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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:58 am

Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


What a lazy and binary viewpoint you have. Dems =good, Repubs = bad. A true independent might be pointing out the Democratic Socialist wins across the country. But you're not a independent. You're a fraud.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:20 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


What a lazy and binary viewpoint you have. Dems =good, Repubs = bad.


Nope....Trump = bad, almost everybody else = better.

A true independent might be pointing out the Democratic Socialist wins across the country. But you're not a independent. You're a fraud.


Nope. That's what a Bernie fan like you would do.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:22 am

Fact Finder wrote::lol:

DOJ demands CNN to be sold as condition for AT&T, Time Warner deal approval

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/08/att-cfo ... in-dj.html


The merger should fall through anyway. When DirectTV and DishNetwork wanted to merge years ago, that was not approved...and this is a larger media merger than that was.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:24 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:So many facts. More and more comes out.

http://www.ntd.tv/2017/10/30/republican ... onspiracy/


What a dumb-ass you are. This article is a month old. Idiot.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:29 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


What a lazy and binary viewpoint you have. Dems =good, Repubs = bad. A true independent might be pointing out the Democratic Socialist wins across the country. But you're not a independent. You're a fraud.


Fraud, liar, numbskull, Globalist, socialist,ect.


Well, you lied when you called me a socialist, which makes you a fraud, and I don't think you even know what a globalist truly is....at least you didn't a few months ago. So, what a pointless post.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:31 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


In Blue States. :roll:


Yeah, keep telling yourself that yesterday meant nothing. I hope you all ignore it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:36 am

Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


2 governorships changing hands does not a rejection make.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:47 am

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Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


2 governorships changing hands does not a rejection make.


What's the other state besides New Jersey that flipped to Dem? Virginia was already Dem. Neither of these are a surprise and the shock would have been if a Republican won in an off year in blue states. Jersey was always going back to Dem after Christie.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:06 pm

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Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


2 governorships changing hands does not a rejection make.


There was more than just the governorship that flipped. Republicans lost deep into the state and local levels. The gains Republicans had made in those states over the years vanished.

And, that is important because now Democrats control precinct boundaries...and that is something that can have an effect for years to come.

Also, even Bannon was saying Trump could claim a victory if VA was kept close. It wasn't close...it was a 9pt loss.

Don't forget, THE reason Trump won was because Democrats did not vote, and when they did, many went for Trump. That simply did not happen yesterday. MORE people turned out for BOTH Republicans and Democrats...but FAR more turned out for Democrats, and they did NOT vote Republican.

So, when you start looking this a bit closer, it is a REVERSAL of the trend that put Trump in the Whitehouse. Combine that with the CNN poll that says 65% of the people do not believe Trump has earned a second term....and Republicans are in the shit.

Nobody cares about this Clinton crap you are going on about. The voters were LIED to by Trump and they do NOT like it. Tax reform was supposed to go to the middle class...but that isn't what is proposed. Trump advocated UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, but that is not what was proposed - after multiple tries. During the campaign Trump told people what they wanted to hear, but it was all LIES to get him elected. Once elected, he threw everything to congress for McConnell and Ryan to get done....Well, they do not believe in the LIBERAL healthcare and tax policies of Trump....and that is not what they will propose or pass.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:10 pm

Fact Finder wrote:by tomorrow at 2 pm nobody will know who the govs of va and nj are.


This isn't just about the governors...

Two points of fact.

TV reporter Alison Parker was murdered on camera in Virginia. Her boyfriend Chris Hurst quit his job at the station and ran for a Va House of Delegates seat on a platform of reducing gun violence in her honor. He won over the incumbent in an upset victory. He was A+ rated by the NRA.

Trans woman Danica Roem beat ant-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall, becoming the first trans state legislator in America. Also Bob Marshall wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill.

This election turned its back on Trump and his hate issues.

But, yeah, be in denial...the more you believe in Uranium One and Donna Brazille being something people in America care about, the more likely Trump will lose congress....and may the impeachment begin.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:37 pm

OK, now i know the human race has totally lost it. And we expect people to have level heads when it comes to governmental issues.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby slucero » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:01 pm

Monker wrote:
slucero wrote:
Monker wrote:...and while you all were having fantasies about Democrat cat-fights, in the real world Democrats were winning elections and voters were rejecting the Trump agenda.


