Styx Current Setlist - Most of DDY songs......

[Monker]

Post it in the Biden forum and I'll reply to it.

[yogi]

You two started the BS

Got start another coup or look at your Hamas brothers & sisters starting a real insurrection.

[Monker]

You all give it a rest.

It’s like trying to have a conversation with the 100% corrupt Far Far Left Libtards. You could introduce them to all the families totally destroyed by their open border ( garner me some votes ) policies

We do not have an open border and I have not heard ANY politician endorse an open border. That is a Republican lie.

introduce them to all the right leaning Republicans who agree weapons of war should not be sold to the general public

If Republicans believed this, they would pass the assault weapons ban. They don't believe it, and won't ever pass it as long as they have enough power in congress to block it.

but before you stop or limit sales to law abiding citizens you need to get all the guns off the streets and away from the gangs and criminals first.

NOBODY is going to agree to some type of gun seizure law. That is beyond ridiculous.

Talk to the leaders of Australia on what to do. They had ONE mass shooting and that is all that it took to pass strict gun control laws and they have had no issues since. In the US, we have had literally hundreds of mass shootings since Columbine and all that happens is "thoughts and prayers". And, I believe they DID seize the guns.

P.S.S…Would not dare to bring up the riots and how we all got to watch cities burn.

Funny how all of that happened under Trump and stopped after Biden was elected. Overall, crime has fallen under Biden and is at a 50yr low...according to the FBI : https://counciloncj.org/crime-trends-in ... 23-update/

Trump and Republicans like to lie a LOT about crime.

Thank god Covid doesn’t affect Dem protestors.

The FACT is that more COVID deaths occurred in Republican states then in Democrat states...if those tens of thousands of people survived, Trump may have won reelection. Too bad he was an absolutely horrible leader during the COVID crisis.

Add to it the great withdrawal from Afghanistan.

At least Biden got us out of there...Trump did not even try.

Little known fact the 21 + major Afghan/US military supporters that we trusted & their families that our Government promised safe passage to the US that we left behind we got 8 of them out according to my good US military stud buddy. The rest and ALL of their families they couldn’t find. It’s assumed they were all slaughtered.

It does not make it a "fact" just cuz somebody told you that. It's sad that people died, honestly. But, they were in a war zone...moving a family there is not a wise thing and they should have anticipated the worse.

[Monker]

You two started the BS

Fine, we can do it here. Doesn't bother me....I thought it bothered you...guess not.

Got start another coup or look at your Hamas brothers & sisters starting a real insurrection.

When a gang of assholes break into the Capitol of the US with the goal to stop the election process and hang the vice President, it is a coup and, IMO, ANYBODY who set foot in the building that day should spend a significant portion of their life in jail. 200yrs ago, they would have been shot or hung for treason.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

You know, Dennis DeYoung himself could show up at Suite's door, state that he was wrong, swear that he was a dictator who forced Styx to do his bidding, agree that his firing was justified, and still Suite would deny it because it does not jibe with the narrative that Suite has spent the last 25 years building and believing. It's pointless to argue or debate because Suite will never believe or even concede to anything but what's been said by Suite for 25 years now. Argue and deflect, refuse to see any other side, that's straight out of the playbook.

It's a new day, time to move on.

I thought you were done responding? You never respond to facts because you can’t.
Here, give a try an easy one:
Did Styx initially claim that Dennis had retired and passed the baton to Tommy in 1999. Yes or no?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

This is just ridiculous.

You talk about Chuck not being part of the new corporation, then I reply so you switch to talking about the BTM. You say I believe lies in a statement I never read nor commented on and I have always said that Dennis was fired and agree with that decision. Dennis has repeatedly said he was forced into the lawsuit because he was not being paid his share of revenue from the tour, not as a response to the BTM as you say here. You seem to have an innate inability to see any perspective other than Dennis' and believe that everything he says is golden and nothing else matters or is a lie. You call me a troll when the forum was having a nice and fun chat, posting video clips, etc, then you came in and puked these 25yr old Dennis arguments on the forum. You say the old quote from you was you trying to reconcile the forum when it was actually you replying to a thread I started questioning who you were because I thought I knew you.

