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Def Lepp fans & critics of SLANG really crack me up. They all hate Slang sooo bad...yet, what was so bad about it? The album had 11 tracks. 4 tracks I would say were experimental in sound with Industrial, Alternative, India, Grunge Influences & excessive heaviness...whatever. Those tracks being Truth?, Turn To Dust, Gift Of Flesh, & Pearl Of Euphoria. The other 7.....the title track Slang is Hysteria's Pour Some Sugar On Me, Work It Out is in a way the upbeat tune of Hysteria's Animal, Deliver me is a killer rocker reminescent of Pyromania and the other 4 tracks are ballads.....everyone likes a good ballad and Leppard knows how to write 'em (Love Bites, Love & Affection, Stand Up Kick Love Into Motion, Have You Ever Needed Someone So Bad, Love & Hate Collide etc...all were released b4 Slang) One of those ballads was about the Late Great Steamin' Steve Clark (what FAN wasn't touched by that song?) So....7 outta 11......is that so bad? Most albums from the 80s to present day may have 1 - 3 good songs and the rest filler!!! I think most people tripped out when the heard the first 2 tracks on Slang and never gave the rest of the album a chance with Gift of Flesh & Pearl of Euphoria sealing it's fate. I think those 7 songs stand up quite well to anything else Leppard has out there.

Anyho....that's my humble take on it all.

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For those who don't know.....the song about Steve Clark is "Blood Runs Cold".

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Slang is my most favorite CD from the band. All the songs on it are great! It does take a little getting used to, but it is well wirth it!


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I like the slang album...
they really x-periment with different style o'music...
but they do it good! even the Slang! song is great!
like the just push ply aerosmith album, some critics and brainless fans can't stand bands experiencing news sounds...
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I really believe more in Frank's stuff!

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Although it's one of my least favourite Lep albums, i wouldn't say it's shit by any stretch of the imagination.In fact i'd say it's one of their more 'intersting' albums, but not one that would make me want to get up & do some air guitar or sing along to!

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I like Slang. The fact that it was a commercial flop compared to Pyromania and Hysteria is part of why it's gotten a bad rap, so to speak. From an artistic and musical point of view, I think Slang stacks up pretty well to the rest of the Def Leppard catalog.

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I like Slang

Imagine how it would have been condemned if it was a follow up to Hysteria?

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Imagine how it would have been condemned if it was a follow up to Hysteria?


Yeah, no kidding. Critics would've really had a field day then. (Not that they were all that flattering as it was).

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I totally love the Slang album!

The band must be totally frustrated by it's commercial failure. It's funny. They make an album (Slang) that's experimental, creative and sounds fresh and most long time fans say "This sucks. This isn't Def Leppard". Then they make another album (Euphoria) that goes back to the familiar Def Leppard sound, and then many fans say "This sucks. Same ol' same ol'. Where's the creativity?". Then they do the "X" album which is a combination of the two and...well, we all know what happened.

It's unfortunate how the band has been stereotyped. Reinvention hasn't worked for them because anything different gets rejected by most long time fans who say "This isn't Def Leppard", while the target audience (younger people) simply won't give it a chance just because "That's Def Leppard".

For all the "fans" who've rejected Slang, Euphoria and X I just would like to ask one thing: WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT!!?? It will never be 1987 again and nothing is constant but change.

I guarantee you, remove the name Def Leppard from either "Slang" or "X" and put a picture of 5 20-something guys on the cover and both albums go multi-platinum. Confused


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I love Slang. I like it better than any other album since Hysteria. It's not Pyromania or High N' Dry but nothing ever will be again.


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The Slang LP started Leppard on a downward spiral as for as record sales go and concert sales. They have yet to rebound since its release in 1996. It was like over night radio stations across America and even across the world from the postings I’ve read from fans on the official DL.com message board, just refused to play any tracks from Slang or Def Leppard. Def Leppard went from radio playing anything from them even a B side track which was a cover of Alice Cooper’s “Elected” and a Leppard bootleg of the Rolling Stones tune “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” which they recorded with Dublin’s Hothouse Flowers to form the Hippies from Hell, to stations denying any requests for Leppard’s music.