2 governorships changing hands does not a rejection make.


There was more than just the governorship that flipped. Republicans lost deep into the state and local levels. The gains Republicans had made in those states over the years vanished.

And, that is important because now Democrats control precinct boundaries...and that is something that can have an effect for years to come.

Also, even Bannon was saying Trump could claim a victory if VA was kept close. It wasn't close...it was a 9pt loss.

Don't forget, THE reason Trump won was because Democrats did not vote, and when they did, many went for Trump. That simply did not happen yesterday. MORE people turned out for BOTH Republicans and Democrats...but FAR more turned out for Democrats, and they did NOT vote Republican.

So, when you start looking this a bit closer, it is a REVERSAL of the trend that put Trump in the Whitehouse. Combine that with the CNN poll that says 65% of the people do not believe Trump has earned a second term....and Republicans are in the shit.

Nobody cares about this Clinton crap you are going on about. The voters were LIED to by Trump and they do NOT like it. Tax reform was supposed to go to the middle class...but that isn't what is proposed. Trump advocated UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, but that is not what was proposed - after multiple tries. During the campaign Trump told people what they wanted to hear, but it was all LIES to get him elected. Once elected, he threw everything to congress for McConnell and Ryan to get done....Well, they do not believe in the LIBERAL healthcare and tax policies of Trump....and that is not what they will propose or pass.



Voters are lied to all the time by politicians.

The double standard of your hate is hilarious... you come off like an idiot pretending to be a moron....

HRC's lies don't bother you that much.. nor does the coincidental trail of bodies she and Billy Jeff have left in their political wake...

andn yet all Trump has done is lie... just like HRC, Obama, GWB and all the POTUS before them have..

Hipocrisy much?


One election.. in one fucking state ... is not a "trend"... and you making this out to be some sort of "mandate" is ludicrous...

This only further only illustrates just how far your cranium is up the DNC's ass... so far up there that your head is full of shit.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:05 pm

Monker wrote:Nope....Trump = bad, almost everybody else = better.


Candidates, like Gillespie, are part of the old Republican guard. Wasn't a credible populist messenger. And again, it's a blue state. NJ going Democrat after Christie is also not surprising. After being wrong on everything here ('Hillary is a shoo-in and had permission to break the law!!!'), it sounds like you are desperate to find any results to confirm your viewpoint.

Monker wrote:Nope. That's what a Bernie fan like you would do.


The opposition party nearly always makes headway against an incumbent president's party. You must be new to politics. 12+ wins by a Democratic Socialists, on the other hand, actually IS interesting. In some cases, they beat the two party system. Sounds like something an independent would be posting about. But again, your claims of being an independent are false. You are here to carry water for the DNC.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:06 pm

slucero wrote:
Voters are lied to all the time by politicians.

The double standard of your hate is hilarious... you come off like an idiot pretending to be a moron....

HRC's lies don't bother you that much.. nor does the coincidental trail of bodies she and Billy Jeff have left in their political wake...

andn yet all Trump has done is lie... just like HRC, Obama, GWB and all the POTUS before them have..

Hipocrisy much?


One election.. in one fucking state ... is not a "trend"... and you making this out to be some sort of "mandate" is ludicrous...

This only further only illustrates just how far your cranium is up the DNC's ass... so far up there that your head is full of shit.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:11 pm

Monker wrote:Trans woman Danica Roem beat ant-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall, becoming the first trans state legislator in America. Also Bob Marshall wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill.

This election turned its back on Trump and his hate issues.


Trump has appointed gay men in his administration (Rich Grenell) and had openly gay, Peter Thiel, speak at his convention. He is the first GOP candidate to ever have a gay man speak at the convention. Trump is actually the most pro-gay Republican candidate in history. You are a fool.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:16 pm

Monker wrote:Nobody cares about this Clinton crap you are going on about. The voters were LIED to by Trump and they do NOT like it. Tax reform was supposed to go to the middle class...but that isn't what is proposed. Trump advocated UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, but that is not what was proposed - after multiple tries. During the campaign Trump told people what they wanted to hear, but it was all LIES to get him elected. Once elected, he threw everything to congress for McConnell and Ryan to get done....Well, they do not believe in the LIBERAL healthcare and tax policies of Trump....and that is not what they will propose or pass.


