me, though both Obama and Romney think we should.

I think both sides spend too much time campaigning and sellout their values. Obama hasn't done a damn thing in office in over a year and Bush did the same in '04 and Romney would do the same in '16 if elected now. I think our current president spends far too much time on the golf course and basketball course and not enough time with party leaders. It's VERY frustrating to me.

When Government has gotten so big, one man can no longer solve anything, no matter how powerful or no matter how big the mandate. Reid says today he will block all legislation from Republicans and the Democrat voters love that but they excoriate Limbaugh or McConnell when they say it about Dems. I HATE HYPOCRISY!!!!!! Hate it.

And here is what I also think. We need to stop looking so much for leaders to solve everything. We need to turn to each other and solve the problems as Americans, reach out to each other in times of need. Not just big need, but whenever someone needs a helping hand or an act of kindness. I can't imagine looking at someone who disagrees with me politically, or religiously and not helping them when the time arises.

Simple rule - if you are not sacrificing some in order to help those less fortunate or in need, then I feel like you really don't belong here. And that should not be forced or some government plan, it should be person to person. To me that makes the real difference. People will hold each other up more than the government will. It takes nothing to take an $800 a month check from the government - it feels free and easy and like no one suffers. But if an individual hands you $800 and expects you to help yourself, then you will feel that personal responsibility. You will do more to lift yourself up.

I don't know. I'm rambling I guess.

[steveo777]

Are you swinging left or right?

Not a question I'll answer. I admit I have been awfully critical of many Obama things, but that's because he's the guy in office and I'm very much a small government, far less taxes guy. I see too much abuse of a welfare state and therefore feel it should be reigned in. But I am also socially very open and liberal, if that's the word. I hate war but I feel like America should use it's might daily to stop the many murders that take place around the world (e.g. Syria). Why anyone thinks we should allow that to continue is beyond me, though both Obama and Romney think we should.

I think both sides spend too much time campaigning and sellout their values. Obama hasn't done a damn thing in office in over a year and Bush did the same in '04 and Romney would do the same in '16 if elected now. I think our current president spends far too much time on the golf course and basketball course and not enough time with party leaders. It's VERY frustrating to me.

When Government has gotten so big, one man can no longer solve anything, no matter how powerful or no matter how big the mandate. Reid says today he will block all legislation from Republicans and the Democrat voters love that but they excoriate Limbaugh or McConnell when they say it about Dems. I HATE HYPOCRISY!!!!!! Hate it.

And here is what I also think. We need to stop looking so much for leaders to solve everything. We need to turn to each other and solve the problems as Americans, reach out to each other in times of need. Not just big need, but whenever someone needs a helping hand or an act of kindness. I can't imagine looking at someone who disagrees with me politically, or religiously and not helping them when the time arises.

Simple rule - if you are not sacrificing some in order to help those less fortunate or in need, then I feel like you really don't belong here. And that should not be forced or some government plan, it should be person to person. To me that makes the real difference. People will hold each other up more than the government will. It takes nothing to take an $800 a month check from the government - it feels free and easy and like no one suffers. But if an individual hands you $800 and expects you to help yourself, then you will feel that personal responsibility. You will do more to lift yourself up.

I don't know. I'm rambling I guess.

Memorex, this is very meaningful post. I love it!
So really, again, what this election is about, is voting for the lesser evil. I hate those words because they have been so regurgitaded, but isn't it the truth?
You gave me the answer to my question!

[Memorex]

I've said this a few times. Those huge Bush haters (I mean the former president) should sit down and make a list of things they disliked about him.

Iraq. First of all, consistently implying or allowing people to believe the country was in any way connected to 9/11...and using 9/11 as an opportunity to start a never ending war there.

Tax cuts. Not the fact that there were tax cuts...but using them as a political ploy to get votes. Want to get reelected? Give people a tax cut and an early return in the form of a check in the mail. And, do it repeatedly even though it obviously did not permanently fix the economy.

Using the politics of fear. That stupid terrorism color defcon gauge was pure politics. Need people to focus on foreign policy? Change the terrorism state to yellow. Need a rise in popularity, leak something about terrorism.

Wrapping himself in the flag and claiming people who disagree with him on Iraq and terrorism are unpatriotic. Claiming those in congress who did not vote the way he wanted were "against the troops". It was modern day McCarthyism.

Missing the opportunity after 9/11 to really unite the country for the common good and to rally behind a common feeling of patriotism. Instead all we were told was to go shopping. Maybe buy some duct tape and shrink wrap so if there was a WMD attack we could wrap our house in it and feel safe.

Failed leadership with Katrinia. Instead of being a leader and DOING SOMETHING, he simply allowed politics to take over and the finger pointing to begin. And, BTW, if Romney or another "let the states handle it, and not FEMA" were President, there would be exact same situation today with Sandy. There are issues, but no where even close to Katrina.