I remember DJ’s in New York City saying during the release of Adrenalize that anything Leppard comes out with, they know it is going to be good. Then Slang was released and Leppard was dropped from playlists across the country. It was spooky how with Adrenalize, an album that debutted at No. 1 on Billboard charts, was welcomed openly but with Slang, Leppard lost their charm over the public.

I recall on the official DL.com website, the band’s tour manager posted a diary entry about fans who during the release of the Slang LP misrepresented themselves as a division of Leppard’s management company. His posting stated that these fans were trying to persuade radio stations to play the singles from the Slang LP with this plot. The band’s tour manager wanted fans to stop affiliating themselves as working for the band. Personally, instead of berating fans for taking a desperate measure to get Leppard’s singles from Slang played, their tour manager should have taken those testimonials from DJ’s who were approached this way and shown them to the president of Leppard’s record label and say, “Look at this! You are refusing to play singles from Slang when there is a large demand to hear Leppard’s new music and you are denying people what they want.” I got the impression that their tour manager finds it easy to yell at fans but is cautious when it comes to people "in the business."

In the words of one sports writer who put it so eloquently when he said, “You just put your balls on your shoulders and you go in there and confront ‘em.” This was a more effective way to handle this situation then how the Leps and their organization did it which was to comply with anything anyone in the music business told them to do.

The music business kind of even determined that Vivian Campbell was the right guitarist for Leppard when he joined. He had “a good track record” in the words of Joe Elliott and Leppard’s managers felt confident that Vivian Campbell could play a huge arena tour which is what the band was about to embark on in 1992 with the Adrenalize LP. Joe Elliott stated that he did not want Leppard to be “the first band” that the new guitarist would be in, he wanted somebody who has been around. Today he may change his story but back then this is what he claimed. Well, now the Leps won’t be burdened to play huge tours any longer because the public seems disinterested in the Leps since Slang.

I thought that fans got the impression that maybe Malvin Mortimer was going to take over Steve Clark’s guitar parts because in the insert to the Adrenalize LP it says:

“In his second decade with us, Malvin will move on to even greater things (too numerous and secret to mention) in the greater world of the Leps. Keep your eyes peeled. All Hail Stumpus.”

That statement gave fans and DJ’s the perception that Malvin Mortimer would be the new guitarist but Vivian Campbell was initiated into the band on April 21, 1992 at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert at Wembly Stadium in London. When people learned that Malvin Mortimer was simply the band’s tour manager no one understood what was so “secret” and “too numerous” about that.

I do wonder if Leppard would be in this downward spiral they are in today if “Stumpus Maximus” had been their new guitarist or if the band had gone with Phil Collen’s old guitar partner from his band Girl, Gerry Laffy. But then I don’t suppose that he had “a good track record.” Now the Leps have a guy with “a good track record”, the only thing they are missing are record sales and concert sales. It is a damn good thing that the Leps did not think like this when they first started out because Def Leppard was Steve Clark’s first band and they would have never become the high profiled band they are without him.

But if Leppard had never become a high profiled band then Vivian Campbell may not have been attracted to them. And I say this because in Vivian Campbell’s interviews he continually brings up how hot Leppard were in the 1980’s and he brings up how he should be living that life. Vivian talks about how he wants to make a lot of money in his interviews. I thought the members of Def Leppard do not like people around them who are attracted to their fame as a high profiled band and their money.

I have to add that never before have I ever heard so many young girls say they are attracted to older men with money then when I have heard them on radio interviews with the members of Leppard throughout 2002 and 2003. I did not even realize that girls still thought like this but it seems to be something which Def Leppard brings out in them. If the Leps ever wanted to be Mick Jagger, they have done so. I will give credit to Mick Jagger for the Rolling Stones success though. No matter how jaded and manipulative he becomes over the course of time, he still maintains an innocence and an untainted honesty about his songwriting. I find it easy to disapprove of Mick Jagger’s behavior but still like the Stones songs. And by the Stones record and concert sales, lots of other people may very well be like me.