The majority of posters in this thread ARE Trump voters. You are now going to speak for us?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:24 pm

Time for a new game….

Monker vs. Donna Brazille - Can you tell the difference?

Donna Brazille: “WikiLeaks sought to divide us. These were active measures where you got to see the things I gave to Hillary, you never got a chance to see the things I gave to Bernie or Martin O'Malley."

Monker: “They leaked Brazille's Emails with Clinton...but did they leak Brazille's Emails with Sanders? Nope. So, YOU DON'T KNOW....you only know HALF the story. She could have said the EXACT SAME THING to Sanders, keeping things fair.”


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:26 am

Time for a new game….

Monker vs. Donna Brazille - Can you tell the difference?

Donna Brazille: “WikiLeaks sought to divide us. These were active measures where you got to see the things I gave to Hillary, you never got a chance to see the things I gave to Bernie or Martin O'Malley."

Monker: “They leaked Brazille's Emails with Clinton...but did they leak Brazille's Emails with Sanders? Nope. So, YOU DON'T KNOW....you only know HALF the story. She could have said the EXACT SAME THING to Sanders, keeping things fair.”


Keep squawking parrot.


You are so lame. Below is the post that started it all. I SAID I HEARD HER SAY THESE THINGS ON AN INTERVIEW, to show my opinion of WikiLeaks. Then YOU for MONTHS go on about how I was defending Brazille...which was never the point of my post. NOW that she is some kinda Trump darling because she has been negative towards Clinton...you are twisting my words around AGAIN to say I was parroting her. You are such an unbelievable liar.

No, because it is one sided propaganda. Let's take Brazille. She had an interview where she basically said, "You have only seen one half of the story. There is this other stack of Emails over here that nobody has seen...and I can't comment on them due to privacy."

So, tell me, how do you know that Brazille did not have the exact same conversations with people working with Bernie Sanders? So, both sides knew what to expect and would have full and complete answers to the questions making it a more informative debate...which was HER JOB?

Now, I don't know if any of that is true. But, I do know that WikiLeaks is one sided propaganda and Assange has had a hatred towards the Clintons since the 90's...though he won't admit it.

So, I ignore it, and don't even comment on it. Assange is a criminal and should be treated like one.


The above was in response to you whining that I do not read WikiLeaks. I used what Donna Brazille said to show they only give HALF the story. That is why I do not read WikiLeaks or take anything they say seriously.

I was NOT defending Donna Brazille. I was paraphrasing what she said in the interview I heard from her. And, that interview was MONTHS ago - LONG before this latest book came out.

Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would have known Donna Brazille said these things LONG ago and not just now after her book came out. Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would have known I said I saw an interview with her and was paraphrasing her. Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would not be talking from a position of ignorance.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:28 am

Only someone complete ignorant would equate trans to being gay.

I brought this up because the bathroom bill was debated here for a month or so.

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Monker wrote:Trans woman Danica Roem beat ant-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall, becoming the first trans state legislator in America. Also Bob Marshall wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill.

This election turned its back on Trump and his hate issues.


Trump has appointed gay men in his administration (Rich Grenell) and had openly gay, Peter Thiel, speak at his convention. He is the first GOP candidate to ever have a gay man speak at the convention. Trump is actually the most pro-gay Republican candidate in history. You are a fool.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:16 am

Since there's talk here about last Tuesday's election results, I thought I would post this video from Lionel on the subject. In it he talks about people mainly Dems being irrational about what the NJ\VA results mean. In addition, like it or not, he talks about Trump and the fact that he's got some issues to tackle and it's showing in his approval ratings. In my opinion he needs to get focused. Also he talks about the GOP needing to get their act together and the Dems better get a platform and message other then the "hate Trump" that they have been pushing forever now. In short it seems to me Lionel's points are on the mark and realistic.

