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Postby Boomchild » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:56 pm

Fact Finder wrote:BREAKING: DOJ IG refers five FBI employees for investigation over 'hostile' political messages - Fox


So the real questions are: Just who are they? If we are talking about non senior employees, then this a joke. Letting the underlings take the fall. Is the investigation going to be internal to the FBI\DOJ? If so, what you are going to see is a show for the public's sake.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:24 pm

As I dig into the OIG report, I am starting to get the impression that it is a continuation of a cover up. For me it begs the question: where all the delays in the release of it to give the opportunity to re-word things to let the guilty evade prosecution. Much like what I firmly believe Comey did with his determination on the HRC email "investigation".
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:00 pm

Boomchild wrote:As I dig into the OIG report, I am starting to get the impression that it is a continuation of a cover up. For me it begs the question: where all the delays in the release of it to give the opportunity to re-word things to let the guilty evade prosecution. Much like what I firmly believe Comey did with his determination on the HRC email "investigation".


Alan Dershowitz was talking this same thing a couple weeks ago. Your suspicions may not be unfounded. I'm not buying this crap as being legitimate. It reeks to high heaven. Dershowitz, as you know, is a Democrat...an intelligent one, who hasn't lost his sanity due to Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:07 pm

Who knew Hillary worked for the FBI?

11:02:22, FBI Employee: “All the people who were initially voting for her would not, and were not, swayed by any decision the FBI put out. Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing. They probably didn’t watch the debates, aren’t fully educated on his policies, and are stupidly wrapped up in his unmerited enthusiasm.”
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:09 pm

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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:10 pm

Fact Finder wrote:https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf


I wonder if this will include Mueller or only the original FISA warrant and all the dirty dealing surrounding it.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:13 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Who knew Hillary worked for the FBI?

11:02:22, FBI Employee: “All the people who were initially voting for her would not, and were not, swayed by any decision the FBI put out. Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing. They probably didn’t watch the debates, aren’t fully educated on his policies, and are stupidly wrapped up in his unmerited enthusiasm.”


Where is this from?
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Postby Fact Finder » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:34 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Who knew Hillary worked for the FBI?

11:02:22, FBI Employee: “All the people who were initially voting for her would not, and were not, swayed by any decision the FBI put out. Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing. They probably didn’t watch the debates, aren’t fully educated on his policies, and are stupidly wrapped up in his unmerited enthusiasm.”


Where is this from?


IG report from yesterday.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm

Trump just walked outside on the north lawn right into the press. What President does this? One with balls. Man did he rip CNN and Obama. "Obama lost Crimea. It's his fault". When was the last time you saw Iranian boats circling ours? You won't see our guys on their knees while I'm President. Putin didn't respect Obama. Why should he? You make red lines, you cross them. I did".

President Trump unloads on Comey, 'scum on top' of FBI a day after damning IG report's release

President Trump broke his silence on the scathing inspector general's report with a vengeance Friday, first tweeting that the FBI boss he fired was the "worst" in the bureau's history, then crashing "Fox & Friends" for an impromptu interview where he continued to blister the "scum on top" of the Obama-era bureau.

The president’s comments came a day after the release of the report, which was the result of an 18-month-long investigation by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Trump said the report, which found ex-FBI Director James Comey was insubordinate, showed Trump was justified in firing him.

“The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI," Trump tweeted early Friday. "Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him. Good Instincts. Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back!”



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The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI. Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him. Good Instincts. Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back!

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In the interview with Fox's Steve Doocy, Trump made it clear he considered Comey the leader of those "minions."

"I think Comey was the ringleader of this whole den of thieves," Trump said.

"If you took a poll at the FBI, [I would win]," Trump told Doocy. "I mean the real FBI, not the scum on top.”

Horowitz's report faulted Comey for going over the heads of his superiors, including former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, by holding a press conference to announce the FBI’s decision not to press criminal charges against Clinton. At that July, 2016 news conference, Comey called the then-presidential candidate's actions “extremely careless,” rather than “grossly negligent,” as drafted in the initial exoneration statement.

Critics have suggested that Trump's firing of Comey amounted to obstruction of justice, though Deputy Attorney General wrote a recommendation that Comey be fired. Trump reportedly told Russian officials in May, 2017 that Comey was a "real nutjob," and indicated the firing had to do with "facing great pressure because of Russia," in an apparent reference to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign.

Trump later denied that his decision to fire Comey was linked to the Russia probe.

The IG report also focused on political bias within the bureau—specifically referring to FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, who first came under scrutiny in December over a series of politically-charged, anti-Trump text messages they exchanged.


