President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[The Sushi Hunter]

If Romney wins tonight, does it mean we're changing the subject to "President Mitt Romney - One Term Thread"? And the bickering continues?

I don't know about the first part of that, but for sure I know the second part will be quite true. I voted Romney though and would like to see him win. However, my gut feeling is Obama will win, by how much I have no idea.

[SultanOfSwing]

If Romney wins tonight, does it mean we're changing the subject to "President Mitt Romney - One Term Thread"? And the bickering continues?

Yes, but it's "Term One" after tonight, "Term Two" in 2016.

Yeah, I'm sure Beshad will create a new folder out of this.

[Behshad]

Dan Rather says on MSNBC: “my gut tells me that it’s going to be a good day for Romney”

A good day. But a horrible night !!

[The Sushi Hunter]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period. We've had to ask people to even not talk politics while in the polling area. And to have a fucking painting of shithead at a polling location? What a fucking bunch of bullshit! I hope big time these dems lose, but doubt it that they actually will. Fucking pisses me off how bias they are.

With the photo, we now have the answer to why the Republicans were kicked out. Because of that stupid fucking painting that shouldn't be allowed in a polling site. Good on you Dems, living up to your true shitty selves completely on your own.

[FinnFreak]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period. We've had to ask people to even not talk politics while in the polling area. And to have a fucking painting of shithead at a polling location? What a fucking bunch of bullshit! I hope big time these dems lose, but doubt it that they actually will. Fucking pisses me off how bias they are.

With the photo, we now have the answer to why the Republicans were kicked out. Because of that stupid fucking painting that shouldn't be allowed in a polling site. Good on you Dems, living up to your true shitty selves completely on your own.

Amazing.

ANY democratic elections ANYWHERE should be run under the universal rule of NO pictures of ANY candidates in sight.

Was covering up that picture on the wall so difficult..?!?

...on the other hand, many international observers have claimed - over the years - how some African countries' elections are much more closer to the idealistic democratic process than the U.S. elections are...


John -

[The Sushi Hunter]

Amazing.

ANY democratic elections ANYWHERE should be run under the universal rule of NO pictures of ANY candidates in sight.

Was covering up that picture on the wall so difficult..?!?

...on the other hand, many international observers have claimed - over the years - how some African countries' elections are much more closer to the idealistic democratic process than the U.S. elections are...

John -

That's the way it has been at the polls when I've worked them over the past few years. Amazing is right, that they would allow such a facility with that painting to be exposed in plain site at a polling location. I'm pretty sure that's why they were not allowing Republicans in the facilities during the early morning setup process. Republicans would have enforced the rules and covered that up as that's the way polling places are supposed to be set up. Even people with political signage are supposed to come no closer than 100 feet from the enterances to polling facilities.

[AR]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period.

A mural of the president seems to be ok in Philly though.

[Liam]

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/intimidat ... n-in-face/

[Behshad]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period.

A mural of the president seems to be ok in Philly though.

Thats from the same story

[Behshad]

Polls Suggest Undecideds Won't Help Romney (If They Show Up)
Undecided voters have been focus grouped, split up into tiny subdivisions, and above all, relentlessly mocked this election. And now, after hundreds of millions of dollars spent to win their vote, there's finally some evidence from pollsters that they're reaching a decision.

The latest WSJ/NBC national poll puts Obama up over Romney by the narrowest margin, 48 percent to 47 percent. But it's the poll's breakdown of respondents who are either undecided or still willing to consider switching that stands out. According to NBC, the 9 percent of voters who fit the bill are overwhelmingly warmer to Obama. They approve of his performance by a 48-41 margin and like him personally by a 46-29 margin, both better than his national averages. Romney, by contrast, fares much worse with a 22-46 favorability rating.

It's a small sample size, but as long as they don't break strongly to Romney -- and those numbers seem to suggest they won't -- Obama is in good shape. Neil Newhouse, Romney's pollster, recently predicted victory in key states like Ohio in part because Obama often polls below 50% and the remaining undecideds are likely to flock to the challenger. If that shift doesn't come, Obama's leads are likely to hold up.

The Obama campaign has been making the opposing case to Romney's for months, arguing that the available data on undecided voters suggests they're less friendly towards Romney even if they're aren't fans of Obama. Based on their current polling, campaign officials are expecting something resembling a 50-50 split.

