youkeepmewaiting wrote:Trump loves the bible...
Of course he does. He thinks he wrote it and is the main dude in the new Testament.
Moderator: Andrew
youkeepmewaiting wrote:Trump loves the bible...
verslibre wrote:Dow, S&P, Nasdaq...everything's down, and is still going down, after Klump told American companies to find alternative sources (read: not from China).
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/23/us-stocks-wall-street-monitors-speech-from-fed-chair-jerome-powell.html
This will be his legacy.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:No one wants to answer this?
Sure, I'll bite. The more incoherent and the more stream of consciousness Trump becomes, the more likely he is to win in 2020. You hear "embarrassment" and "bullshit." To many Americans, they hear a guy talking without a filter and giving zero fucks. I know several females who thought the "grab em by the pussy" comment was perfectly normal. Discussing Trump's verbal diarrhea is a losing issue.
Andrew wrote:Add the Fed chair to the bulbous one’s “enemy of the people” list.
What a stark raving lunatic.
And all American companies are to get out of China. He’s absolutely lost his fucking mind. What about your made in Gyna ties and Iwanka’s clothing line? Hypocrisy gone mad.
Andrew wrote:He has embraced North Korea, Russia and a few South American dictatorships.
Andrew wrote:He hasn’t taken on everyone. Just all former USA allies like the UK, EU, Germany and France, Denmark, Australia, Mexico and Canada, Japan...
He has embraced North Korea, Russia and a few South American dictatorships.
The friends the USA once had may not be so willing to assist in his temper tantrums.
Winning!
RPM wrote:Andrew wrote:He hasn’t taken on everyone. Just all former USA allies like the UK, EU, Germany and France, Denmark, Australia, Mexico and Canada, Japan...
He has embraced North Korea, Russia and a few South American dictatorships.
The friends the USA once had may not be so willing to assist in his temper tantrums.
Winning!
In my view the allies have been taking us for a ride for to long as well.
We now have them finally paying more of their fare share in NATO
Look at the facts Andrew,
More sanctions on Russia
none have been lifted on North Korea...
RPM wrote:In my view the allies have been taking us for a ride for to long as well.
We now have them finally paying more of their fare share in NATO
And we have a more favorable trade agreement with our North American
Partners.
Monker wrote:No country pays into NATO. That is just more Trump bullshit that you have bought into.
Monker wrote:A year ago Russia used chemical weapons. It is MANDATORY that sanctions be imposed. Trump delayed it over a year and it took an official written demand from congress for him to finally to do what he was REQUIRED TO DO. This isn't an example of being hard on Russia. It is an example of Trump wanting to be lenient toward Russia but congress not allowing him to.
Monker wrote:Oh, please. So, while Little Rocket Man goes about launching his rockets, Trump now ignores it and says he doesn't have an issue with it...maybe cuz they are in love? There is no change AT ALL in North Korea compared to when he entered office. None...Kim does what he wants.
Andrew wrote:And in today's G7 press conference, Bulbous One pitched for Russia's return to the G8, and ignored all questions on the annexing of Crimea - the issue that had them kicked out.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:No country pays into NATO. That is just more Trump bullshit that you have bought into.
Costs are shared based upon GDP. Trump is right. Most nations aren't even meeting the 2% goal.
Monker wrote:A year ago Russia used chemical weapons. It is MANDATORY that sanctions be imposed. Trump delayed it over a year and it took an official written demand from congress for him to finally to do what he was REQUIRED TO DO. This isn't an example of being hard on Russia. It is an example of Trump wanting to be lenient toward Russia but congress not allowing him to.
Additional sanctions were applied to Russia literally days ago. Pretty dishonest framing to cite something that happened a year ago with dubious evidence - the chemical weapons you mentioned weren't uniquely Russian. Just a month ago, we pulled out of a cold war-era treaty banning ground missiles. We are pretty much in a new cold war.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:And in today's G7 press conference, Bulbous One pitched for Russia's return to the G8, and ignored all questions on the annexing of Crimea - the issue that had them kicked out.
Russia should be at G8. Nobody cares about Crimea...a former Russian territory comprised of ethnic Russians whose people voted overwhelmingly to remain a part of Russia. Anybody grill Trump on the US annexing Texas or Hawaii? It seems imperialism is OK for some, not for others.
scarab wrote:How can the US buy anything at 21 Trillion dollars in debt? And growing exponentially.