It was the late Freddie Mercury who said “People like it when you are genuine” and he attributed Queen’s genuineness in their songwriting to why the band was so successful. The Slang LP, the Euphoria LP, and the X LP all did poorly compared to other artists and certainly compared to the sales of Leppard’s LP’s with Steve Clark. I don’t think this is about Steve missing as much as it is about the lack of genuineness in the Leps songwriting and recording.

Maybe this downward spiral which Leppard have been experiencing since the release of the Slang LP is something which they have put on themselves and it is something which they need to correct. It is not about people not knowing what good quality music is, which is the excuse I’ve read Vivian Campbell use in his interviews. People know when they like something and there is no coaxing them into believing something that is not true to them. I don’t think it was the music on Slang that was a big step away from the Leps success as much as it was the Leps not being genuine to themselves. And they just kept going down that path rather than seeing where they went wrong. They did go wrong at the junction with Slang and people told them so, maybe not their family and friends but people.

You can debate about the music on Slang forever but if a band whom people believed in recorded these songs, the album would have sold a lot better.

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The Slang LP started Leppard on a downward spiral as for as record sales go and concert sales. They have yet to rebound since its release in 1996. It was like over night radio stations across America and even across the world from the postings I’ve read from fans on the official DL.com message board, just refused to play any tracks from Slang or Def Leppard. Def Leppard went from radio playing anything from them even a B side track which was a cover of Alice Cooper’s “Elected” and a Leppard bootleg of the Rolling Stones tune “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” which they recorded with Dublin’s Hothouse Flowers to form the Hippies from Hell, to stations denying any requests for Leppard’s music.

I remember DJ’s in New York City saying during the release of Adrenalize that anything Leppard comes out with, they know it is going to be good. Then Slang was released and Leppard was dropped from playlists across the country. It was spooky how with Adrenalize, an album that debutted at No. 1 on Billboard charts, was welcomed openly but with Slang, Leppard lost their charm over the public.

I recall on the official DL.com website, the band’s tour manager posted a diary entry about fans who during the release of the Slang LP misrepresented themselves as a division of Leppard’s management company. His posting stated that these fans were trying to persuade radio stations to play the singles from the Slang LP with this plot. The band’s tour manager wanted fans to stop affiliating themselves as working for the band. Personally, instead of berating fans for taking a desperate measure to get Leppard’s singles from Slang played, their tour manager should have taken those testimonials from DJ’s who were approached this way and shown them to the president of Leppard’s record label and say, “Look at this! You are refusing to play singles from Slang when there is a large demand to hear Leppard’s new music and you are denying people what they want.” I got the impression that their tour manager finds it easy to yell at fans but is cautious when it comes to people "in the business."

In the words of one sports writer who put it so eloquently when he said, “You just put your balls on your shoulders and you go in there and confront ‘em.” This was a more effective way to handle this situation then how the Leps and their organization did it which was to comply with anything anyone in the music business told them to do.

The music business kind of even determined that Vivian Campbell was the right guitarist for Leppard when he joined. He had “a good track record” in the words of Joe Elliott and Leppard’s managers felt confident that Vivian Campbell could play a huge arena tour which is what the band was about to embark on in 1992 with the Adrenalize LP. Joe Elliott stated that he did not want Leppard to be “the first band” that the new guitarist would be in, he wanted somebody who has been around. Today he may change his story but back then this is what he claimed. Well, now the Leps won’t be burdened to play huge tours any longer because the public seems disinterested in the Leps since Slang.

I thought that fans got the impression that maybe Malvin Mortimer was going to take over Steve Clark’s guitar parts because in the insert to the Adrenalize LP it says:

“In his second decade with us, Malvin will move on to even greater things (too numerous and secret to mention) in the greater world of the Leps. Keep your eyes peeled. All Hail Stumpus.”