You have proven to me that you; shift to a new topic when you have no answer for what somebody says, have a general inability to see any other perspective other than Dennis', resort to insults and calling people trolls when they do not give in to yours and/or Dennis' will, resort to lying and inventing things about other posters, and you have an inability to move on from what happened 25yrs ago. You are like a child who had her candy taken away and allowed that incident to affect your psyche so much that you still whine about not having enough candy 25yrs later.

As Cassie was saying, there really is no point in engaging you in any conversation. You do not converse, you dictate, lie, insult, shift topics, and sometimes even make things up. it's just a waste of time. And, just like MAGA, your first instinct is to take what I just wrote and turn it around and say it is actually me doing these things. Whatever.

I answered your ignorant assumptions with facts and you claim I changed the subject. No I did not.
One more time for the willingly blind.
TMB was formed before Dennis sued. It was formed before they went on tour in 1999. Fact
Dennis has said he didn’t sue until after he watched BTM in interviews.

The BTM reference was not changing the subject and you know it. It was refuting your make believe nonsense about corporations as if you knew something which you don’t. That’s you avoiding facts.

Like Cassie May answer one simple question.
Did JY continually denigrate Kilroy and Mr. Roboto and Dennis’s ballads since 1999 in interviews? Yes or no?

You are a Troll ask the Journey people.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

So what. You posted this same crap over 20 years ago. Those who care don't need to go. Those who want to go buy tickets. It just doesn't matter any more.

Styx performing that Dennis DeYoung song (according to Suite) "Renegade". I saw this concert...almost 10yrs ago. Also fun that they play the studio version of "One With Everything" at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBWHweiLfQ

It matters to those of us who prefer Styx with Dennis and yes want one last tour.
It matters to those of us who were on the right side of the argument all these years and knew Dennis’s crime in 1999 was to get sick
It matters to us who loved all aspects of Styx not just one subset nor one member.
It matters to us who hated the lies Tommy and JY spread about Styx music by demeaning certain songs we loved.
It matters to those who prefer truth over lies.
It matters to those of us in the Styx community who were friends and enjoyed discussing our favorite group without having to choose sides.
It matters to us that people like you refuse to admit to being fooled by the fooling yourself kings.


Tommy and JY sullied the Styx fan base and Styx reputation by claiming that they hated Mr. Roboto and Dennis’s ballads only to now praise them enthusiastically and make money from playing them in concert. They are hypocrites.
And despite all that would still like to see one last reunion.

And I want to see a Beatles reunion. It is not going to happen. DDY can't hack it. He hates to tour and I'm sure his voice has deteriorated even further now that he hasn't toured in 4 years. He's done. Even his daughter has said he has retied.

He toured from 2003 until 2020. That’s a fact and now you’re just repeating b.s.
You are sure his voice has deteriorated, how sure? Based on what, your secret wish?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Monker.........

7 of the 13 songs they make money off on this tour were written by Dennis. The majority. They could not have been a success by only playing Tommy and JY’s songs. Never, so don’t fool yourself.

You have never had a moment of reflection about them playing Mr. Roboto The song they said broke up the band and was a disaster to its prog fan base. ‘WE JUST WANT TO ROCK and now The Best of Times. Silence from you because you no answer. Unable as you are to admit being a fool to believe their lies. And lies they were.

You decided that a band firing its lead singer 25 years is nothing. How about their leader, most successful and prolific songwriter and whose voice and songs put Styx on the map. Don't try that ‘’lead singer’’ nonsense around here.

Dennis was fired over money. There were no conflicts at that time. Dennis brought Tommy back in 1995, Dennis no on else could have.
Tommy wanted to dump the Brave New Album album because there wasn’t any money guaranteed without a tour. He needed money. Dennis contacted the record company for one reason and that was to let them know if the album was not completed it was not because of his illness.

They have not considered bringing back Dennis because the minute he began to sing the fans would know what fools the band has been not to have him. And they would never be as excited to see Styx without him. Plus they have no tour without his songs. And most importantly Tommy would no longer be number on that stage and as anyone can see everything now revolves around Tommy.

And DDY hired some guy to sing Tommy's songs at his concerts. By your standards Journey would need to eliminate almost their entire setlist and Foreigner would stand on stage and smile

Dennis hired August Zadra someone who brings authenticity and respect to Tommy’s songs. Not someone who sounds nothing like Dennis.

