World War 3 - Def Leppard vs Poison - Round 3

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World War 3 - Def Leppard vs Poison - Round 3

Postby JRNYLIVE » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:06 am

New Comments from Joe, now on the Official Site

http://www.defleppard.com/news/newsItem.asp?id=77
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Re: World War 3 - Def Leppard vs Poison - Round 3

Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:57 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:New Comments from Joe, now on the Official Site

http://www.defleppard.com/news/newsItem.asp?id=77


a good read. i know ur a leppard fan, but i still think joe started this. i personally prefer Poison over Leppard although i know Leppard are better musicians and songwriters. peace.
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Postby Fire99 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:30 am

Well you gotta hand it to Joe. He stands by his words.. :D

Oh and Oi Joe.. You forgot Pete Willis in you're name line-up...

(Suppose you could include Tony Kenning and Frank Noon too if 'Wiki' is to be believed.. :) )

Agree about the Glam thing but still think Joe's gob overtakes his brain a bit of late..
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Postby Kenny » Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:53 am

Handbags at 10 paces boys! I saw Leppard in 92 - they didn't lip synch. The odd bum note here and there proves that. I'm seeing 'em again in October and looking forward to it!
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Postby Fire99 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:55 pm

Kenny wrote:Handbags at 10 paces boys! I saw Leppard in 92 - they didn't lip synch. The odd bum note here and there proves that. I'm seeing 'em again in October and looking forward to it!


Agreed on the lip sync thing.. the other guys in the band can hold a good note singing too and their performances always seem really well organised..
I think making the best of your talent springs to mind..
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:04 am

I've got hundreds of Bootlegs of Def Leppard and believe me they aint lip syncing.
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Re: World War 3 - Def Leppard vs Poison - Round 3

Postby JRNYLIVE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:07 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:New Comments from Joe, now on the Official Site

http://www.defleppard.com/news/newsItem.asp?id=77


a good read. i know ur a leppard fan, but i still think joe started this. i personally prefer Poison over Leppard although i know Leppard are better musicians and songwriters. peace.


Joe stated his opinion, there wasn't anything started until Poison came back at him all offended.
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Postby JD » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:12 am

Joe Elliott is a douchebag, plain and simple. He never misses an opportunity to put down other bands.

The current Def Leppard sucks and they have since Steve Clark died and Mutt Lange left.

Def Leppard was a great band at one time, for the above 2 reasons. Without Clark and Lange, they are just a cover band who lacks the needed talent to put out any more great music. Every tour is the Hysteria tour. They can't let go of the past because they aren't squat without Clark's songs.
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:35 am

JD wrote:Joe Elliott is a douchebag, plain and simple. He never misses an opportunity to put down other bands.

The current Def Leppard sucks and they have since Steve Clark died and Mutt Lange left.

Def Leppard was a great band at one time, for the above 2 reasons. Without Clark and Lange, they are just a cover band who lacks the needed talent to put out any more great music. Every tour is the Hysteria tour. They can't let go of the past because they aren't squat without Clark's songs.


How do you call 5 songs out of 16 the Hysteria Tour?

well, steve clark never really wrote complete songs....more of a riff guy. Mutt Lange has written and produced with DL since Steve died.

also, it's been 21 years since Hysteria was released...they are still selling albums, still releasing new music, still doing sold out shows, still doing world tours...... 30 years later.

Steve Clark would have been nothing without the song writing of the rest of Def Leppard.

Do you think Pyromania and Hysteria would have sold as well if they were released today? not likely....

think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.

now who's the real douche....
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Postby JD » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:50 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.


Hey, you might make more sense if you removed Joe's cock from your mouth before you type.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:10 am

i have to laugh at that last post jd! lol. although jrnylive has a point, leppard do still sell alot of records. but i agree with urself, leppard were never the same after steve dies, yeh he was a riffmaster like jrnylive said, but even losing Mutt Lange completely changed their sound. fact - hysteria and pyromania are their best albums. jrnylive, why are u gettin so upset by people slaggin joe elliott? i mean JD is right, joe never misses a chance to put other bands down, hes a twat! but if thats gonna upset u then peace, no point arguing. btw, vivian campbell is the same, he slagged of dio, when it was dio who actually gave him his first big break which led to joining whitesnake then leppard. :?
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:35 am

JD wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.


Hey, you might make more sense if you removed Joe's cock from your mouth before you type.


predictable answer, right along with your BS filled posts.

think harder next time
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:i have to laugh at that last post jd! lol. although jrnylive has a point, leppard do still sell alot of records. but i agree with urself, leppard were never the same after steve dies, yeh he was a riffmaster like jrnylive said, but even losing Mutt Lange completely changed their sound. fact - hysteria and pyromania are their best albums. jrnylive, why are u gettin so upset by people slaggin joe elliott? i mean JD is right, joe never misses a chance to put other bands down, hes a twat! but if thats gonna upset u then peace, no point arguing. btw, vivian campbell is the same, he slagged of dio, when it was dio who actually gave him his first big break which led to joining whitesnake then leppard. :?