I wonder if Trump can file bankruptcy for the US? He knows how to do it well.
Monker wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:And in today's G7 press conference, Bulbous One pitched for Russia's return to the G8, and ignored all questions on the annexing of Crimea - the issue that had them kicked out.
Russia should be at G8. Nobody cares about Crimea...a former Russian territory comprised of ethnic Russians whose people voted overwhelmingly to remain a part of Russia. Anybody grill Trump on the US annexing Texas or Hawaii? It seems imperialism is OK for some, not for others.
They "grilled Trump" over considering buying Greenland. Wonder how "they" would have reacted if he took it by force.
Monker wrote:You are just wrong. What you are describing here is called "common funding". It is the daily costs to keep NATO functioning...and is a relatively small part of the entirety of the NATO budget. There are other sources of funding, indirect funding, direct funding, and joint funding. These combined are the lions share of the NATO budget and essentially funded by member nations volunteering assets.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm
Monker wrote:Reread what you quoted. It is MANDATORY that more sanctions be made after chemical weapons were used.
Monker wrote:What your opinion is of it does not matter. Read the bipartisan letter that was sent to Trump...which I provided a link to in my other post. It was sent days before the announcement of more sanctions. He was REQUIRED to implement more sanctions. That is the way it is. He had no choice but to do what he did.
Andrew wrote:Russia took Crimea by force, with troops, guns and tanks. Any comparison is valid.
The majority of NATO members are failing to meet the 2% GDP goal on defense. That's just a fact - which even the NATO sec. general has acknowledged. Everything else - indirect, direct, joint - is irrelevant.
Monker wrote:Reread what you quoted. It is MANDATORY that more sanctions be made after chemical weapons were used.
There was never any definitive proof that the nerve agent came from Russia. Who are you going to sanction?
Monker wrote:What your opinion is of it does not matter. Read the bipartisan letter that was sent to Trump...which I provided a link to in my other post. It was sent days before the announcement of more sanctions. He was REQUIRED to implement more sanctions. That is the way it is. He had no choice but to do what he did.
Good on Trump for dragging his feet.
Andrew wrote:https://apple.news/AvQb7UrikSrOlvPGPIKqNAg
US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russian asset' or a 'useful idiot' for Putin
Monker wrote:So, you are in a discussion about how NATO is funded where you say the full description on how NATO is funded is irrelevent.
Monker wrote:As I said, your opinion doesn't matter. You do not have any power. This opinion matters:
Monker wrote:Trump's own Secretary of State disagreed with you - and HIS is the opinion that mattered and set this process in motion. And, BTW, the above snip is from a letter that is signed by BOTH the Democrat and Republican in charge of the House Foreign Affairs committee.
Monker wrote:Exactly...he drug his feet and these sanctions were not him being tough against Russia.
Monker wrote:And, you encourage the lawless action of Trump. This is why he NEEDS to be impeached...he is not a king who can do whatever he wishes, including ignoring the will of congress.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:https://apple.news/AvQb7UrikSrOlvPGPIKqNAg
US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russian asset' or a 'useful idiot' for Putin
Maybe someone should convene a carte blanche special investigation to look into this. Oh wait.....
The_Noble_Cause wrote:DOJ IG report makes it clear - Comey is a leaker. While memos weren't classified, they were confidential and contained sensitive info.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics ... index.html
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:As I said, your opinion doesn't matter. You do not have any power. This opinion matters:
I know you like to cite the opinions of government hacks like gospel.
Monker wrote:Trump's own Secretary of State disagreed with you - and HIS is the opinion that mattered and set this process in motion. And, BTW, the above snip is from a letter that is signed by BOTH the Democrat and Republican in charge of the House Foreign Affairs committee.
As if "bi-partisan consensus" means anything?
Monker wrote:Exactly...he drug his feet and these sanctions were not him being tough against Russia.
Not all sanctions are created equal.
Monker wrote:And, you encourage the lawless action of Trump. This is why he NEEDS to be impeached...he is not a king who can do whatever he wishes, including ignoring the will of congress.
Good luck!
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