Steve Perry and Journey’s situation are completely different. Perry does not want to rejoin the band. You are right if you eliminate Perry’s songs who’s buying Journey tickets to hear Greg Rollie, nobody.

And Foreigner has no members who played on their hits. At least Foreigner’s singer sounds enough like Lou to justify his hiring.
We were wondering where you’ve been. This post was about 53% of Styx’s current tour being DEYOUNG’S songs. including Mr. Roboto and Best of Times. You have remained silent, why?

[Monker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSc3FOoecuM

[Cassie May]

I thought you were done responding? You never respond to facts because you can’t.
Here, give a try an easy one:
Did Styx initially claim that Dennis had retired and passed the baton to Tommy in 1999. Yes or no?

You know what, Suite? I don't know and, more importantly, I DON'T CARE.

By 1999, I was no longer following Styx, nor did I care about them. I was living my life, married, working, being a stepmom, didn't have a computer to be part of all the fan lunacy back then, so what Styx did or didn't do, say or didn't say, I DID NOT CARE. I still don't care, and I am astonished at people like you who seemingly have nothing better to do than argue and debate crap that happened 25 YEARS ago. I sincerely hope you have more to your life than this; if not, I feel sorry for you.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

You two started the BS

Fine, we can do it here. Doesn't bother me....I thought it bothered you...guess not.

Got start another coup or look at your Hamas brothers & sisters starting a real insurrection.

When a gang of assholes break into the Capitol of the US with the goal to stop the election process and hang the vice President, it is a coup and, IMO, ANYBODY who set foot in the building that day should spend a significant portion of their life in jail. 200yrs ago, they would have been shot or hung for treason.

Happy days Monker!
I finally agree with you on all your newest comments.
Not about Dennis but on the politics that somehow managed to sneak into this post.
I knew we could find common ground.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I thought you were done responding? You never respond to facts because you can’t.
Here, give a try an easy one:
Did Styx initially claim that Dennis had retired and passed the baton to Tommy in 1999. Yes or no?

You know what, Suite? I don't know and, more importantly, I DON'T CARE.

By 1999, I was no longer following Styx, nor did I care about them. I was living my life, married, working, being a stepmom, didn't have a computer to be part of all the fan lunacy back then, so what Styx did or didn't do, say or didn't say, I DID NOT CARE. I still don't care, and I am astonished at people like you who seemingly have nothing better to do than argue and debate crap that happened 25 YEARS ago. I sincerely hope you have more to your life than this; if not, I feel sorry for you.

This is typical of you from 2017 always seeing Dennis as the bad guy because your idol Tommy Shaw has lied to you. And now with Mr. Roboto and Best of Times being raved about by your two faced idol you suddenly are tried of rehashing. I don’t know what sites you’re reading but I dare you to read the comments on this video. They are over whelming in favor of a reunion and most think they screwed Dennis. Which they did. By the way I can go back even further to illustrate your adoration for Tommy and disdain for Dennis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTflI7kkWl4

Question number 2 which you can’t (won’t) answer.
Did JY spend the last 20 years complaining vociferously about Roboto Kilroy and Dennis’s ballads and the damage they did?
Yes or no?

[Cassie May]

I thought you were done responding? You never respond to facts because you can’t.
Here, give a try an easy one:
Did Styx initially claim that Dennis had retired and passed the baton to Tommy in 1999. Yes or no?

You know what, Suite? I don't know and, more importantly, I DON'T CARE.

By 1999, I was no longer following Styx, nor did I care about them. I was living my life, married, working, being a stepmom, didn't have a computer to be part of all the fan lunacy back then, so what Styx did or didn't do, say or didn't say, I DID NOT CARE. I still don't care, and I am astonished at people like you who seemingly have nothing better to do than argue and debate crap that happened 25 YEARS ago. I sincerely hope you have more to your life than this; if not, I feel sorry for you.

This is typical of you from 2017 always seeing Dennis as the bad guy because your idol Tommy Shaw has lied to you. And now with Mr. Roboto and Best of Times being raved about by your two faced idol you suddenly are tried of rehashing. I don’t know what sites you’re reading but I dare you to read the comments on this video. They are over whelming in favor of a reunion and most think they screwed Dennis. Which they did. By the way I can go back even further to illustrate your adoration for Tommy and disdain for Dennis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTflI7kkWl4

Question number 2 which you can’t (won’t) answer.
Did JY spend the last 20 years complaining vociferously about Roboto Kilroy and Dennis’s ballads and the damage they did?
Yes or no?