Joe voices his opinion like you're voicing yours right now. it just so happens that when Joe speaks millions of people hear it or read about it. I don't always agree, but shit he has a right to his opinion.

Same thing happened when Andrew voiced his opinion about the Yeah Album before it was released... Joe also had an opinion on that. :D

Def Leppard's sound changed right in the middle of the Grunge Era... who didnt change their sound during that time.? and slang was great CD.... and it was for one CD.

Vivian Hates Dio for Business reasons....Dio treated those guys like shit....

the songs changed, and so did the sound... but you can sure as hell tell it's def leppard.

If Mutt was producing the whole CD would sound dated. Thus, Shania, Brian Adams and Def Leppard all sounding the same at one point.

i mean come on....
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Postby JD » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:35 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:predictable answer, right along with your BS filled posts.


Hey, you might make more sense if you removed Joe's cock from your mouth before you type.
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Postby Kenny » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:51 pm

JD wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:predictable answer, right along with your BS filled posts.


Hey, you might make more sense if you removed Joe's cock from your mouth before you type.
Is there really a need for that? You don't like the band, that's fair enough and all good - but why come to the forum simply to insult people who do?
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:29 pm

lets all be friends. i mean, i still like leppard, just not as much as i used to. and i still stand by my words about elliott and campbell being twats. although i met phil to and he was a gentleman. btw, i also love slang, i bought it the first day it came out and still think its an overlooked gem :D
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Postby JD » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:14 pm

Kenny wrote:Is there really a need for that? You don't like the band, that's fair enough and all good - but why come to the forum simply to insult people who do?


So, let's see here. If you like the band, it's ok to insult other posters, but if you don't like (the present incarnation) of the band, it's not ok is insult other posters? Nice set of double standards!
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Postby defbezerk » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:
JD wrote:Joe Elliott is a douchebag, plain and simple. He never misses an opportunity to put down other bands.

The current Def Leppard sucks and they have since Steve Clark died and Mutt Lange left.

Def Leppard was a great band at one time, for the above 2 reasons. Without Clark and Lange, they are just a cover band who lacks the needed talent to put out any more great music. Every tour is the Hysteria tour. They can't let go of the past because they aren't squat without Clark's songs.


How do you call 5 songs out of 16 the Hysteria Tour?

well, steve clark never really wrote complete songs....more of a riff guy. Mutt Lange has written and produced with DL since Steve died.

also, it's been 21 years since Hysteria was released...they are still selling albums, still releasing new music, still doing sold out shows, still doing world tours...... 30 years later.

Steve Clark would have been nothing without the song writing of the rest of Def Leppard.

Do you think Pyromania and Hysteria would have sold as well if they were released today? not likely....

think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.

now who's the real douche....



Look at their setlist for the last 10 years and you will see....they are a nostalgic band plain and simple. Ph yeah they tour with the like of REO Speedwagon and Styx...lol
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Postby defbezerk » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:37 am

JD wrote:
Kenny wrote:Is there really a need for that? You don't like the band, that's fair enough and all good - but why come to the forum simply to insult people who do?


So, let's see here. If you like the band, it's ok to insult other posters, but if you don't like (the present incarnation) of the band, it's not ok is insult other posters? Nice set of double standards!


DL is my favorite band but man if you talk any smack on them, which they deserve alot, the drones get all over you with the double standards. Def Leppard can take a dump in a CD case and there are some who would just say it was fantastic.

On another note, I can't wait to see when Nikki Sixx gets a hold of all of this. By the wayMr. Elliott, Motly is selling better than you right now!!!
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:12 am

JD wrote:
Kenny wrote:Is there really a need for that? You don't like the band, that's fair enough and all good - but why come to the forum simply to insult people who do?


So, let's see here. If you like the band, it's ok to insult other posters, but if you don't like (the present incarnation) of the band, it's not ok is insult other posters? Nice set of double standards!
It's a fair point - but did anybody tell you to take someone's dick out of their mouth?? There's insults and then there's INSULTS amigo!
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:17 am

defbezerk wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:
JD wrote:Joe Elliott is a douchebag, plain and simple. He never misses an opportunity to put down other bands.

The current Def Leppard sucks and they have since Steve Clark died and Mutt Lange left.

Def Leppard was a great band at one time, for the above 2 reasons. Without Clark and Lange, they are just a cover band who lacks the needed talent to put out any more great music. Every tour is the Hysteria tour. They can't let go of the past because they aren't squat without Clark's songs.


