def wrote:I only ordered the book because i hope there is some info about the Bad Englisch years. For no other reason...
lparn wrote:I had ordered the kindle version of the book for $10
Just recieved an email stating it was cancelled by the publisher
tj wrote:lparn wrote:I had ordered the kindle version of the book for $10
Just recieved an email stating it was cancelled by the publisher
That seems odd. I would think that Kindle books are much more profitable, even at $10. What is the hardcover selling for?
tater1977 wrote:...It was originally supposed to be a farewell with four or five gigs just to say goodbye. Then Neal had the idea of making an album [laughing]! We had to coax Steve into it, but when the three of us got around the piano, the ideas were coming just like in the old days.[/b]
tater1977 wrote:
We haven’t given up on making a new CD; it’s just that the market has changed so much. We have to be careful when making a new offering. We have to map it out, so it makes sense economically. Bands burn money! They are money burning machines [laughing] I’m encouraged that we can do one. I think Neal and I are going to have to rope Arnel in. We know what we need to do. I have been making Christian music, and it has given me a mastery of putting things together. When I come to the studio, I have everything arranged and ready to go. If we apply that approach, we should be able to knock things out in a week or two. That is why I think we have to be a little organized about the recording.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:tater1977 wrote:
We haven’t given up on making a new CD; it’s just that the market has changed so much. We have to be careful when making a new offering. We have to map it out, so it makes sense economically. Bands burn money! They are money burning machines [laughing] I’m encouraged that we can do one. I think Neal and I are going to have to rope Arnel in. We know what we need to do. I have been making Christian music, and it has given me a mastery of putting things together. When I come to the studio, I have everything arranged and ready to go. If we apply that approach, we should be able to knock things out in a week or two. That is why I think we have to be a little organized about the recording.
Part of me thinks Jon is just saying these things to lead Journey fans on and make them buy his book.
Regarding his producing/ engineering skills... I haven't bought his recent religious solo albums so I can't comment on that. At this point, a sonically inferior Journey album is better than no Journey album.
JourneyHard wrote:Anyhow, I have a bad feeling about the new album. It might be the first Journey album without Neal Schon.
PianoMan1986 wrote:TNC, what are your thoughts on the line "I think Neal and I are going to have to rope Arnel in" regarding a new album/project? Just curious...
The_Noble_Cause wrote:JourneyHard wrote:Anyhow, I have a bad feeling about the new album. It might be the first Journey album without Neal Schon.
As Neal is really the only person in the current lineup wanting to do new music, this is pretty much impossible.
JourneyHard wrote:What I mean is Jon is saying how he wants to take Journey is a new direction or something. What does he mean? Is he going to make Journey into a Christian Rock Band? If so, Neal will be gone so fast. Jon can pump out these Christian albums really fast. He could make a Journey Rock Album really fast. That is my thinking.
And what does Jon mean about "rope Arnel in?" Neal is the one he has to "rope in" and stop all his long guitar solos on all the new songs. But if Jon tries that, Neal is gone so fast.
It is funny how Jon thinks Journey's management is doing a great job. Jon is very talented writing music and performing, but his business skills are zero. For the record, Journey's management is horrible. Another tour with Def Leppard is the best they can come up with? Really?
Journey should be touring solo. They are that good that they should be a huge draw alone. But if they want to tour with somebody else, I would love to see them with Pat Benatar, or Bad Company, or Whitesnake or somebody different.
A new Journey album should allow Neal to jam as much as he wants. Anything else is just another Raised on Radio. I feel better now that I got all of this off my chest.
JourneyHard wrote:Promise a new album and then sit back and watch the fans go wild.
verslibre wrote:JourneyHard wrote:Promise a new album and then sit back and watch the fans go wild.
All 1758 of them. How the mighty have fallen.
verslibre wrote:
All 1758 of them. How the mighty have fallen.
JourneyHard wrote:For the record, Jonathan Cain and Neal Schon are both not good businessmen. Herbie Herbert will tell you the same thing. They are awesome at what they do which is write songs and perform the songs. Nobody is better at that. But I just want to know who their management is. Perhaps they are their own management. I don't know.
steveo777 wrote:verslibre wrote:JourneyHard wrote:Promise a new album and then sit back and watch the fans go wild.
All 1758 of them. How the mighty have fallen.
I had those kinds of thoughts last time we took my sister to see Dave Mason/The Doobie brothers/Journey. The venue held 18,500 and when Mason opened, the place was less than 1/4 full. My sister was like, not many people here, is Journey still relevant? By the time The Doobies came on, it was about half full. Once Journey hit the stage, the place was full to the gills. So, out of that lineup, Journey was still the main attraction. Now an album, that might be a different story.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:
All 1758 of them. How the mighty have fallen.
Compared to what? Styx? Boston? Foreigner? All of their peers are pretty much in the same boat.
verslibre wrote:
BOC I have more respect for because of their "fuck it, we're old, we're on tour forever" attitude. Don't expect new music from them. Their fan base goes to see them at casinos, fairs and small theaters, and they're good with it. Controversy isn't an element in their daily existence. Plus, they still have both their original lead vocalists, one of whom is their lead guitarist. And their music kicks ass.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:
BOC I have more respect for because of their "fuck it, we're old, we're on tour forever" attitude. Don't expect new music from them. Their fan base goes to see them at casinos, fairs and small theaters, and they're good with it. Controversy isn't an element in their daily existence. Plus, they still have both their original lead vocalists, one of whom is their lead guitarist. And their music kicks ass.
While I like and respect BOC, they are not remotely in the same league as Journey or Foreigner. Additionally, BOC is on record saying they are going to release new music.
verslibre wrote:As far as album and concert ticket sales? No. But their thematic and musical repertoire is richer, and they have a boatload more albums than Journey, Boston and Foreigner to enjoy, too.
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