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Ehwmatt wrote:I finished the book last night. Pretty good, but I was surprised at how little detail there was about Toto's songs, tours, and songwriting experiences.
Ehwmatt wrote:I finished the book last night. Pretty good, but I was surprised at how little detail there was about Toto's songs, tours, and songwriting experiences.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I finished the book last night. Pretty good, but I was surprised at how little detail there was about Toto's songs, tours, and songwriting experiences.
That sucks. I didn't pick it up yet. I actually still have Jonathan Cain's book collecting dust on my night stand. I'm guess the book is more a collection of studio session stories?
r@y wrote:No one would ever know the hit Danger Zone was actually arranged by Luke and Paich, with Joe on vocals ! That is the version Kenny sings on.
tj wrote:Not quite halfway through the book, but found it interesting that they would have considered Richard Page to replace Kimball. I love Page's writing, playing and singing, but with the issues Luke describes of Kimball and others having such a hard time with the high range of the material, Page doesn't seem like he would have been a good good fit for the high parts.
brandonx76 wrote:There's ALOT of Toto history here even the more recent stuff (ex: Keith Carlock).
Andrew wrote:Brilliant. But next I need the audio book!
One of the best reads by any musician.
tj wrote:Not quite halfway through the book, but found it interesting that they would have considered Richard Page to replace Kimball. I love Page's writing, playing and singing, but with the issues Luke describes of Kimball and others having such a hard time with the high range of the material, Page doesn't seem like he would have been a good good fit for the high parts.
JohnH wrote:And the book confirms what someone here speculated- Simon was not brought back as a shareholder in 2010 - and wanted more say in the business- so he left. Simon described it in a podcast as “things change”.
JohnH wrote:And the book confirms what someone here speculated- Simon was not brought back as a shareholder in 2010 - and wanted more say in the business- so he left. Simon described it in a podcast as “things change”.
Morten wrote:It's a pretty good read. Personally I would have loved tons more of the session stories, but I suppose the general public would find that less interesting. The book would have benefited from better editing and proofreading here and there -- there are a few typos that could easily have been avoided. (Bill Schnee's nickname is "Schnalien" (a pun on "alien"), not "Schnellien", and Donald Fagen's last name is, well, Fagen, not Fagan -- to name just a couple.) Also, the discography at the end could have done without a lot of "Greatest Hits" and "Best of" collections that don't contain any new tracks (Olivia Newton-John, The Tubes, Al Jarreau, Don Henley, Melissa Manchester, Chicago ...).
There is one strange error: In ch. 12, he says that he took his sister Lori to the Grammys in 1984 because he was divorced. But he wasn't divorced in 1984 -- he and Marie married in 1981, and she filed for divorce around the time that the band recorded the new tracks with Byron (ch. 19).
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Morten wrote:It's a pretty good read. Personally I would have loved tons more of the session stories, but I suppose the general public would find that less interesting. The book would have benefited from better editing and proofreading here and there -- there are a few typos that could easily have been avoided. (Bill Schnee's nickname is "Schnalien" (a pun on "alien"), not "Schnellien", and Donald Fagen's last name is, well, Fagen, not Fagan -- to name just a couple.) Also, the discography at the end could have done without a lot of "Greatest Hits" and "Best of" collections that don't contain any new tracks (Olivia Newton-John, The Tubes, Al Jarreau, Don Henley, Melissa Manchester, Chicago ...).
There is one strange error: In ch. 12, he says that he took his sister Lori to the Grammys in 1984 because he was divorced. But he wasn't divorced in 1984 -- he and Marie married in 1981, and she filed for divorce around the time that the band recorded the new tracks with Byron (ch. 19).
On the first few pages of Cain's book, they refer to Neal as "Neil." Aren't editors supposed to catch this stuff?
JohnH wrote:And the book confirms what someone here speculated- Simon was not brought back as a shareholder in 2010 - and wanted more say in the business- so he left. Simon described it in a podcast as “things change”.
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