Why Democrats Are 'Irrationally Exuberant' at Their Peril Yet Again Over the VA/NJ Election Results
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:31 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Step by step Boomchild.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-roo ... testimony/


Here's the issue K.C.. JW has been filing FOIA lawsuits for forever. Even all through Obama's eight years. The problem is that it hasn't really effected how our government operates. Sure it may shock and appall the public but that's about all it has done. In another post here I said that Trump needs to get focused. One of the things he needs to do is replace Sessions. He better do it sooner then later. The longer Sessions is AG the more frustrated people like myself are going to be with Trump. I don't know about you, but I went into this giving Trump a very "short leash".
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:45 am

Monker wrote:You are so lame. Below is the post that started it all. I SAID I HEARD HER SAY THESE THINGS ON AN INTERVIEW, to show my opinion of WikiLeaks.


I wasn't quoting that post. The fact is, you have repeated DNC spin line-for-line countless times - there is alot of posts to choose from. Thanks for admitting that you were just brainlessly repeating a Donna Brazille interview like a brainless zombie. Next up, maybe you can find those mysterious emails proving Hillary had permission to use a private server? :lol:

Monker wrote:Then YOU for MONTHS go on about how I was defending Brazille...which was never the point of my post.


Of course it is. Wikileaks released thousands upon thousands of DNC emails. To say they are being selective in the release of their emails flies in the face of their track record. They engage in mass data dumps.

Monker wrote:NOW that she is some kinda Trump darling because she has been negative towards Clinton...you are twisting my words around AGAIN to say I was parroting her. You are such an unbelievable liar.


No need to twist. Your quote(s) speaks for itself.

Monker wrote:The above was in response to you whining that I do not read WikiLeaks. I used what Donna Brazille said to show they only give HALF the story. That is why I do not read WikiLeaks or take anything they say seriously.


Thousands of emails = half of a story? Do you have any proof that emails were held back? Why doesn't Donna release them? They don't exist. Period.

Monker wrote:I was NOT defending Donna Brazille. I was paraphrasing what she said in the interview I heard from her. And, that interview was MONTHS ago - LONG before this latest book came out.


MONTHS ago she was the interim chair of the DNC. So like I said, you are on here to repeat DNC propaganda. Months ago, you were also on here defending Debbie Wasserman's rigged TV debate schedule.

Monker wrote:Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would have known Donna Brazille said these things LONG ago and not just now after her book came out. Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would have known I said I saw an interview with her and was paraphrasing her. Perhaps if you paid closer attention you would not be talking from a position of ignorance.


I wasn't quoting her book. The book has NOTHING to do with anything in this post.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:49 am

Monker wrote:Only someone complete ignorant would equate trans to being gay.


You were the one who mentioned LGBTQ (post below). I guess you don't know what the G stands for. You are a fucking clown. :roll:



Monker wrote:Trans woman Danica Roem beat ant-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall, becoming the first trans state legislator in America. Also Bob Marshall wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill.

This election turned its back on Trump and his hate issues.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:45 am

"I help people follow the rules." -- an attorney friend of mine describing her job.

I don't think Trump even knows the rules that he is supposed to follow.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:39 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:Only someone complete ignorant would equate trans to being gay.


You were the one who mentioned LGBTQ (post below). I guess you don't know what the G stands for. You are a fucking clown. :roll:


Yes, within the CONTEXT of a trans woman winning an election....defeating the guy who wrote the bathroom bill. Context is something you completely ignore nowadays.



Monker wrote:Trans woman Danica Roem beat ant-LGBTQ candidate Bob Marshall, becoming the first trans state legislator in America. Also Bob Marshall wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:41 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Monker wrote:"I help people follow the rules." -- an attorney friend of mine describing her job.

I don't think Trump even knows the rules that he is supposed to follow.


Not like Obama. The rule of stuff your pockets and screw the people. Lie your ass off to protect the system. The same system YOU defend. After all that has been exposed about Democrats, you still harp on something that Clinton paid to fabricate. FICTION.


What lie have I told?