What about I DON'T CARE do you not understand?

I DON'T CARE.

[Monker]

What about I DON'T CARE do you not understand?

I DON'T CARE.

She doesn't care. Her only agenda is to get you to admit Styx "lied"...and to get you to reply to her crap so she can continue to keep the thread alive.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

What about I DON'T CARE do you not understand?

I DON'T CARE.

She doesn't care. Her only agenda is to get you to admit Styx "lied"...and to get you to reply to her crap so she can continue to keep the thread alive.

This is the second time we agree. First politics and now me wanting you and her and a couple others to admit that Styx lied about Dennis and his music. I promise if you do come clean I’ll never say another word about this.

[ChicagoSTYX]

This is the Styx Setlist on their current Foreigner & John Waite Tour:

THE GRAND ILLUSION - DEYOUNG
TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS - SHAW
LADY - DEYOUNG
LORELEI - DEYOUNG AND YOUNG
CRASH OF THE CROWN
MISS AMERICA - YOUNG
ROCKIN THE PARADISE - DEYOUNG YOUNG AND SHAW
BLUE COLLAR MAN - SHAW
BEST OF TIMES - DEYOUNG
FOOLIN YOURSELF - SHAW
COME SAIL AWAY - DEYOUNG

ENCORE
MR ROBOTO - DEYOUNG
RENEGADE - DEYOUNG


7 of the 13 songs Dennis DeYoung was involved in the writing.

5 by himself and 1 with James Young and 1 with Young & Tommy Shaw

This includes the "dreaded" DeYoung ballad BOT and the so called much despised Mr. Roboto which broke up the band and ruined it, according to them!!

TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BELIEVED THE LIES SHAW AND YOUNG SPREAD ABOUT DEYOUNG'S MUSIC, A MAJORITY OF THEIR SET 25 YEARS LATER IS BECAUSE OF DEYOUNG!

DDY did not write Renegade.

[ChicagoSTYX]

This is the Styx Setlist on their current Foreigner & John Waite Tour:

THE GRAND ILLUSION - DEYOUNG
TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS - SHAW
LADY - DEYOUNG
LORELEI - DEYOUNG AND YOUNG
CRASH OF THE CROWN
MISS AMERICA - YOUNG
ROCKIN THE PARADISE - DEYOUNG YOUNG AND SHAW
BLUE COLLAR MAN - SHAW
BEST OF TIMES - DEYOUNG
FOOLIN YOURSELF - SHAW
COME SAIL AWAY - DEYOUNG

ENCORE
MR ROBOTO - DEYOUNG
RENEGADE - DEYOUNG


7 of the 13 songs Dennis DeYoung was involved in the writing.

5 by himself and 1 with James Young and 1 with Young & Tommy Shaw

This includes the "dreaded" DeYoung ballad BOT and the so called much despised Mr. Roboto which broke up the band and ruined it, according to them!!

TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BELIEVED THE LIES SHAW AND YOUNG SPREAD ABOUT DEYOUNG'S MUSIC, A MAJORITY OF THEIR SET 25 YEARS LATER IS BECAUSE OF DEYOUNG!

Here is the current set list with the correct writers!

THE GRAND ILLUSION - DEYOUNG
TOO MUCH TIME- SHAW
LADY - DEYOUNG
LORELEI - DEYOUNG AND YOUNG
CRASH OF THE CROWN SHAW GOWAN EVVANKOVICH
CRYSTAL BALL. SHAW
MISS AMERICA - YOUNG
ROCKIN THE PARADISE - DEYOUNG YOUNG AND SHAW
MAN IN THE WILDERNESS. SHAW
BLUE COLLAR MAN - SHAW
BEST OF TIMES - DEYOUNG
OUR WONDERFUL LIVES. SHAW
FOOLIN YOURSELF - SHAW
KHEDIVE. GOWAN
COME SAIL AWAY - DEYOUNG

ENCORE
MR ROBOTO - DEYOUNG
RENEGADE - SHAW

DDY WROTE 5 OF THE 17 AND PART OF 2 MORE…..