That statement gave fans and DJ’s the perception that Malvin Mortimer would be the new guitarist but Vivian Campbell was initiated into the band on April 21, 1992 at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert at Wembly Stadium in London. When people learned that Malvin Mortimer was simply the band’s tour manager no one understood what was so “secret” and “too numerous” about that.

I do wonder if Leppard would be in this downward spiral they are in today if “Stumpus Maximus” had been their new guitarist or if the band had gone with Phil Collen’s old guitar partner from his band Girl, Gerry Laffy. But then I don’t suppose that he had “a good track record.” Now the Leps have a guy with “a good track record”, the only thing they are missing are record sales and concert sales. It is a damn good thing that the Leps did not think like this when they first started out because Def Leppard was Steve Clark’s first band and they would have never become the high profiled band they are without him.

But if Leppard had never become a high profiled band then Vivian Campbell may not have been attracted to them. And I say this because in Vivian Campbell’s interviews he continually brings up how hot Leppard were in the 1980’s and he brings up how he should be living that life. Vivian talks about how he wants to make a lot of money in his interviews. I thought the members of Def Leppard do not like people around them who are attracted to their fame as a high profiled band and their money.

I have to add that never before have I ever heard so many young girls say they are attracted to older men with money then when I have heard them on radio interviews with the members of Leppard throughout 2002 and 2003. I did not even realize that girls still thought like this but it seems to be something which Def Leppard brings out in them. If the Leps ever wanted to be Mick Jagger, they have done so. I will give credit to Mick Jagger for the Rolling Stones success though. No matter how jaded and manipulative he becomes over the course of time, he still maintains an innocence and an untainted honesty about his songwriting. I find it easy to disapprove of Mick Jagger’s behavior but still like the Stones songs. And by the Stones record and concert sales, lots of other people may very well be like me.

It was the late Freddie Mercury who said “People like it when you are genuine” and he attributed Queen’s genuineness in their songwriting to why the band was so successful. The Slang LP, the Euphoria LP, and the X LP all did poorly compared to other artists and certainly compared to the sales of Leppard’s LP’s with Steve Clark. I don’t think this is about Steve missing as much as it is about the lack of genuineness in the Leps songwriting and recording.

Maybe this downward spiral which Leppard have been experiencing since the release of the Slang LP is something which they have put on themselves and it is something which they need to correct. It is not about people not knowing what good quality music is, which is the excuse I’ve read Vivian Campbell use in his interviews. People know when they like something and there is no coaxing them into believing something that is not true to them. I don’t think it was the music on Slang that was a big step away from the Leps success as much as it was the Leps not being genuine to themselves. And they just kept going down that path rather than seeing where they went wrong. They did go wrong at the junction with Slang and people told them so, maybe not their family and friends but people.

You can debate about the music on Slang forever but if a band whom people believed in recorded these songs, the album would have sold a lot better.


Fine. Whatever. I still think Slang was an excellent album. Adrenalize was the one that started the downward spiral. Remember, it sold like 3 million out of the box and that was it. Hysteria was around for a long time sold over 12 million. 12 mil to 3 mil, sounds like the spiral already began. Adrenalize was a week watered down version of Hysteria. Slang was all it's own and the songs were actually good.


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The album Adrenalize came out in the early 90's when there was a new wave of music....it was called grunge. Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden were in and getting big. It still is an amazing feat that Leppard's Adrenalize remained in the #1 spot in most places all around the world for almost 2 months. Yes they only sold 3 million in the US, 7 million of that album worldwide, now. The music climate was changing. Then came Retraoctive.....it went platinum selling 1 million in the States. Two Steps behind was a top 40 single, maybe top 10? Leppard could have released another Adrenalize, but they decided to change their sound and reinvent themselves. Yes, Slang took a while getting used to, but nowadays I am finding myself listening to the title track and All I want is Everything regularily... Different sound but I like it. I realize I may be in the minority. Slang has actually sold 3 million worldwide...only 350,00 in the States. Obviously, it has been selling in Asia and Europe. The b-side Move with me Slowly definitely deserves a listen. Catchy tune! No Def Leppard will never recapture the heydays Of High 'n dry or Pyronania with Steve Clark. Steve is gone and is irreplaceable. I love Lep's old music, but also love the new Lep as well. I think Slang was experimental and an album they had to make as a sign of the times. I hope the next album is a mixture of Slang and X, with a bit more of an edge, but sounds modern.

