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Cassie May wrote:http://styxworld.com/news/news/453020/a-styxworld-exclusive-secret-secret-i-ve-got-a-sec
Article on Styxworld. Fans are going ballistic in several groups on Facebook. Most pro for adding the song, some asking "WHY??? I hate that song!", and a little of the usual rhetoric of "Bring back DDY!"
StyxGuy wrote:So the song they refused to play for 20 years, they're finally digging out?
Well, holy fuck.
masque wrote:StyxGuy wrote:So the song they refused to play for 20 years, they're finally digging out?
Well, holy fuck.
you know when I think about it.....I dont ever really recall any of them saying that actually disliked the song Mr. Roboto.
TS said he struggled with the concept and having to write songs about robots to fit DDY's concept.
JY struggled with DDY's vision of doing a theatre tour while spending tons of money instead of playing enormo-domes.
TS struggled with the coming on stage and acting a part at the texas jam.
BUT, I dont recall any of them ever saying "hey that roboto song......it sucks!!!".
so maybe, just maybe, after nearly 35 years, one of them was sitting around and said, "hey you know that robot song we did on kilroy, it aint too bad, maybe for shits and giggles we ought to dust that one off and put it in the set for the new tour?"
more power to em. pretty cool decision I think.
StyxGuy wrote:masque wrote:StyxGuy wrote:So the song they refused to play for 20 years, they're finally digging out?
Well, holy fuck.
you know when I think about it.....I dont ever really recall any of them saying that actually disliked the song Mr. Roboto.
TS said he struggled with the concept and having to write songs about robots to fit DDY's concept.
JY struggled with DDY's vision of doing a theatre tour while spending tons of money instead of playing enormo-domes.
TS struggled with the coming on stage and acting a part at the texas jam.
BUT, I dont recall any of them ever saying "hey that roboto song......it sucks!!!".
so maybe, just maybe, after nearly 35 years, one of them was sitting around and said, "hey you know that robot song we did on kilroy, it aint too bad, maybe for shits and giggles we ought to dust that one off and put it in the set for the new tour?"
more power to em. pretty cool decision I think.
Yes, very true. I just seem to recall interviews with them being asked and the response was "yeah, but we have all of these other songs people want to hear" from Tommy and JY, while Larry would just say "I'll play whatever they want, the catalogue has so many great tunes!"
According to their write-up, Dennis was the only one who ever performed the song live, the rest was a backing track. This meant that they never actually rehearsed Roboto to perform it live.
Even "crazier" is that it was JY who said "let's do this, it seems like fans continually ask for it from the feedback I'm getting"
I'll be happy to see them perform it when they come to Toronto (hopefully it's in every show). Just always felt as if that song was never going to be played by the current lineup, so it's quite a plea sent surprise
Boomchild wrote:Some of the comments in this thread crack me up. They appear like PR spin. Even though TS and JY may not have come out and literally said it, they wanted nothing to do with KWH post DDY's ousting. They made it clear that it wasn't the kind of thing Styx should have been doing. They clearly were intent in giving people the impression of "don't blame us for Roboto and KWH that was all DeYoung".
gr8dane wrote:Where in TO are you StyxGuy. ??
masque wrote:Boomchild wrote:Some of the comments in this thread crack me up. They appear like PR spin. Even though TS and JY may not have come out and literally said it, they wanted nothing to do with KWH post DDY's ousting. They made it clear that it wasn't the kind of thing Styx should have been doing. They clearly were intent in giving people the impression of "don't blame us for Roboto and KWH that was all DeYoung".
as for me, there is no PR spin.......to me, i think it simply boils down to that 35 years later things that seemed so important then maybe aren't as important now. things that bothered you then, time mellows your position a little.
hell, for all we know, they are simply doing it, to cause a damn uproar between the two camps of fans, which they are succeeding at.
I wouldnt place roboto in my top 20 styx songs, but I would certainly be happier about hearing it than babe.
when this version of styx starts doing babe, then we can know that the reunion is imminent.
StyxCollector wrote:masque wrote:Boomchild wrote:Some of the comments in this thread crack me up. They appear like PR spin. Even though TS and JY may not have come out and literally said it, they wanted nothing to do with KWH post DDY's ousting. They made it clear that it wasn't the kind of thing Styx should have been doing. They clearly were intent in giving people the impression of "don't blame us for Roboto and KWH that was all DeYoung".
as for me, there is no PR spin.......to me, i think it simply boils down to that 35 years later things that seemed so important then maybe aren't as important now. things that bothered you then, time mellows your position a little.
hell, for all we know, they are simply doing it, to cause a damn uproar between the two camps of fans, which they are succeeding at.
