tater1977 wrote:So Herbie was actually retired, before the band reformed for TBF
But they still had to have a manager, picking Azoff.
So why did Herbie have the big fit about being fired by the band
when he, by his own words retired back in 1991... 6 or 7 years beforehand
FamilyMan wrote:tater1977 wrote:So Herbie was actually retired, before the band reformed for TBF
But they still had to have a manager, picking Azoff.
So why did Herbie have the big fit about being fired by the band
when he, by his own words retired back in 1991... 6 or 7 years beforehand
Because a Journey reunion would have been HUGE. It would have meant one more trip on the merry-go-round.
DracIsBack wrote:Herbie seems a lot smaller than he used to be. Not sure if this is intentional or not but he looks a lot thinner and more feeble now.
tater1977 wrote:So Herbie was actually retired, before the band's reunion for TBF
But they still had to have a manager, picking Azoff.
So why did Herbie have the big fit about being fired by the band
when he, by his own words retired back in 1991... 6 or 7 years beforehand
perryfan61 wrote:Hope you can post the second part of this interview, sounds like it could be great. He certainly took the band, and the business, much further than any other manager could have.
He really was a huge fan of the band, you can see it in the documentary. He loved the music, and I believe he did love the guys back then. Neal is certainly his favourite, of course, but it was SP who gave him all the credit at the RRHOF.
JourneyLFN wrote:Here is his quote from the Classic Rock Revisited interview - I can't find the year it was done though:
"CRR: How did your relationship with the band end?
Herbie: I continued to work it through ’93. When Bill Graham died I wanted to retire from everything and stop. Somehow Jon Cain hallucinates and says that he phoned me up and fired me [laughing]. He said that in an interview on some T.V. show but I fail to recollect that. Who was he? I was the only shareholder. As I stepped back, I issued stock to all of them in Nightmare Inc. and just walked; that’s basically it."
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Anyone remember around the Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony there was a Herbie interview where he said the band had as much chance of a new hit record as his dick growing a foot. The band has come a long way. At the same time, I have to question some of his stories. He said he ran into SA during Tall Stories days and Augeri was begging to sing for Journey even back then. Personally I don't buy that.
RPM wrote:Why? Seems logical to me that he would have wanted the gig, no?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:RPM wrote:Why? Seems logical to me that he would have wanted the gig, no?
Remember, Augeri thought the initial Schon phone call was a prank. A friend got SA's name in the running. To this day, SA feels other people could have done the job. I just don't see him aggressively nominating himself to replace SP.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:RPM wrote:Why? Seems logical to me that he would have wanted the gig, no?
Remember, Augeri thought the initial Schon phone call was a prank. A friend got SA's name in the running. To this day, SA feels other people could have done the job. I just don't see him aggressively nominating himself to replace SP.
perryfan61 wrote:Hope you can post the second part of this interview, sounds like it could be great. He certainly took the band, and the business, much further than any other manager could have.
He really was a huge fan of the band, you can see it in the documentary. He loved the music, and I believe he did love the guys back then. Neal is certainly his favourite, of course, but it was SP who gave him all the credit at the RRHOF.
Monker wrote:tater1977 wrote:So Herbie was actually retired, before the band's reunion for TBF
But they still had to have a manager, picking Azoff.
So why did Herbie have the big fit about being fired by the band
when he, by his own words retired back in 1991... 6 or 7 years beforehand
He was also listed as the manager of The Storm (with Smith, Valory, and Rolie) back in 1991...out of that grew the original reunion with: Chalfant, Rolie, Cain, Schon, and Valory. Just as that started going, the talks with Perry happened. Sony wanted Perry and Perry did not want Herbie. And, so Herbie had to let the band go.
IMO, he felt screwed by the guys - no loyalty. The band stuck by Perry instead of Herbie - twice...for ROR and TBF. In ROR, Herbie may be listed as manager, but Perry took over much of the vision that Herbie had up to that point...everything from hiring and firing members to the album cover art.
perryfan61 wrote:At least he "tips his hat" to SP and the band for being totally committed to their brand, and staying healthy while on tour. Others have hinted otherwise, but Herbie would know better than anyone else, one would think.
JourneyHard wrote:I think anybody over the age of 40 wants some hard copy of the songs. They don't want a digital download that they cannot touch and feel. Journey should release a new CD.
It is not about selling albums. It is about being creative. A new collection of songs is a form of art.
I am not sure about digital downloads. It seems like a scam. Computers or Ipads or whatever you put them on become old very fast. Then you get a new computer or Ipad or Iphone or whatever and have to keep BUYING the same songs over and over again. Give me a CD where I pay once and I am done with it.
tj wrote:JourneyHard wrote:I think anybody over the age of 40 wants some hard copy of the songs. They don't want a digital download that they cannot touch and feel. Journey should release a new CD.
It is not about selling albums. It is about being creative. A new collection of songs is a form of art.
I am not sure about digital downloads. It seems like a scam. Computers or Ipads or whatever you put them on become old very fast. Then you get a new computer or Ipad or Iphone or whatever and have to keep BUYING the same songs over and over again. Give me a CD where I pay once and I am done with it.
You can transfer from one device to a new one. Also with backups done properly, you should not lose your music library. That said, I still want a CD as well. Just a digital download doesn't do it for me either.
slucero wrote:I lived in the SF Bay Area in the 80s... and I remember a news story about Neal getting busted in his Ferrari with a bag of coke...
2nd part of the interview.
https://issuu.com/bizxmagazine/docs/biz ... pt_2017/32
bellairepark73 wrote:No drugs in this band. Yeah right. That story was shut down quick fast and swept right under the rug. Some people HAD to have been paid off to let that go. If you can find that I would LOVE to read it.
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