Looking at the latest numbers, there's little indication that undecideds are turning to Romney this week and at least some signs that point the other way. Pew's final election poll used a regression model to game out where the remaining undecideds were headed based on their demographics, ideological leanings, and feelings towards the candidates. The result was an even split: Obama led 48-45 without the model, 50-47 with it.

"Other than being less politically attentive and politically oriented, haven't seen any particular profile associated with them that points to one candidate or the other," Michael Dimico, associate research director at Pew, told TPM. He added that they found similar results when they prodded undecided voters at the end of surveys to just "guess" which candidate they planned on voting for. About 60% stuck to their undecided label while the others showed no significant lean towards Obama or Romney.

Democratic PPP came to similar conclusions as Pew after conducting dozens of polls over the final week of the campaign across red, blue, and purple states alike.

UCLA political scientist Lynn Vavreck surveyed undecided voters at regular intervals from December 2011 on and concluded last week that those who had made up their mind since then tended to favor Obama.

Many strategists from both parties are skeptical that the remaining undecideds will even show up to the polls at this point. But the trend of relatively even movement among undecideds, or even a slight tilt to Obama, looks plausible in the TPM Polltracker Average of the national race. Over the last week, the two candidates have ticked upwards in tandem. And in all-important Ohio, Obama is moving steadily towards 50 percent even as Romney largely holds onto his post-debate gains

[Memorex]

Extra ballots being handed out?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/election-judge-wears-obama-cap-while-checking-voters-obamas-chicago-ward_661843.html

[The Sushi Hunter]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period.

A mural of the president seems to be ok in Philly though.

Not at any polling locations.

[The Sushi Hunter]

State court judge orders local election officials to cover up Obama mural at Philadelphia school serving as polling place - @petewilliamsnbc

Much of it is still exposed though.

[conversationpc]

Our polls in Indiana opened at 6:00. I got there at 5:45 and was the 10th person in line. None of the machines county-wide were working, so we waited about an hour. They finally got them online and I voted at about 6:50.

[Memorex]

I voted on paper. In and out in 10 minutes. Based on the machine count, I was the 847th person of the day.

[slucero]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Does anyone know why they were booted in the first place?

I've worked the polls before and one of the things you can't do is even wear a shirt with anything indicating Republican or Democrat on it. The polling areas are to be free of any Republican or Democrat suggested items period.

A mural of the president seems to be ok in Philly though.

Actually not... the mural ws ordered covered by a judge...

Operators of a Philadelphia polling place have been ordered by a judge to cover up a mural of President Obama that is emblazoned on a wall behind the voting machines.

The mural was being covered by voter instruction posters -- after Republicans voiced concerns that the painting could influence voters.

The mural, apparently at a school being used as a polling site in Ward 35, contained the words "change!" and "hope," along with a quote from the president and painting of him.

[The Sushi Hunter]

The pix of it that I've seen now that it's been "covered up" is only the blue sheets of paper basically just covering up the face only. You still see the hairline, the Obama iconic blue circle and whatever else.

In regards to the machines not working, you could have voted with paper ballots if you wanted, unless they don't offer that alternative where your located. Since I worked the polls before in the past, some people don't trust the machines and want to vote with paper ballots. This morning since only one machine was working at where I was casting my vote and I was the first one in line, everyone behind me was using paper ballots because they had to vote and get to work by 8 am, our polls open at 7 am in CA. As soon as I was done, the other machines that were down were fixed and people started to use them instead of the paper ballots.

[RedWingFan]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11 ... d-in-ohio/

"Overall, early vote turnout OH up 2.44% in state. Down -4.1% in Obama/Kerry counties; up 14.39% in Bush/McCain counties."

[Behshad]

Early voting results 2012: AP reports latest figures from Ohio, Florida

Ohio
Votes: 1.6 million
Democrats: 29 percent
Republicans: 23 percent

Florida
Votes: 4.3 million
Democrats: 43 percent
Republicans: 40 percent

North Carolina
Votes: 2.7 million
Democrats: 48 percent
Republicans: 37 percent

Iowa
Votes: 614,000
Democrats: 43 percent
Republicans: 32 percent

Colorado
Votes: 1.6 million
Democrats: 35 percent
Republicans: 37 percent

[Memorex]

Wonder what they were last year. Cause in OH, FL, and CO, that seems like Republicans probably did a lot better than last year. Interesting. All the talk about NC, that gap is wider than I expected.

[Behshad]

I think they both did better than last year !

[Memorex]

I think they both did better than last year !

You know what I mean. Last time.

[Behshad]

I think they both did better than last year !

You know what I mean. Last time.