You're right, Trump doesn't lie like Obama. Trump is pathological. Even if all the lies you believe Obama told happened, that equates to about a week or so in Trump's pathological life.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:43 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Step by step Boomchild.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-roo ... testimony/


Here's the issue K.C.. JW has been filing FOIA lawsuits for forever. Even all through Obama's eight years. The problem is that it hasn't really effected how our government operates. Sure it may shock and appall the public but that's about all it has done. In another post here I said that Trump needs to get focused. One of the things he needs to do is replace Sessions. He better do it sooner then later. The longer Sessions is AG the more frustrated people like myself are going to be with Trump. I don't know about you, but I went into this giving Trump a very "short leash".

It won't shock me if Sessions job last about as long as Trumps trip. And what a OUTSTANDING JOB Trump is doing on this trip.


The fallout from firing will be huge. It won't happen.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:08 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:You are so lame. Below is the post that started it all. I SAID I HEARD HER SAY THESE THINGS ON AN INTERVIEW, to show my opinion of WikiLeaks.


I wasn't quoting that post. The fact is, you have repeated DNC spin line-for-line countless times


That is bullshit.

- there is alot of posts to choose from.


Bullshit again.

Thanks for admitting that you were just brainlessly repeating a Donna Brazille interview like a brainless zombie.


Bullshit again. I had a very specific logical reason for using that example. You just don't like it.

And, this is now your THIRD argument against me talking Brizille and WikiLeaks.

Monker wrote:Then YOU for MONTHS go on about how I was defending Brazille...which was never the point of my post.


Of course it is.


Go back and read the quote I posted. It was in DIRECT RESPONSE to questioning why I do not read WikiLeaks. I say it is biased bullshit with an agenda....and I was using Brazille's words as an example. I do not care if she is fired by the DNC or CNN, or if her book sells or fails. I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT.

Wikileaks released thousands upon thousands of DNC emails. To say they are being selective in the release of their emails flies in the face of their track record. They engage in mass data dumps.


Yeah, "dumps" is a good word for them. One sided bullshit with an agenda is another.

Monker wrote:The above was in response to you whining that I do not read WikiLeaks. I used what Donna Brazille said to show they only give HALF the story. That is why I do not read WikiLeaks or take anything they say seriously.


Thousands of emails = half of a story?


YES. Did you read what Brazille said to the other candidates? Do you have ANY idea what those conversations were? No, you don't. Therefore, you only know half the story. That is the fact.

Do you have any proof that emails were held back? Why doesn't Donna release them? They don't exist. Period.


You are now saying she had no Email conversations with the other candidates. That is just illogical and nuts.


Monker wrote:I was NOT defending Donna Brazille. I was paraphrasing what she said in the interview I heard from her. And, that interview was MONTHS ago - LONG before this latest book came out.


MONTHS ago she was the interim chair of the DNC.[/quote]

I don't think she was when I wrote that original post.

So like I said, you are on here to repeat DNC propaganda. Months ago, you were also on here defending Debbie Wasserman's rigged TV debate schedule.


Yep...because having two dozen debates was FAR too many in past elections. Six seems like a much better number, and that was moved up to nine. People stop caring when there are so many debates, I do anyway. I also believe scheduling three of them on weekends having fewer viewer is way exaggerated. Nowadays the highlights show up repeatedly on all types of news and on Youtube. On top of all of that, the candidates who are behind ALWAYS want more debates and whine about these things. It happens in EVERY election I have seen. So, NO, I do not believe the debate scheduled was "rigged" for Clinton. I believe Clinton was ahead and the others had to whine about it.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:15 pm

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Step by step Boomchild.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-roo ... testimony/


Here's the issue K.C.. JW has been filing FOIA lawsuits for forever. Even all through Obama's eight years.


Exactly....all it does is wind up people like KC.

The problem is that it hasn't really effected how our government operates. Sure it may shock and appall the public but that's about all it has done.


I don't think it even does that....MOST people don't even pay attention to such things.

In another post here I said that Trump needs to get focused. One of the things he needs to do is replace Sessions. He better do it sooner then later. The longer Sessions is AG the more frustrated people like myself are going to be with Trump. I don't know about you, but I went into this giving Trump a very "short leash".