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FBI Agent Peter Strzok, who headed the Clinton & Russia investigations, texted to his lover Lisa Page, in the IG Report, that “we’ll stop” candidate Trump from becoming President. Doesn’t get any lower than that!

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The inspector general released new text messages between the two—suggesting that they would “stop” Trump from becoming president.

“[Trump’s not ever going to become president, right? Right!?” Page texted Strzok in August 2016.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

Trump blasted Strzok early Friday in a separate tweet.

“FBI Agent Peter Strzok, who headed the Clinton & Russia investigations, texted his lover Lisa Page, in the IG Report, that ‘we’ll stop’ candidate Trump from becoming President. Doesn’t get any lower than that!” Trump tweeted.

The report revealed that more bureau officials than previously thought were exchanging anti-Trump messages. The inspector general referred five FBI employees for further investigation.

The inspector general’s office uncovered numerous messages that “appeared to mix political opinion with discussions about the MYE investigation.”

MYE, or “Midyear Exam,” was the code used in the FBI to refer to the investigation into Clinton’s private email server.

“Some of these text messages and instant messages mixed political commentary with discussions about the Midyear investigation, and raised concerns that political bias may have impacted investigative decisions,” the report read.

The report noted that it was specifically concerned about text messages exchanged between Strzok and Page that “potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations.”

Strzok and Page, who were romantically involved, both served for a short period of time on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation team. Strzok was reassigned following the revelations of his anti-Trump texts. Page resigned from the bureau last month.

But while many of those texts were made public in late 2017, the IG report revealed a new one in which Strzok vowed to "stop" Trump from becoming president -- and made clear that as many as five total FBI employees exchanged politically charged messages. "The text messages and instant messages sent by these employees included statements of hostility toward then candidate Trump and statements of support for candidate Clinton," the report said.

"I don’t know how Peter Strzok is working there anymore," Trump told Doocy.

The report revealed instant messages between unnamed agents, labeled “Agent 1” and “Agent 5,” discussing their jobs in August 2016.

“I find anyone who enjoys [this job] an absolute f---ing idiot. If you don’t think so, ask them one more question. Who are you voting for? I guarantee you it will be Donald Drumpf,” Agent 1 sent.

“I forgot about drumpf…that’s so sad and pathetic if they want to vote for him,” Agent 5 responded. “Someone who can’t answer a question. Someone who can’t be professional for even a second.”

In September, Agent 1 and 5 conversed again, bashing Trump supporters as “retarded.”

“I’m trying to think of a ‘would I rather’ instead of spending time with those people,” Agent 5 sent.

Agent 1 asked, “stick your tongue in a fan??”

Agent 5 later wrote: “I would rather have brunch with trump and a bunch of his supporters like the ones from ohio that are retarded.”

The report did not, however, find evidence connecting those political opinions held by FBI officials to decisions made in the Clinton investigation.

In a statement to Fox News, Strzok’s attorney Aitan Goelman defended Strzok’s work at the FBI.

“After a year-long investigation that included a review of millions of communications and interviews of scores of witnesses, the IG concluded that there is no evidence that the political views of Special Agent Strzok and others in the FBI impacted the handling of the Clinton email investigation,” Goelman said. “As the Report notes, Special Agent Strzok in particular was consistently thorough and aggressive, sometimes to the point that put him at odds with senior officials at the Department of Justice.”

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:43 pm

Obama had direct contact with Clinton on private email server: IG report

President Obama was one of a select handful of individuals who had "direct contact" with Hillary Clinton on her private email account, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz indicated in his bombshell report Thursday on the Clinton email probe.

In a footnote, the DOJ watchdog notes that "FBI analysts and Prosecutor 2 told us that former President Barack Obama was one of the 13 individuals with whom Clinton had direct contact using her clintonemail.com account."

The IG report adds that Obama used a pseudonym for his username and that, after intelligence analysts questioned whether Obama's communications contained classified information, it was determined the emails sent and received were not classified.

Obama said in a 2015 interview to CBS News that he learned about it "the same time everybody else learned it, through news reports."

Press Secretary Josh Earnest acknowledged shortly after those remarks attracted attention that Obama and Clinton did exchange emails.

"The president, as I think many people expected, did over the course of his first several years in office, trade emails with the secretary of state," he said.

Despite speculation at the time that the president would have noticed Clinton was not using a ".gov" account, Earnest said Obama nevertheless was unaware of Clinton's personal email server and how she was following federal records law.

Elsewhere in the IG report, the IG asked investigators why they made no effort to obtain the personal devices that Clinton’s senior aides were using at the State Department, since those devices were "potential sources of Clinton's ... classified emails" or places where unauthorized classified emails were being stored.