[SuiteMadameBlue]

This is the Styx Setlist on their current Foreigner & John Waite Tour:

THE GRAND ILLUSION - DEYOUNG
TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS - SHAW
LADY - DEYOUNG
LORELEI - DEYOUNG AND YOUNG
CRASH OF THE CROWN
MISS AMERICA - YOUNG
ROCKIN THE PARADISE - DEYOUNG YOUNG AND SHAW
BLUE COLLAR MAN - SHAW
BEST OF TIMES - DEYOUNG
FOOLIN YOURSELF - SHAW
COME SAIL AWAY - DEYOUNG

ENCORE
MR ROBOTO - DEYOUNG
RENEGADE - DEYOUNG


7 of the 13 songs Dennis DeYoung was involved in the writing.

5 by himself and 1 with James Young and 1 with Young & Tommy Shaw

This includes the "dreaded" DeYoung ballad BOT and the so called much despised Mr. Roboto which broke up the band and ruined it, according to them!!

TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BELIEVED THE LIES SHAW AND YOUNG SPREAD ABOUT DEYOUNG'S MUSIC, A MAJORITY OF THEIR SET 25 YEARS LATER IS BECAUSE OF DEYOUNG!

Here is the current set list with the correct writers!

THE GRAND ILLUSION - DEYOUNG
TOO MUCH TIME- SHAW
LADY - DEYOUNG
LORELEI - DEYOUNG AND YOUNG
CRASH OF THE CROWN SHAW GOWAN EVVANKOVICH
CRYSTAL BALL. SHAW
MISS AMERICA - YOUNG
ROCKIN THE PARADISE - DEYOUNG YOUNG AND SHAW
MAN IN THE WILDERNESS. SHAW
BLUE COLLAR MAN - SHAW
BEST OF TIMES - DEYOUNG
OUR WONDERFUL LIVES. SHAW
FOOLIN YOURSELF - SHAW
KHEDIVE. GOWAN
COME SAIL AWAY - DEYOUNG

ENCORE
MR ROBOTO - DEYOUNG
RENEGADE - SHAW

DDY WROTE 5 OF THE 17 AND PART OF 2 MORE…..

Come on ChicagoStyx, did you read all the words that I wrote??? I never claimed Dennis wrote Renegade. He turned into a rock song because Tommy never wrote it as such - that has been mentioned a few times about Renegade!!!
Lucky Tommy. I said 7 of the 13 songs Dennis was INVOLVED in writing, 5 solo and two co writes. Go back and look at your list. More lies from you as liars defend liars. That’s the set they must perform for their summer tours because it’s trying to reach the widest audience. A huge thank you to Dennis for his songs and contributions!!!

[Jodes]

I already did answer all of this dated crap. They played "The Best of Times" in concert in the past....I saw it. People like you complained about it. Then they took it out, now they put it back. I really don't care. It's a song, it's not my life focus. As was said by someone else, "Mr. Roboto" back in the 80's was done "live" as the prerecorded album version...So, when they put an arrangement together and performed it live, people liked it so they kept it in. And, it was also in the CycloMedly...which you guys whined and cried about that, too. But, the fact is that BOTH of these songs have been performed since Dennis was fired. You and Dennis are acting like it is the first time they have performed them. Dennis, and you, are just using it as emotional manipulation to try to get people to argue his side. Ahhhhh, poor Dennis has his feelings hurt...don't we all feel soooo bad for him? Those Styx dudes are sooooo mean to him. Give me a break.

In the bigger picture, Styx has moved on from all of that 20yr old stuff. They have a freedom from all of that animosity, anger, jealousy, manipulation, and the toxic environment that went along with it. So, you, and Dennis, should be happy they have found some type of joy in that music...Instead, it is the same old dysfunction, toxicity, arrogance, and emotional manipulation that, IMO, kept Dennis out of the band...and convinced Tommy and the band to wash their hands of Dennis and never speak to him again.

You have still not answered the question because you can't.
If Mr. Roboto was so hated by them why bring it back except for money? The t shirt guy made them do it lol.
If Dennis's ballads ruined the band why play The Best of times and call it brilliant? I thought it was all Barry Manilow or Broadway.
If playing Best of Times once or twice in 25 years constitutes playing the song your are an idiot. They are playing the full songs prominently and according to them "proud to do it" That proof that you heard Best of Times and showing Renegade proves that you are untruthful. They did not play BOT in Iowa or anytime on that tour you are a liar.

