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Home of the Brave - Dogs of Oz

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:51 am

The whole livestream/dvd was great - but I keep returning to this one in particular. Maybe it's because I saw them last perform the tune in Philly when I thought I would never see/hear it performed live again. Either way, its a bravura performance and Sput is soo in the pocket here. Legalities be damned, this lineup needs to get in a studio and write/record, because there's an energy here I haven't seen in ages. Pure fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YGsf_zfD4
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Re: Home of the Brave - Dogs of Oz

Postby r@y » Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:53 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The whole livestream/dvd was great - but I keep returning to this one in particular. Maybe it's because I saw them last perform the tune in Philly when I thought I would never see/hear it performed live again. Either way, its a bravura performance and Sput is soo in the pocket here. Legalities be damned, this lineup needs to get in a studio and write/record, because there's an energy here I haven't seen in ages. Pure fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YGsf_zfD4


Yeah agree.....

I loved the livestream too, although personally I felt like there were some spots Sput kinda overdid it and Luke's guitar tone just didn't sit best with my ear, but I will watch and listen to anything these guys put out.

I guess they CAN work on an album, but I also think they would never be able to call it TOTO anymore.

Really sad that the band had to go down the way it did....I think Luke, Paich, Joe and Steve P would've carried the torch for years to come....what a shame
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Re: Home of the Brave - Dogs of Oz

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:53 am

r@y wrote:
Really sad that the band had to go down the way it did....I think Luke, Paich, Joe and Steve P would've carried the torch for years to come....what a shame


When Weezer did Africa on a late night show, SP was there to represent the band. With Paich being ill, SP could have stepped up to held lead the band with Luke. Ultimately, as time went by, he slightly disgraced his own legacy. The band showed such a renewed appreciation for his sonic contributions. If you doubt his genius, just listen to some of the synth stuff going on in Great Expectations (wow!). Now it's all gone. It's a shame. But I think Steve Maggiora could do alot of cool new synth stuff too - if given the chance.
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Re: Home of the Brave - Dogs of Oz

Postby Sundet » Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:11 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
When Weezer did Africa on a late night show, SP was there to represent the band. With Paich being ill, SP could have stepped up to held lead the band with Luke. Ultimately, as time went by, he slightly disgraced his own legacy.


Well, if I were to step up and co-lead a band, and spend 150 days on the road doing it, I'd at least demand that I be made a fully incorporated member, as it were. Rightly or wrongly, this happens to be exactly what Steve Porcaro put forward.

As for him not putting up emotional or financial support in the face of Lukather's and Paich's legal battle with the Jeff & Mike Porcaro estates, I have yet to see the following concerns brought into the equation: Firstly, should Steve Porcaro be reasonably expected to take a firm, uncompromising stand against members of his extended family in a legal case he is nominally not party to? Indeed, especially if he considered said members to be in the right, as the court settlement appear to confirm? Secondly, should Steve Porcaro, as a salaried unincorporated member of the band, as it were, be reasonably expected to contribute financially to a legal case he nominally has nothing to do with? Indeed, not being an incorporated member or band manager, I doubt Steve Porcaro has had anything to do with the band's income distribution or accounts, to which the Jeff & Mike Porcaro estates seem to have taken exception.

It is obvious that relations within the touring group were very strained and that Steve Porcaro was not happy at all (and probably made no attempt to hide it, thereby contributing to said state of relations), but there are always two sides or more to every story or allegation.
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