In response, officials on the probe claimed that "the culture of mishandling classified information at the State Department" was so pervasive that it "made the quantity of potential sources of evidence particularly vast" -- a rationale that the IG implied was unconvincing, because investigators could simply have obtained personal devices for a handful of key Clinton aides.

Investigators also claimed the State Department would be the better agency to handle that kind of deep-dive into Clinton's emails. In the end, Horowitz concluded that the issue was a "judgment call" and that there was no evidence improper political considerations influenced investigators' decisions.nd for a question to comment.

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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:37 am

Fact Finder wrote:https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf


Oh Gee, we get to wait for another report that consists of reams and reams of paper which the end result being the OIG says shame, shame shame on you. How about a special prosecutor from outside D.C. be assigned? No you wouldn't want that. Makes it harder to cover things up.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:43 am

Jimmy Dore nails it again. The leading luminaries on the "left" here in America are now against peace and see a Russian conspiracy behind every tree. This is a deep rooted pathology. These people disgust me.

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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:12 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Trump just walked outside on the north lawn right into the press. What President does this? One with balls. Man did he rip CNN and Obama. "Obama lost Crimea. It's his fault". When was the last time you saw Iranian boats circling ours? You won't see our guys on their knees while I'm President. Putin didn't respect Obama. Why should he? You make red lines, you cross them. I did".

President Trump unloads on Comey, 'scum on top' of FBI a day after damning IG report's release

President Trump broke his silence on the scathing inspector general's report with a vengeance Friday, first tweeting that the FBI boss he fired was the "worst" in the bureau's history, then crashing "Fox & Friends" for an impromptu interview where he continued to blister the "scum on top" of the Obama-era bureau.

The president’s comments came a day after the release of the report, which was the result of an 18-month-long investigation by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Trump said the report, which found ex-FBI Director James Comey was insubordinate, showed Trump was justified in firing him.

“The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI," Trump tweeted early Friday. "Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him. Good Instincts. Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back!”


And with all he has said he doesn't call for a special prosecutor to investigate the FBI\DOJ. He doesn't suggest that a new investigation into HRC's private email server use be started. "Drain the Swamp" my ass.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby Fact Finder » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:37 am

Boomchild wrote:
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Trump just walked outside on the north lawn right into the press. What President does this? One with balls. Man did he rip CNN and Obama. "Obama lost Crimea. It's his fault". When was the last time you saw Iranian boats circling ours? You won't see our guys on their knees while I'm President. Putin didn't respect Obama. Why should he? You make red lines, you cross them. I did".

President Trump unloads on Comey, 'scum on top' of FBI a day after damning IG report's release

President Trump broke his silence on the scathing inspector general's report with a vengeance Friday, first tweeting that the FBI boss he fired was the "worst" in the bureau's history, then crashing "Fox & Friends" for an impromptu interview where he continued to blister the "scum on top" of the Obama-era bureau.

The president’s comments came a day after the release of the report, which was the result of an 18-month-long investigation by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Trump said the report, which found ex-FBI Director James Comey was insubordinate, showed Trump was justified in firing him.

“The IG Report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions and sadly, the FBI," Trump tweeted early Friday. "Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader, by far, in the history of the FBI. I did a great service to the people in firing him. Good Instincts. Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back!”


And with all he has said he doesn't call for a special prosecutor to investigate the FBI\DOJ. He doesn't suggest that a new investigation into HRC's private email server use be started. "Drain the Swamp" my ass.


Let’s see what Huber does before we get too crazy. I still have faith.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:40 am

Here are two videos from Lionel Lebron with his commentary on the OIG report. Worth watching. He begs the question have we learned anything new? In the second video below his query about the OIG using the term "documented evidence" is thought provoking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LIVKBDuHwQ&t=452s

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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:54 am

Manafort's bail has been revoked because he sent text messages to somebody who Are witness in Mueller's case so he's been charged with witness tampering.

Maybe Mueller is pissed by the IG report and is doubling down.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:00 am

Fact Finder wrote:Let’s see what Huber does before we get too crazy. I still have faith.


While I have yet to get through the whole report, it seems to me that the gist of it is as follows:

FBI personnel ignored or usurped standard FBI policies and practices BUT they properly applied the "letter of the law" in the investigation.

FBI personnel made inflammatory statements to each other about then candidate Donald Trump BUT they weren't biased in their actions when it came to the investigation.

The Lynch\Clinton tarmac meeting was purely innocent.

That Comey and others in the FBI initially failed to recognize the importance of the material contained on Wiener's computer.