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I cannot say that Adrenalize started Leppard on their downward spiral. Adrenalize debuted at No. 1 on the album charts in both America and England. It was a big thing that Adrenalize debuted at No. 1 on both sides of the Atlantic. Adrenalize was one of the only albums in history to do that. Maybe towards the ending of the Adrenalize tour, Leppard began spiraling down.

There is nothing unlikable about the songs on the Slang LP. They are highly emotional and touch a nerve in most people but that was the album when I noticed radio stations no longer wanted to play Def Leppard’s music. Adrenalize could have sold less than Slang in the long run but radio noticeably dropped Def Leppard from their playlists when Slang was released. Suddenly Def Leppard no longer fit radio stations format. I don’t think that I am making a criticism about Def Leppard’s music when I bring this up, I am trying to make a point about the band.

I remember reading a quote from Joe Elliott saying that “Def Leppard can play just as good as any other band out there.” But is Def Leppard just as believable as any other band out there. The Darkness was the band that made an impact and swept away 3 British Music Awards last year and The Darkness was Leppard’s opening act for a few of their American shows last year. I don’t believe that The Darkness are better musicians than the Leps but I think The Darkness are more believable than Def Leppard is perceived.

I say this because of Leppard’s own statements about their music and their thoughts about other bands. They betrayed their roots in British Rock Music by going on about being a Pop band. Now they have people believing that they should put out a cover album of classic 70’s British Rock tunes as a Pop band. It appears really artificial. The Leps speak with dislike for contemporary rock bands like Linkin Park, Slipknot and Jet but about twenty years ago, the Leps were those kids making their way through the music business.

In retrospect, I have to wonder if all those British critics were right when they said that Def Leppard were “Heavy Metal posers.” Twenty years later and it seems that Def Leppard were just merely posing as a Heavy Metal band and riding a wave with other successful Heavy Metal artists to break into music. The Leps destroyed any honesty they ever had behind their words when they did this.

Slang is not a “dreaded” album because of the songs on it, it is more like the Leps attitude since that album has turned Leppard onto a dead end road. One poster on this thread mentioned how much he likes “Move With Me Slowly” (a great song) which was the B-side to “All I Want Is Everything” from Slang. On that single is a photo of a guy holding up a sign that reads “Fortune Teller.” The image of going to someone else to tell you your fate rather than relying on your own instincts reflects what Leppard have done to themselves. Rather than putting faith in themselves the Leps have depended on “Fortune Tellers”, another entity, a sage in the music business with a track record to tell them what they should do. Before Slang, this band relied on their own instincts, but since Slang it seems that they have looked to others with a track record to show them which direction to follow.

Did any of that make sense? It is not a bash against Leppard’s music if Lionel Richie’s version of “Long, Long Way To Go” does well on radio. God knows Lionel Richie does not sing better than Joe Elliott does! It is a matter of whom people believe when those lyrics are sung. Joe Elliott speaks with a nonchalant attitude towards the words he sings, like they can be any words, “the lyrics are not important,” that is one of my most memorable remarks from Joe Elliott. When you treat lyrics like a joke and music like a product, like it’s nothing personal, people won’t take you seriously and Leppard is not taken seriously. Only the Leps can do something about that. Promotions won’t make the Leps more believable with the public and deflecting the blame onto people who are not supportive is keeping Leppard away from what really is the problem. In my view, they got too corrupted by the music business and Slang was that pivotal album.

