Might Wanna Rethink That MSG In The Setlist Thing:

[Slander]

MJ, I'm getting psyched for the new record, but the reviews about McAuley have hardly been scintillating. If they come near me, I will see them and make up my own mind...and I will get the new album, when it comes out later this year (this is 2015, right?). But the reviews have NOT been particularly positive, as a rule.

7 I urge you to see them if you get a chance. Yes Robin's vocals take time to get used to on the Survivor standards but he is a good showman and I think it's an edgier Survivor.

[7 Wishes]

I'm there, dude. Gonna give the dude a chance live and on a record. Fingers crossed.

[MarcelJordan]

I'm there, dude. Gonna give the dude a chance live and on a record. Fingers crossed.

That's a great attitude to have and I wish you good luck! I think you might be fairly pleased.

[Slander]

I'm there, dude. Gonna give the dude a chance live and on a record. Fingers crossed.

That's a great attitude to have and I wish you good luck! I think you might be fairly pleased.

I've been listening to a few cuts of Robin's Business As Usual. Wow. I can't wait for a new record. He and Frankie made quite a team on his solo album.

[Red13JoePa]

Wow. I can't wait for a new record.

Me neither!!!

And in accordance with this anticipation, EyeOf and myself are becoming Vegans, taking youth supplements and completely changing our lifestyles so that we can assure we're alive at age 83 when the new McAlbum drops.

[Slander]

Wow. I can't wait for a new record.

Me neither!!!

And in accordance with this anticipation, EyeOf and myself are becoming Vegans, taking youth supplements and completely changing our lifestyles so that we can assure we're alive at age 83 when the new McAlbum drops.

Hey Red I just posted Saturday's photos if you are interested.

[Little Lenny]

Still dunno who Schenker is either but I'm not willing to McKick McCauley out yet. I just want to hear him sing ONLY Survivor songs live and above all I want a new Survivor album with him, released in the US.

Interesting thread, it's good to get a take on various views. Survivor don't seem to be as big here in the Uk as they are in the States. However Just to point out Michael and his brother Rudie are excellent guitar players who have had very long careers, Michael with MSG, as well as UFO and Rudie with the Scorpions.

Michael does have a problem, but even Joe Public can suffer problems with drink and drugs They are very very popular in Europe, however Michael has become a little tarnished by his problems, but this does not detract form the fact that he was one kick ass player and could be if he could just get the help he needs.

The survivor stuff that I have heard I've liked a lot, and of course I think the most famous one over here is Eye of the Tiger! .

[Eyeof]

Hi lenny....

I'll get bashed for saying this, but Survivor is not a big in the states as we make it seem on this board....LOL

[Red13JoePa]

[Little Lenny]

Hi lenny....

I'll get bashed for saying this, but Survivor is not a big in the states as we make it seem on this board....LOL

thats ok my partner Shaggy sort of enlightened me too.... ah well you live n' learn as they say. Thank you anyway

[Eyeof]

Sorry Red...I've been out of pocket....having all of the blood in my body completely changed out with that of an 18 year old, in hopes of making it to see the new Survivor record...

[7 Wishes]

One thing's for sure...on the new record, "High On You, Too" is going to feature the greatest solo ever by a 103-year-old guitarist, when it gets released in 2056.

[MarcelJordan]

One thing's for sure...on the new record, "High On You, Too" is going to feature the greatest solo ever by a 103-year-old guitarist, when it gets released in 2056.

Aw shucks. That means I'll be 91

[Matthew]

Schencker can't hold Sullivan's or Schon's jock strap.

Sullivan isn't remotely in Schenker's league as a guitarist. Schon maybe - but Sullivan? I really don't know where you get that idea from....

[Red13JoePa]

Dude, you don't think Frankie's that good, Matto?

I actually have him RIGHT up there w/ Schon and Edward Van Nepotism chops wise.

[Slander]

Dude, you think Frankie's that good, Matto?

I actually have him RIGHT up there w/ Schon and Edward Van Nepotism chops wise.

Frankie can flat out shred. His peers know that! If Survivr had ever been an Headliner he would rank right up there. Please also keep in mind I was the guy who started this thread. I think Schenker is terrific too.

[Matthew]

Dude, you think Frankie's that good, Matto?

I actually have him RIGHT up there w/ Schon and Edward Van Nepotism chops wise.

Frankie can flat out shred. His peers know that! If Survivr had ever been an Headliner he would rank right up there. Please also keep in mind I was the guy who started this thread. I think Schenker is terrific too.