I know! I couldnt help it , sorry

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Found this an interesting read, alot of Romney voters have already lost whether he wins or loses the election tonight.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... dont-care/

"Romney has never stood for the “rollback of the federal leviathan.” He wouldn’t even know why that would be desirable, and he wouldn’t pay lip service to it until someone told him that it might gain him a few votes. On the contrary, he has represented everything in the GOP that favors its continued, gradual expansion, and he will continue to do so should he be elected to office. Conservatives are obviously being taken for a ride by Romney, who will end up doing very little that they want and will frequently abuse their trust. The amazing thing is that their antipathy to Obama is so great that most of them long ago ceased to car."

[Memorex]

Like I said. You wake up tomorrow and it's Wednesday. That's about it.

[Behshad]

Found this an interesting read, alot of Romney voters have already lost whether he wins or loses the election tonight.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... dont-care/

"Romney has never stood for the “rollback of the federal leviathan.” He wouldn’t even know why that would be desirable, and he wouldn’t pay lip service to it until someone told him that it might gain him a few votes. On the contrary, he has represented everything in the GOP that favors its continued, gradual expansion, and he will continue to do so should he be elected to office. Conservatives are obviously being taken for a ride by Romney, who will end up doing very little that they want and will frequently abuse their trust. The amazing thing is that their antipathy to Obama is so great that most of them long ago ceased to car."

The first comment on the page was interesting as well :

I think it really boils down to this. Public opinion of Obama coming into the election was despairingly low. Pretty much everyone in the United States had hoped that things would be better than this by now, aside from a few companies building drones or working on windmills. Tough times, and all that. It is what it is. I would have been quite likely to vote third party, republican, or perhaps even not at all this year, being rather disgusted with the whole thing. And then, for some unknown reason, the GOP thought it was most wise to usher Romney into the republican presidential nomination, despite a considerable amount of push back even from their own members. Perhaps they thought “He’s the perfect puppet, and anyone could beat Obama at this point, so lets go all or nothing”, who knows?. Anyway, it seems to me that at this point, Mr. Romney has been revealed to everyone as an opportunist, a hypocrite, and a liar. For slightly more than half of us, that’s plenty enough reason to grant Obama the second term he doesn’t necessarily deserve. The 47% or so (isn’t that ironic?), will vote for Romney, even though they know deep down that he’s a lying opportunistic hypocrite, simply because he isn’t Obama. That’s why Obama is going to win this election, even if he shouldn’t, that’s why I feel foolish for casting my vote for him, and that’s why I’m glad Romney will lose.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Found this an interesting read, alot of Romney voters have already lost whether he wins or loses the election tonight.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... dont-care/

"Romney has never stood for the “rollback of the federal leviathan.” He wouldn’t even know why that would be desirable, and he wouldn’t pay lip service to it until someone told him that it might gain him a few votes. On the contrary, he has represented everything in the GOP that favors its continued, gradual expansion, and he will continue to do so should he be elected to office. Conservatives are obviously being taken for a ride by Romney, who will end up doing very little that they want and will frequently abuse their trust. The amazing thing is that their antipathy to Obama is so great that most of them long ago ceased to car."

The first comment on the page was interesting as well :

I think it really boils down to this. Public opinion of Obama coming into the election was despairingly low. Pretty much everyone in the United States had hoped that things would be better than this by now, aside from a few companies building drones or working on windmills. Tough times, and all that. It is what it is. I would have been quite likely to vote third party, republican, or perhaps even not at all this year, being rather disgusted with the whole thing. And then, for some unknown reason, the GOP thought it was most wise to usher Romney into the republican presidential nomination, despite a considerable amount of push back even from their own members. Perhaps they thought “He’s the perfect puppet, and anyone could beat Obama at this point, so lets go all or nothing”, who knows?. Anyway, it seems to me that at this point, Mr. Romney has been revealed to everyone as an opportunist, a hypocrite, and a liar. For slightly more than half of us, that’s plenty enough reason to grant Obama the second term he doesn’t necessarily deserve. The 47% or so (isn’t that ironic?), will vote for Romney, even though they know deep down that he’s a lying opportunistic hypocrite, simply because he isn’t Obama. That’s why Obama is going to win this election, even if he shouldn’t, that’s why I feel foolish for casting my vote for him, and that’s why I’m glad Romney will lose.

true but I wounldn't get too smug, as Obama is every bit the hypocritical joker as well.