Geez, even before he was elected, he allowed viscous attack ads towards McCain to take out his only competition in the primary.

W. was flat out the worst President in our history.

Ah, and BTW, about the Patriot Act. Most of that stuff was happening since the 80's...especially listening to phone conversation and email and anything else online. All the Patriot Act did was to make it "legal" so the government didn't have to use loopholes to get the same information.

I cannot think of one instance where the Bush administration tied Iraq to 9/11. Maybe on the fringes or something i never heard, but it was always about WMD's and lack of inspections that made both Dems and Republicans want to oust him. For me, I think America just wanted to blacken some eyes.

Oh my God. You are actually going to blame Republicans for wanting tax cuts to get votes? It's their entire platform. And it seems to me I could probably pull up 50,000 articles from October of 2010, just before those pesky little mid-terms about how Obama did not want to raise taxes, rallied to keep the Bush tax cuts for now, etc. Come on man. If that wasn't going against a platform to get votes.... Not to mention he wants to keep most of them as permanent rates.

I feel like I am replying to a child. Politics of fear? What the fuck? Yes - Republicans do it. Often. But the one thing I really have against the Democratic platform is it is entirely based on fear. Fear that the nasty white republican man won't ever help the black man. Fear that Republicans will restrict women from voting and having abortions and working and driving and having a voice. Fear that republicans will never respect a gay man. Look at what some frickin 9 or 10 year old black kid said at a Dem rally the other day. That if Romney wins, it's back to the plantation or fields or some shit. Yea - no fear. Dems break everyone into groups and then cowtow to them. I hate that shit.

I guess I never heard Bush say people were unpatriotic if they voted against him. I'd have to look that up.

The hatred toward Bush after the affects of 9/11 wore off were horrendous. I blame the Dems for that. Just as I blame republicans in many ways for the stalemate that exists now and for what they did over the Clinton/Blowinski thing. You can't unite people that want to hate you. Obama has had the same exact problem. He got swept into office on all this hope and change and gave it up. It's the politics of today. Again - the task here was to name things you hated about Bush and I'd show you Obama did the same. On this point, it's EXACTLY the same.

Both Katrina and Sandy are products of local leadership. We'll see how they do. Obama can't help shit and neither could Bush. With Katrina, it was far worse than anyone could imagine. In both cases, I have no idea why anyone stayed in the storm. That was stupid. There was so much corruption after Katrina. We'll have to see what happens with Sandy. FEMA and everyone else learned a lesson. As far as FEMA to the states - I am a big fan of states taking care of themselves, but I honestly don't know enough about this issue to say if that should happen.

If the patriot act was fine, why were so many people hating Bush for it and were so excited when Obama got elected so it could go away? But oops, presidents never give back power, so guess that was a fantasy.

I did not think Bush was anywhere near the worst and neither is Obama. Also, I look at what Bush did for AIDS funding and I find that pretty phenomenal. No President is bad or great at everything.

By the way - if someone wants to take a stab at an Obama list, I'll put them in their place like I've done with Monker here.

I'm so glad the libs don't practice politics of fear. Where would we be if that happened?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/03/maher-if-you-vote-romney-black-people-know-who-you-are-and-will-come

[Seven Wishes2]

For an intelligent guy, Memorex, you seem to have a long-term memory problem.

The Bush Administration unequivocally - and knowingly falsely - attempted to tie Hussein and Iraq to 9/11. The rhetoric from his speeches, and the public statements made by Administration officials, is mind-boggling.

https://sgadaria.expressions.syr.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Iraq-article_Gershkoff_Kushner.pdf

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003, specifically through a series of meetings reportedly involving the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

[Seven Wishes2]

RCP Average Obama +2.9
Rasmussen Reports Tie
NBC/WSJ/Marist Obama +6
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +3
WeAskAmerica Obama +4
Ohio Poll/Univ of Cin. Obama +2
USA Today Obama +3
Gravis Marketing Obama +2
PPP Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac Obama +5
Purple Strategies Obama +2
ARG Obama +4

Notice a pattern?

[RedWingFan]

RCP Average Obama +2.9
Rasmussen Reports Tie
NBC/WSJ/Marist Obama +6
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +3
WeAskAmerica Obama +4
Ohio Poll/Univ of Cin. Obama +2
USA Today Obama +3
Gravis Marketing Obama +2
PPP Obama +4
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac Obama +5
Purple Strategies Obama +2
ARG Obama +4

Notice a pattern?

Bet it's the same pattern you'd see if you go into the internals and see how Democrats are oversampled in every poll.
See you Tuesday night!

[Seven Wishes2]

Riiight! Every one, except Rasmussen! It's all a massive conspiracy! All non-Fox media must die!!!