I'm a big Survivor fan - but I guess I've never heard Sullivan play anything extraordinary on the actual albums. Certainly not compared to Schenker on albums such as "Obsession" by UFO. Also - I'm not sure how much of his own style he has for all his technical ability. I wouldn't hear him play and immediately think, 'Oh, that's Sullivan'.

Maybe it's different live though?

I'll go back and listen to his stuff again though. I'd always thought Jimi Jamison's voice and Ron Nevison's production made this group a bit special - not the guitars so much.

[Slander]

Dude, you think Frankie's that good, Matto?

I actually have him RIGHT up there w/ Schon and Edward Van Nepotism chops wise.

Frankie can flat out shred. His peers know that! If Survivr had ever been an Headliner he would rank right up there. Please also keep in mind I was the guy who started this thread. I think Schenker is terrific too.

I'm a big Survivor fan - but I guess I've never heard Sullivan play anything extraordinary on the actual albums. Certainly not compared to Schenker on albums such as "Obsession" by UFO. Also - I'm not sure how much of his own style he has for all his technical ability. I wouldn't hear him play and immediately think, 'Oh, that's Sullivan'.

Maybe it's different live though?

Interesting Matthew. I think without Sullivan there is no Survivor. He brings the sounds. I can definitely hear it. When I listen to records he has been a part of i can tell it's Sullivan.

[Matthew]

Dude, you think Frankie's that good, Matto?

I actually have him RIGHT up there w/ Schon and Edward Van Nepotism chops wise.

Frankie can flat out shred. His peers know that! If Survivr had ever been an Headliner he would rank right up there. Please also keep in mind I was the guy who started this thread. I think Schenker is terrific too.

I'm a big Survivor fan - but I guess I've never heard Sullivan play anything extraordinary on the actual albums. Certainly not compared to Schenker on albums such as "Obsession" by UFO. Also - I'm not sure how much of his own style he has for all his technical ability. I wouldn't hear him play and immediately think, 'Oh, that's Sullivan'.

Maybe it's different live though?

Interesting Matthew. I think without Sullivan there is no Survivor. He brings the sounds. I can definitely hear it. When I listen to records he has been a part of i can tell it's Sullivan.

I could maybe tell by the riffs perhaps. Less so by the solos.

But I feel the same way about Lukather too. Clearly a good guitarist and rated by his peers - but on Toto records he rarely does anything that really stays with me or blows me away.

[Red13JoePa]

I'd always thought Jimi Jamison's voice and Ron Nevison's production made this group a bit special - not the guitars so much.

Agree on the Nevison point.
To me Survivor:Nevison::Journey:Elson.

May not have the Mutt Lange name, but those 4 entities just GEL together productionwise.


Re: the overlooking of Frankie: It's simple. You're a vocals first kinda guy (easy in the case of Jamison, he's my #1 AOR vocalist apoligies to perry Gramm, delp, deyoung) I'm a guitar first kinda guy.

Nothing wrong w/ either.

[Matthew]

Re: the overlooking of Frankie: It's simple. You're a vocals first kinda guy (easy in the case of Jamison, he's my #1 AOR vocalist apoligies to perry Gramm, delp, deyoung) I'm a guitar first kinda guy.

Nothing wrong w/ either.

Not true, Red - although I can understand why you'd think that given my posting history in the Journey forum. It all depends on the band re: which is the most striking instrument. With UFO it's the lead guitar. With Rush it's the drums. ELP the keyboards. And some bands like Journey it's combination of vocals and guitar equally.

In the case of Survivor...I think Sullivan is a top professional...but he doesn't quite belong among the greats. Whereas Jamison most certainly does.

[Slander]

Re: the overlooking of Frankie: It's simple. You're a vocals first kinda guy (easy in the case of Jamison, he's my #1 AOR vocalist apoligies to perry Gramm, delp, deyoung) I'm a guitar first kinda guy.

Nothing wrong w/ either.

Not true, Red - although I can understand why you'd think that given my posting history in the Journey forum. It all depends on the band re: which is the most striking instrument. With UFO it's the lead guitar. With Rush it's the drums. ELP the keyboards. And some bands like Journey it's combination of vocals and guitar equally.

In the case of Survivor...I think Sullivan is a top professional...but he doesn't quite belong among the greats. Whereas Jamison most certainly does.

Okay with all due respect I call bs. Survivor has succeeded with two different vocalists. Jamo may be great but Survivor did just fine without him. The one constant is Sullivan. By the way it's not just the guitar! It's the song writing. It's the rhythm. It's the harmony. I still don't think people have a solid grasp of what this guy means to the band.