How do you call 5 songs out of 16 the Hysteria Tour?

well, steve clark never really wrote complete songs....more of a riff guy. Mutt Lange has written and produced with DL since Steve died.

also, it's been 21 years since Hysteria was released...they are still selling albums, still releasing new music, still doing sold out shows, still doing world tours...... 30 years later.

Steve Clark would have been nothing without the song writing of the rest of Def Leppard.

Do you think Pyromania and Hysteria would have sold as well if they were released today? not likely....

think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.

now who's the real douche....



Look at their setlist for the last 10 years and you will see....they are a nostalgic band plain and simple. Ph yeah they tour with the like of REO Speedwagon and Styx...lol
Look, any band with a big back catalogue is going to play their hits and songs off their best selling albums....what is wrong with a bit of nostalgia anyway? I certainly don't think everything they've released has been good - I don't particularly like 'Slang' or 'X' for that matter, but I tell you this - if I'd released albums like 'Pyromania' and 'Hysteria' I would be playing the FUCK out of those albums live!!

SFTSL is not bad and I'm looking forward to hearing some of those tunes live, as well as the classics!
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Postby JD » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:24 am

Kenny wrote: There's insults and then there's INSULTS amigo!


Yeah, and there are also INsults, inSULTS, InSuLts, iNsUlTs, INSULts, insulTS and probably a bunch more. What's your point?
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:30 am

JD wrote:
Kenny wrote: There's insults and then there's INSULTS amigo!


Yeah, and there are also INsults, inSULTS, InSuLts, iNsUlTs, INSULts, insulTS and probably a bunch more. What's your point?
My point was that maybe your INSULTS were a little more inflammatory than the other dudes insults, that's all. I'm sure he's a big boy and can handle it anyway!

I don't give that much of a fuck, I just don't like to see people in conflict when they really have some common ground - if you think the band blows dog balls in it's current form fine - don't listen to 'em!
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:11 am

Kenny wrote:
JD wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:predictable answer, right along with your BS filled posts.


Hey, you might make more sense if you removed Joe's cock from your mouth before you type.
Is there really a need for that? You don't like the band, that's fair enough and all good - but why come to the forum simply to insult people who do?


He can't help it. It's the only way he knows how to communicate.

I find it funny that you can identify with great speed when someone is talking with a cock in their mouth? Is this from personal experience?

Maybe when you grow up and move out of your parents house you will see the point we are all trying to make/debate?.

Differing Opinions can be interesting and educational, insults are predictable and counter productive.
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Postby JD » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:20 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:
insults are predictable and counter productive.


Then why did you start with them fuck face?
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Postby defbezerk » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:20 am

JRNYLIVE wrote:
JD wrote:Joe Elliott is a douchebag, plain and simple. He never misses an opportunity to put down other bands.

The current Def Leppard sucks and they have since Steve Clark died and Mutt Lange left.

Def Leppard was a great band at one time, for the above 2 reasons. Without Clark and Lange, they are just a cover band who lacks the needed talent to put out any more great music. Every tour is the Hysteria tour. They can't let go of the past because they aren't squat without Clark's songs.


How do you call 5 songs out of 16 the Hysteria Tour?

well, steve clark never really wrote complete songs....more of a riff guy. Mutt Lange has written and produced with DL since Steve died.

also, it's been 21 years since Hysteria was released...they are still selling albums, still releasing new music, still doing sold out shows, still doing world tours...... 30 years later.

Steve Clark would have been nothing without the song writing of the rest of Def Leppard.

Do you think Pyromania and Hysteria would have sold as well if they were released today? not likely....

think long and hard before you post about something you obviously have no clue about.

now who's the real douche....



Looks to me here is the first insult...calling JD a douche cause he called Elliott one....I guess Jrnlive is hypocritical like Elliott
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Postby JD » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:28 am

defbezerk wrote:Looks to me here is the first insult...calling JD a douche cause he called Elliott one....I guess Jrnlive is hypocritical like Elliott


Exactly. Now if JRNYLIVE is actually Joe Elliott, then I guess you could say I insulted him first. Buy, since we all know that he is not Joe Elliott, and he defends Joe Elliott even when Joe is wrong, then I think it's a valid assumption that JRNYLIVE has Joe's cock in his mouth....quite often in fact.
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Postby Kenny » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:34 am

Whoa now children! :lol: Smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out!! People who think Joe Elliott is an asshole/douchbag whatever shouldn't be posting here!! Move on!
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:39 am

JD wrote:
JRNYLIVE wrote:
insults are predictable and counter productive.


Then why did you start with them fuck face?
another well thought out post!!!! Stellar work.....
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Postby JRNYLIVE » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:40 am

Kenny wrote:Whoa now children! :lol: Smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out!! People who think Joe Elliott is an asshole/douchbag whatever shouldn't be posting here!! Move on!


exactly, well said.
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