Dennis didn't have his feelings hurt he had his musical and personal reputation sullied by hypocrites who make money off his talents. And then gullible pip squeaks like you who repeat their lies.

Why does the current band need to play more than half their set using his songs?
Styx has not moved on not when they keep adding Dennis's hits. They're moving back.
What happened to JY's and Chuck's animosity toward Tommy for quitting Styx?
Dennis brought Tommy back not JY or Chuck. Then Tommy stabbed him in the back.

Animosity, anger, toxicity, and emotional manipulation a are a perfect description of you.

Yeah and when Chuck was near death guess who the guy that said "if you don't perform on the album, you don't get any performance royalties, etc was? I'll give you a hint. (I believe that was right from Chuck's book).

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Yeah and when Chuck was near death guess who the guy that said "if you don't perform on the album, you don't get any performance royalties, etc was? I'll give you a hint. (I believe that was right from Chuck's book).

What does that have to with the songs played on their summer tour. Nothing. That story was a lie Tommy and JY told Chuck to anger him to vote with them to replace Dennis. It worked. They lied because they’re liars and they get you to believe it because it’s what you choose to believe. Also performance royalties? Do you know what that means? Dennis couldn’t care less because the record company pays and has no baring on the other members. They lied. They always lie.

[Monker]

Come on ChicagoStyx, did you read all the words that I wrote??? I never claimed Dennis wrote Renegade.

What the fuck are you talking about? I mocked this after you posted it MONTHS AGO. In the quote that ChicagoStyx posted, YOU GAVE DENNIS WRITING CREDIT FOR RENEGADE. Do YOU even read the stuff you write? Do YOU even read the stuff you reply to and quote? I don't think so.

Like I said, and you admitted to, all you give a shit about is this STUPID argument that Styx lied and Dennis is a saint. You care about that BULLSHIT so much that you don't even read your own posts nor what you are replying to. You are the very definition of an internet troll.

[Monker]

Yeah and when Chuck was near death guess who the guy that said "if you don't perform on the album, you don't get any performance royalties, etc was? I'll give you a hint. (I believe that was right from Chuck's book).

The bottom line is, all Suite wants to do is bait you into replying to her shit. The more she posts, the more she proves that she is just a worthless troll. Just let her rant and rave and pout like a baby trying to start an argument. Since she is essentially Dennis' surrogate poster, all she does, IMO, is add even more evidence on why Dennis was fired should never be part of the band again. It is pretty obvious that all his (or his surrogates) presence does is bring a toxic environment and drama.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

You’re right Monker and Chicago Styx it was my mistake. I did accidentally give Dennis credit.

The numbers however were correct 7 of the 13 songs are Dennis’s. 5 solo 2 co writes. The argument is the same considering they are playing Mr.Roboto and a sappy DeYoung ballad. The last 3 songs in their performance with Foreigner were Come Sail Away last set song. Roboto first encore then finally Renegade,
They end the performance with 2 of three being Dennis songs.
I just did something you are incapable of and that’s admitting when you were wrong.
As far as evidence what I post has nothing to do with Dennis. Why would a fan’s posts be evidence of why Dennis should never be allowed back? You make no sense.
The real evidence is clear they are liars about Dennis’s music and have been for 25 years and suckers like you swallowed it. TS Has revised his opinions about Dennis’s music for cash and proved to be the number hypocrite and liar.
You and CS have never acknowledged the fact that they attacked Dennis to avoid the wrath of fans for replacing a sick member.

And you (Monker) are the troll on MR and everyone knows it.

[Andrew]

Ok folks. Let’s move on from the insults.

[Monker]

Ok folks. Let’s move on from the insults.

She IS a troll. Delete the thread and see if Suite tries to move this argument to a new one:

She doesn't care. Her only agenda is to get you to admit Styx "lied"...and to get you to reply to her crap so she can continue to keep the thread alive.

This is the second time we agree. First politics and now me wanting you and her and a couple others to admit that Styx lied about Dennis and his music. I promise if you do come clean I’ll never say another word about this.

That is Suite admitting that she is only posting here to make this ridiculous argument about Styx lying and getting certain people here to admit it. That is the ONLY agenda in her posting....and the very definition of a troll.