I have a question for fans, if Def Leppard did a concert and all they played were their songs from Slang, Euphoria and X, would you still go? And if you would go, would you also expect the band to give you something in return like a drum stick, a guitar pic, an autograph, a photo with them, maybe something to say that you were acknowledged by them? This is what has happened to their fans.

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I can remember when Slang first came out thinking that it was horrible, but it very slowly grew on me. Euphoria was more immediate in its acceptance and X even more so.

Truth be told, Def Leppard has really grown as musicians and I have grown to LOVE each of their albums. Maybe they don't sell 10 million albums anymore, but DAMN! do they put out incredible albums.

I'm sure the band would love to sell more records, but from a strictly selfish point of view, I am very happy with their output lately.

They do however, from a musical standpoint, seriously miss Steve. Vivian may have upgraded the lyrics, but its the song that matters in the end.

RIP Steve

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I actually quite like Slang - I didn't when I first got it, but it defintiely grew on me big time.......the only song I don't really like is the title track, which for me could be a boy band track!
The weakest album they have released IMO is 'Adrenalize'.......Slang is a bit different, but that certainly doesn't mean it's no good.

Long winded assertations to the contrary not withstanding, to me, Slang is a better album than 'X', which is very weak as well.


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Slang is my most favorite CD from the band. All the songs on it are great! It does take a little getting used to, but it is well wirth it!


Although my favorites can change on a weekly basis......Slang remains my favorite too!!

The song "Slang" is just pure......unadulterated FUN........absolutely LOVE it!!! Very Happy

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Well well.......the prodigal daughter returns!
You know, I listened to 'Pyromania' the other day for the first time in about two years.......it really reinforced how poppy songs like 'Slang' really are. It is catchy though, I admit.
You can actually hear guitars on 'Pyromania' too!! Very Happy


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I'm not a fan of 'SLANG', and I think a majority of Def Leppard fans will always see it as the worst album when compared to the rest. IMO.

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Yep......could be the majority of fans see it as their worst........but to me, it's my favorite. But it also has my least favorite Def Leppard song on it too......can't stand "Work It Out".....

I'm actually not a big fan of HND or OTTN that much...guess I'm just a poppy princess Laughing .....but there are some really great songs IMO on each and every album..... no one album is what I would call "perfect" or the ultimate........ I find good in every one. Very Happy


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Good to see you back MJ. Very Happy

'Work it out' for me is the best song of 'SLANG'. Shocked

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Good to see you back MJ. Very Happy

'Work it out' for me is the best song of 'SLANG'. Shocked


Thanks Mr. Rock........you're a doll!! Wink Very Happy

Shocked ack!!!! LOL.....different strokes and all that, eh??!! Wink Laughing


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Good to see you back MJ. Very Happy

'Work it out' for me is the best song of 'SLANG'. Shocked


Couldn't agree more!

I personally feel the the song Slang fits bizzarely on what is a superb album otherwise. (Like "allnight" on Euphoria....YUK!...I wish they'd steer clear of this kinda stuff!)

Mj's right though...yer average DL fan regard this album as their weakest which I feel is unjust. DL are a band that up & til that point were evolving. The follow-up "Euphoria" although brought back the trademark 80's stlye Leppard for me was a bizzare turnaround. They hinted at Slangs origins with the Retroactive compilation of odds & sods which altogether had a more raw, earthy feel to it. I think "X" follows on from Slang beautifully, although Rock-lite in it's make up, it's were the band feel they wanna be on the 00's.

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I personally feel the the song Slang fits bizzarely on what is a superb album otherwise. (Like "allnight" on Euphoria....YUK!...I wish they'd steer clear of this kinda stuff!)


Laughing LMAO!!! Awwwww......c'mon!! I LOVE the song "All Night" too!!! Laughing It's one of those you can't HELP but giggle to!!

