atthistime wrote:Monker, don't let this upset you so. How you do carry on. We are all quite aware of your bitterness. Why is this all so personal to you? This is a rock and roll band and you make it sound like the Presidential Election. I suppose that you must find to so hard to accept the fact that someone you despise has so many loyal fans. Most everyone admires him so you few arn't a problem. It's all about the music and the world listens.
Monker wrote:PROPERRY wrote:LA Women and wakov, your posts are so dumb and childish. Talk about 12 year old mentality. Your views are more along the lines of an eight yr. old, no offence to the eight yr, old's.
And, you are in blatant violation of forum rules because you personaly attacked forum members. Not that this matters anyway.Again I ask, in regard to the question of "To Go, Or Not To Go," why should he want to honor some of you with his appearence?
#1. I'm not going to be there. So, he's not going to 'honor' me with anything.
#2. This is to honor JOURNEY, and I thought that you Perry fans insist that Perry is a part of Journey through his songwriting, that HE cherished his time in Journey, that HE was proud of his part in Journey's accomplishments.
I guess he only cares about his accomplishments in Journey when they can be sold to people and put $'s in his bank.
This is the FANS opportunity to honor JOURNEY, not the other way around.Read back over some of your posts within this thread. Shame on you for even expecting him to give you the time of day.
I don't want Perry to give ME anything. I am just saying that he acts in a VERY selfish way...he never gives of himself to fans unless there is something for him to gain. Maybe if Journey fans each paid him $20, as we would for a DVD, then maybe he'd show up.Not buy the next dvd? Horse manure. You know you'll buy it.
Yeah, I'll buy it whenever I decide to buy GHLive. But, I'll probably buy that horse manure first...at least I could use it in the garden.You few people are Journey fans at their worst. You're what he hopes to avoid.IMO
He's avoiding me? Wow, I'm like shocked and stuff.
He's avoiding his 'self', ALL of Journey's fans, and his own past with JourneyI'm right with you Marabelle & atthistime. It is Steve Perry's decision, NOT anyone elses to make for him, And I'm sure he will do what he feels is right for him!
Oh, no, but it's up to YOU to make up excuses for him...without any supporting evidence. Then you hypocrits attack others for DOING THE EXACT SAME THING.As I said before, I support whatever decision he makes on that issue.
Yeah, and if he decided to call Perry fans a bunch of hysterical freaks who follow his every move like a stalker in some Hitchcock film...would you support that?For anyone to say that "He should get over himself for 5 minutes",
He can't do it, it's not his nature. It's his nature to think of himself first and put everybody else in line behind him. Is that not obvious? He's has REPEATEDLY done this for the past 25yrs.It is totally rediculous how "some THINK they are so important" that they EXPECT OTHERS to do what "they want", rather than realize it is EVEYBODY'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT!!!
And, it's MY right to say that Perry is acting like a selfish bastard. If you Perry fans don't like to talk about it, why the hell did you start a topic on it in the first place?
perryfaithful wrote:'Are you now knocking Neal, Jon, Ross, etc..... for making money????
It is OK for the other band members to make money, but if Perry makes money from the sales of a products, then he is doing something wrong.????'
I thought that was pretty funny also. Monker should proof read and do some thinking before pushing the send button. YUP, Neal and company touring just because they "like to" and want to PLEASE the fans...but not because they make money........ah, BS!
perryfaithful wrote:yakov wrote:[Perry doesn't even have a computer.
And how would you know that Jackov?
I'm not making excuses for Perry.
You and some others here are the ONLY ONES that are coming up with some "made up answers in your heads, and making statements about how you THINK Perry feels about the fans with NO facts to back it up!!!
It's just your "major hostility" that leads YOU to THINK that you know how Perry feels about the fans or whatever!
Furthermore Monker, it isn't the Perry Fans who stated, or have the attitude that Perry should "honor them" with their presence at this event. Go back & read SOME of those OTHER FANS statements.
And Monker, your comment about," I guess he only cares about his accomplisment in Journey when they can be sold to people and put $'s in his bank" is totally rediculous too.
