2006 Survivor, McAuley Boot

[Slander]

The criticisms seem like they have gone on for ever.

No.

THAT would be the space between Survivor albums.

didn't they have an album last year?

[Red13JoePa]

The criticisms seem like they have gone on for ever.

No.

THAT would be the space between Survivor albums.

didn't they have an album last year?

Depends on where you live.

[Eyeof]

Now come on red...with a credit card, internet connection and $65 you can easily find that album on line out of Peru somewhere...

Or if you had itunes during that one week it was offered, you could have gotten it there...

As for Slander, I just wonder what color the sky is in the world you live in...how is pointing out the facts, being negative? How is wanting to hear decent music out of your favorite band an unreasonable request?

Maybe we are negative at times, but I tell you this...I wasn't until Frankie lied to me. Yes Lied...Fact...maybe I thought firing dave and going back on his word and all that he had said, was negative. Maybe he is negative...at any rate, that's fact.

Also, maybe you are just a little to slanted to what you want to see...You rave of productivity of the band this year...show it to me? And yes, I know...they were on DWTS...how many times can that be watched? What did it get them or us as fans? Where's the album? The t-shirts? anything...

Everyone on the board knows why they were on that show, and that's all song. I really think you know that as well.

As for Robin's voice...if someone doesn't like it. That's their right. I don't personally like it at all. It sounds nothing like Survivor and I have that right.

I know, I know...you'll rave on about the new stuff. Well let's face it, this isn't exactly a band that lives on new material.

Do you honestly think there are 100 people in the entire world that can name one Survivor song recorded after 2000?

I'll say it again to be you to the point...Yes, they stunk with Jimi last year...I saw them...Awful... but that doesn't mean this year is so great either...

Sadly these days, we have some low rate kevin debrow soundalike playing with Frankie, we have JJ doing what JJ does and Dave sings Beer Commercials....

It's unfair...always was....as lesser bands power forward...

[Slander]

Now come on red...with a credit card, internet connection and $65 you can easily find that album on line out of Peru somewhere...
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Once again you guys have no clue. Reach is easy to get. Here's the linkhttp://nehrecords.com/shop/Survivor ... tm#FRCD282

Quit making up bs. I realize when you don't have facts on your side you must resort to calling Frankie a liar or Robin a bad singer yadda yadda yadda. I for one would like to see this board focus on Survivor's future and not this bullshit. That's exactly what it is. Frankie lied. Robin Sucks. Waaa! You guys don't need computers. You need high chairs. Enough with the crying.

[Eyeof]

My friend..Frankie lied is a fact... the fact that I don't really like Robin's voice...is a facts...matter of opinion, but that fact that it is my opinion is a fact...

In FACT...everything that I said is a FACT. I guess we'll concentrate on future when they give us one...

Did you know that the DWTS performance that you constantly talk about...is in the past...

Did you know that JJ and all his problems that you always seem to mention is the past as well...

It seems the past is okay when it's you using it, just not for the rest of us...

If you aren't frankie, you should be....you make about as much sense...and you've put out as many albums in the U.S. since '89.....

[Eyeof]

In addition, I'm sorry if the fact that Frankie is a bold faced, two bit, hipocrital liar is too much of a fact for you to handle...

Yes, i can move on, but not when you constantly make shite (as you say) up to glorify him....I know i do...and i think i speak for a lot of people when I say we get tired of it...

I'm a fan of the band just as much as you are, but I'm not going to completely lie about the way I feel to make Frankie Sullivan look good...why would I? I used to be just like you, before I found out the real truth, so it's hard to hold it against you. You just don't know any better I guess.

[Slander]

In addition, I'm sorry if the fact that Frankie is a bold faced, two bit, hipocrital liar is too much of a fact for you to handle...

Yes, i can move on, but not when you constantly make shite (as you say) up to glorify him....I know i do...and i think i speak for a lot of people when I say we get tired of it...

I'm a fan of the band just as much as you are, but I'm not going to completely lie about the way I feel to make Frankie Sullivan look good...why would I? I used to be just like you, before I found out the real truth, so it's hard to hold it against you. You just don't know any better I guess.

How the fuck I'm a glorifying Frankie Sullivan? I like the cat. I do. He ain't perfect. I wish her were more open with the fans. I'm sorry you guys can't handle dissent on the board. I'm sorry for your experience. I am. I want to move forward and give this edition of Survivor a chance. What is wrong with that?

[Eyeof]

Nothing wrong with that at all...

and I sure hope it works out...but until there is a future, it seems all we have is the past...

I will say, i don't like Robin's vocals that much, but i have noticed the bands playing is better on those boots...

[Slander]

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I will say, i don't like Robin's vocals that much, but i have noticed the bands playing is better on those boots...

Now we are talking. I agree Robin's vocals don't seem to mesh with the songs. I'm wondering if it's because I'm expecting him to sound like Jimi or Dave. It's just going to take some time. I agree with you. I think the band sounds great. Have you heard much of Robin's solo work? I for one hope Survivor will adopt a heavier sound with him on leads. We shall see.

[Eyeof]

part of that may come from them trying to show up and play the songs the same, while at the same time expecting Robin to fill in that...I remember that when Motley Crue switched leads for a while, even thought they played the old stuff with John Corabi, it was reworked and actually made for a unique show and some good boots...they may need to do that on some stuff...Deconstruct it and build it back up around Robin...