[Behshad]

Found this an interesting read, alot of Romney voters have already lost whether he wins or loses the election tonight.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... dont-care/

"Romney has never stood for the “rollback of the federal leviathan.” He wouldn’t even know why that would be desirable, and he wouldn’t pay lip service to it until someone told him that it might gain him a few votes. On the contrary, he has represented everything in the GOP that favors its continued, gradual expansion, and he will continue to do so should he be elected to office. Conservatives are obviously being taken for a ride by Romney, who will end up doing very little that they want and will frequently abuse their trust. The amazing thing is that their antipathy to Obama is so great that most of them long ago ceased to car."

The first comment on the page was interesting as well :

I think it really boils down to this. Public opinion of Obama coming into the election was despairingly low. Pretty much everyone in the United States had hoped that things would be better than this by now, aside from a few companies building drones or working on windmills. Tough times, and all that. It is what it is. I would have been quite likely to vote third party, republican, or perhaps even not at all this year, being rather disgusted with the whole thing. And then, for some unknown reason, the GOP thought it was most wise to usher Romney into the republican presidential nomination, despite a considerable amount of push back even from their own members. Perhaps they thought “He’s the perfect puppet, and anyone could beat Obama at this point, so lets go all or nothing”, who knows?. Anyway, it seems to me that at this point, Mr. Romney has been revealed to everyone as an opportunist, a hypocrite, and a liar. For slightly more than half of us, that’s plenty enough reason to grant Obama the second term he doesn’t necessarily deserve. The 47% or so (isn’t that ironic?), will vote for Romney, even though they know deep down that he’s a lying opportunistic hypocrite, simply because he isn’t Obama. That’s why Obama is going to win this election, even if he shouldn’t, that’s why I feel foolish for casting my vote for him, and that’s why I’m glad Romney will lose.

true but I wounldn't get too smug, as Obama is every bit the hypocritical joker as well.

I dunno....

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Found this an interesting read, alot of Romney voters have already lost whether he wins or loses the election tonight.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... dont-care/

"Romney has never stood for the “rollback of the federal leviathan.” He wouldn’t even know why that would be desirable, and he wouldn’t pay lip service to it until someone told him that it might gain him a few votes. On the contrary, he has represented everything in the GOP that favors its continued, gradual expansion, and he will continue to do so should he be elected to office. Conservatives are obviously being taken for a ride by Romney, who will end up doing very little that they want and will frequently abuse their trust. The amazing thing is that their antipathy to Obama is so great that most of them long ago ceased to car."

The first comment on the page was interesting as well :

I think it really boils down to this. Public opinion of Obama coming into the election was despairingly low. Pretty much everyone in the United States had hoped that things would be better than this by now, aside from a few companies building drones or working on windmills. Tough times, and all that. It is what it is. I would have been quite likely to vote third party, republican, or perhaps even not at all this year, being rather disgusted with the whole thing. And then, for some unknown reason, the GOP thought it was most wise to usher Romney into the republican presidential nomination, despite a considerable amount of push back even from their own members. Perhaps they thought “He’s the perfect puppet, and anyone could beat Obama at this point, so lets go all or nothing”, who knows?. Anyway, it seems to me that at this point, Mr. Romney has been revealed to everyone as an opportunist, a hypocrite, and a liar. For slightly more than half of us, that’s plenty enough reason to grant Obama the second term he doesn’t necessarily deserve. The 47% or so (isn’t that ironic?), will vote for Romney, even though they know deep down that he’s a lying opportunistic hypocrite, simply because he isn’t Obama. That’s why Obama is going to win this election, even if he shouldn’t, that’s why I feel foolish for casting my vote for him, and that’s why I’m glad Romney will lose.

true but I wounldn't get too smug, as Obama is every bit the hypocritical joker as well.

I dunno....

the list forgot the following.....

started an illegal war in Libya,
didnt defend american citizens there,
assaulted the 4th amendment rights of Americans through the NDAA,
assaulted the first amendment rights of Catholics by forcing them to pay for things that go against their conscience, led the weakest economic recovery ever with little to no job growth (not enough to cover for growing population,
continued to let the Federal reserve erode the long term well being of the middle class,
made healthcare provision even worse though through more regulation and an immoral individual mandate.
handcuffed economic growth through wasteful govt stimulus.

Is there absolutely no way that both guys could lose tonight....pretty please......?[/list]

[The Sushi Hunter]

Maybe I should rethink taking a walk this evening after work. Romney wins and tonight I may find myself being assjacked by some thugs on the side of the road.