The fact here is that Jeff Golub stated on his website that Perry GAVE the rights of the song "Can't Let You go" for him to use for charity for children.
Also what about the fact that ALL THE BAND MEMBERS of Journey BENEFIT from the money made by the sales of the classic DVD's???
Are you now knocking Neal, Jon, Ross, etc..... for making money????
It is OK for the other band members to make money, but if Perry makes money from the sales of a products, then he is doing something wrong.???? That makes NO sense!!!
And Monker, we ALL know it was a WHOLE LOT MORE than 4 fans that WANT & BOUGHT THE CLASSIC DVD's of The Perry Years.
perryfaithful wrote:I thought that was pretty funny also. Monker should proof read and do some thinking before pushing the send button. YUP, Neal and company touring just because they "like to" and want to PLEASE the fans...but not because they make money........ah, BS!
PROPERRY wrote:
All your talk is based on what you THINK, and you have NO facts to back up anything you say. Again Perry will do what is right for him! That is fine by me!
I'm wondering could it be possible the reason YOU and SOME OTHERS feel, so strongly that Perry SHOULD show up to HONOR YOU is that YOU feel the band really NEEDS Steve Perry to be there????
Are YOU thinking that if Steve Perry does NOT show up, it WON'T be much of turn out with the fans for the other band members???
And did you even consider that it could be POSSIBLE that Neal & MAYBE a few others in the band MAY NOT really want him to show up for the ceremony??? Have you even thought about that at all???
All I can say is.... I think Perry should do just whatever he WANTS to do!!! And OH MY, IF Perry were to come, HE would FILL the sidewalks & streets with thousands of fans for miles around to get a chance to see him!!!!
Lori
LAWoman wrote:PROPERRY wrote:
All your talk is based on what you THINK, and you have NO facts to back up anything you say. Again Perry will do what is right for him! That is fine by me!
I'm wondering could it be possible the reason YOU and SOME OTHERS feel, so strongly that Perry SHOULD show up to HONOR YOU is that YOU feel the band really NEEDS Steve Perry to be there????
Are YOU thinking that if Steve Perry does NOT show up, it WON'T be much of turn out with the fans for the other band members???
And did you even consider that it could be POSSIBLE that Neal & MAYBE a few others in the band MAY NOT really want him to show up for the ceremony??? Have you even thought about that at all???
All I can say is.... I think Perry should do just whatever he WANTS to do!!! And OH MY, IF Perry were to come, HE would FILL the sidewalks & streets with thousands of fans for miles around to get a chance to see him!!!!
Lori
Oh, eureka! You finally got it. Everyone is saying what they THINK--including you. You can believe your version is reality, but you have no more idea than the people you are criticizing--it's all just what you think.
As for whether Neal & some other band members may or may not want Perry in attendance--once again you miss the whole point. They are doing what they know is right and they all know the fans would like to see all the members of Journey there so whatever they may or may not want personally would not be determinative. As Neal said at the SF Ceremony--all the members of Journey should have been there.
I think it a bit odd, though, that you are pleased that Perry will do "just whatever he WANTS to do"--like thinking only of yourself if a virtue in your world. Oh, if we could all just do what we want to do without any sense of responsibility or feeling that sometimes you have to do what is right for everyone which may not be exactly the same as what you want.
It's also quite telling that you believe that thousands of fans would come from miles around to see Perry at a ceremony. He is simply not that famous in 2004. I expect there will be a nice crowd at the ceremony--probably more than at the SF ceremony, but since it is during a regular workday, I cannot imagine the crowd will be overwhelming no matter who shows. In fact, I would imagine they limit the crowd for these ceremonies otherwise when the huge superstars are getting their stars, it would be unmanageable.
PROPERRY wrote:Actually the more you & some others talk here, it says more about you all, than it ever could about Steve Perry.
Intelligent people who think for themselves, state the truth even though you don't want to hear it, and refuse to be brainwashed? Yeah that would describe us.
atthistime wrote:Wow! All the name calling. The truth must really hurt to get some of you go off the deep end and resort to such behavior.