I would not be hinging my bets on Huber. One, he was appointed by Sessions and in my opinion Sesssions himself is suspect. Two, Huber has a history of reviewing allegations and not prosecuting. In my opinion, this all just as if the FBI\DOJ conducted this review on their own. BTW has anyone seen or heard from Sessions lately? So I think if you feel we will see actual justice handed down and HRC be held accountable for breaching data security protocol your going to be sadly disappointed.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:05 am

Boomchild wrote:Here are two videos from Lionel Lebron with his commentary on the OIG report. Worth watching. He begs the question have we learned anything new? In the second video below his query about the OIG using the term "documented evidence" is thought provoking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LIVKBDuHwQ&t=452s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9wfq0W26c


He's right. If nothing changes, if nothing is done except this "retraining" by the FBI, then we will have no right to accuse any other government of corruption.
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Postby Boomchild » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:07 am

ohsherrie wrote:Manafort's bail has been revoked because he sent text messages to somebody who Are witness in Mueller's case so he's been charged with witness tampering.

Maybe Mueller is pissed by the IG report and is doubling down.


No I think rather it's Mueller sees OIG report as a green light that bias and corruption in the justice system is still allowed to occur.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:11 am

I'm hoping for a little more clarification on some of this when the IG testifies to the committee and I really hope Huber will do something.
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Boomchild wrote:
While I have yet to get through the whole report,



I'm glad you're reading it. I just can't make myself do it.
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Goodlatte moves to subpoena FBI agent accused of anti-Trump bias

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte started the clock Friday on a procedure to subpoena Peter Strzok, the FBI agent accused by an internal Justice Department watchdog of harboring intense bias against President Donald Trump.

The Virginia Republican's move comes on the heels of a critical Justice Department inspector general report that delivered a harsh assessment of Strzok's animus toward Trump, revealed through private text messages to FBI attorney Lisa Page that were uncovered during the internal investigation.

Two sources briefed on subpoena effort indicated that Goodlatte has formally notified his Democratic counterparts of his intent to subpoena Strzok, a step that launches a two-day waiting period before he can officially issue the subpoena, under committee procedures.

Goodlatte's official notice to his colleagues points toward a subpoena being issued as early as next week.

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Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told Breitbart News earlier this week that House Republicans are considering forcibly removing House Speaker Paul Ryan from the speakership via a “motion to vacate the chair” over Ryan’s efforts to undermine President Donald Trump’s agenda.
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Fact Finder wrote:Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told Breitbart News earlier this week that House Republicans are considering forcibly removing House Speaker Paul Ryan from the speakership via a “motion to vacate the chair” over Ryan’s efforts to undermine President Donald Trump’s agenda.


If they had done that a month ago we would probably have an immigration bill by now.
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Fact Finder wrote:Goodlatte moves to subpoena FBI agent accused of anti-Trump bias

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte started the clock Friday on a procedure to subpoena Peter Strzok, the FBI agent accused by an internal Justice Department watchdog of harboring intense bias against President Donald Trump.

The Virginia Republican's move comes on the heels of a critical Justice Department inspector general report that delivered a harsh assessment of Strzok's animus toward Trump, revealed through private text messages to FBI attorney Lisa Page that were uncovered during the internal investigation.

Two sources briefed on subpoena effort indicated that Goodlatte has formally notified his Democratic counterparts of his intent to subpoena Strzok, a step that launches a two-day waiting period before he can officially issue the subpoena, under committee procedures.

Goodlatte's official notice to his colleagues points toward a subpoena being issued as early as next week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/ ... ias-648993


Goodlatte is going to face an uphill battle on this one. Even though IG expressed concern over Strzok's bias, in the end he reported that he could not find ANYTHING that effected his actions in the investigation. Here is a good question, why is Strzok STILL employed at the FBI? Hello Wray??? If Wray is supposed to restore honor and credibility to the FBI, he needs to at the very least give Strzok the boot.
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Re: Presidump David Dennison LLC - ONLY Term Thread

Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:44 am

I have a really hard time believing that with as much blatant bias as is in that report that it didn't effect the investigation. Example: If Strozk was reviewing emails to decide what level of classification applied, would he be more or less likely to classify them in Hillary's favor? I don't know if he did any reviewing of emails but the same principle applies to any of a number of tasks he was involved with. I think the IG's language on that matter is at worst biased itself and at best misleading.

Just because the IG couldn't say for sure that such a thing happened doesn't mean it didn't. That's something I hope the Oversight Committee will question.
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Postby K.C.Journey Fan » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:55 am

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And Boomchild, I understand. I'm wondering why Trump doesn't call Rosensteins ass back and fire it. But, the voters know. They see what happened and are sick of it. Hollywoods bullshit isn't flying any more. DeNiro made a total ass of himself. Look at TNC for example. He's far from the only lib that see's things for what they are. The list of blind idiots is dwendling.
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