[Slander]

.as lesser bands power forward...

I do agree with you that this band could have been so much bigger. The talent was there. I'm just glad they are still around. I don't think being on Scotti Brothers helped.

[Slander]

part of that may come from them trying to show up and play the songs the same, while at the same time expecting Robin to fill in that...I remember that when Motley Crue switched leads for a while, even thought they played the old stuff with John Corabi, it was reworked and actually made for a unique show and some good boots...they may need to do that on some stuff...Deconstruct it and build it back up around Robin...

That's a great idea. I also wish they would incoroporate some MSG songs if possible. Maybe that would help increase the fan base a little too. By the way Eye thanks for the Orlando boot. It is appreciated.

[Red13JoePa]

.as lesser bands power forward...

I do agree with you that this band could have been so much bigger. The talent was there. I'm just glad they are still around. I don't think being on Scotti Brothers helped.

The talent is STILL there. They're playing unbelievably on the available boots and Reach.
As for mccauley, I'm taking a leap of faith with sullivan. i like what i hear on a lot of the boots, enjoyed eye on tv, but other survivor things i listen to with him just sound too heavy, not melodic enough something dave and jimi had in their sleep.


As for laying off Frankie, not a chance, until the album they;ve been suposedly recording since mccauley came on last year, is OUT.

The Mcauley/Jimi/Dave-Corabi/Vince comparison is very apt.

[Slander]

As for laying off Frankie, not a chance, until the album they;ve been suposedly recording since mccauley came on last year, is OUT.
The Mcauley/Jimi/Dave-Corabi/Vince comparison is very apt.

I understand about the past. But what does that have to do with now. They are playing more shows. They were on national tv. They are working on the album. Why keep complaining? I just don't understand the point. I'm going to see them this August. I will give you my assessment then. They are actually playing 2 shows near me. I'm going to check out both.

[MarcelJordan]

In addition, I'm sorry if the fact that Frankie is a bold faced, two bit, hipocrital liar is too much of a fact for you to handle...

Yes, i can move on, but not when you constantly make shite (as you say) up to glorify him....I know i do...and i think i speak for a lot of people when I say we get tired of it...

I'm a fan of the band just as much as you are, but I'm not going to completely lie about the way I feel to make Frankie Sullivan look good...why would I? I used to be just like you, before I found out the real truth, so it's hard to hold it against you. You just don't know any better I guess.

I think we best focus on the BAND, than go the Frankie is this, JJ is that, the past was this and so on. Complaining isn't getting us anywhere. Geez, they've got a Europe tour to focus on in the very near future and what not.

Let the band breathe and lets all take a deep breath!

[7 Wishes]

European "tour" with no confirmed dates. Oooh, Slander...let's see...12 dates so far, none in Europe. Holy shit, what a hard-working f***ing band. What commitment. What endurance. How do they have the strength to wake up every morning to a job as hard as theirs and go to work every day...

[IngoK]

Even if the European Tour is not confirmed by the Band right now I really would appreciate if it happens (still have in mind that there was a plan in 2006 for a European Tour).

Till now there have been only dates which were already one time changed.

[Eyeof]

Red, did you ever hear some of the Corabi boots? Now that I think about it, it's more apt than I even thought at first....the motley album with Corabi is a lot different than with Neil, but it sure as hell rocks...same could happen with Survivor...

I actually liked Corabi...I mean as a crue head, vince had to come back...but that sure ran its course...I wouldn't mind seeing a Corabi/Motley Show...

[Red13JoePa]

Yep, I've got 2 Corabi boots which I'll happily send your way once my burner's up....

I LOVED him in the Crue and his sound was totally different than Vince much like we have now in Survivor.

And For the record, Vince Neil is my Jimmy Jamison of Metal, which is to say, my #1 favorite vocalist.

The '94 Corabi MC album is mighty good.

[Slander]

European "tour" with no confirmed dates. Oooh, Slander...let's see...12 dates so far, none in Europe. Holy shit, what a hard-working f***ing band. What commitment. What endurance. How do they have the strength to wake up every morning to a job as hard as theirs and go to work every day...

7 they are playing more dates. That's the argument. The fact is true. Your sarcasm doesn't change that.

[Slander]

European "tour" with no confirmed dates. Oooh, Slander...let's see...12 dates so far, none in Europe. Holy shit, what a hard-working f***ing band. What commitment. What endurance. How do they have the strength to wake up every morning to a job as hard as theirs and go to work every day...

7 they are playing more dates. That's the argument. The fact is true. Your sarcasm doesn't change that.

[Slander]

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I think we best focus on the BAND, than go the Frankie is this, JJ is that, the past was this and so on. Complaining isn't getting us anywhere. Geez, they've got a Europe tour to focus on in the very near future and what not.
Let the band breathe and lets all take a deep breath! [/quote]

Thank you for expressing my sentiments. I've been imploring fans to do this ever since I started posting last year. I remember everyone doubting DWTS. Guess What? It happened.

[Eyeof]

Red...speaking of lead singer changes and bands fighting...did you ever read this?

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f77/sammy-hagar-book-excerpts-chapters-19-20-a-22489.html

[AR]

Robin is a great singer - check out his work with MSG. However I feel he is best suited to melodic metal. I just don't feel he is a good fit in Survivor.