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artinis1 wrote:Does no one care, the same could be said for Journey, but when you see
other bands or artists release deluxe anniversary sets, why not Styx?
Grand Illusion with a companion live disc from that era, why not?
Boomchild wrote:artinis1 wrote:Does no one care, the same could be said for Journey, but when you see
other bands or artists release deluxe anniversary sets, why not Styx?
Grand Illusion with a companion live disc from that era, why not?
I assume it is due to UNI\A&M not thinking it's worth it. If I remember correctly, several years ago A&M was looking to release a "deluxe edition" of GI with a bonus disc containing a live concert recording from the GI tour. However, one of the band members objected to the live recording being released. Which seemed to put the kibosh on the project. Frankly I was surprised that UNI re-released the A&M catalog on 180grm vinyl a short time ago. With the decline of the CD format I doubt you will see special editions coming out. At least in the U.S. market. The interesting thing is that when DDY has been asked about outtakes or unreleased material, his answer has always been "nothing exists". Which I find hard to believe. I think it s because he really doesn't feel it's stuff for public consumption.
Baron Von Bielski wrote:I don't necessarily think they don't think it's worth it because I've seen lots of albums given the deluxe treatment that didn't sell what GI, PoE, Cornerstone or PT sold. There's either an issue with the true masters or nothing to add to the album like demos. The ladder you already touched on. There's gotta be something we just don't know. Especially in this era where everything practically gets deluxed. Albums that barely went platinum or sometimes just gold. Hopefully someday we will get lucky because GI definitely deserves it, if not a super deluxe. All that takes is a remastered original and a disc or two full of live material from the tour. If it's true there's no usable demos then live is all we can hope for. Maybe 2 shows. Also a disc of 5.1 surround and a 180 gram vinyl to round it off. All encased in a kick ass box with a booklet of pics and band interviews about the album. We can dream.
Boomchild wrote:Baron Von Bielski wrote:I don't necessarily think they don't think it's worth it because I've seen lots of albums given the deluxe treatment that didn't sell what GI, PoE, Cornerstone or PT sold. There's either an issue with the true masters or nothing to add to the album like demos. The ladder you already touched on. There's gotta be something we just don't know. Especially in this era where everything practically gets deluxed. Albums that barely went platinum or sometimes just gold. Hopefully someday we will get lucky because GI definitely deserves it, if not a super deluxe. All that takes is a remastered original and a disc or two full of live material from the tour. If it's true there's no usable demos then live is all we can hope for. Maybe 2 shows. Also a disc of 5.1 surround and a 180 gram vinyl to round it off. All encased in a kick ass box with a booklet of pics and band interviews about the album. We can dream.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the 180grm re-issues were remastered versions. I believe true masters are available except for Cornerstone. I believe TS commented at some point that those were "lost".
FormerDJMike wrote:Yes, the 180 gram vinyl was remastered by Ron McMaster including Cornerstone. A remaster can still be done from any analog (or digital source) even if the master tapes are gone.
StyxCollector wrote:Do a search. This has been discussed many times as to why, including by me. The tapes are fine, FWIW. And there is stuff that could be released for some albums as part of a deluxe.
The Journey remasters (especially the 2nd set; the catalog was redone for digital 3x including the original CDs) are not great.
Baron Von Bielski wrote:Yes, it has been talked about before. But things change over time and the deluxe or super deluxe treatment seems to be given to all sorts of releases less deserving than many Styx albums. Even more so than before. IMO.
Boomchild wrote:I think what hinders releases like this is special content. I could be wrong but I get the impression that Styx doesn't have much when it comes to unreleased live material. Then you have the resistance (mainly DDY) from releasing outtakes or alternate versions that may exist. I believe DDY is of the mind set that this stuff is not meant for public consumption. I think he feels that it was not good enough to make it on an album then it's not meant to be heard.
yogi wrote:Wasn't there a really great boot of the Paradise Theater show from Baltimore? That may have been Journey but I think it was Styx.
S2M wrote:Rifling through my audio files I came across a few audio boots. Anyone know if these are commonly known ones, or hidden gems?
Live in Providence '75
Winterland Illusion 1.28.78
Sunset in Paradise '83
Grand Illusion Live '77
artinis1 wrote:I would love live stuff from the Paradise Theater tour and Cornerstone tour,
Does anything exist? Did they actually record shows from those days ?
S2M wrote:Rifling through my audio files I came across a few audio boots. Anyone know if these are commonly known ones, or hidden gems?
Live in Providence '75
Winterland Illusion 1.28.78
Sunset in Paradise '83
Grand Illusion Live '77
Baron Von Bielski wrote:It’s too bad. A lot of these anniversary deluxe releases other bands have released have been well put together. I’m really no longer interested too much in just a simple 2-disc release. I really like when it includes the LP, the original disc, a live disc and a blu-ray audio 5.1 surround mix. I’ve never been too keen on demos unless they offer something really unique. Not just crappy versions of the album tracks.
Boomchild wrote:A "digitally remastered" version of CTA has popped up on Amazon. Strangely it's only one disc and does not appear to be complete.
https://www.amazon.com/Caught-Act-Live- ... words=Styx
StyxGuy wrote:Boomchild wrote:A "digitally remastered" version of CTA has popped up on Amazon. Strangely it's only one disc and does not appear to be complete.
https://www.amazon.com/Caught-Act-Live- ... words=Styx
Looks like it's done by BGO Records. Amazon UK shows it as a Feb 2 release.
http://www.bgo-records.com/albums/bgocd ... e-act-live
They're the same company that made the Equinox/Crystal Ball single CD.
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