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Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:54 pm
by Archetype
Ashamed to say I've never heard this song before this morning. Definitely an overlooked Styx gem. Must be the only Styx song with Glen, Tommy and Dennis as credited songwriters. What a formidable writing team

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:07 am
by ChicagoSTYX
Archetype wrote:Ashamed to say I've never heard this song before this morning. Definitely an overlooked Styx gem. Must be the only Styx song with Glen, Tommy and Dennis as credited songwriters. What a formidable writing team


I believe this is the first recording with Todd on drums although he is not credited.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:09 am
by Archetype
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Archetype wrote:Ashamed to say I've never heard this song before this morning. Definitely an overlooked Styx gem. Must be the only Styx song with Glen, Tommy and Dennis as credited songwriters. What a formidable writing team


I believe this is the first recording with Todd on drums although he is not credited.


That's what made me listen to the song. Todd was talking about it in an interview. Styx thought the song would require two drum passes. Todd said he could do it in one and amazed them. Though didn't Lady '95 come first?

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:49 am
by LtVanish
Glen Burtnik and Bob Burger wrote the song originally for Glen's Polookaville solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtDhUXOODH4

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:51 pm
by ChicagoSTYX
Archetype wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Archetype wrote:Ashamed to say I've never heard this song before this morning. Definitely an overlooked Styx gem. Must be the only Styx song with Glen, Tommy and Dennis as credited songwriters. What a formidable writing team


I believe this is the first recording with Todd on drums although he is not credited.


That's what made me listen to the song. Todd was talking about it in an interview. Styx thought the song would require two drum passes. Todd said he could do it in one and amazed them. Though didn't Lady '95 come first?


I had forgotten about Lady 95. I didn't know Todd played on that that.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:13 pm
by FormerDJMike
Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:09 pm
by ChicagoSTYX
FormerDJMike wrote:Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.


So it would appear that between the time of recording the son of edge demos 1992? And Lady 95, John really went down hill health wise.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:24 pm
by Toph
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
FormerDJMike wrote:Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.


So it would appear that between the time of recording the son of edge demos 1992? And Lady 95, John really went down hill health wise.


John wasn't even all that well during the Edge tour in 1991. Functional, but not at his prime.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:28 pm
by ChicagoSTYX
Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
FormerDJMike wrote:Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.


So it would appear that between the time of recording the son of edge demos 1992? And Lady 95, John really went down hill health wise.


John wasn't even all that well during the Edge tour in 1991. Functional, but not at his prime.


I attended the Chicago show on that tour and John and his fiancé were married on stage during the concert.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:17 pm
by Toph
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
So it would appear that between the time of recording the son of edge demos 1992? And Lady 95, John really went down hill health wise.


John wasn't even all that well during the Edge tour in 1991. Functional, but not at his prime.


I attended the Chicago show on that tour and John and his fiancé were married on stage during the concert.


Non sequitur - you can still not be in your prime and still get married

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:15 pm
by pinkfloyd1973
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
I attended the Chicago show on that tour and John and his fiancé were married on stage during the concert.




I was there too, at The World Music Theatre in Tinley Park

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:15 pm
by FormerDJMike
I was there too! Drove all the way from Tennessee. Was going to drive by myself and I told a friend about it he said "Styx in Chicago??? I'M IN!" and we went. Also went the next night in Millwaukee. It was actually a fan StyxCon. We met a bunch of other fans and had a get together. Probably around 20-30 of us all stayed at the same hotel, watched VHS videos, traded bootleg tapes and posters, etc. I enjoyed the Millwaukee show better because it was indoors and we had better seats. I still have both of my Edge tour shirts and they still fit but I don't wear them anymore.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:46 am
by masque
Toph wrote:
ChicagoSTYX wrote:
FormerDJMike wrote:Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.


So it would appear that between the time of recording the son of edge demos 1992? And Lady 95, John really went down hill health wise.