Can't you just picture them in the recording studio, doing this song???? Ohhhhh yeahhhhh......give it to me baby!!! Laughing


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I personally feel the the song Slang fits bizzarely on what is a superb album otherwise. (Like "allnight" on Euphoria....YUK!...I wish they'd steer clear of this kinda stuff!)


Laughing LMAO!!! Awwwww......c'mon!! I LOVE the song "All Night" too!!! Laughing It's one of those you can't HELP but giggle to!!

Can't you just picture them in the recording studio, doing this song???? Ohhhhh yeahhhhh......give it to me baby!!! Laughing


I suppose you LOVE the song "Gravity" off the "X" album too? lol Wink

I'm only messin with ya! Very Happy

I've always loved pretty much everything the Lepps have done over the years including all the stuff they have done in their so called "decline from the top" but, I just think the Cheesey "Sugar" wannabes are starting to wear a bit thin.

Roll on the next album....however it presents itself!

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I suppose you LOVE the song "Gravity" off the "X" album too? lol Wink

I'm only messin with ya! Very Happy


Shocked Ummmmm......yep!!! Actually it's one of, if not my favorite song from "X"!!! Laughing

Laughing Quit pickin' on me, or I'll get you, my pretty!!! Twisted Evil Laughing Laughing Laughing

YES!!! Totally agree with "Roll on the next album....however it presents itself!"

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I did not like Slang the first time I heard it but boy did it grow on me after 5 to 10 listens especially the title track, Slang, All I Want Is Everything and Where doe love go when it dies?? Most people probably heard Work it Out and decided Lepp was finished because it did not sound like old Leppard. I am probably in the minority but I like the Lepp's last 3 albums. I enjoy the diversity, and the fact they can showcase their talent as musicians doing acoustic, grunge, hard rock and soft rock. Another well known band used to experiment with different sounds...their name was Led Zeppelin! It is probably no surprise I like "X" as well. Although the Lepps are not as popular as they once were, I applaud the fact they were brave enough to change and re-invent themsleves and make a cd such as Slang. Critical acclaim it did receive, astronomical sales it did not. But 3 million worldwide is still a feat..........!

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In response to PPS: In regards to Malvin.....going from guitar tech (setting up the same euipment night after night and sitting there making sure nothing goes wrong with sound or equipment during a show...which usually doesn't) to full fledge band Tour Manager (being in charge of the bands daily itinerary (radio shows, meet & greets, soundchecks, food etc...), what shows they will be playing, on what days, hotels, travel plans, which Countries to play, pass ports, did I mention world travel? Probably even some of the finacial aspects of the tour etc...I'm sure I haven't even reached the tip of the ice berg on the responsibilities, so in my opinion, this is quite the job promotion.
As far as Vivian Cambell joining the band....why would Joe Elliot change his story? It went down how it went down...they wanted a seasoned talented experienced professional who has proved himself while playing on albums and touring for the likes of Dio & Whitesnake who have toured arenas etc....as opposed to hiring some new guy who hasn't proved himself...what's wrong with that? Most any job field goes by that stature....Experience is everything.

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I love Leppards music a lot. The band need to do more promotional work themselves, and try and come across as nice people. Joe Elliott is always on a downer - he needs to smile and be positive.

The record company need to try and attach Leppards music to either commericals or a blockbuster film to get the music out there to the people who would normally not hear it.

If they all do their jobs they will reap the rewards. They'll probably never have the success of the 80's but they can do something to rejuvenate interest.


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...they wanted a seasoned talented experienced professional who has proved himself while playing on albums and touring for the likes of Dio & Whitesnake


Since joining Def Leppard, Vivian Campbell has told music journalists and fans that he does not want to be associated with Dio or Whitesnake. He only wants to be affiliated with Def Leppard. He shot down his own record. Vivian Campbell made himself like somebody who came from no place because he does not want anyone to remember that he played in Dio or Whitesnake and he claimed that he does not even like Rock Music. But he plays Steve Clark's melodies during the concerts and that is Rock Music.

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