That is not an insult...it is what she is. She is trolling...and she admits it above.

MY reaction is to call a troll a troll...and to tell people to not go for her baiting and never reply to her posts....and, yeah, you're right, no insults required. All people need to do is ignore her crap.

Like I said, delete the thread...

[Andrew]

I'll delete if and when I see fit.

Now MOVE ON.

[Monker]

I'll delete if and when I see fit.

Now MOVE ON.

You are not understanding what I am saying. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your forum. What I am saying is whether this thread exists or not, Suite's stated purpose here is her agenda to force the quoted conversation down this forum's throat. I have stated to move on. Cassie stated to move on. We both have stated we DO NOT CARE. THAT is not the issue here.

[yogi]

Styx (Tommy,JY & Jim Cahil) did 100% lie on the Behind The Music Styx episode.

I love current Styx and completely support them. Still the fact of the matter is they lied to force Dennis out of the group so they could tour as much as they want and make huge$$$$$$. Also they now get to play and record the music they want to play with the people they want to play with.

They are happy and I'm happy for them cause that's what life is about. But their happiness the past 25 years in part has been built on Dennis's perseverance, Dennis's talent, and the lies that they told about Dennis that slandered him.

IMO they in no way had to slander their ex friend and bandmate to get what they have now.

[Monker]

Styx (Tommy,JY & Jim Cahil) did 100% lie on the Behind The Music Styx episode.

I love current Styx and completely support them. Still the fact of the matter is they lied to force Dennis out of the group so they could tour as much as they want and make huge$$$$$$. Also they now get to play and record the music they want to play with the people they want to play with.

They are happy and I'm happy for them cause that's what life is about. But their happiness the past 25 years in part has been built on Dennis's perseverance, Dennis's talent, and the lies that they told about Dennis that slandered him.

IMO they in no way had to slander their ex friend and bandmate to get what they have now.

So, you would rather argue about what was said in the BTM from 24yrs ago than talk about the current events of the band, the last album, the current and future tour, the ideas they posted about on FB about a classic rock cruise and what other bands to invite, how Terry Gowan is fitting in, any new album news...all of that is trumped by your desire to argue about how the band "really" felt about Kilroy, the Kilroy tour, and whatever other "lies" you feel they told 24yrs ago.

That is sad, very sad...and this forum is dying because of that sick desire to not let things go from a quarter century ago.

Why should anybody post about ANYTHING when Dennis' psyche will not let it go, and his fans follow him down that rabbit hole constantly and not let ANYTHING else be talked about?

If you are such a fan of the current band, prove it and talk about it.

[yogi]

Talk about them all the time Monk. I've seen them 9 times without Dennis. Their 99 concert in San Antonio @ The Far West Rodeo was one of my all time favorite concerts ever Their concert this past June at The Woodlands in Houston was absolutely fantastic. They NEVER disappoint live. Far Far too much talent & showmanship. Gowan is the greatest performer I've ever seen live. Every time he tops the time before. Todd is a MONSTER on the drums. Loved Glen & Ricky.... Cyclorama was a fantastic album. The Mission & Crash Of The Crown IMO rival The Grand Illusion & Pieces Of Eight.

Last night I got tickets to see Dream Theater @ Radio City Music Hall in March. My son just moved to NY. We are going to the show for his birthday even though he's a lukewarm fan of DT. Gonna see them first Feb 15 in Dallas. I love that band. It will only be the second time I've seen Dream Theater with Mike Portnoy. In the same vein, I guarantee if Styx were to play The Mission & Crash Of The Crown back to back in a concert I would fly out anywhere in the US to see it. Also, I'm 60 now and still want to be Tommy Shaw when I grow up. Am I praising them enough for you. Still with that said and they are all truths Tommy, JY and Cahil TOTALLY fuc ked Dennis over with the lies they told about him on Behind The Music. All they had to do is tell their ex bandmate & friend was "we like it better now without you". End of story.


Heres the real deal that you wont ever admit. You HATE Dennis. That's the real story. It's actually the only story. How damn twisted is it that you hate someone that you dont even know? You may think you know him but you dont.

And finally, I filled out their survey that I would go to Florida to see Styx if the dates worked for my wife and I. Put the other bands I would like to see play with them too.