I wouldnt place roboto in my top 20 styx songs, but I would certainly be happier about hearing it than babe.
when this version of styx starts doing babe, then we can know that the reunion is imminent.
I gave you proof of some PR spin above in the interview I linked. Boomchild is right - has everyone forgotten the BTM? Look, they didn't want to do another concept album, and definitely not one about robots. The fact Side 2 of KWH is awesome aside, it was not something they all loved. Dennis has said it was a mistake in hindsight, and Roboto wasn't going to be the single (which was a hit but alienated some of the old audience), etc.
They didn't do Roboto in 96 or 97 when it would have been smart to do, and as I said above, Todd and Glen had to force it into medleys. It was the only way they'd do any bit of it.
Rocked up, be it Styx or DDY, it's a fun live tune. Looks, if they are taking the piss or a stab at DDY (and I have ZERO proof of that nor do I think it), it's their business.
IMO you'll see BoT long before Babe (which they did do in Japan many moons ago with Gowan). If you see that, it's not indicative of a reunion. It's just smart business. Play your hits regardless of who wrote them.
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Styx played Mr. Roboto for the first time live last night on the opening night of their summer tour. When it was played in 1984 on the Kilroy tour the music was on tape and only the lead vocal was live so this is the fist time Styx (as far as I know) ever played the song live! It is the first song on the encore. Full Roboto visuals to go with it.
masque wrote:fantastic job! cool to see that one added.
masque wrote:StyxGuy wrote:So the song they refused to play for 20 years, they're finally digging out?
Well, holy fuck.
you know when I think about it.....I dont ever really recall any of them saying that actually disliked the song Mr. Roboto.
TS said he struggled with the concept and having to write songs about robots to fit DDY's concept.
JY struggled with DDY's vision of doing a theatre tour while spending tons of money instead of playing enormo-domes.
TS struggled with the coming on stage and acting a part at the texas jam.
BUT, I dont recall any of them ever saying "hey that roboto song......it sucks!!!".
so maybe, just maybe, after nearly 35 years, one of them was sitting around and said, "hey you know that robot song we did on kilroy, it aint too bad, maybe for shits and giggles we ought to dust that one off and put it in the set for the new tour?"
more power to em. pretty cool decision I think.
StyxCollector wrote:There are quite a few interviews over the years where they feel that the kitsch of Roboto detracted from things like what they did that rocked. Here's an interview with Gowan that talks about this directly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5oKtCzsHXQ
That song became/was the lightning rod for a lot of things. Both Todd and Glen had to force them to put it in the medleys. But no matter; they've gotten over it, which is good.
The irony? It's pretty close to the way DDY rocked it up. I laughed a little at this comment on the Styx site
"Tommy found a cover of it by another act online that let us know it could be more muscled up, so that’s what we did."
and
"Adding that song in makes it an even more well-rounded set. There’s something for everyone. And the production value of all of it is pretty great too."
Like I said, happy they are doing it, it comes off well.
Hell has *almost* frozen over.
Boomchild wrote:Some of the comments in this thread crack me up. They appear like PR spin. Even though TS and JY may not have come out and literally said it, they wanted nothing to do with KWH post DDY's ousting. They made it clear that it wasn't the kind of thing Styx should have been doing. They clearly were intent in giving people the impression of "don't blame us for Roboto and KWH that was all DeYoung".
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I think Gowan did a very good job. Not sure what all the hate is about.
Toph wrote:ChicagoSTYX wrote:Styx played Mr. Roboto for the first time live last night on the opening night of their summer tour. When it was played in 1984 on the Kilroy tour the music was on tape and only the lead vocal was live so this is the fist time Styx (as far as I know) ever played the song live! It is the first song on the encore. Full Roboto visuals to go with it.
The same song that you've said for many years sucks? OK, cool. Now that Styx plays it, you're on board. Hypocrite.
Toph wrote:StyxCollector wrote:There are quite a few interviews over the years where they feel that the kitsch of Roboto detracted from things like what they did that rocked. Here's an interview with Gowan that talks about this directly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5oKtCzsHXQ
That song became/was the lightning rod for a lot of things. Both Todd and Glen had to force them to put it in the medleys. But no matter; they've gotten over it, which is good.
The irony? It's pretty close to the way DDY rocked it up. I laughed a little at this comment on the Styx site
"Tommy found a cover of it by another act online that let us know it could be more muscled up, so that’s what we did."
and
"Adding that song in makes it an even more well-rounded set. There’s something for everyone. And the production value of all of it is pretty great too."
Like I said, happy they are doing it, it comes off well.
Hell has *almost* frozen over.
Hypocrite #3
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