And unlike you & some others here , I don't think Perry HAS to live his life "always pleasing the fans wants & needs". I realize that HE has a right to live his life, as he chooses, & do whatever he wants to do.
Gee even Steve Augeri showed his appreciation in an interview towards Perry.
Augeri stated in that interview (not exact words) something about him being concerned from the beginning of joining Journey that he had in the back of his mind that Perry could make up & return to Journey.
That all being said, I believe that SHOWS that "Perry is NOT selfish and only thinking of himself", as some of you said.
Perry has made NO attempts to rejoin Journey.
The proof of that is because Steve Augeri still has his job!!! I would think that would make SOME of you fans happy, not needing to tear down Steve Perry for HIS CHOICES IN HIS life!!!!
As I said before, Steve Perry has already GIVEN THE FANS the BEST gift of all, and that is the MUSIC that will last forever!!!!
perryfaithful wrote:atthistime wrote:Wow! All the name calling. The truth must really hurt to get some of you go off the deep end and resort to such behavior.
So ATT......Did you appreciate being called a buck toothed unloved fat pig by Mr. Tornado Jackson cause you are a fan of Steve Perry and the Classic years of Journey??? With fans like these, Journey should be very proud......
mystichealer wrote:
'TJ' I do not know you personally, and wouldn't care to either but have read a lot of your posts, and find them alarming to say the least. All the name calling that you resort to is disgraceful and totally out of context to what is supposed to be a forum where fans can come to and chat about their favourite band(s) or artists, and not have to be bombarded with insults with someone calling someone a 'buck toothed, unloved, ugly fat pig'. Have you no decency or respect for anyone? Obviously not...
You should be slung off this forum for this outburst.
MH
Monker wrote:And unlike you & some others here , I don't think Perry HAS to live his life "always pleasing the fans wants & needs". I realize that HE has a right to live his life, as he chooses, & do whatever he wants to do.
yes, he has a right to his 'life' but Perry fans should not live the lie that he is not so selfish that he can't personaly accept an honor that Journey fans, and Perry fans, give him.Gee even Steve Augeri showed his appreciation in an interview towards Perry.
Augeri has stated such things FROM THE BEGINING. What is truly sad is that it has taken some Perry fans seven years to finaly listen and hear it.Augeri stated in that interview (not exact words) something about him being concerned from the beginning of joining Journey that he had in the back of his mind that Perry could make up & return to Journey.
That all being said, I believe that SHOWS that "Perry is NOT selfish and only thinking of himself", as some of you said.
Other sources have said that Perry never 'really' left the band and can return at any time he wants to. In other words, his selfishness would not allow him to fully let go of the cow that has fed him his entire career....and allow someone else to COMPLETELY take over. What Augeri said basicaly confirms that for me.Perry has made NO attempts to rejoin Journey.
Of course not. The guy can't tour! Why WOULD he return? Especialy when he gets paid anyway! Geez! If you could quit your job but be paid as if you were still there, what would YOU do?The proof of that is because Steve Augeri still has his job!!! I would think that would make SOME of you fans happy, not needing to tear down Steve Perry for HIS CHOICES IN HIS life!!!!
Of course. I would like Perry to be as far away from being a member of Journey as possible.As I said before, Steve Perry has already GIVEN THE FANS the BEST gift of all, and that is the MUSIC that will last forever!!!!
Yeah, too bad he let his selfishness hold the band in limbo after ROR and after TBF. Too bad he can't accept the honor ofJourney fans, HIS fans, honoring HIM.
perryfaithful wrote:yakov wrote:[Perry doesn't even have a computer.
And how would you know that yakov?
yakov wrote:perryfaithful wrote:yakov wrote:[Perry doesn't even have a computer.
And how would you know that yakov?
It was in a Fan Asylum interview. The following is a Perry quote:
Q. There is the perception that you have a computer and are online, visiting various web sites, going into chat rooms and sending and receiving emails. Is this correct?
PERRY: I am here to tell you that it is incorrect. I am not online; I am not sending or receiving emails. I have never been on line.
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