Firing Sessions won't happened because he fired Comey. IMO, to get any nominee past congress he will have to recluse himself from the Russia investigation. And, he'll probably be drilled about following these crazy conspiracy theories. IMO, Trump will NOT get an AG of the type who will go on errands for Trump, like chasing chasing conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:53 pm

This article showed up in my Facebook today. I decided to post it here because, well, it felt appropriate.

This happened, and was written, back in January 2015. It was before the conterprotesting of Nazi's. It was before Charlottesville. Before Antifa and Indivisible. It was before the woman's march. It was before the protests of Trump's victory.

It was after Westboro church made it known they were going to protest outside Des Moines East High School, because a judge ruled it was legal to use the flag in various ways of protest. Well, Westboro decided to fuck with the wrong community. They stirred up a hornets nest of community pride, values, ethics, and unity.

Nobody prompted these kids to do this. I know because my son was a senior at the time. It was their idea to counter protest. Westboro's beliefs are so counter to what this community represents that even high school kids knew the best thing was to make their values known and drown out the protest. It became such a big deal that Westboro, IMO, was afraid to show up.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /22368067/

Westboro skips East High picket, hundreds counter-protest
MacKenzie Elmer, melmer@dmreg.com Published 3:35 p.m. CT Jan. 26, 2015 | Updated 10:07 p.m. CT Jan. 26, 2015

Westboro Baptist Church members didn't show up for their planned picket Monday outside East High School in Des Moines, but that didn't stop hundreds of high school students from forming a counter-protest.

About seven members of the controversial group picketed at the Iowa State Capitol building as part of their "Iowa Flag Stomp Tour," but none showed up for the second hour-long planned protest at the high school on East 13th Street. A Westboro representative said she didn't know why the group called off the second protest.

"(Youth) have no hope, no future, then they're sent off to the killing fields of Afghanistan and Iraq and the streets of America," said Rachel Hockenbarger, a Westboro member. "We discovered that because we went and looked into their faces. …(The youth) deserve tears and truth. We're happy to do that job."

Westboro's presence in Iowa was spurred by a federal judge's decision in December to strike down two state laws forbidding desecration of the American flag. The church tweeted pictures and video of members stepping on the flag during other protests using the hashtag #IowaFlagStompTour.

"You can use the flag expressively and it's protected by the first amendment," Hockenbarger said, adding — unprompted — that the church has never committed any acts of terrorism or violence.

The church was founded in Topeka, Kan., and has drawn criticism for its pickets at funerals and beliefs on homosexuality.

Students from five area high schools, members of Des Moines' Experience Church and others stood on school ground at noon, waiting for Westboro members to take the public sidewalk which surrounds the parking lot. But they never showed.

"I'm here and I'm queer. They're straight and they're late," shouted one student into a megaphone.

Students chanted "Des Moines Loves" and held signs saying "I love gay people and so does God." Members of a biker gang named 515 followed Westboro to the Capitol then drove the school parking lot's perimeter, revving their engines.

"We hope to drown them out," said 515 member Ralph Young, 46, a war veteran from Des Moines. "They're standing there walking around on the American flag, with their feet, and then throwing it on the ground. All my brothers and sisters did not die for this."

The throng surged as more students chose to spend their lunch break at the picket line. At one point, students flooded East 12th and Walker Streets, blocking traffic. Some students danced on top of their car.

"A lot of people are telling us to just ignore them, but I think to make a positive statement says a lot about our community that we can gather here and be peaceful," said Camille Juarez, a senior at East High School.

Matthew Smith, chief of schools for the Des Moines district, said it's the first time he's seen students come together like this during the five years he's been at the district.

"It's not Des Moines school sponsored, but the kids do it in such a manner that they want to be involved and active in their community," Smith said. "When there's a potential of a protest arriving on our campus, such as the one at Westboro Church, it was incredibly exciting to see our students rally around that."

Westboro made stops in Bettendorf and Davenport over the weekend, including a stop at West High School in Davenport on Monday morning. Davenport police officials said about seven Westboro protesters were greeted by about 100 counter-protesters without any incidents.
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