John wasn't even all that well during the Edge tour in 1991. Functional, but not at his prime.



yeh i actually got to meet him on that tour in Cincy and when I walked away, both my brother and I said, man he doesnt look well. he played great that night, but meeting him up close and personal worried me regarding his health.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:52 am
by FormerDJMike
I remember on RockLine in 1990 all of them were on the show. They asked what everyone was doing and when they got to John they said "so what have you been up to?" and it was dead silent. I thought it kind of odd. Then he said "well, I've been practicing and my arms hurt for 3 weeks.... This is Chuck by the way" and they all laughed and then moved on. I also thought it odd that he got "help" during the drum part (on the tour) of "World Tonight" but it was also a pretty cool mini-solo from John.

FF to around 3 minutes. You really can't see but there were two other drummers there with John.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lRsAM04ahU

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:21 pm
by Zan
LtVanish wrote:Glen Burtnik and Bob Burger wrote the song originally for Glen's Polookaville solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtDhUXOODH4



Thank you. Styx changed a couple words and took writing credit. lol

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:56 am
by Toph
Zan wrote:
LtVanish wrote:Glen Burtnik and Bob Burger wrote the song originally for Glen's Polookaville solo album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtDhUXOODH4



Thank you. Styx changed a couple words and took writing credit. lol


Styx Wrote the chorus and the bridge...But let's conveniently forget about that. #fakenews

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:05 am
by ztyxlynne
I remember them playing the song libe in Milwaukee. Does anyone have any live recording or video?

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:58 pm
by Abitaman
ztyxlynne wrote:I remember them playing the song libe in Milwaukee. Does anyone have any live recording or video?

Somewhere I do. Just moved to Venice Florida 3 weeks ago, so a lot of things are still boxed up.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:02 pm
by Jodes
Abitaman wrote:
ztyxlynne wrote:I remember them playing the song libe in Milwaukee. Does anyone have any live recording or video?

Somewhere I do. Just moved to Venice Florida 3 weeks ago, so a lot of things are still boxed up.


Little Suzie or World Tonight?

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:06 am
by Abitaman
Jodes wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
ztyxlynne wrote:I remember them playing the song libe in Milwaukee. Does anyone have any live recording or video?

Somewhere I do. Just moved to Venice Florida 3 weeks ago, so a lot of things are still boxed up.


Little Suzie or World Tonight?


Actually have edge of the century tour with world tonight and their greatest hits tour or think it's the Grand Illusion tour 20th anniversary something like that it has little Susie

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:20 am
by Jodes
FormerDJMike wrote:Yeah, Todd ghost played both songs. They had every intention of John coming back. I read an interview where Todd was talking about recording Lady 95 and how he used a ton of tape on his drums to give them a 70's sound. It is very sad that John was too ill to even record a studio track or two. I love the song and even remember hearing it on the radio when it was new.



Mike - According to a FB post from Dennis, (I believe it was re-posted a few weeks ago) John actually played on "It Takes Love", and it was the last track he performed with with the band. Dennis says he was in the studio with him, and although not in the greatest shape, he managed to get through the song.

With that said, I went back and listened to the Son Of Edge Version of "It Takes Love" - No drums, no guitar solo. Then listening to the GH2 version - WOW. Keeping Glen's vocals, adding in JY and Tommy's (Especially Tommy's) everything just "Clicked". Tommy's guitar solo, etc. I know it's technically Glen's song, but what DDY did to "tweak" it from that Demo was Brilliance.

Re: Little Suzie

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:23 am
by Jodes
FormerDJMike wrote:I remember on RockLine in 1990 all of them were on the show. They asked what everyone was doing and when they got to John they said "so what have you been up to?" and it was dead silent. I thought it kind of odd. Then he said "well, I've been practicing and my arms hurt for 3 weeks.... This is Chuck by the way" and they all laughed and then moved on. I also thought it odd that he got "help" during the drum part (on the tour) of "World Tonight" but it was also a pretty cool mini-solo from John.

FF to around 3 minutes. You really can't see but there were two other drummers there with John.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lRsAM04ahU


I believe Keith Marks said he was one of the other "percussionists" so maybe the other fellow was John Drum Tech?